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Posted: 4/9/2012 6:52:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PapaGeno21:
I've messed around a bit with my .45 feeder die, and gotten it to feed 230gr LRNs pretty well. The cases need even more bell to get the bullets to feed, and between lube and slightly larger diameter, the whole thing needs a bit of weight on top of the bullet stack to keep it flowing. So far I haven't experimented with my 9mm feeder die because I haven't found appropriate-sized tubing.
Does anyone here know if the 9mm version works with bullets that are plated but sized at .356? Also does the 45acp work with .452 sized bullets? Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 7:42:48 AM EDT
[#2]
Originally Posted By wheelchairman:
Anybody gotten this to work with 223? Hornady tells me that they plan to have rifle dies available 'late summer', but I think they've been "coming soon" for well over a year now. 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2012 1:57:51 PM EDT
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2012 5:46:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By Dogue:
Originally Posted By wheelchairman:
Anybody gotten this to work with 223? Hornady tells me that they plan to have rifle dies available 'late summer', but I think they've been "coming soon" for well over a year now.
has anyone tried the die portion of one of these for rifle bullets mr bullet |
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Posted: 4/12/2012 12:23:47 PM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By KD185:
Originally Posted By Dogue:
Originally Posted By wheelchairman:
Anybody gotten this to work with 223? Hornady tells me that they plan to have rifle dies available 'late summer', but I think they've been "coming soon" for well over a year now.
has anyone tried the die portion of one of these for rifle bullets mr bullet Not sure, but they do take Diners Club 
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Posted: 4/15/2012 8:46:29 PM EDT
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Can anyone who has this running on a XL650 comment on what stations they have on what/
I've never reloaded pistol ammo due to the relatively low cost, but I have my 650 decked out with all the options for rifle, and would like to get a setup like this going for 9mm. |
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RI, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2012 8:50:14 PM EDT
[#7]
I am using the Hornady LNL, but just like the 650 I have 5 stations.
Here is how it works for me using the 28 dollar feeder die, and my own DIY brass feeder. 1. Size/Deprime 2. Powder Through Expander 3. Bullet Feeder 4. Bullet Seating Die 5. Taper Crimp Die SO every time I pull the handle a loaded round comes out. I dont touch anything except the handle. Needless to say, things get done very fast! |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 9:07:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By PapaGeno21:
I am using the Hornady LNL, but just like the 650 I have 5 stations. Here is how it works for me using the 28 dollar feeder die, and my own DIY brass feeder. 1. Size/Deprime 2. Powder Through Expander 3. Bullet Feeder 4. Bullet Seating Die 5. Taper Crimp Die SO every time I pull the handle a loaded round comes out. I dont touch anything except the handle. Needless to say, things get done very fast! Same as I do when I have a seperate crimping die. If I do not have a seperate crimping die I can throw in a powder cop die if I wish, although I go slow enough to visually check the powder in the pistol cases. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2012 7:30:32 PM EDT
[#9]
This is using the rotating Lee Case feeder parts. It's not as stable as I'd like with the offset columns of bullets though, so I might just end up going with the single tube method. |
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Posted: 4/18/2012 2:06:40 AM EDT
[#10]
so does anyone make a bullet feeding die for rifle calibers? say 5.56?
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2012 12:22:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Ugh, I finally got off my butt and ordered plastic tubes for all my calibers...only to find out the bullet feeder dies are out of stock everywhere.  I'm looking forward to trying this out on my RCBS Pro 2000.
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Posted: 4/18/2012 1:36:45 PM EDT
[#12]
Originally Posted By sardo_67:
so does anyone make a bullet feeding die for rifle calibers? say 5.56? I thought I read recently that Hornady or someone is coming out with rifle feeder dies soon. Or was I dreaming? |
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Posted: 4/18/2012 5:43:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sardo_67]
[#13]
Originally Posted By 7:
Originally Posted By sardo_67:
so does anyone make a bullet feeding die for rifle calibers? say 5.56? I thought I read recently that Hornady or someone is coming out with rifle feeder dies soon. Or was I dreaming? ya i read that in a post here from another member but it sounds like it's been "out this summer" for a few summers now. or something similar to that. i saw one on youtube where a guy made his own, feeder die and everything.... gets me thinking 
the video of his set up 
is this guy a member here? he has A LOT of cool home made stuff, look at the other videos he has. home made primer tube loader as well .. not exactly the "home made" bullet feeder i was thinking of but made me laugh.....
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Posted: 4/18/2012 8:50:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By 7:
Originally Posted By sardo_67:
so does anyone make a bullet feeding die for rifle calibers? say 5.56? I thought I read recently that Hornady or someone is coming out with rifle feeder dies soon. Or was I dreaming? Not dreaming...it's several posts above yours. 
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MA, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2012 2:15:29 PM EDT
[#15]
Awesome thread!
Can someone make a list of the tube sizes and part numbers (Linen and Things PN) for 9mm, .357, .40, .44,.45 etc.? Some thing like this but listing all of the most popular calibers. 9mm 7/16 in. x 36 in. Model: 16020 Just to make things easy for the challenged, like myself. 
I love this place. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2012 7:00:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GWhis]
[#16]
.45 ACP Hornady Feed Die: 5/8" tube for a single sleeve. (cut 2" long piece and use a dremel to make a single 1/2" long slit up one side at the bottom)
slit allows 5/8" sleeve to press fit into the die. Then full length 9/16" bullet tubes drop in. .40 S&W Hornady Feed Die: 1/2" bullets tubes slide right in....no sleeve necessary. .38/.357 Hornady Feed Die: 7/16" tubes slide in but not tight enough. I wrapped a few turns of black electrical tape around bottom ends. Works extremely well. Stays put well. I have no other Feed Dies. No need for part numbers.....you order by size. I bought 7/16", 1/2", 9/16, and 5/8" You will need just one 5/8" tube for the sleeve. The other 3 sizes, get as many as you wish to fill with bullets. Hope that helps. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2012 2:45:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GWhis]
[#17]
You will eventually want to save up for a RCBS, Mr. Bullet Feeder, or a Hornady Bullet Collator like I have some day and you'll have even more fun. Or you can make your own for really cheap. I don't think it would be that hard. How do you make a good one? Check out post 9 and posts 20-22HERE! (Really this time).
 That's jmorris's really impressive one, made with a short piece of 6" PVC, some 1/2" UHMW, a long arm micro-switch, and a motor.
Picture below shows two he made, and shows the hole drilling jig he made, (front and below) with a bullet wheel mounted. Pretty dang cool! Jmorris is one of THR.com reloading forum regulars. 
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IL, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2012 5:14:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Wrong Link G- That's going to that one photo of the 40 turned into 45.
I'm up for trying to make my own bullet feeder! |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2012 5:46:29 PM EDT
[#19]
OOPS! Thanks for the head's up....fixed it.
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Posted: 6/5/2012 7:58:43 AM EDT
[#20]
I want to find a reliable "rifle" bullet feeder mechanism. I do not like the KISS because it indexs off of the shoulder of the cartridge. Unlike Mr. Thones device which activates off of the 650.
I need it too work on a 1050. I have RCBS shipping their die body now and I'm gonna try and rig something up. The coalato par it simple. I used a M-A sytems coalator. this is the big one like a camdex uses. If anyone has suggestions let me know! |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:28:07 PM EDT
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thanks for the thread,
i got the 9,40 and 45 dies. set up tonight and did 45 acp, 45 colt will be tomorrow 
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:29:54 AM EDT
[#22]
How many bullets fit in your tube?
Looks fast and cheap. A good thing.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:35:55 AM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
How many bullets fit in your tube? Looks fast and cheap. A good thing. full the tube will hold 50 45's but it is a bit too much weight for the die and it likes to dump a few so i only put 40 in each tube then it works fine. just switched over and loaded a 100 rounds of 45 colt. reset up the feeder die and it works like clock work. speeds up loading quite a bit. i don't crank them out but i can go at a decent pace and run 250 in a half hour now. so about 500 an hour and that isn't pushing it. that is if i have all the primer tubes filled and bullet tubes. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 7:46:48 AM EDT
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That is pretty cool. i think i am going to have to figure something out for the bullets but for now the tubes work great. if i didn't already have a case feeder i would be copying your idea for sure. and yes it sounds so cheap so people think it can't work. but it does. i had 26 bucks in 9 tubes for all my calibers. maybe a little less my mind isn't what it used to be and 30 for each die which you need even if you buy the feeder. and omg does it make things simpler you almost feel like your forgetting something because it smooths out the process. Originally Posted By GWhis:
Looks good BIGGDAWG! The only ones who don't think it's a worthwhile project are those who already have a collator or those who haven't tried it. besides speeding things up, it simplifies the process.....no more pinching fingers between the die and the case. The act of picking up a bullet and placing it on the case, and holding it while you raise up the shell plate until the bullet goes in, is a pain in the ass, IMO. I'd rather place cases by hand any day than bullets..........feeding both without hands, of course, is even better......then you can focus on what's important: Powder charges. 
BTW, I don't have the luxury of being able to buy a case feeder like you do, so I made my own. What's funny is.....I have a Hornady Bullet feeder/collator, to feed bullets, but I use tubes, $28 bullet feeder style, to drop CASES to my homemade case feeder. And no, I don't load the tubes by hand. I use a shaker collator, similar to Lee's except that it's modified to fill both pistol and rifle tubes, from 9mm to .308. Tube fill speed depends on caliber. Worst case (9mm)1 minute...best case (.308) 30 seconds. I would like to figure out such a thing for bullets to speed up filling tubes for bullets. Then my RCBS Pro 2000 won't need any electricity at all to feed bullets and cases. That could be important one of these days.
Anyway, I can buy a Dillon collator for for my case feeder, or I can make a simple one for less than $50, but The Lee style shaker works really well , discouraging me from going to the trouble or expense. We'll see....the project would be fun though. Here's a picture of my H.M. case feeder and a mounted tube, plus I fixed a bracket to mount 3 more tubes. I may be wrong, but I don't think compared with this setup a real electric collator would load tubes that much faster. You can see the bullet drop tube from the Hornady Bullet Feeder in the picture also. http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad195/gstrad/Case%20Feeder%20Collator/IMG_1290.jpg I was thinking about sharing my little shaker project with a how-to thread, but I'm not sure it would be received as worth while to many. So I sorta chickened out. But for the $28 bullet feeder folks, here's a little video showing the shaker with rifle adapter loading tubes full of .223. You will notice me picking one case out during the dump into the shaker. The weakness of this system is you have to be vigilant so that you don't dump one in upside-down. That means you have to dump them in carefully from the side and not directly over the shaker holes. Once the cases are laying on their sides in the hopper, they will always go in right. (click the picture) <a href="http://s935.photobucket.com/albums/ad195/gstrad/Case%20Feeder%20Collator/Case%20Collator%20Videos/?action=view¤t=MVI_127422335s.mp4" target="_blank">http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad195/gstrad/Case%20Feeder%20Collator/Case%20Collator%20Videos/th_MVI_127422335s.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:21:15 AM EDT
[#26]
Anyone else have issues with the 9mm die not wanting to feed the last handful of bullets? I assume it just needs the weight of the stack to keep pushing down but I just wanted to check to see if it's just my setup or if this is pretty common.
BTW, still waiting on Hornady to come out with the rifle bullet feed dies...
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:36:00 AM EDT
[#27]
Originally Posted By Dogue:
Anyone else have issues with the 9mm die not wanting to feed the last handful of bullets? I assume it just needs the weight of the stack to keep pushing down but I just wanted to check to see if it's just my setup or if this is pretty common. BTW, still waiting on Hornady to come out with the rifle bullet feed dies... my 9mm die will drop all the bullets. it took a bit to get the adjustment right and had to clean it several times. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:11:51 AM EDT
[#28]
GWhis nice adaption off of the old Freeloader
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Posted: 8/21/2012 1:06:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sardo_67]
[#29]
any update on the rifle dies for a set up like this?
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Posted: 9/24/2012 5:03:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2012 1:27:19 AM EDT
[#31]
http://www.reloaders.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_30&products_id=73
that is your cheapest rifle caliber option i think. i just ordered the Hornady feeder die. has anyone tried this type of die on a 1050? the tool head is what moves on that machine so i was thinking maybe some type of soft mount hose. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 2:22:07 AM EDT
[#32]
i finally picked this die up but am having some problems getting it to work, are there any vids that show how the 9mm is set up?
also is the powder die that comes with it 100% required to use to get it to work? |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:56:10 AM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By sardo_67:
i finally picked this die up but am having some problems getting it to work, are there any vids that show how the 9mm is set up? also is the powder die that comes with it 100% required to use to get it to work? You don't have to use the powder through expander die that comes with it if you don't want to. I am sure there is something on youtube for them. It is pretty simple, it just a matter of adjusting the die down enough so that when a case is raised a bullet will seat into it. It takes some adjusting, make sure you've done a thorough job of cleaning the die. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 7:14:19 AM EDT
[#34]
the thing i have found with my dies is you can't have too many bullets in the tube. like for 45 acp you can have a max of 40 bullets and you have to play with the adjustment
so when the tube is full i have to tighten it a little or it drops a bunch of bullets but when it gets down to 20 or so i back it off just a touch |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2012 1:29:38 PM EDT
[#35]
Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
the thing i have found with my dies is you can't have too many bullets in the tube. like for 45 acp you can have a max of 40 bullets and you have to play with the adjustment so when the tube is full i have to tighten it a little or it drops a bunch of bullets but when it gets down to 20 or so i back it off just a touch I can run it just fine down to about 5 or 6 bullets w/o adjusting it. I do have to watch when I start a fresh tube though or it will drop the bottom bullet out the bottom. I fix that by pulling the pin when I have the ram up. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 1:36:44 PM EDT
[#36]
Originally Posted By river_rat:
Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
the thing i have found with my dies is you can't have too many bullets in the tube. like for 45 acp you can have a max of 40 bullets and you have to play with the adjustment so when the tube is full i have to tighten it a little or it drops a bunch of bullets but when it gets down to 20 or so i back it off just a touch I can run it just fine down to about 5 or 6 bullets w/o adjusting it. I do have to watch when I start a fresh tube though or it will drop the bottom bullet out the bottom. I fix that by pulling the pin when I have the ram up. i do the same thing pull the pin with the ram up and just slightly tighen the upper part of the die. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2012 1:45:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
Originally Posted By river_rat:
Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
the thing i have found with my dies is you can't have too many bullets in the tube. like for 45 acp you can have a max of 40 bullets and you have to play with the adjustment so when the tube is full i have to tighten it a little or it drops a bunch of bullets but when it gets down to 20 or so i back it off just a touch I can run it just fine down to about 5 or 6 bullets w/o adjusting it. I do have to watch when I start a fresh tube though or it will drop the bottom bullet out the bottom. I fix that by pulling the pin when I have the ram up. i do the same thing pull the pin with the ram up and just slightly tighen the upper part of the die. I can't remember the count but my tubes are 3' and I think hold 48 or so bullets plus the eight in the die. I have found the sweet spot on my die b/c I don't need to make adjustments to mine. Try setting the die with minor adjustments starting from just too tight to drop a bullet and back the top part off slightly til it drops the bullets and go from there. Mine will occasionally not drop one but it happens very little, maybe 1 a tube at most. |
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Posted: 11/6/2012 1:58:44 PM EDT
[#38]
I'm not a fast reloader but loading 9mm (maybe 52 bullets in tube) they empty out pretty fast.
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Posted: 11/6/2012 2:08:58 PM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By river_rat:
Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
the thing i have found with my dies is you can't have too many bullets in the tube. like for 45 acp you can have a max of 40 bullets and you have to play with the adjustment so when the tube is full i have to tighten it a little or it drops a bunch of bullets but when it gets down to 20 or so i back it off just a touch I can run it just fine down to about 5 or 6 bullets w/o adjusting it. I do have to watch when I start a fresh tube though or it will drop the bottom bullet out the bottom. I fix that by pulling the pin when I have the ram up. finally got mine set lastnight. i loaded 400 rounds and didn't have to adjust it once. also did those 400 in an hour but i had the bullet tubes and primer tubes filled. took breaks every 100 rounds so not bad at all. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:06:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Thanks very much all. This works so well. Just want post some pics.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:41:46 PM EDT
[#41]
Looks great! Ain't it amazing how useful something can be, in spite of the naysayers who say you haven't gained any speed?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:00:25 PM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By GWhis:
Looks great! Ain't it amazing how useful something can be, in spite of the naysayers who say you haven't gained any speed? Yes it is. It works like a champ! Thanks very much for sharing! David |
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Posted: 11/26/2012 8:14:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GWhis]
[#43]
Allow me to fix that statement.
I had a very minor role.
Originally Posted By SC_Dave:
Originally Posted By GWhis:
Looks great! Ain't it amazing how useful something can be, in spite of the naysayers who say you haven't gained any speed? Yes it is. It works like a champ! Thanks very much (Alliedarmory) for sharing! David |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2012 9:32:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SC_Dave]
[#44]
Originally Posted By GWhis:
Allow me to fix that statement. I had a very minor role.
Originally Posted By SC_Dave:
Originally Posted By GWhis:
Looks great! Ain't it amazing how useful something can be, in spite of the naysayers who say you haven't gained any speed? Yes it is. It works like a champ! Thanks very much (Alliedarmory) for sharing! David Ahhh, ok, thanks for straightening that out for me, I'm new. Thanks to everyone who shared this great idea. David
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Posted: 12/1/2012 1:49:13 AM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By sardo_67:
http://www.reloaders.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_30&products_id=73 that is your cheapest rifle caliber option i think. i just ordered the Hornady feeder die. has anyone tried this type of die on a 1050? the tool head is what moves on that machine so i was thinking maybe some type of soft mount hose. Do you think utilizing the 223 mr bullet "die" ,then buying a section of pvc i can make this work as the pistol $28 feeder does on my 650? It would then be gravity feed. Granted it would be a $178 feeder:) |
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Posted: 12/1/2012 1:49:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jim]
[#46]
oops DTap
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SC, USA
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Posted: 12/1/2012 10:40:48 AM EDT
[#47]
anyone running this on a 550? I was just looking for a seating/crimp die for 9mm. Looks like lee has one. Id have to use a combo seating/crimp die to free up a spot for the feeder.
Im looking for some feedback on the seating crimp die - does it work well? |
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Posted: 12/1/2012 6:39:29 PM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By SC_Dave:
Thanks very much all. This works so well. Just want post some pics. http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/SC_Dave/7E774707-69E6-44B2-B8AC-A62C2F684C78-8877-0000147EB647EDA6.jpg http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/SC_Dave/F8C80D24-BC95-4570-BF27-231B05664E22-8877-0000147EDC0B2118.jpg http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/SC_Dave/BE71C9CD-7C7E-49AB-BFE5-E0CDEDA3645C-8877-0000147EC13F0323.jpg http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/SC_Dave/20244183-0B3E-4CC0-BA09-A09674CDC973-8877-0000147ED2BE51D3.jpg http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/SC_Dave/549CD694-4988-4866-B5BC-0CA7F07CB958-8877-0000147EC9FA3BAC.jpg Awesome job on the support piece! Looks factory. |
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Posted: 12/2/2012 1:22:31 AM EDT
[#49]
Can anyone give me a heads up on what die sets seat and crimp in 1 operation? Seems that the dies I got to set up my 650 (Redding pro-series 9mm) do it in two, and I would like to use the power check also if possible.
Thanks! |
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Posted: 12/2/2012 8:58:45 AM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By noveske_nut:
Can anyone give me a heads up on what die sets seat and crimp in 1 operation? Seems that the dies I got to set up my 650 (Redding pro-series 9mm) do it in two, and I would like to use the power check also if possible. Thanks! I know most Lee pistol dies can crimp and seat. |
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