I've seen that picture or a similar one.  That may be the case, or it may just be the easiest solution given the design shortcomings of a tall rail and low-comb stock.  Consider it this way - the rifle has a full-length rail for a reason beyond mounting  BUIS and a red dot, after all the flat-top AR can do that.
I believe that's an ITAL or some such, so you couldn't mount it behind the front sight anyway.  In front of, yes.

DP.

It's a CQBL, not a DBAL.

Steiner Defense CQBL-1

Actually the new Surefire Vampire lights and a TNVC TAPS switch would be an awesome setup with a CQBL on the ARX.

Yep Steiner is a Beretta sister company, Basically all of Steiners Optics, Nv devices and such are made with the AR160 in mind as the two companies work hand in hand.

And the actual Italians with use of a Dbal...and troy sights



And my setup

Anyone have an Aimpoint T1 or T2 mounted with either an American Defense CASV mount, or the Larue Lower 1/3 Co-Witness (LT660HK) mount?
Just curious as to how the cheek weld is with these.
I believe the AD is 1.1" from the top of the rail to the center of the optic, and the Larue is 1.3".

Is that the CR2 riser?  How is it attached and how secure is it?

Its attached with pressure and anti slide tape, its incredibly secure, but easy to remove if you don't like it.

It's actually the CR2 "Leggero". The standard CR2 riser has a different body design, but attaches to the stock with the same method.

Thanks now I need an arx in fde

Its more of a coyote color. All of the accessories on my rifle are in fde for the comparison. And ..Your welcome.

I think it's a bit lighter than the standard Coyote Brown. Very hard to get a perfect match with the kydex currently available. I think the color may be proprietary to Beretta and the ARX line. Of course, pure speculation on my part.

Your rifle does look pretty sweet with the FDE parts.

It actually matches the ACR fde color almost exactly.

Affirmative. I've received the same report from others.

It's almost like I posted pics of the two together a long time ago.

I was going to get the FDE, but they sold out, so I got the black. If I had gotten the FDE, I would have also had to get the FDE for my APX which was another $50, so it saved me money all around.

So...how are they?

The ARX 160 seems to have more of an FDE like tone vs the ARX 100

I think it's just a difference in lighting.

Damn you guys talking about academy. After I saw this thread and that they still had them at $880 I went out and bought another one.

Funny after reading that I also went and did the same at my academy, but mine only had the .22 one.

You can see rough inventory at local stores online

Great. But I've been so swamped I don't really have time to post on Arfcom lately.

I've got the ARX-160 bipod coming in from Italy soon and want to try that out. I'll do a brief review of both simultaneously when it gets here. I really do like the sights though.

I'm also very interested in hearing about the MAS sights.  Would you mind measuring the height of the sight line vs a standard AR backup sight?  I can't find that info anywhere and it would be very useful info to decide on making that purchase.  Also look forward to your impression of the bipod.  I've looked at it too.

New light setup.

Nice! Still like your MRO's?

I do still like them, I have to admit I miss my Eotech. I'm thinking about picking up the newer version of the Eotech to use on my NV gun.

I am back to trying to find an optic for my ARX, my MRO killed itself in the safe. Its currently back at Trijicon trying to figure out why it just decided to up and die.

I have 4 MRO's and they all have been stellar.

I have had horrible luck with Trijicon products, other than thier night sights being flawless I had two scopes that were no good, and now the MRO.

Pretty much the last straw for me, think I'm going to go as authentic to the Italian arm as possible and put a Aimpoint comp on it.

How are you liking those sights?

Good cowitness?

I just bought a set.

FYI, BerettaUSA if running the ARX100 mags on special AND they marked them down from $35 to $28.  Code "SUNNY17" gets you 50% off the lowered price of $28 - so $14 each for high-quality stainless steel AR mags.  AND free shipping!

Anyone got a TA 44 or TA45 ACOG mounted in the lowest possible mount on their ARX 100?
I'm researching both of these as a possibility.
I like the longer eye relief and the triangle retical option of the TA45, but it doesn't mount as low as the TA44.

Both TA44 and TA45 use the same integrated base, use the same mounts, and will be the same height. The 26, which at its heart is just a 44 body in a different mount setup, doesn't use either, and mounts lower. The 44 and 45 are very similar where the 44 trades increased FOV for decreased ER, and the 45 does the inverse.

Get a 44/45 according to preference, in a low mount; or get a 26. Don't overthink this, at the end of the day they'll all work great.

What's the consensus?  Screaming deal, or the new normal?

My guess is screaming deal.  They probably need to raise some capital to cover their move and setup.  The ARX mags are also 50% off.  Once they've liquidated existing stock and gotten up and running, I think prices will go back up.
If Beretta was smart, they'd use the downtime to tweak the ARX to address the easily fixable issues like the trigger and sling attachments.

Damn.  I like screaming deals but I don't know that I need 3 of them.

Maybe not.  However, at the prices they're selling for, you can think of an extra as a spare barrel and a source of spare parts for much, much less than normal.  

You're talking about some major redesigning of the steel frame that holds the sling loops & the poly shell that encases it.  Then there's the precision poly molds, which easily cost 5-6 figures.  The R&D involved is nothing that can be undertaken in 6 months without some serious investment.  The result wouldn't impact sales dramatically enough to make it worth the effort.  The trigger may be a different story, but since Art's aftermarket trigger has that covered, it's probably not worth it other than changing springs rates - if that can make a difference.

ARX-200 possibly becoming available??? > https://www.botach.com/beretta-arx200-assault-rifle/

Sign me up!

Love the price!





ETA, wonder if they will stick with Keymod, or switch the hand guard over to MLok format?

Nice.  First the Tavor 7, now this. Going to be an expensive 2018.

To make the ARX-200 available in the US, they need to re-tool a lot, including the molds.

If they want to bring it in as a rifle, it has to be 922R compliant, limiting foreign made parts.  So this is expensive, and consumes R&D resources.  Right now, R&D is still tied up in getting production equipment relocated to Nashville and algned, qualified for production, etc, so I think R&D is likely limited to stuff that is critical to ongoing production.

I did try to pitch their marketing guy a plan at NRA show to bring some ARX-200 in as pistols, which do not need to be 922R complient, then turning Gear Head Works loose to make an adaptor to put his Tail Hook on it.  That is a sweet arm brace for a pistol, and since the ATF now allows you to shoulder it, will turn a pistol into a sweet little SBR-ish setup, without needing a tax stamp.  Like all show conversations, there was lots of gladhanding and smiles and promises.  No followup, but I want to try calling him a few times to see if I can move something.  I'm not part of the organization, and it always looks easier from the outside, but it seems so easy to me - you pull off the extendable piece on the buttstock, and register the production as a pistol instead of a rifle.  Done, you have instant US sales of an existing product, plus a short .308 would be about the most badass rifle out there.

That, or wait and hope the ATF recognizes sporting use of 'assault rifles', so they can import it under exemption .... but I doubt that will happen soon.

Why couldn't they do what FN does with the scar, and mill out the mag well block when it gets here??

This.  FN already shows the way.

I don't understand what is meant by needing to "retool" the molds for domestic production.  Does this mean setting up the -200 production line?  Yes, that's a given investment cost, for sure.  Making the molds would certainly be an expenditure, considering their high precision nature.  I don't know if the -100 molds were made in Italy or here in the US.  The prohibition against compatibility with specific FA components for US commercial sales is but another given (re)design cost consideration.

So, ARX-160 (A3 military, not the .22LR) accessories: two thumbs up for the LPA sights, one thumb up and one thumb sideways for the bipod.

LPA MAS7/T-MAS7s took some hunting to find since they are apparently not marketed in the US, but Fusion Firearms was able to hook me up. Same for the ARX-160 bipod. Not available here, but Brignoli Silvio over in Italy hooked me up. Ordered the bipod July 5th, got it around the 25th.

Biggest takeaway on both is they stay true to the ARX's focus on being lightweight and able to be operated in all facets using hands alone, or at most a bullet tip.



First, the sights. Both are locking flip-up designs, metal, and extremely durable and well-made, easily on par with Troys and LPA's other offerings. These are definitely not the shitty polymer factory sights. They are very, very nice. Their curves also go really with with the ARX cosmetically, IMO.

The front sights lock both down and up. To move them, you depress a small round button on the left and either raise or lower them. Adjustments do not need tools, as they have a handy little built-in wheel for adjusting elevation. No going out to rezero and realizing you forgot the stupid front sight tool on these.

They have both a black blade insert and a red fiber optic insert. I'm not sure if they were supposed to only come with the fiber optic as LPA's website makes it sound like the front sight comes with both, but the one I got from Fusion only had the fiber optic. No matter as I'd probably only use the fiber optic anyway. It's plenty visible when not illuminated, and is a nice unmistakable brilliant red out in daylight.






The rear sights also lock in place and are deployed by pulling up on a little spring-loaded shell-shaped section on the front of the sight and then rotating them up or down. They have a stop at 45 degrees where they'll click and not be able to be rotated back down unless you pull on the shell, but can be continued to be pushed forward. Not sure what the use for that is, but it's there nonetheless. The shell is more difficult to operate than the simple button on the front sights, but really not overly so at all; it doesn't require an inordinate amount of upward force.

Windage is adjusted by rotating either of the knobs on either side of the sight (they're linked). The thing I like most about these is the novel aperture system. You've got a wheel that can be quickly rotated with a finger or two to your desired aperture without obstructing your sight picture. There is a U cutout for close quarters, which with the red fiber optic front sight is actually surprisingly usable for both-eyes-open irons usage in daylight, making a pretty great ghetto red dot sight. Then a large circle for closer shooting, medium-sized circle for mid-range, and a tiny circle for long-range.






(The sight base isn't rusted, for some reason the color came out weird rusty brownish on my camera. It looks like a very dark brownish black finish to the eye)

Looking through the U aperture:



Only downsides are they don't sit quite as low as low profile sights, but it's really not an issue. My Steiner MRS sits VERY low and yet the irons when folded do not obstruct my view appreciably. You can just see the front sight sitting just below the holographic dot, and if you're shooting both eyes open, it's a total non-issue. Anything higher than RMR height shouldn't even have that.



The other downside is they are not low sights as I thought they were. I'm not sure if they're the same height as standard AR sights, but I believe they are as they're a bit taller when deployed than my Troy mediums that I had on hand. Honestly it actually works out really well with my MRS though. When folded, they are not in the way. When deployed, they are just above the top of the MRS. Perfectly usable.

At this point, I really like them and will be leaving them on my ARX as its main sights.

Then we have the bipod.



I can't help it, but this bipod feels extremely cheap. Feels being the operative word though; it's a perfectly good bipod for the price and while it feels like you're going to snap it in half by breathing on it, in practice it is quite durable. I've already banged it up a good bit and used it for rapidly assuming a position and shooting and it stands up to the beating like a champ. It's made for Beretta by Brügger & Thomet of MP9 fame. It is emphatically not a precision-shooting bipod though; it's made for rapid use in combat and it shows. It's pretty clear being able to be deployed, stowed, and adjusted quickly and effortlessly without so much as a button press was the design aim for this bipod and it does that well.

Want to deploy it? Grab the legs in your hand and yank them back toward you (made much easier by squeezing them together while doing so, but not necessary). Want to stow it? Grab the legs and shove them forward (again, made much easier by squeezing them together while doing so, but not necessary). Want to extend a leg? Grab it and pull it out to the desired length. The only time you press a button is to retract the legs.



It's not very stable on hard, slick surfaces, but does beautifully on rough surfaces, in dirt, on sand, or wherever else. It does not swivel, but it does pan. The bipod attaches via a QD mount and comes out of the box sized for the ARX-100 and -160's slightly wide polymer picatinny mini-rail. It locks on tightly, and uses the little ball with the B&T on it to extend the center of rotation a little further forward so that it's about under the gas block rather than under the rail. It can be tightened kind of like an ADM QD mount by rotating a little nut on the side. As it fits the polymer 6 o-clock rail perfectly and that rail is a bit on the wide side, you'll need to tighten it up a bit for the longer 6 o'clock rail if you use that instead.

Last thing about the bipod I really like? It is VERY light! My KAC precision bipod weighs in just under 14 oz. The B&T ARX-160 bipod? Just over 8 oz. You can feel the weight of it a bit, but it really feels like it's not even there compared to my KAC bipod or a Harris. Would I use it to go prone and snipe with? I wouldn't really prefer it, but that's not the purpose it's made for; it's made to be a very light attachment that is ultra-quick and totally no fuss to deploy and stow if you want some quick, situational stabilization.

It's also a great tool to keep the ARX upright for display.






EDIT: Typos.

Can you provide details about how to pick up the sights via Fusion?  I looked at their website, but this was not listed.