I bought my wife one of these about a month ago and she finally got to shoot it this past weekend. I have shoot it before and the only complaint I have is that well shooting, the magazine will come out and not fire. We have to push the mag back in and it's ready. This happens more with the wife shooting it then me. I took it out a week ago along with my G17 and AR and was hitting a bowling pin at a 100 yards with it with the short barrel. Nice accurate gun if you take the time.

Originally Posted By Beckes: Originally Posted By Zack3g: Range report ---- Rant on. Well, I don't have much to say. Fired about 4 mags, and the gun broke. I dont know what went wrong, but pull the trigger and nothing happens. The hammer lazily moves forward slightly and then drops back. The sights are a joke, no amount of adjustment could get the gun on target. The laser also wouldn't hold zero. Every shot shifted the beam to the left. I am sickened by the performance of this gun. I'll be returning it to the dealer I bought it from. If he has another, I'll trade for it, otherwise, I'll invest the money in something else. I was looking forward to being able to put a can on this and do some quiet shooting, but my experience with it was ridiculous. Rant off. The exact same thing happened to mine on the first day (the hammer part), but after exactly 400 rounds without a single malfunction. Then, as if by magic, the hammer stopped working. Turns out the tip of the hammer spring cracked right where it normally sits at the base of the hammer, so it wouldn't cock with any tension behind it. Thankfully the folks at Sportsman's Warehouse were willing to exchange it, since I'd only had it for a couple of days. The new one is working fine but only 200 rounds through it so far... you can bet I'll be really tense around shot #400!

Mine did the same too. I called up Walther and told them the hammer will cock but not release with tention and they took my name and address and sent me out a pre-paid UPS shipping label and I sent it off last week with a note about the problem. Hopefully I get it back shortly.

I have a newer P22 (barrel code AG) and mine had the safety engaging issue as others have had. After the first 100 rounds or so every shot or every other shot, the slide action would cause the safety to slip into the on position and click......no bang. The fix of filing down the inside of the safety levers worked like a charm. I just put 250 rounds through it and not one hiccup.

BTW, the P22 loves CCI Stingers. I also shot Mini Mags, but the Stingers are the shit for this gun. It actually feels like a real gun shooting the Stingers.

I had one a year or so ago. I just got so sick of the FTFs and jams that I wanted to throw it in the lake. Someone offered $150 and I took his offer. I was glad to be rid of that POS.

I have around 1k rounds thru my p22.
A couple of weeks ago while at the range I had a malfunction.
My nephew was shooting my suppressor and had shot around 400 rounds or so and then it started acting up. It would fire the round, eject it, and the slide hang up on the safety.

I took it apart, cleaned it and put it back together and life was good. I fired another couple of hundred rounds out of it then left.

I took it apart again and started doing some mods
I pulled the extractor spring and tweaked it longer (didn't have any issues but it couldn't hurt)
Then I started looking at the hammer/slide/safety issue.
The safety sticks down past the edge of the slide. It is what the hammer rides on when the slide is pulled back.
So I took a file and rounded the top front edge of the hammer to the point that there was only 1/2 mm to 3/4 mm contact with the slide all the way back.

I put a mag in it and pulled the slide back to where it would LOCK.
I then hit the slide lock and let the slide go forward. The hammer was cocked.
I am gonna fire a few rounds outside at lunch to see what happens.

I got the P22 back about 2 weeks ago and they haved fixed the hammer spring and also fixed the safety because it was going on safe while firing. Pretty good return time time considering the 4th of July holiday. My kid and his buddy put about 300rds through it last week without a hitch. So once again we are happy. Smith's customer service came through again.

bought a slightly used one at the store.


went bang every time, but I'm having trouble with hammer follow.

thought it might have been low-impulse rounds so I switched to Federal.


not as often, but it's still happening.

my guess is that I'm going to have to replace the hammer and sear

My chamber finally wore-out just short of 10,000 rounds.

It started with a few FTE's, with the cartridges getting stuck in the chamber..really stuck hard..

After examining the spent rounds, I noticed the cases were expanding after the round was shot, wedging them in the chamber.

Other than that, I've had no issues.
A new barrel is on the way.

I'll say that mine is surprisingly accurate and the trigger isn't all that bad (despite hammer follow).


it's almost too much fun shooting 22s.

I've been lurking on this forum for a while, figured I'd add my two cents. I just bought a P22 recently, picked it up this week and shot it on Tuesday. I fired 300 rounds, 200 of CCI and 100 of Federal. Not a single jam, the sights were off by I compensated by shooting slightly to the left. At 25yds the accuracy drops, but at 15yds the accuracy isnt' bad. I'm pleased with this so far, several co-workers own this piece and have nothing but good things to say. Two guys own the Sig Misquito and hate them, they jam all the time, one has traded his in so far for a P22 and the other will soon.

I just picked up a P22 for my fiance. We both love it, put ~ 400 rounds downrange and it functioned flawlessly. Damn accurate too, once I adjusted the rear sight. I'm going to grind the extractor though, most of the cases were coming right back at us rather than to the side. She didn't like the brass going down her shirt

Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: anyone ever found any good aftermarket sights for the P22? I hate mine, they are very hard to use and not very accurate compared to my ruger sights. My P22 was jamming all the time and I sent it back to smith and from what I can tell they sent me back 2 new mags and that's it. It's much better now but occassionally hangs up going into battery. I think I will smooth the chamber edges like was recommended but those sights still totally suck. Especially for longer range shooting.

I'm looking for a new set of sights too.

tagged....

great info.....

for when I have time....HA HA HA.....TIME.....

i dont feel like reading all 7 pages of this, but heres what i found...
when i first got the pistol, i was shooting federal american eagle and the pistol ran like ass, i sent it off to S&W. it came back about 2 months later, i ran the federal ammo through it again, all the same problems. i changed to cci subsonics, just for shits and giggles, and it has been running about 99% since.
i chalked it up to the usually bitchyness of .22s

are you finding the p22 has a preference for any particular brand of ammo as to goup?
im having a hard time getting any group at 50 feet. the ole mark1 outgrouped this pistol by a mile. i am almost ready to pass it along to an unsuspecting friend but i like the size and weight so much..
also i am getting occasional failure to feed .. thanks for the ideas about the feed ramp... thanks ahead of time htower

My wife bought me a P22 for my birthday. I figure it's a gun we can both shoot for cheap. We eat $30 of .38 ammo pretty quick.

After I picked it up we went to the range and put 400 Remington hollow points through it without a single problem. The safety gave us no trouble, the magazine stays put, and it was accurate. I wish it didn't have plastic sights, but so far, they are fine. It's not like this is a tactical weapon.

The only complaint is, the hot brass comes straight back instead of to the side. My wife now has an exact replica of a .22 shell burned into the front of her chest. Not kidding. It's a red burn spot below her chin, caught there by a turtleneck. Very visible with a regular shirt. She's been good natured about it.

Are there any pictures of the extractor modification to fix this?

All in all, I'm thrilled with this gun. It works perfectly, and shoots all afternoon for cheap.

Thanks, Gonzo. The first time I tried the link to your image, it was broken. I figured it disappeared like so many things on the web.

Works fine now, though.

Why is the angle the way you drew it? I would have thought it would be just the opposite, with the lower left corner being the part to hit, sending the casing more to the right. I just want to understand.

Originally Posted By Dangerous_Dan: Thanks, Gonzo. The first time I tried the link to your image, it was broken. I figured it disappeared like so many things on the web. Works fine now, though. Why is the angle the way you drew it? I would have thought it would be just the opposite, with the lower left corner being the part to hit, sending the casing more to the right. I just want to understand.

I dunno. I tried it both ways, and doing it the way you suggest did not work.

I would theorize that "my" way makes sure that the "point" of the dressed ejector actually hits the "flat" of the rear of the .22 case, and that if you dress to a point the OTHER side of the ejector, it comes into contact with there the "roll" of the shell rim is and that makes things unpredictable.

>>I would have thought it would be just the opposite, with the lower left corner being the part to hit

>I dunno. I tried it both ways, and doing it the way you suggest did not work.


Good enough. Nothing speaks better than experience.

Thanks for the list of mods, and for the illustration. I know you have helped a lot of Walther owners out there, Gonzo, and I'm grateful to you.

Tom

I have had 2 Walther P22 pistols, and they both worked fine. Guess I got lucky. I ended up selling one of those, but I will do the mods to the other one I still have.

I currently have two P22s and they both function fine 'as is' with a variety of ammunition brands. I'm possibly just another lucky one.

Anyone here send your P22 back for repair for the "hammer follow" issue? How did they correct the problem for you? Mine just started doing this in the past few days.

FWIW Dept:

Thank you all for your interesting input regarding the Walther P22 pistol..

Recently I purchased a new Walther P99c/AS and I was considering buying a P22 to compliment it..

After careful research on the web, and your experiences I think I shall indeed pass on the Walther P22. Too many owners experiencing too much grief with the sucker..

Just for information. I purchased a new Firestorm FS22 last year to compliment my Bersa Thunder 9/UC and it is an excellent pistol.. It has shot without difficulty any brand of ammo I've run thru it. Generally I buy the cheapest wwwb stuff I can find, but I oftentimes use CCI Stingers, or MiniMags when I'm just tramping thru the woods..

Last year just for fun I was curious as to how many rounds I could run thru it before it started malfunctioning, and it's somewhere in the 1000rd range. Eventually it got so much crud buildup from the cheap 22's that the slide couldn't close properly.. I cleaned it real good, and it was performing like new again.

Bersa/Firestorm modeled it's Bersa Thunder 380cal and Bersa/Firestorm 22cal pistols after a mix of the fine Walther PP/PPK pistols, and I think it is a super little plinker. I paid $227.00 otd for it.


If you want a reliable little 22 plinker, or trail pistol I recommend you check the FS22 out. It is a very good pistol..

I'm disappointed about the Walther P22, but I'll keep lurking and maybe in a year or two they will resolve the reliablity and durability issues.

I love my P99c/AS...

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy

I like my P22. When I first bought it, I tried numerous types of rounds through it. I found that CCi Mini Mags work the best.
I have tried the SSS, but found they do keyhole.
The one thing I really do not like is the rear site moving around. Is there an aftermarket company that makes a set of Tritium?
When I get back from Afghanistan, I am going to try these mods mentioned.
Thanks!

Mike