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Posted: 12/16/2013 2:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
That's a little unfair to Beretta considering how they've been releasing lots of new pistol models over the past few years, not to mention some great field shotguns and even a 3-gun shotgun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By eodcolret:
BREAKING NEWS-----Beretta had just announced that they will release the ARX-100 release plan at the 2014 SHOT Show. Beretta Reps who requested to remain anonymous stated that the plan will announce Beretta will release the ARX to the civilian market at the SHOT 2020 show (that is unless plans change between now and the 2014 Show).  Stand by for no further updates quoted the Beretta Spokesperson. However they were willing to say that Beretta will announce their new trademark which will be "We are Beretta and we hate you unless you are a $20,000 shotgun buyer." HK has now announced a law suit against Beretta for trademark infringement.  That's a little unfair to Beretta considering how they've been releasing lots of new pistol models over the past few years, not to mention some great field shotguns and even a 3-gun shotgun. Naa, don't thinking being unfair to Beretta just using satire since Beretta was the one saying back in May that the ARX was in the warehouses and ready to ship. In addition Beretta reps have stated in one coming out anyday now for the past 6 months. Of course this may just be part of their marketing strategy since I have picked up a PX4 SD and a ARX-160 .22 in the past month while still waiting for the ARX-100 that I have on order since May (when they first released the MSRP and let dealers start submitting orders) to show up. |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 11:53:36 PM EDT
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Is anyone really that surprised by the delay? I can't think of a single rifle introduced in the last 10 years that has not been delayed. The XCR, ACR, Tavor, amongst others have all had delays from when they were first expected. Its frustrating, but its also on par with the course.
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Posted: 12/27/2013 8:42:51 AM EDT
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I guess it is a fairly safe assumption that we will hear or see nothing new from Beretta on this rifle until Shot Show?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2013 11:15:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twistedcomrade:
I guess it is a fairly safe assumption that we will hear or see nothing new from Beretta on this rifle until Shot Show? It's looking that way. 
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Posted: 12/27/2013 3:13:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus:
Is anyone really that surprised by the delay? I can't think of a single rifle introduced in the last 10 years that has not been delayed. The XCR, ACR, Tavor, amongst others have all had delays from when they were first expected. Its frustrating, but its also on par with the course. I dont get why its frustrating. The rifle will be available when its available. There has been no official release of a date from the manf. They haven't taken a cent from dealers or customers. At the end of the day its going to be a toy for the majority of its users. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 11:00:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts:
I dont get why its frustrating. The rifle will be available when its available. There has been no official release of a date from the manf. They haven't taken a cent from dealers or customers. At the end of the day its going to be a toy for the majority of its users. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts:
Originally Posted By Thrasymachus:
Is anyone really that surprised by the delay? I can't think of a single rifle introduced in the last 10 years that has not been delayed. The XCR, ACR, Tavor, amongst others have all had delays from when they were first expected. Its frustrating, but its also on par with the course. I dont get why its frustrating. The rifle will be available when its available. There has been no official release of a date from the manf. They haven't taken a cent from dealers or customers. At the end of the day its going to be a toy for the majority of its users. Disagree with the comment of "no official release date from the manf." Beretta Reps have stated in numerous gun publications, NRA Show, Social Media, emails, etc of various release dates (June: in the warehouse now, Release in Sep 2013, Release in 4th QTR, etc etc). That is the reason of the frustration. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 1:36:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BobRoberts]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodcolret:
Disagree with the comment of "no official release date from the manf." Beretta Reps have stated in numerous gun publications, NRA Show, Social Media, emails, etc of various release dates (June: in the warehouse now, Release in Sep 2013, Release in 4th QTR, etc etc). That is the reason of the frustration. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodcolret:
Originally Posted By BobRoberts:
Originally Posted By Thrasymachus:
Is anyone really that surprised by the delay? I can't think of a single rifle introduced in the last 10 years that has not been delayed. The XCR, ACR, Tavor, amongst others have all had delays from when they were first expected. Its frustrating, but its also on par with the course. I dont get why its frustrating. The rifle will be available when its available. There has been no official release of a date from the manf. They haven't taken a cent from dealers or customers. At the end of the day its going to be a toy for the majority of its users. Disagree with the comment of "no official release date from the manf." Beretta Reps have stated in numerous gun publications, NRA Show, Social Media, emails, etc of various release dates (June: in the warehouse now, Release in Sep 2013, Release in 4th QTR, etc etc). That is the reason of the frustration. Please show me a primary source citation besides the initial video 2 ish years ago. A sales rep saying "We hope to get them out by XX date" Does not mean that is the date and at the end of the day it really doesnt matter. The guns will get here when they get here. The same shit happens with every gun release, (well except with Ruger, they dont announce anything till its already at the distributors), The tavor was first hinted at in 2010, look when we actually got it, |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 7:10:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
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Probably get an update from SHOT '14. If anything, perhaps they have pushed back the release in order to implement updates, revisions, or refine designs &/or processes. Hurried products tend to have more bugs, so I say release it when its ready.
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Posted: 12/29/2013 3:07:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eodcolret]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts:
Please show me a primary source citation besides the initial video 2 ish years ago. A sales rep saying "We hope to get them out by XX date" Does not mean that is the date and at the end of the day it really doesnt matter. The guns will get here when they get here. The same shit happens with every gun release, (well except with Ruger, they dont announce anything till its already at the distributors), The tavor was first hinted at in 2010, look when we actually got it, Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts:
Originally Posted By eodcolret:
Originally Posted By BobRoberts:
Originally Posted By Thrasymachus:
Is anyone really that surprised by the delay? I can't think of a single rifle introduced in the last 10 years that has not been delayed. The XCR, ACR, Tavor, amongst others have all had delays from when they were first expected. Its frustrating, but its also on par with the course. I dont get why its frustrating. The rifle will be available when its available. There has been no official release of a date from the manf. They haven't taken a cent from dealers or customers. At the end of the day its going to be a toy for the majority of its users. Disagree with the comment of "no official release date from the manf." Beretta Reps have stated in numerous gun publications, NRA Show, Social Media, emails, etc of various release dates (June: in the warehouse now, Release in Sep 2013, Release in 4th QTR, etc etc). That is the reason of the frustration. Please show me a primary source citation besides the initial video 2 ish years ago. A sales rep saying "We hope to get them out by XX date" Does not mean that is the date and at the end of the day it really doesnt matter. The guns will get here when they get here. The same shit happens with every gun release, (well except with Ruger, they dont announce anything till its already at the distributors), The tavor was first hinted at in 2010, look when we actually got it, Here is the direct quote from the May 2013 Beretta Press Release that is on their website: "Find the new ARX100 at your local Beretta dealer or in your favorite big name sporting goods store later this summer." Also the June 2013 Guns & Ammo Article on the ARX-100, page 53 which stated that "Beretta waited till guns were in the warehouse to make the announcement at the NRA Show". In addition have had at least 3 different email/facebook exchanges with Beretta on their Official Facebook page where they mentioned the reasons for the delay being based on "BATFE complianace/Acceptance testing" in Mar 2013, Jul 2013 & Oct 2013. Granted those were only from Beretta Social Media team but since it was Beretta's FB page which is their "public face", I tend to figure they are speaking for Beretta. |
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Posted: 12/30/2013 2:38:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Waiting patiently here...............my bonus is either going to buy one of these or a Tavor
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Posted: 12/30/2013 10:31:24 PM EDT
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I keep holding off, waiting to putt his in my hands before committing to an ARX or Tavor, but unless Beretta has good news at the Shot Show, IWI will win by default.
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Posted: 12/31/2013 9:35:36 AM EDT
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I kinda feel the same
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
I keep holding off, waiting to putt his in my hands before committing to an ARX or Tavor, but unless Beretta has good news at the Shot Show, IWI will win by default. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2014 5:42:08 PM EDT
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I like the idea of a quick change barrel but every time someone comes up with a gun that has one it's really expensive to buy extra barrels in other calibers.
The AR 15 might not have a quick change barrel but you can buy a spare barreled upper w/o bolt or charging handle and just switch uppers quickly for the same or sometimes less than some of these ne quick change barreled rifles. Just saying. |
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Posted: 1/7/2014 6:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Waiting patiently here...............my bonus is either going to buy one of these or a Tavor I already have the Tavor and love it, FWIW, so my next "big" gun purchase will be the ARX-100, the 9mm Tavor, or the 9mm AUG. The first one to shut up and take my money will be it, so it's looking like it may actually be the 9mm AUG. The ARX is at the very top of my very short "short list," but the world won't end if it isn't the very next one crossed off the list. |
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Posted: 1/7/2014 6:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By american7476: I like the idea of a quick change barrel but every time someone comes up with a gun that has one it's really expensive to buy extra barrels in other calibers. The AR 15 might not have a quick change barrel but you can buy a spare barreled upper w/o bolt or charging handle and just switch uppers quickly for the same or sometimes less than some of these ne quick change barreled rifles. Just saying. Yep. As enticing as each "new sexy beast" is, it is honestly hard to beat the value and versatility of the good ol' AR. If I didn't already have a mess of ARs lying around, I probably wouldn't give the ARX (or many others) a second glance if I'm being honest.
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Posted: 1/7/2014 10:11:44 PM EDT
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I think that's true for a lot of us. Rifles like the Tavor, ARX, ACR, XCR, etc. aren't for people purchasing their first EBR. They're for guys who have been around the AR/AK block, have disposable income, and want to try something new and nifty. That's why I always bristle at the "it doesn't do anything better than my $700 AR, so why buy it?" comments. If your only need is for a rifle that puts lead downrange, then that $700 AR isn't any better than a $150 Hi-Point carbine. We are willing to pay a premium for little niceties like true ambidexterity, better ergonomics, etc., but there's also a big component of "because it's cool and I want it."
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Posted: 1/7/2014 10:29:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror: ... but there's also a big component of "because it's cool and I want it." Absolutely. |
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Posted: 1/9/2014 2:24:03 PM EDT
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Need...ARX...
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Posted: 1/9/2014 2:25:55 PM EDT
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The ARX honestly feels better in my hands than any other EBR I've ever held.
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Posted: 1/9/2014 2:56:38 PM EDT
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I am expecting the same thing as last years Shot Show, they will say "they will be shipping in a few months!".
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Posted: 1/9/2014 3:06:23 PM EDT
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Yeah, I cant quite make up my mind, but the Tavor and ARX-100 are the two I will choose from...........
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
I already have the Tavor and love it, FWIW, so my next "big" gun purchase will be the ARX-100, the 9mm Tavor, or the 9mm AUG. The first one to shut up and take my money will be it, so it's looking like it may actually be the 9mm AUG. The ARX is at the very top of my very short "short list," but the world won't end if it isn't the very next one crossed off the list.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
Waiting patiently here...............my bonus is either going to buy one of these or a Tavor I already have the Tavor and love it, FWIW, so my next "big" gun purchase will be the ARX-100, the 9mm Tavor, or the 9mm AUG. The first one to shut up and take my money will be it, so it's looking like it may actually be the 9mm AUG. The ARX is at the very top of my very short "short list," but the world won't end if it isn't the very next one crossed off the list.
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Posted: 1/9/2014 3:11:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Hasn't Beretta been saying they'll produce this for years now? Any word on price? I'm guessing it will be similarly priced to the ACR and XCR
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Posted: 1/9/2014 4:16:17 PM EDT
[#23]
Should be somewhat cheaper than the ACR, but definitely still more than any DI AR.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2014 7:08:21 PM EDT
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MSRP is $1,950.00
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2014 12:04:42 PM EDT
[#25]
New video. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9uOkc7qZI0
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Posted: 1/14/2014 3:09:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Word at SHOT is April release.
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Posted: 1/14/2014 3:26:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bullet_]
[#27]
Thanks for posting that 556cliff.
Adjustable gas system and chrome lined barrel are the only changes I heard or saw. ETA: April? maxwell smart voice ~ This time, definitely! |
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Posted: 1/14/2014 4:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
Word at SHOT is April release. Of what year? |
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Posted: 1/14/2014 4:35:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcm223:
Of what year? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcm223:
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
Word at SHOT is April release. Of what year? Whatever year it would be the most relevant? A year after that. |
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Posted: 1/14/2014 4:42:05 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
Word at SHOT is April release. I heard something like that last Shot Show 
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Posted: 1/14/2014 4:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
Word at SHOT is April release. I'll believe it when I see it
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2014 8:13:23 PM EDT
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More interesting would be an explanation why they did not make it to the market last year, and why we should believe them that April 2014 is the date.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 10:46:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
Word at SHOT is April release. So Beretta will announce on Apr 1, "April Fools, ARX new release date is ________ (insert date TBD)".
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2014 2:42:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#34]
Here's a link. > http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/4560012343/p/1
Here's another link. > http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/01/14/beretta-arx100-expected-april/ And a couple more videos. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2vggASKKVI > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=869pvORmZBo Here's a link to a picture of the adjustable gas block. > http://blog.predatorbdu.com/2014/01/beretta-arx100-updates-for-shot-show.html |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 10:07:02 PM EDT
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I looked over the ARX100 at SHOT today and was very disappointed in several of the changes that have been made to this rifle vs older military versions.
One pretty glaring issue is the safety which is now essentially impossible to operate with the shooting hand on the grip. The shortened handguard makes no sense especially for a consumer market rifle. They also added some protrusions at the rear of the ejection port, presumably as case deflectors, but it's almost impossible to rack the charging handle without snagging those. The platform had a lot of promise but (in a pattern we've seen before) gets goofed up by the time it gets to market. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 10:39:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
I looked over the ARX100 at SHOT today and was very disappointed in several of the changes that have been made to this rifle vs older military versions. One pretty glaring issue is the safety which is now essentially impossible to operate with the shooting hand on the grip. The shortened handguard makes no sense especially for a consumer market rifle. They also added some protrusions at the rear of the ejection port, presumably as case deflectors, but it's almost impossible to rack the charging handle without snagging those. The platform had a lot of promise but (in a pattern we've seen before) gets goofed up by the time it gets to market. The safety change was made to appeal to US shooters who are more used to flipping an AR-style safety 90 degrees IIRC. As for the shortened handguard, I agree it looks pretty dumb, but if they're really doing 9" barrels as well then that makes up for it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 3:09:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
The safety change was made to appeal to US shooters who are more used to flipping an AR-style safety 90 degrees IIRC. As for the shortened handguard, I agree it looks pretty dumb, but if they're really doing 9" barrels as well then that makes up for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
I looked over the ARX100 at SHOT today and was very disappointed in several of the changes that have been made to this rifle vs older military versions. One pretty glaring issue is the safety which is now essentially impossible to operate with the shooting hand on the grip. The shortened handguard makes no sense especially for a consumer market rifle. They also added some protrusions at the rear of the ejection port, presumably as case deflectors, but it's almost impossible to rack the charging handle without snagging those. The platform had a lot of promise but (in a pattern we've seen before) gets goofed up by the time it gets to market. The safety change was made to appeal to US shooters who are more used to flipping an AR-style safety 90 degrees IIRC. As for the shortened handguard, I agree it looks pretty dumb, but if they're really doing 9" barrels as well then that makes up for it. If NFA is an option, although with the rule revisions ATF is planning, it may be that much harder to go that route unless you have the good fortune of living in a friendly county or city.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 3:49:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
The safety change was made to appeal to US shooters who are more used to flipping an AR-style safety 90 degrees IIRC. As for the shortened handguard, I agree it looks pretty dumb, but if they're really doing 9" barrels as well then that makes up for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
I looked over the ARX100 at SHOT today and was very disappointed in several of the changes that have been made to this rifle vs older military versions. One pretty glaring issue is the safety which is now essentially impossible to operate with the shooting hand on the grip. The shortened handguard makes no sense especially for a consumer market rifle. They also added some protrusions at the rear of the ejection port, presumably as case deflectors, but it's almost impossible to rack the charging handle without snagging those. The platform had a lot of promise but (in a pattern we've seen before) gets goofed up by the time it gets to market. The safety change was made to appeal to US shooters who are more used to flipping an AR-style safety 90 degrees IIRC. As for the shortened handguard, I agree it looks pretty dumb, but if they're really doing 9" barrels as well then that makes up for it. It's not just the change to 90 degrees, the activation force is now very high and the shape of the lever makes it impossible to apply any force to it with your thumb from a shooting grip. If they're doing a pistol version they could have done it separately with a short handguard. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 11:32:25 AM EDT
[#39]
I didn't know Beretta was doing an ACR...
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Posted: 1/16/2014 2:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gifters:
I didn't know Beretta was doing an ACR... I think it's called pulling a Bushmaster... Although I don't think it's quite at that level of fail yet, but give it another 60 to 90 days and it might just be.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:37:29 PM EDT
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New video. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLYqsJucltw
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Posted: 1/16/2014 6:30:04 PM EDT
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Unreal that Beretta cheapened the rifle by going chrome lined instead of nitride as originally announced so I'm gonna pass on the ARX-100.
Once more they could of improved upon the frame of the rifle by adding QD mounts like the Tavor has. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 7:09:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#43]
My main problem with them going to a chrome lined barrel is them trying to make it sound like an improvement over what it was before and not lowering the MSRP.
It seems to me like they are trying to dumb down certain parts of the rifle to make it easier to sell to the dumb masses who don't understand what kind of features a true 21st century rifle should have. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 8:05:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
My main problem with them going to a chrome lined barrel is them trying to make it sound like an improvement over what it was before and not lowering the MSRP. It seems to me like they are trying to dumb down certain parts of the rifle to make it easier to sell to the dumb masses who don't understand what kind of features a true 21st century rifle should have. Hard truth is that right or wrong, the market rules. The market is heavily influenced by ex-military and they tend to buy what they carried. Before WWI, lever action rifles ruled the market in America. Teddy Roosevelt used several big game hunting in Africa. After WWI, the boys came home and bought bolt action rifles. Even shooters in places with heavy woods and brush bought them. Despite the fact that the BA rifle is by far the second best choice for them. As a result, rifle caliber lever guns are, even now, almost dead. Daddy carried a bolt gun, so I got one too now. Daddy's black rifle had a chrome lined, 1/7 twist, M-4 profile barrel, mine will too. |
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Posted: 1/17/2014 12:15:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
Hard truth is that right or wrong, the market rules. The market is heavily influenced by ex-military and they tend to buy what they carried. Before WWI, lever action rifles ruled the market in America. Teddy Roosevelt used several big game hunting in Africa. After WWI, the boys came home and bought bolt action rifles. Even shooters in places with heavy woods and brush bought them. Despite the fact that the BA rifle is by far the second best choice for them. As a result, rifle caliber lever guns are, even now, almost dead. Daddy carried a bolt gun, so I got one too now. Daddy's black rifle had a chrome lined, 1/7 twist, M-4 profile barrel, mine will too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
My main problem with them going to a chrome lined barrel is them trying to make it sound like an improvement over what it was before and not lowering the MSRP. It seems to me like they are trying to dumb down certain parts of the rifle to make it easier to sell to the dumb masses who don't understand what kind of features a true 21st century rifle should have. Hard truth is that right or wrong, the market rules. The market is heavily influenced by ex-military and they tend to buy what they carried. Before WWI, lever action rifles ruled the market in America. Teddy Roosevelt used several big game hunting in Africa. After WWI, the boys came home and bought bolt action rifles. Even shooters in places with heavy woods and brush bought them. Despite the fact that the BA rifle is by far the second best choice for them. As a result, rifle caliber lever guns are, even now, almost dead. Daddy carried a bolt gun, so I got one too now. Daddy's black rifle had a chrome lined, 1/7 twist, M-4 profile barrel, mine will too. Well, if that's the case, then I have to ask why 5.45x39 cal kit is going to be offered for it instead of 7.62x39 kit - or am I a market outsider on this? |
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Posted: 1/17/2014 5:00:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Well, if that's the case, then I have to ask why 5.45x39 cal kit is going to be offered for it instead of 7.62x39 kit - or am I a market outsider on this? Where did you here that the 5.45 kit is coming first? Beretta already has the 7.62x39 rifle made and sold to other nations. In FDE no less! 
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Posted: 1/17/2014 10:55:27 AM EDT
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Had no interest in the gun, thought that it was ugly. That was until I picked it up. This gun is freaking light! I will definitely pick one up this year instead of trying to build a LW AR.
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Posted: 1/17/2014 12:51:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By another48hrs:
Had no interest in the gun, thought that it was ugly. That was until I picked it up. This gun is freaking light! I will definitely pick one up this year instead of trying to build a LW AR. I might pick one up too if they live up to their goal of releasing before Shot Show 2015 
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Posted: 1/17/2014 1:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By another48hrs:
Had no interest in the gun, thought that it was ugly. That was until I picked it up. This gun is freaking light! I will definitely pick one up this year instead of trying to build a LW AR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By another48hrs:
Had no interest in the gun, thought that it was ugly. That was until I picked it up. This gun is freaking light! I will definitely pick one up this year instead of trying to build a LW AR. I think that's a lot of peoples' view on the gun... TTAG had a great line: Despite having the silhouette somewhat reminiscent of a pregnant largemouth bass, the Beretta feels light and fast, and is incredibly well balanced. I wanted one from the start, handling the military/LE version just made me want it more. |
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Posted: 1/17/2014 1:30:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
Daddy's black rifle had a chrome lined, 1/7 twist, M-4 profile barrel, mine will too. If they put an M4 barrel on the ARX I would probably be done with it. The first straw that broke the back of the ACR camel was the 1 in 9 twist M4 profile barrel. 
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