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Posted: 6/1/2005 10:51:18 AM EDT
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Holsters
www.kramerleather.com/ Stocks leather holsters for the baby eagle. They make them for the standard, semi-compact and the compact. Looks to be a pretty good variety of them too. I just got my holster in on Saturday from Kramer. The thing is beautiful. Well after wearing it for a couple days and shooting from it I have to say I like this holster a lot. Very easy to draw from, but still retains the gun very well, easy as hell to re-holster without looking. It is holding up well to almost daily wear(so I get used to wearing it. damn pics are a little off www.blade-tech.com-Does Kydex Just got the Blade Tech kydex holster in today. I have been using it for the last hour or so doing dry fire drills and so far I really like it. The tek lok feature is nice makes getting it on and off the belt really easy. Easy to change the angle of the holsters cant as well. So far I like it a lot. I may just go hit the rnage and shake down two new mags and work some live fire from it tonight. I didn't get it out to the ragne last night, I'll get out today. So far though I like the holster, it's quick to get the gun out and in and secures the gun very well. Dillion Precision - Discontinued but if you look I'm sure they can be found still- Thanks to Punani for the write up and the photo. I ordered this holster from the "close-out" at Dillon Precision. Inventory list showed one left, ordered online, and then it showed "out of stock". This happened to me before with them, so I called right away. The guy told me that I had the last one, their leather maker quit making holsters, so they discontinued them. I received the holster a few days later, and it looked like a very nice piece of quality work. Seams and stiching looks nice, and the fit was tight. Maybe a little too tight. When not mounted, the gun drew fine, but when mounted on my belt, it curved the holster, and the gun was almost impossible to draw. I fixed this by working it by hand, and then I taped it in a curve, using some masking tape, with the gun in it. Left it sitting for one day, and then it was a perfect fit. Now it is a very comfotable, nice looking holster, draws good, and is barely noticeable when you're sitting down. www.fist-inc.com-Does Kydex Review comming soon www.sunriseleather.com/ They do custom holsters for the Baby Eagle. Or at least so says Magnum Research. I didn't see anything spesific to the Baby Eagle on theses next three sites, but they are said to make hoslters for the Baby Eagle. www.grahamholsters.com www.brigadegunleather.com www.bulmangunleather.com Parts Springs and pins So far as I can find the best place for small parts, springs and such is still Magnum Research., They don't list springs on thier website I had to call them to order mine. Some holsters and grips are listed on the site, but overall not much is listed. Magazines CDNN seems to be the best place to get mags for the Baby Eagle. They sell both factory mags and the Mec Gar mags. Also if you own a fullsize 9mm Baby Eagle you can use EAA witness 9mm mags in place of factory Magnum Research/IMI mags. The Mec Gar mags for the EAA witness will also work. Currently I run two factory Magnum Research mags, two EAA factory mags and two MecGar EAA mags. All run 100% in my gun. Oddly enough MecGar makes the factory EAA and Magnum Research mags and they are $10 cheaper. Also note the MecGar mags I got were listed as 15rd mags the 15 was crossed off and 16 writen in it's place. They will hold 16rds and function with 16rds loaded in them. Some folks are reporting that CZ75mags can be used in the baby eagle as well. I have not tried any so I can't say from experiance that they will work. Nightsights Both Meprolight and Trijicon list night sights for the baby eagle. The part number from Meprolight is ML-19595 You can order the Trijicons through Magnum Research they list at $129. |
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Cool, thanks for posting!
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Bumpity Bump bump.
If anyone else has a holster they'd like to add to the list with a little review please either post it or let me know and I'll edit the first post to include it. I'd like to turn this into kind of a FAQ on where to get stuff for the Baby Eagles as far as holsters and other accessories. |
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When I'm out in the desert or mountains I use a Blackhawk Omega thigh rig designed for the Beretta 92. CCW is out the window with it, but it stays very secure on my thigh and holds the pistol just right: tight enough to be secure but easy enough to draw and re-holster quickly without looking at it. It's not as sexy as a leather piece but it makes up for it in the uber-tactical department.
I've also used a plain jane Uncle Mikes holster and it works well, and the price is unbeatable. BTW my Baby Eagle is the full size steel framed version, 4.9" bbl, 9mm. photoman; are we the only Baby Eagle fans out there or what? |
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This isn't a zip tie. It's a USGI tactical disposable polymer retention system.--metroplex
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Nope, most just don't come in here. There was a thread in the general handgun section where a couple folks mentioned having BEs, but I never see them in here. |
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I have FIST Kydexs for my Jericho. A buddy has one of the new kydex/leather hybrids, and loves it. DaddyDett |
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Got any pics of either one of them? The kydex/leather hybrid sounds interesting as hell. |
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Those look really nice. I know of somone that uses a kydex insert in a specter drop leg holster(or at least that nylon type) and I thought it was agreat idea because that way you don't have to use the retention strap if you really don't want to. never thought about doing it with kydex and leather. |
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That may not be a bad idea... |
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This isn't a zip tie. It's a USGI tactical disposable polymer retention system.--metroplex
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I like it, ya may not need to have it totaly retained with the strap, and with the kydex incert you don't have to. The strap than becomes just a secondary retention devise. I can see a couple situations where that would be very benificial. |
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I could see myself trying that, but in the back of my mind I would keep thinking that I am buying two holsters to use as one. But if it works like it sounds it would be worth it!
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This isn't a zip tie. It's a USGI tactical disposable polymer retention system.--metroplex
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Bump because the blade tech came in today. (see first post)
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TAG-A-ROO !
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It's got a cop motor: a 440 cubic inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say, is this the new Bluesmobile, or what?
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Bump, will add pics of the Blade Tech holster after the weekend, sorry I've been slackin on updating this.
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Yes, that IS a gun in my pants, and no I'm not happy to see you.
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tag for pics!
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It's got a cop motor: a 440 cubic inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say, is this the new Bluesmobile, or what?
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This is a good thread, but tagging twice? |
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If any of you have or have tried holsters for the Baby Eagle from any of these companies:www.grahamholsters.com, www.brigadegunleather.com, www.bulmangunleather.com and would be willing to do a write up on them and snap some pics please let me know. You can email the write up and pics to me and I'll add them to the original post(with proper credit of course) that way everything will be in one post.
I'm also working on a list of places that sell parts. The eventual goal is one big fat FAQ thread on the baby eagle pistols. |
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Tell's you something how much I like my baby eagle!! DOUBLE-TAG |
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It's got a cop motor: a 440 cubic inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say, is this the new Bluesmobile, or what?
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I havent tried any of those holsters, but I'd be interested in the parts list as they seem to be hard to get without sending your pistol to MR. If you need help with any research or putting everything together let me know, I'll do what I can to make it all work. Punani has officially triple-tapped the thread!! It's all good. |
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FIST Kydex holster review with pics coming soon. DaddyDett |
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hmm I wonder if thats an ARFcom record for tags by one person in a thread??? |
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My experience with the Tech-Lok system is so-so. It's convenient, but it's not satisfactorily strong for weapon retention. We have unapproved any Tech-Lok holsters for duty use--they can be ripped off the belt.
Yours is a CCW set-up, so decide for yourself whether that's important. |
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Mine isn't the CCW one. no way you can CCW with that holster on a belt. Well maybe in the winter with a big coat you could. The kramer is for CCW. And work very well. ETA: I do agree though. This is a good holster for around the range and for like IDPA or the like. I haven't had issues with the tech-lok but it's very obvious that is does have a weak point as far as it staying on a belt. In order to open it up you have to remove the plastic insert and squeez the sides. That plastic insert holds the side from getting pushed in. It is possible if that piece falls out in a struggle that the Tech-lok could come open and the holster off. Of course there is no retention straps so the gun could just come out first too. But yah there are obviously better attachement sytems if yer looking for some thing for a duty/carry gun. |
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Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened
W. Churchill Hold my donut and watch this! |
Pretty much, If out hunting or something I might wear it but mostly I wear it at the range if I don't feel like bringing out the drop leg. I use the kramer and the drop leg way more often. |
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OK,...OK..... Bump?? |
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"You get more with a smile and a gun than you get with just a smile" -Al Capone
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bump to keep it up.
Haven't heard from DaddyDett in a while he was suposed to get me a review and some pics on the frist holster. Anyone heard from him? His last login was 10/19. Any one know if he's ok and just taking some time off the board or whats up? |
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Yes, that IS a gun in my pants, and no I'm not happy to see you.
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Do any of the holster makers have left handed holsters? Even Fobus who just recently made a holster for the Baby Eagle don't have a left handed model. I think holsters for the CZ or EAA Witness will work although the Baby Eagle is wider near the front.
I use magazines from Pro Mag, factory mags, and just recently a Mec Gar 12 rounder. The EAA Witness and CZ-75 magazines will work in the Baby Eagle; the .40 or the 9mm will interchange within the same caliber for all three pistols. I don't know why IMI went to the slide safety, I prefer the earlier frame safety model since it's easier to manipulate. The EAA Witness and CCZ have frame safeties but not ambidextrous safeties as the Baby Eagle models have. |
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I dont know if any holster that is molded for a particular gun that will work with the Baby Eagle, but I use a Blackhawk! Omega thigh rig designed for the Beretta 92F. It fits my gun quite well and they do make left handed versions of it. |
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Yah, most any drop rig, like the Blackhawk, or Specter that will work for the Beretta will fit the Baby Eagle. I run the Specter. Those are available in left hand. Best bet on kydex stuff is to contact the manufacturer and see what they can do. As far as left hand holsters for the CZ or EAA being able to work with the BE, no they will not. Those holsters are modled to the contures of the guns, the CZ and EAA have different front end contures then the baby eagle. |
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bump to keep it alive
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Yes, that IS a gun in my pants, and no I'm not happy to see you.
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thanks for posting this ive been looking for baby eagle holster!! I recently purchased a baby eagle in 9mm.
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Not a problem. I started this thread because of the difficulty I had trying to find equipment for the baby eagle. I fingure with this at least some questions are answered. |
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Yes, that IS a gun in my pants, and no I'm not happy to see you.
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Bump, I know I got to get the pics back up.
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Yes, that IS a gun in my pants, and no I'm not happy to see you.
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I just received a Dillon Holster for my baby eagle.
I'll post some pics soon! |
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For a left hand holster check with Blade-tech they offer them in your choice. It shouldn't be an issue with the kydex stuff. Also Kramer will do one for a lefty too if yopu prefer leather. |
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Yes, that IS a gun in my pants, and no I'm not happy to see you.
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Hey yall,
My sincere apologies. I have acquired one each female romantic unit, aka my girlfriend. I am not posting near as much on gun or soccer boards these days. Most of my free time is spent with her, or my son, or both. DaddyDett |
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Well thats good to hear. At least we know yer not in ditch drunk off yer ass or something like that I'm still interested in that holster review if ya got it or get some time to do it. |
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I decided not to wait around for anyone to make a left handed holster for my Baby Eagle so I bought some leather and made my own:
I made a wooden form shaped like the part of the pistol which is holstered and molded the leather by soaking it in water and placing it between the matress and box spring overnight. The next day I stitched the leather and trimmed it. I added the belt loops afterwards and took it to a shoe repairman to add a snap to the retaining strap. I also made a pancake holster. I'll post pictures to show how they were made. Even Fobus who make holsters in Israel don't make a left handed holster for the Baby Eagle which is made by Israel Military Industries. |
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Blade-Tech, and Kramer both offer left handed versions of thier BE holsters IIRC... |
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I'd rather be out shooting right now.
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My CCW for my 9mm compact Baby Eagle is from Crossbreed Holsters. I am pretty happy with it! It fits comfortably at 3:00 or at 4:30 (where I usually wear it). Mine is tuckable, but I usually wear it with a long shirt covering it.
Out of the box, it's not as 'pretty' as some other holsters-- but WTH, it's 'concealed,' isn't it? It can be ordered with additional accessories, e.g. J-shaped belt holders, with which you 'slip it on' rather than threading your belt through the belt holders. Another available accessorization is to have it made for multiple positions (canted, non-canted, high or low wear) so the Chicago screws can be taken out and repositioned thru the belt holders. The molded Kydex holds my BDE securely in the holster; I am completely confident that, short of being dropped on my head, the pistol won't come out without deliberate intention on my part. The Kydex holster attaches to a leather backing, keeping the pistol (and its multiple protrusions-- safety, slide release, etc.) from making contact with my side. Once I'd worn the holster for a few hours, I scarcely knew it was there! I recommend Crossbreed Holsters for all BDE owners! Mark contacted me about 10 minutes after I posted this (I sent him the URL to this post) to remind me that he builds holsters for 'Lefties' at NO EXTRA CHARGE! Here's a real customer-service-oriented guy! (I'll post pics asap!) |
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When the government sleeps with the media, that dread bastard offspring is TYRANNY! No stupid questons. Just stupid mistakes. |
I just walked in from shooting at the local indoor and was eyeing a .45 Baby Eagle but decided against it cause I thought that no one made night sights or holsters.This is great,I'll go back tommorow and pick it up.I had a Tanfoglio .45 that I loved but traded off towards a Bushy AR that I traded for a Poly M14,I was going to keep my handgun collection all Sig but what the hell.
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I don't remember if I mentioned this in this thread or not... but I found that a XD40 belt slide holster fits my BDE 9mm compact very well.
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If the state cedes power to the police, we will have a police state.
When the government sleeps with the media, that dread bastard offspring is TYRANNY! No stupid questons. Just stupid mistakes. |
Sorry if this has been postive before. Just found a laser for the B.E.
http://www.1above.com/images/laserdevices/16903_2.jpg Baby Eagle Laser Mr. Vargas / USMC |
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In my search for a good holster, i came across Front-Line (www.frontline.co.il) from Israel. They happen to make holsters for every model of baby eagle/jericho (hurrah!).
I ordered a kydex molded holster with a black suede leather lining for the inside. It took literally 3 months to get it shipped from israel to the "new" front-line retailer here in the states. I was going to post pictures here, but it seems my camera is fubar. So, here isthe link to the website, as soon as i can ill post pics :) http://www.front-line.co.il/ |
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Hey guys, I am looking for another handgun, and have been looking at the Baby Eagle in .40 and .45...........tell me about them........should i get one?
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I can't talk about the .40 or .45... but the 9mm I have is excellent! Built like a tank! Mine is an older model, and the following may not apply (the older model has a 1911-type safety, and the new models have a decocker-only safety). Mine goes on safe in uncocked, half-cocked and full-cocked positions. The half-cocked provides a good trigger without having it on full-cock.(I can now go off half-cocked in perfect safety!) The insides look very much like a SIG a friend of mine has. And I'd put it right up there with my 1911 as far as reliability and durability. Ergonomics: I like the way it fits my hand. Recoil (never a real problem with the 9mm) is very managable. I'd say, go buy the pistol. If you don't like it you can sell it for what you got for it, as they are selling like hotcakes on gunsamerica.com. BTW gunsamerica.com us a great place to shop if you don't mind waiting for what you want. I got my BDE 9mm for about $100 LESS than the others were selling for. (I think the seller didn't want to 'cheat' anyone... his sights were WAAAAYYYY off, about 6" at 15 feet, and couldn't shoot straight!) |
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If the state cedes power to the police, we will have a police state.
When the government sleeps with the media, that dread bastard offspring is TYRANNY! No stupid questons. Just stupid mistakes. |
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The Baby Eagle pistols are reliable and are based on the CZ pistol which uses the same magazine. The Tangfolio also uses the same magazine. I heard that some parts are made by Tangfolio for IMI but that may only be a rumor. The only change I would make is to have IMI go back to the Browning designed frame safety instead of the Walther style safety. The frame safety is easier to release. IMI also has a new pistol called the SP-21 Barak (Lightning) which uses the same magazine but has a new frame and slide. The Barak has an accessory rail and a frame safety and is available in 9mm, .40 and .45 calibers. You can read about the Barak at http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg132-e.htm My .40 Baby Eagle is very reliable and my friend has a polymer frame one in .40 caliber. He experience stovepipe condition until I showed him to grip the pistol firmly so his hand won't recoil with the pistol and cause this condition. Now his polymer pistol is shooting reliably. The barrel has polygonal rifling which is accurate but will foul up if you use lead bullets instead of jacketed ones. |
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