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Posted: 7/27/2014 3:39:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twistedcomrade:
The rifle looks a lot better in FDE IMHO. It does. It'll look perfect in my hands. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2014 2:15:17 PM EDT
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It is just not FDE it also has the original longer forearm rail set up. It is much more pleasing to my eyes then the newer stubby forearm.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:46:30 PM EDT
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I finally handled one today. Impressions, if anyone's interested:
- light as hell - not happy about chin weld with irons - trigger solidly in "meh" territory - safety was ridiculously stiff to operate One's still on my wish list, but it fell a couple notches. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2014 2:15:42 AM EDT
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Bought one yesterday; I've only had time to field strip, clean and play with it.
1) Very light weight but doesn't feel cheap. Everything is solid save for the craptastic BUIS. 2) Safety was very stiff at first. After working with it for a short time and a drop or 2 of CLP it clicks off and on nicely now. 3) Trigger is stiff but no take up or creep . A drop of CLP helped a little here as well. The FCG is polymer except of the business end of the hammer so some of the tricks used on AUGs might work to lighten the pull. 4) I find the gun very comfortable overall. A larger charging handle would be nice and maybe a larger selector tab on one side (switchable so it can clear the strong hand). The only must is a better set of BUIS, Beretta should not even have bothered with these pos. MBUIS are 10x better quality but I'd rather something shorter than AR height so I'll probably get the Troy micros unless someone has a better option. 5) The bottom mag release, as reported, is VERY difficult to work as it also works the BHO (have to push very hard, too hard). Again I found after a drop or 2 of CLP plus playing with it it's beginning to release. Works better with the bolt locked back as of right now. 6) The steel Beretta mag drops free, probably due to it's weight, USGI and P-mags do not. As we already know Surefire and mags with over travel stops do not fit. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:20:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:06:53 PM EDT
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Ok that 11" barreled one looks awesome
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:26:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?155844-Three-Way-comparison-ARX-100-TAVOR-and-AR-15 Thanks for the link, that's an awesome post. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 10:20:57 PM EDT
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I may have to purchase one of these down the road
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:26:08 AM EDT
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Hoping someone that has sent their gun in to have the loose top rail can answer how Beretta fixed the issue. Did they just install a roll pin into the rear hole? Or, is it a solid pin? Photos?
Thanks! |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:01:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: runner6m]
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You fill out a form on their website, and they mail you a packet with a roll pin in it. Just punch the pin through the hole under the rail. Takes about 30 seconds to do, and I didn't even use a punch, just a small brass hammer. They also include a 30 round mag with the kit. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:59:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sunnybean]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By runner6m:
You fill out a form on their website, and they mail you a packet with a roll pin in it. Just punch the pin through the hole under the rail. Takes about 30 seconds to do, and I didn't even use a punch, just a small brass hammer. They also include a 30 round mag with the kit. Found it. Thanks! ETA, how to... 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 9:02:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By runner6m: You fill out a form on their website, and they mail you a packet with a roll pin in it. Just punch the pin through the hole under the rail. Takes about 30 seconds to do, and I didn't even use a punch, just a small brass hammer. They also include a 30 round mag with the kit. Thank you.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 10:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By paddle3:
I am having difficulties locating the form on their website. Might you please provide a link? Thank you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By paddle3:
Originally Posted By runner6m:
You fill out a form on their website, and they mail you a packet with a roll pin in it. Just punch the pin through the hole under the rail. Takes about 30 seconds to do, and I didn't even use a punch, just a small brass hammer. They also include a 30 round mag with the kit. Thank you. http://www.berettasupport.com/applications/php_arx100/ |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:12:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: paddle3]
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By sunnybean: Originally Posted By paddle3: Originally Posted By runner6m: You fill out a form on their website, and they mail you a packet with a roll pin in it. Just punch the pin through the hole under the rail. Takes about 30 seconds to do, and I didn't even use a punch, just a small brass hammer. They also include a 30 round mag with the kit. Thank you. http://www.berettasupport.com/applications/php_arx100/ Thank you for your assistance. The roll pin has been ordered. Beretta noted a delivery time of 3 weeks. The top rail on mine wasn't terribly loose, but some lateral movement could be discerned if I grasped the mounted Burris AR-F3 and applied sideways pressure. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 5:42:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By paddle3:
The top rail on mine wasn't terribly loose, but some lateral movement could be discerned if I grasped the mounted Burris AR-F3 and applied sideways pressure. That's pretty much how they all are without the fix. Since the rail doesn't fit tightly on the dovetail mounted on top of the receiver and the rearmost screw is some distance from the rear of the rail, the rear of the rail has some sideways play. The pin fixes that. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 1:18:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: That's pretty much how they all are without the fix. Since the rail doesn't fit tightly on the dovetail mounted on top of the receiver and the rearmost screw is some distance from the rear of the rail, the rear of the rail has some sideways play. The pin fixes that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By paddle3: The top rail on mine wasn't terribly loose, but some lateral movement could be discerned if I grasped the mounted Burris AR-F3 and applied sideways pressure. That's pretty much how they all are without the fix. Since the rail doesn't fit tightly on the dovetail mounted on top of the receiver and the rearmost screw is some distance from the rear of the rail, the rear of the rail has some sideways play. The pin fixes that. The AR-F3 is mounted almost directly above the second fore attachment/contact point of rail to dovetail. The entire rail flexes minimally when lateral pressure is applied to the AR-F3. (Yes, the rail has been securely tightened to rifle dovetail.) Thus, I wonder whether installation of the roll pin will have any curative effect. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/31/2014 10:49:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By paddle3:
The AR-F3 is mounted almost directly above the second fore attachment/contact point of rail to dovetail. The entire rail flexes minimally when lateral pressure is applied to the AR-F3. (Yes, the rail has been securely tightened to rifle dovetail.) Thus, I wonder whether installation of the roll pin will have any curative effect. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By paddle3:
Originally Posted By willi3d:
Originally Posted By paddle3:
The top rail on mine wasn't terribly loose, but some lateral movement could be discerned if I grasped the mounted Burris AR-F3 and applied sideways pressure. That's pretty much how they all are without the fix. Since the rail doesn't fit tightly on the dovetail mounted on top of the receiver and the rearmost screw is some distance from the rear of the rail, the rear of the rail has some sideways play. The pin fixes that. The AR-F3 is mounted almost directly above the second fore attachment/contact point of rail to dovetail. The entire rail flexes minimally when lateral pressure is applied to the AR-F3. (Yes, the rail has been securely tightened to rifle dovetail.) Thus, I wonder whether installation of the roll pin will have any curative effect. The roll pin pushes the rear underside of the rail up a little so it better locks to the receiver dovetail, plus it supports each side of the rail, so it's can't tilt to either side. I have an Aimpoint Micro with an AR height mount on mine and it's rock steady after putting in the pin. In any case, what do you have to lose? It's a free fix and if you don't like it, you can simply remove the pin (although I can't see why you would want to). Plus, Beretta sends a free mag with the pin. |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 12:16:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: paddle3]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: The roll pin pushes the rear underside of the rail up a little so it better locks to the receiver dovetail, plus it supports each side of the rail, so it's can't tilt to either side. I have an Aimpoint Micro with an AR height mount on mine and it's rock steady after putting in the pin. In any case, what do you have to lose? It's a free fix and if you don't like it, you can simply remove the pin (although I can't see why you would want to). Plus, Beretta sends a free mag with the pin. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By paddle3: Originally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By paddle3: The top rail on mine wasn't terribly loose, but some lateral movement could be discerned if I grasped the mounted Burris AR-F3 and applied sideways pressure. That's pretty much how they all are without the fix. Since the rail doesn't fit tightly on the dovetail mounted on top of the receiver and the rearmost screw is some distance from the rear of the rail, the rear of the rail has some sideways play. The pin fixes that. The AR-F3 is mounted almost directly above the second fore attachment/contact point of rail to dovetail. The entire rail flexes minimally when lateral pressure is applied to the AR-F3. (Yes, the rail has been securely tightened to rifle dovetail.) Thus, I wonder whether installation of the roll pin will have any curative effect. The roll pin pushes the rear underside of the rail up a little so it better locks to the receiver dovetail, plus it supports each side of the rail, so it's can't tilt to either side. I have an Aimpoint Micro with an AR height mount on mine and it's rock steady after putting in the pin. In any case, what do you have to lose? It's a free fix and if you don't like it, you can simply remove the pin (although I can't see why you would want to). Plus, Beretta sends a free mag with the pin. As previously noted, I have contacted Beretta, and have ordered the roll pin. Furthermore, it is most gracious of Beretta to send another of their premium quality steel magazines along with said pin. I have many years of experience with Beretta products, and trust the installation of the roll pin will help remedy the issue of rail movement. Still, there's a little thing called physics: installation of a roll pin between dovetail and rail in the aft portion of the mounting system will indeed stabilize that portion of the rail and reduce tendency towards lateral movement; whether the entire length of the rail stabilizes with the installation of the roll pin on my particular rifle remains to be determined. In my case, if not, then I will remedy through modifications. As is presently, lateral movement of the AR-F3 and rail is only apparent when I apply pressure to the unit itself. During range firing of approximately 650 rounds, I have not experienced the optic changing POA/POI shifts. However, in my experiences, when a rifle is "new" and there's an issue, unless the situation is properly remedied, it usually exacerbates with the passage of time as round count, and recoil forces take toll. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 10:29:32 AM EDT
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I ordered the roll pin, but I continue to feel that the rail movement "issue" is way overblown. All rifles flex like crazy if you watch them fire on a high-speed video. No one has identified any actual problem caused by the ARX rail in practice. This is a non-issue being blown out of proportion by people like Larry Vickers so they can still have a way to say the AR-15 is the greatest human achievement.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 11:39:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: deserteaglexxx]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
I ordered the roll pin, but I continue to feel that the rail movement "issue" is way overblown. All rifles flex like crazy if you watch them fire on a high-speed video. No one has identified any actual problem caused by the ARX rail in practice. This is a non-issue being blown out of proportion by people like Larry Vickers so they can still have a way to say the AR-15 is the greatest human achievement. I completely agree it is not a problem, you can find fault in anything if you want to. I commend Beretta for building a next generation rifle with some innovative features, people are going to like what they do and that is good if we all liked the same thing there would be no different guns made. Enjoy the ARX |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 9:40:37 PM EDT
[#21]
received mine and got to shoot it this evening .
Light which I like. trigger heavy and weird. don't like. iron sights, took them off. magazine (only took one of the two that came with it) would sometimes let the first round come up at 30' angle nose up. would still feed but wasn't right. It was 100% reliable and I only shot my reloads. It someone comes out with a better trigger option this rifle would be perfect. I was looking at the SCAR but I feel I got more gun for much less $$. I give it 4.5 out of five stars. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 9:52:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuilterThanYou: received mine and got to shoot it this evening . Light which I like. trigger heavy and weird. don't like. iron sights, took them off. magazine (only took one of the two that came with it) would sometimes let the first round come up at 30' angle nose up. would still feed but wasn't right. It was 100% reliable and I only shot my reloads. It someone comes out with a better trigger option this rifle would be perfect. I was looking at the SCAR but I feel I got more gun for much less $$. I give it 4.5 out of five stars. Agreed: trigger is stout. Mine gauged out a bit over 10lbs, but at least there's no take up or creep. Good crisp break. Function has been completely reliable through approximately 650 rounds of XM855, and M193. I too didn't care for the OEM BUIS, and replaced with MBUS. |
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Posted: 8/3/2014 10:17:29 AM EDT
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Can you post a pic with the MBUS on it, if you have one? I've been wondering how low-profile they are on the higher rail since you sorta have to run a low-rise optic, and I'm too lazy to take the MBUS off my ACR to put them on the ARX.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:03:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: paddle3]
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Posted: 8/3/2014 5:21:44 PM EDT
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Man those look way better than the stock POS's.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 5:38:14 PM EDT
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I had considered the MBUS Pro, which have a slightly lower profile, but I wanted to keep the ARX as light as possible, and thus opted for the MBUS and AR-F3 combination.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/5/2014 9:32:32 AM EDT
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Any word on if and when they're going to introduce the full-length bottom rail retrofit attachment? Is this truly in the pipeline or just vaporware? Personally, I don't mind the bottom rail cover but might like the option of attachment a foregrip at some point. Obviously the inch or so of rail isn't enough to attach anything that I can think of.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 1:40:25 AM EDT
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Got one on Saturday. I've taken it out twice. Trying to strip it was tough the first time, but after shooting it things loosened up a lot and its easy to break down now. A few other observations:
-it does have a heavy trigger pull, but there's no slop and breaks clean. -I find the recoil to be a bit lighter than my AR's -I personally don't mind the included flip up sights, but I can see where someone might want to replace them -the safety and bolt release were really tight at first, but have loosened up a lot with repeated use -the safety switch is short and tough to engage if you have a short thumb -So far the only mags I can't get to fit are PMAG gen 3's and 20 round PMAGs. I'm running Lancers and e landers no problem. -the rear of the top rail has a small amount of play. I filled out a form on Beretta's website and they're sending me a pin to put in the hole. QC issue I guess. I've mounted a Vortex SPARC and 3x magnifier on it for now. 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2014 12:56:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#29]
In this link they are reporting a lack of accuracy past 100 yards. >http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/nikon-p223/
Note: The GunsAmerica test ARX-100 does not have the roll pin underneath the rear of the rail but who knows if the missing pin is actually causing their problem though. At this point I don't really believe that the pin does anything except make people feel better, since the Italian made ARX-160 A3 has the same rail set up and does not have the pin. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 10:12:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
In this link they are reporting a lack of accuracy past 100 yards. >http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/nikon-p223/ Note: The GunsAmerica test ARX-100 does not have the roll pin underneath the rear of the rail but who knows if the missing pin is actually causing their problem though. At this point I don't really believe that the pin does anything except make people feel better, since the Italian made ARX-160 A3 has the same rail set up and does not have the pin. To be fair, that article appears to have written by some bubba who mounted the scope in contact with the buis. I agree completely on the roll pin. I really only ordered it to get a free nice magazine. |
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Posted: 8/15/2014 12:33:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#31]
Watch bald-O the wonder seal shoot the AS 50 starting at 8:30 to put the ARX rail wobble into perspective. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLL3s7t-wXQ
It doesn't seem to have any problem hitting at 2000 yards... According to bald-O anyway. |
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Posted: 8/16/2014 12:11:08 AM EDT
[#32]
anybody have issues with the trigger not resetting?
shot the ARX last week a bit and it was fine. today, I spent some time trying to sight it in and was doing slow trigger resets til it would click for the reset, but the trigger would not drop the hammer. I would have to apply some forward pressure to the trigger (trigger is already forward and does not move forward) and I could then hear/feel the click from the disconnector releasing and then it would work. If I fired and let my finger fly off the trigger it would reset everytime, it was just when I did a slow reset, that the disconnector would not release.. I fieldstripped the rifle, and with the hammer cocked,when I push down on the hammer, it drags slighly past the disconnector and drags back when I let the hammer back up. by hand, I was only able to get it to catch about every one in 20 tries. when I function check the complete rifle, it never catches, but when slow firing, it would catch 80+% of the time. If it was one of my AR's I'd just drag a file across the back of the hammer's disconnector hook to let it sneak past without dragging. I can't wait until Geiselle (or Timney) release a trigger for this. I'll be calling Berreta on Monday to see what they say. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 10:39:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#33]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fUy_k5S9-I&list=UUZ-qxagOkAmCEP-Tu6YliUQ
Pretty much what I thought the pin would do. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 4:59:43 PM EDT
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IS that loud click after each round the trigger resetting?
Also that target vision gadget looks nifty. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 7:54:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steve_T_M:
IS that loud click after each round the trigger resetting? |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:47:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack_Of_Some_Trades:
anybody have issues with the trigger not resetting? shot the ARX last week a bit and it was fine. today, I spent some time trying to sight it in and was doing slow trigger resets til it would click for the reset, but the trigger would not drop the hammer. I would have to apply some forward pressure to the trigger (trigger is already forward and does not move forward) and I could then hear/feel the click from the disconnector releasing and then it would work. If I fired and let my finger fly off the trigger it would reset everytime, it was just when I did a slow reset, that the disconnector would not release.. I fieldstripped the rifle, and with the hammer cocked,when I push down on the hammer, it drags slighly past the disconnector and drags back when I let the hammer back up. by hand, I was only able to get it to catch about every one in 20 tries. when I function check the complete rifle, it never catches, but when slow firing, it would catch 80+% of the time. If it was one of my AR's I'd just drag a file across the back of the hammer's disconnector hook to let it sneak past without dragging. I can't wait until Geiselle (or Timney) release a trigger for this. I'll be calling Berreta on Monday to see what they say. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2014 9:17:30 AM EDT
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Just figured I'd chime in on my experience. Got my roll pin and free mag delivered yesterday. The mag had some cosmoline-like stuff on it that took some scrubbing to get off but I'll take my nice, heavy, free steel magazine. Roll pin went right in with no issues. Now to get me a red dot. Probably gonna buy my first Aimpoint for this one.
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Posted: 8/27/2014 12:31:30 AM EDT
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Anyone try ordering spare parts yet? Brownells has them listed but nothing is in stock. How about ordering a 300 BLK barrel or a factory short barrel?
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Posted: 8/27/2014 9:19:56 PM EDT
[#39]
The roll pin arrived today, and has been installed. My skepticism regarding whether the pin would remove the rail wobble has proven unfounded. There is now no rail movement what-so-ever when grasping the Burris AR-F3 and moving it sideways.
Thank you Beretta for addressing and remedying the issue. And also, thank you for the excellent quality steel magazine accompanying the roll pin. A job well done!
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2014 12:35:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By paddle3:
The roll pin arrived today, and has been installed. My skepticism regarding whether the pin would remove the rail wobble has proven unfounded. There is now no rail movement what-so-ever when grasping the Burris AR-F3 and moving it sideways. Thank you Beretta for addressing and remedying the issue. And also, thank you for the excellent quality steel magazine accompanying the roll pin. A job well done! Yeah, I never really had any skepticism about weather the pin would take the wobble out of the rail or not. I'm just not so sure that adding the pin will improve accuracy. Hopefully someday we will get to see some longer range accuracy testing with and without the pin and maybe a return to zero test on the quick change barrel. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 11:49:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: esource]
[#41]
Just picked up my ARX100 556 (Top) and ARX160 22LR (Bottom) last week. Tested several mags in the ARX100 with 200 rounds of Federal 55gr. Will report on Mags later once I run them again. In general the Gen2 PMags and Tapco worked great. I have many other mags yet to run. ARX100 recoil is light and enjoyed shooting. Has an interesting "clang" sound when firing. Different sound than AR buffer spring. I currently have 3X Vortex Spitfire mounted and really like it for general use. Will do some accuracy tests later once rifle is broken in with higher power scope and match ammo. My groupings were about 2" at 50 yards, but I was just testing magazines and not going for accuracy. My main complaint about the ARX100 is the heavy trigger pull. Need to measure, but others have reported pull is north of 10 Lbs. I look forward to any trigger upgrades. Are there any fixes for the trigger at this point? Anybody know when the various calibers are coming out? One dealer told me that 300 BLK was due in 4-6 Wks. Put about 50 rounds thru the ARX160 witout any problems. Will test more when time allow. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 11:57:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/31/2014 2:24:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryI'll agree that the trigger sucks, the accuracy isn't awesome, and they should have just put a full 1913 rail on the bottom for civi use. But, everything else you mentioned smooths out with time/use. You can't blame a gun for needing a little break-in. My biggest complaints are the sight over bore height (which member LOS has addressed with his cheek riser) and the lack of QD sling attachments. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 8:11:49 PM EDT
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The QD problem can be cured with Magpul RSA-QDs. I have the loop type RSAs on in the picture, but you get the idea. I've since swapped the rear to a RSA-QD.
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Posted: 8/31/2014 8:41:40 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d:
The QD problem can be cured with Magpul RSA-QDs. I have the loop type RSAs on in the picture, but you get the idea. I've since swapped the rear to a RSA-QD. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/panzerdwill/G%20stuff/ARX100_3_zps0e279118.jpg Or they could have just molded them in to begin with. 
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Posted: 8/31/2014 9:31:07 PM EDT
[#46]
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:42:31 PM EDT
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Does anyone sell a cheek riser yet?
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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:54:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By esource:
Does anyone sell a cheek riser yet? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_2/427084_Beretta_ARX100_160_22lr__Project_Cheek_Piece.html |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 2:41:21 PM EDT
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Labored through another round of fun today. I can't wait for the micro dot and PWS FSC brake to arrive,
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Posted: 9/1/2014 4:18:08 PM EDT
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Also spent some time with a file.
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