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Posted: 10/16/2014 4:37:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
I wonder if they are actually trying to make the trigger feel better or if it is just the luck of the draw as it is with standard mil-spec style AR triggers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place. I wonder if they are actually trying to make the trigger feel better or if it is just the luck of the draw as it is with standard mil-spec style AR triggers. They really do need to fix that trigger though... |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 8:28:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: They really do need to fix that trigger though... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: Originally Posted By 556Cliff: Originally Posted By vellnueve: Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place. I wonder if they are actually trying to make the trigger feel better or if it is just the luck of the draw as it is with standard mil-spec style AR triggers. They really do need to fix that trigger though... |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:45:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilitaryArms:
It's being worked on by a couple of different folks right now. I suspect we'll see something early next year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilitaryArms:
Originally Posted By AEROMechanic:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place. I wonder if they are actually trying to make the trigger feel better or if it is just the luck of the draw as it is with standard mil-spec style AR triggers. They really do need to fix that trigger though... I suddenly can't wait for SHOT. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:42:50 AM EDT
[#4]
Well, my barrel is off to Adco for the chop, and the receiver should be done at Ident soon.
Not sure if anyone else here has disassembled their barrel yet, but Beretta used a rather odd solution for the gas system. Instead of having a large gas port in the barrel, and different-sized passages in the regulator like most manufacturers, the ARX has two gas ports in the barrel. In S it appears to run on the rear port only, and in N the front port is opened and adds additional gas to the piston. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:56:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Whipped this up for the Beretta forums:
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:11:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilitaryArms:
It's being worked on by a couple of different folks right now. I suspect we'll see something early next year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilitaryArms:
Originally Posted By AEROMechanic:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place. I wonder if they are actually trying to make the trigger feel better or if it is just the luck of the draw as it is with standard mil-spec style AR triggers. They really do need to fix that trigger though... Enjoy your videos but would like to know, ARX vs XCR vs ACR vs SCAR - Your quick ranking and brief why? |
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Posted: 10/18/2014 2:25:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TurkeyLeg]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror: Well, my barrel is off to Adco for the chop, and the receiver should be done at Ident soon. Not sure if anyone else here has disassembled their barrel yet, but Beretta used a rather odd solution for the gas system. Instead of having a large gas port in the barrel, and different-sized passages in the regulator like most manufacturers, the ARX has two gas ports in the barrel. In S it appears to run on the rear port only, and in N the front port is opened and adds additional gas to the piston. Id like to run one suppressed and chopped down, but I dont want to be the guinea pig.  |
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Posted: 10/18/2014 4:56:18 PM EDT
[#8]
It will definitely require gas port tuning depending on how short you go. The nice thing is you can reverse the settings so you use N for Nonsuppressed and S for Suppressed to cut the gas down. I'm told 12" barrel will work on N with no suppressor without gas port mods, but I'm going for around 9.5" to simulate the look of the factory shorties. I also have a Saker inbound for it.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 3:19:55 PM EDT
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I would do a 12 inch barrel also, but I dont know what I would do about how thin the barrel is. The new threads wouldnt leave much shoulder for the suppressor mount to rest against, so perhaps Id need deeper threads and a machined shoulder fabbed up and threaded on as well. Who knows.
I have several different 5.56 cans and a bunch of 7.62 cans also, so Im going to see which one has the least blowback on the Beretta. Post pics once you get it, Id like to do something very similar to your setup. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:09:09 PM EDT
[#10]
The downside is, I think to do it right, you really need the silencer in-hand if you're going to use one ever. You enlarge the rear port first with the suppressor mounted, and once it cycles, you enlarge the front port to get it to cycle with no can. Doing it the other way around will lead to an excessively large front port and probably significant overgassing when you mount a can later.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2014 8:49:24 AM EDT
[#11]
Interesting rifle.
I might get one. I see the pros and cons, but I really do love the choices we have. It will be sometime in the near future that we remember these "golden days" of firearms. Max |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 10/31/2014 1:52:25 AM EDT
[#12]
Looks like the interweb price is $15-1600 and your LGS will be $200 or so more. Sound right?
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Posted: 11/2/2014 4:04:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Interweb routinely in the $14xx range, as low as 1399 if you're lucky. LGS price is widely variable depending on how shitty your LGS is. My LGS is about a 5 on a scale of 0 to Gander Mountain Insanity.
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Posted: 11/2/2014 4:07:42 PM EDT
[#14]
On a side note: barrel came back from Adco, beautiful threads as always. Ident has had my receiver for about a month. I don't mind the wait since they have never done an ARX before. I spent about an hour on the phone with Jason Crum figuring out where to put the test marks for the laser so they can make sure the Beretta polymer is laser-safe. We decided on doing it on one of the nubs under the side rails, since those will always be hidden. I also have a Saker 556 inbound for it.
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Posted: 11/2/2014 5:09:32 PM EDT
[#15]
Can you post pictures of the barrel? Im interested in what the thread shoulder looks like.
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Posted: 11/2/2014 9:50:39 PM EDT
[#16]
I had them turn the shoulder about 1mm into the flare at the gas block, so there's more shoulder. You'll be disappointed if you wanted to see how the pencil barrel looks with a shoulder. BUT, I did talk to Adco beforehand, and they say that 0.570" is the minimum recommended by most silencer companies, and the ARX barrel is exactly 0.570". Adco felt that it should be ok to thread the stock barrel. You would need to be careful about concentricity when installing your mount, but they said that 0.035" of shoulder should be sufficient.
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USA
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Posted: 11/4/2014 9:23:35 PM EDT
[#17]
As requested:
Adco threading work. As I noted earlier, I had them cut it and turn the threads into the flared shoulder just ahead of the gas port, so the shoulder is larger. 
Whole barrel, assembled with Saker muzzle brake. The can is still awaiting Form 3 to my dealer. I need it in-hand before I can do the gas port work the way I think is best. 
Quick mockup of what it should look like when completely assembled: 
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Posted: 11/4/2014 10:18:28 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
Quick mockup of what it should look like when completely assembled: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/paintballplayer700/Guns/IMG_6174_zps3e803b55.jpg Me Likey! |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:33:01 PM EDT
[#19]
Damn that SBR looks good!
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:35:53 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
As requested: Adco threading work. As I noted earlier, I had them cut it and turn the threads into the flared shoulder just ahead of the gas port, so the shoulder is larger. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/paintballplayer700/Guns/IMG_1392_zps53d35ba8.jpg Whole barrel, assembled with Saker muzzle brake. The can is still awaiting Form 3 to my dealer. I need it in-hand before I can do the gas port work the way I think is best. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/paintballplayer700/Guns/IMG_1396_zpscb91b36d.jpg Quick mockup of what it should look like when completely assembled: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/paintballplayer700/Guns/IMG_6174_zps3e803b55.jpg Where did you engrave it? And why do I suddenly have the urge to buy another ARX-100 when I haven't even shot mine yet? |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 6:27:05 PM EDT
[#21]
That looks like it came out well. Let us know what gas port sizes work best for you.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2014 9:14:37 PM EDT
[#22]
that makes the rifle look a little more worth while!! Sweet.....
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Posted: 11/5/2014 10:29:11 PM EDT
[#23]
The receiver is still at Ident. They are engaging it on the underside of the front picatinny rail. Should be hard to spot, especially if I put a fore grip on. They did similar engraving on my shorty ACR's top rail which is hiddent by my T1 riser mount.
As to the gas ports, I'll post my findings when it's all said and done. There's a guy on the Beretta forum who claims to have his working at this length but he went about the gas ports in kind of a bad way IMO. I really like this length and this look, and I imagine it will be a popular way to SBR these if the gas system ends up working well. It's a bit of a risk because there is so little dwell time, but the piston systems don't seem to need as much dwell as on DI guns. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 3:23:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ChickenDaddy]
[#24]
You know what I noticed about this gun? It has a reciprocating charging handle--and I have not heard any hate about it like was directed at the SCAR.
I bought one yesterday too! :) $1385.00 shipped/$1400.00. OTD! What I didn't like about my SCAR 16 was that it seemed very tall. The sights were awesome. Does the ARX 100 seem as tall as the Scar 16? How many of you who tried the ARX's sights will be keeping them on? |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 6:42:49 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
You know what I noticed about this gun? It has a reciprocating charging handle--and I have not heard any hate about it like was directed at the SCAR. I bought one yesterday too! :) What I didn't like about my SCAR 16 was that it seemed very tall. The sights were awesome. Does the ARX 100 seem as tall as the Scar 16? How many of you who tried the ARX's sights will be keeping them on? even though it has a reciprocating handle, it is in a different position than on the SCAR and is not the hazard the SCAR seems to be. with it mounted on the bolt, it takes a very rearward hold to get hit by the handle. I only had it happen once when I did a mag-hold and had my thumb sticking up really high and just got brushed by the handle. whereas with the SCAR, it seemed that normal holds could get you thumb popped if you weren't careful. as for the sights, I had to remove them because they wouldn't fit under my scope. MBUS's fit under it fine. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 6:58:33 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
You know what I noticed about this gun? It has a reciprocating charging handle--and I have not heard any hate about it like was directed at the SCAR. I bought one yesterday too! :) What I didn't like about my SCAR 16 was that it seemed very tall. The sights were awesome. Does the ARX 100 seem as tall as the Scar 16? How many of you who tried the ARX's sights will be keeping them on? That's because the location of the charging handle on the ARX isn't as retarded as it is on the SCAR or even the ACR, their charging handles are to far forward and to close to the top rail. The only complaint I have heard about the ARX charging handle is that it's to small and that the brass deflectors get in the way when retracting it but those two issues don't seem to bother me at all. The sights on the ARX block a lot of your view and are to tall. I will be replacing mine with the Magpul MBUS PRO. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 9:52:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Is there a storage compartment in the grip or end of stock?
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Posted: 11/7/2014 10:30:15 PM EDT
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In the grip, yes.
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Posted: 11/8/2014 8:38:35 PM EDT
[#29]
When is the ETA on the caliber conversions?
How do they plan on making a 308 conversion for the base 223 rifle or are they planning to build a new rifle? |
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Posted: 11/8/2014 9:19:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By commandojoe:
When is the ETA on the caliber conversions? How do they plan on making a 308 conversion for the base 223 rifle or are they planning to build a new rifle? Caliber conversions, I think we will just have to wait and see what shot show brings. There is no plan to make a .308 conversion for the ARX-100, it would not be possible anyway. There were rumors a couple of years ago about an ARX-200 in .308 but I don't know if this will ever actually happen though. |
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Posted: 11/8/2014 10:10:20 PM EDT
[#31]
Yeah, there was never a plan for a .308 conversion. The action and magwell cannot physically hold .308 cartridges. I doubt the ARX-200 will ever exist commercially.
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Posted: 11/9/2014 4:14:37 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Caliber conversions, I think we will just have to wait and see what shot show brings. There is no plan to make a .308 conversion for the ARX-100, it would not be possible anyway. There were rumors a couple of years ago about an ARX-200 in .308 but I don't know if this will ever actually happen though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By commandojoe:
When is the ETA on the caliber conversions? How do they plan on making a 308 conversion for the base 223 rifle or are they planning to build a new rifle? Caliber conversions, I think we will just have to wait and see what shot show brings. There is no plan to make a .308 conversion for the ARX-100, it would not be possible anyway. There were rumors a couple of years ago about an ARX-200 in .308 but I don't know if this will ever actually happen though. The "heavy" was/is an entirely different chassis. Only info I ever found on it was ~2 yrs ago. Doubtful it will ever come to light. I'll be happy if they just migrate more of the A3 attributes into the -100. OTOH, Russian .30 has already been done on this chassis. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 4:47:25 AM EDT
[#33]
Better ergonomics than the SCAR and AR, and much lighter than the Tavor.
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Posted: 11/12/2014 8:53:40 AM EDT
[#34]
I sent off my money Monday.
I'm looking forward to shooting it and converting it to a lefty rifle. I like that the ejection port is open on both sides no matter what side it's ejecting from. What kinds of things are you guys storing in the pistol grip? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2014 1:52:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
I sent off my money Monday. I'm looking forward to shooting it and converting it to a lefty rifle. I like that the ejection port is open on both sides no matter what side it's ejecting from. What kinds of things are you guys storing in the pistol grip? The word "converting" implies much more work than it actually is to make it into a lefty rifle but I'm at a loss for words to describe how easy it really is. Also, I'm storing air in the grip currently. 
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Posted: 11/12/2014 7:22:15 PM EDT
[#36]
If it's airtight you could store a fart in there...
The next thing I'm wondering is....an earlier gun review (think it was shooting illustrated from 1.5 years ago) stated a 6 pound trigger pull--but most reports I see state 10+ pounds. Has anyone gotten a rifle with a better than 10+ pound pull? |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 8:34:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
If it's airtight you could store a fart in there...
The next thing I'm wondering is....an earlier gun review (think it was shooting illustrated from 1.5 years ago) stated a 6 pound trigger pull--but most reports I see state 10+ pounds. Has anyone gotten a rifle with a better than 10+ pound pull? I'm not gonna attempt to use the grip as a fart capture device but you can test that out for us.
The trigger on mine has the slightest bit of grit and take up, it's actually better in this regard than any standard AR trigger I have tried. The pull weight is probably around 8 or 9 pounds. This is just a guess though as I don't have anything to measure it with. It's not as bad as some people said it was, to me anyway. |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 11:22:57 AM EDT
[#38]
I think the trigger is fine. Crisper than most standard AR triggers, but a little heavier, too.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2014 2:02:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#39]
Here is a reminder to read your manual!
If you just want to remove the barrel on your ARX-100 make sure you don't do it the way you have seen in all of the YouTube videos because you can potentially damage your upper receiver. As shown in the manual, when removing the barrel don't just lock the bolt back with the bolt catch and take the barrel out because the bolt catch can release accidentally/prematurely causing the bolt carrier assembly to slam into the polymer upper receiver. MAC actually had this happen at the 17:50 mark in his latest ARX-100 video, though luckily the bolt released before the barrel was fully out of the receiver which eased it's forward momentum. What you do is pull the charging handle back to the notch as if you were going to change what side it was on, pull the CH out and push it into the center of the receiver (facing the chamber) effectively locking the bolt carrier assembly in place. Then you can go ahead and safely remove your barrel without the chance of having the charging handle and bolt carrier assembly slam into your upper receiver. Your welcome, I feel much better now. 
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Posted: 11/13/2014 2:34:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bullet_]
[#40]
I'm confused.
How can the bolt going forward while the barrel is being removed do damage to the barrel locking parts that take the stress of the bolt closing for every shot? ETA: re-read your post. Can you show pictures of how the bolt could hit the poly upper with the barrel out? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2014 7:18:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
I'm confused. How can the bolt going forward while the barrel is being removed do damage to the barrel locking parts that take the stress of the bolt closing for every shot? ETA: re-read your post. Can you show pictures of how the bolt could hit the poly upper with the barrel out? No way to post pictures. (no camera) Without the barrel in place there is nothing to stop the bolt carrier's forward movement except the charging handle and the plastic of the receiver itself. |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 1:27:55 PM EDT
[#42]
Picked mine up last night. Bought it on GB for $1460. Pretty sure there aren't aftermarket barrels out there yet?
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Posted: 11/14/2014 2:45:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Parliament:
Pretty sure there aren't aftermarket barrels out there yet? You would be correct. |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 3:00:11 PM EDT
[#44]
I've seen pics of 762x39 mags on the ar100, and heard they exist, but not as a stocked item yet I assume . I have high hopes beretta will work on these in a much more timely manner than other makers.
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Posted: 11/14/2014 3:03:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ChickenDaddy]
[#45]
Is MAC KEEPING HIS? He never specifically says, but he's had it several months nowEDIT: the folks over at the beretta forums said he is indeed keeping his.
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Posted: 11/14/2014 3:52:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
I've seen pics of 762x39 mags on the ar100, and heard they exist, but not as a stocked item yet I assume . I have high hopes beretta will work on these in a much more timely manner than other makers. Kazakhstan special forces adopted the 7.62x39 ARX-160 so it does exist, just not here yet. .300 Blackout will be first from what they have said. |
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Posted: 11/18/2014 10:56:42 AM EDT
[#47]
Beretta USA website currently lists 7 factory accessories for this rifle: a $40 steel stanag mag and six various lasers all over $1000.00!
Brownells lists a couple small parts |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/18/2014 1:34:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
Beretta USA website currently lists 7 factory accessories for this rifle: a $40 steel stanag mag and six various lasers all over $1000.00! Brownells lists a couple small parts Those same 7 factory accessories have been up on the Beretta website for quite a while and there is nothing ARX specific about any of them. Art from Shooting Sight has already received his two ARX lowers from Brownells. |
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Posted: 11/18/2014 1:43:47 PM EDT
[#49]
I'm looking forward to aee what ART does. He didn't seem impressed in any way with the stock trigger. I think he referred to it as a cheaply made AR trigger with plastic parts?
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Posted: 11/18/2014 1:50:03 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
I'm looking forward to aee what ART does. He didn't seem impressed in any way with the stock trigger. I think he referred to it as a cheaply made AR trigger with plastic parts? He thought it was craptastic for sure. 
I'm just glad he's looking into it because it doesn't sound like Geissele is. |
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