Hey, maybe you can help me de-crapify my P22. While firing, the safety engages, sometimes only takes one shot, sometimes take 3 or 4 shots, but will always engage on its own. Also, If the safety is not fully engaged, sometimes pulling the trigger a few times will disengage the safety allowing the gun to be fired. I've heard a few guys sent there's back for a replacement, but I'd rather do my own work!

Can anyone help?

Originally Posted By docdockstader: Hey, maybe you can help me de-crapify my P22. While firing, the safety engages, sometimes only takes one shot, sometimes take 3 or 4 shots, but will always engage on its own. Also, If the safety is not fully engaged, sometimes pulling the trigger a few times will disengage the safety allowing the gun to be fired. I've heard a few guys sent there's back for a replacement, but I'd rather do my own work! Can anyone help?

I believe I read that S&W was fixing this by drilling the detent in a little bit on the slide.

Originally Posted By WalkerTexasRanger: I did some reading over at the Walther Forum and they said it has nothing to do with an L in the prefix. What to look for is the AA AB AC AD AE on the barrel. AA='00 AB="01 etc. They said as long as the barrel is AD indicating '03 production, or later it should be just fine. And yes, the "good" mags are the ones with the "A" in the #. That and the stainless mags... Hope this helps!!!

Mine has an "L" serial number and "AF" on the barrel. I guess maybe the "L" doesn't mean much.

I've fired about 5,800 rounds with only two jams that could be atributed to the firearm. There were many FTF's that I wrote-off as bad ammo (they all had good indents on the primers) It has run better than any gun I've owned in my life.

The first 500 rounds the gun saw was CCI stringers. That's the closest thin I done to "breaking it in".

The cases to tend to eject over my head and down my shirt on occasion. That, I do mind.

Originally Posted By docdockstader: Hey, maybe you can help me de-crapify my P22. While firing, the safety engages, sometimes only takes one shot, sometimes take 3 or 4 shots, but will always engage on its own. Also, If the safety is not fully engaged, sometimes pulling the trigger a few times will disengage the safety allowing the gun to be fired. I've heard a few guys sent there's back for a replacement, but I'd rather do my own work! Can anyone help?

Remove the safety levers. Inside, there are detent balls and REALLY tiny springs. Go to Brownells and order one of their micro spring assortments. Get a better spring in each side with the detents

Use a drill bit in a hand chuck to slightly dress/deepend the detent holes. With better springs and deeper detents the problem won't happen anymore.

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Well I at least ditched the mag Safety. I am loving it already.

I've had the gun for some time now and never fired it.

I had one FTF at first, but racked the slide and was back in business. I was just shooting at some Moldy Buns and must say free hand at about 20feet, it was fairly accurate. Nothing like my 1911, but its definately a fun little plinker gun. I will be definately firing that a lot more since its fun and cheap.

Excellent thread - glad to see it's tacked.

I pick mine up this week

Originally Posted By docdockstader: Hey, maybe you can help me de-crapify my P22. While firing, the safety engages, sometimes only takes one shot, sometimes take 3 or 4 shots, but will always engage on its own. Also, If the safety is not fully engaged, sometimes pulling the trigger a few times will disengage the safety allowing the gun to be fired. I've heard a few guys sent there's back for a replacement, but I'd rather do my own work! Can anyone help?

The fix is not the size of the detents or the spring strength, it is the width of the safety levers. I started having the same problem after 300 rounds. I found the link below off the walther page on http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48 There are a couple of other fixes related to slide wear that are important.

http://pho3nixserver.no-ip.org/p22/p22fixes.html

Basically you have to take off the plastic safety handles and file the back sides so that they are thinner. The balls will then work well in the holes. It took me a couple of tries, since I did not agressively file enough. When complete the safety levers should not be able to float around at all. The new width of the main round part is 0.18" and the height of the bumps is 0.245"

carry on

Just picked up a p22 yesterday. AG code on barrel, A mags. Range report this evening. Taking it to shoot today.

Range report ---- Rant on.

Well, I don't have much to say. Fired about 4 mags, and the gun broke. I dont know what went wrong, but pull the trigger and nothing happens. The hammer lazily moves forward slightly and then drops back. The sights are a joke, no amount of adjustment could get the gun on target. The laser also wouldn't hold zero. Every shot shifted the beam to the left. I am sickened by the performance of this gun. I'll be returning it to the dealer I bought it from. If he has another, I'll trade for it, otherwise, I'll invest the money in something else. I was looking forward to being able to put a can on this and do some quiet shooting, but my experience with it was ridiculous.










Rant off.

Originally Posted By Zack3g: Range report ---- Rant on. Well, I don't have much to say. Fired about 4 mags, and the gun broke. I dont know what went wrong, but pull the trigger and nothing happens. The hammer lazily moves forward slightly and then drops back. The sights are a joke, no amount of adjustment could get the gun on target. The laser also wouldn't hold zero. Every shot shifted the beam to the left. I am sickened by the performance of this gun. I'll be returning it to the dealer I bought it from. If he has another, I'll trade for it, otherwise, I'll invest the money in something else. I was looking forward to being able to put a can on this and do some quiet shooting, but my experience with it was ridiculous. Rant off.

Man, that sucks! I have about 2K through my P22 just with the can attached. I've had no problems except for bad mag that I bought after the pistol. The other 5 mags have worked just fine.

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut: Originally Posted By Zack3g: Range report ---- Rant on. Well, I don't have much to say. Fired about 4 mags, and the gun broke. I dont know what went wrong, but pull the trigger and nothing happens. The hammer lazily moves forward slightly and then drops back. The sights are a joke, no amount of adjustment could get the gun on target. The laser also wouldn't hold zero. Every shot shifted the beam to the left. I am sickened by the performance of this gun. I'll be returning it to the dealer I bought it from. If he has another, I'll trade for it, otherwise, I'll invest the money in something else. I was looking forward to being able to put a can on this and do some quiet shooting, but my experience with it was ridiculous. Rant off. Man, that sucks! I have about 2K through my P22 just with the can attached. I've had no problems except for bad mag that I bought after the pistol. The other 5 mags have worked just fine.

Yeah it does. Maybe I just got a lemon or something. I'll find out on monday. Go trade this in, and immediately take it's replacement to the range and shoot the hell out of it.

man im sorry. i got mine 2 years ago and it still shoots PERFECT! if i take my time i can hit a rabbit at about 75 yards and even sumtimes more. you just got a bad gun trade it for a new one, you wont be disapointed. did i mention that i hav never had my gun worked on or cleaned it(thats probably bad) and it still works like that

Originally Posted By Zack3g: Range report ---- Rant on. Well, I don't have much to say. Fired about 4 mags, and the gun broke. I dont know what went wrong, but pull the trigger and nothing happens. The hammer lazily moves forward slightly and then drops back. The sights are a joke, no amount of adjustment could get the gun on target. The laser also wouldn't hold zero. Every shot shifted the beam to the left. I am sickened by the performance of this gun. I'll be returning it to the dealer I bought it from. If he has another, I'll trade for it, otherwise, I'll invest the money in something else. I was looking forward to being able to put a can on this and do some quiet shooting, but my experience with it was ridiculous. Rant off.

The exact same thing happened to mine on the first day (the hammer part), but after exactly 400 rounds without a single malfunction. Then, as if by magic, the hammer stopped working. Turns out the tip of the hammer spring cracked right where it normally sits at the base of the hammer, so it wouldn't cock with any tension behind it. Thankfully the folks at Sportsman's Warehouse were willing to exchange it, since I'd only had it for a couple of days.

The new one is working fine but only 200 rounds through it so far... you can bet I'll be really tense around shot #400!

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ok, so maybe somebody could help me. I had fired probably 3000 rounds, half remington hollowpoints and CCI stingers (with the can.) Worked fine up until I took it apart. Now I have it together, but my trigger doesn't engage the hammer if the hammer is not pulled back to begin with and even sometimes it doesn't function properly. What can I do before sending it away to S&W

Great thread.

I got my p22 yesterday and it's working great so far. The only complaint I have is that the slide release is a little tough.

The only problem I've had with extracting happens when I cycle through live rounds. I may do the extractor mod for more reliability.

Originally Posted By brianbl: What's with all these "tags" to the thread? Can't you guys just subscribe to it like the rest of us? Ok, sorry... back to topic. I removed the mag safety block and re-shaped it today to accomplish two thigns. 1st, get rid of the frickin' mag safety. The problem with removing it completely is that without it, there is no positive spring force pushing down on the mag if you have at least one round left in (without any rounds in the mag, the mag spring tensioner on the side of the mag supplies the upward force to engage the slide lock-back). Also, since the mag is no longer pushed down by the mag saftey block, it can float or move around, which strikes me as possibly inducing a fail-to-feed issue since the magazine isn't positively indexed now. 2nd, keep some spring tension on the mag (downward) so it is indexed positively and to aid in mag extraction if there's still a round in it. The fix... I examined the areas on the mag safety block and dremeled away any material that would allow it to push down on the transfer bar (which is how the mag safety works). Although i was a little tiny bit over-zealous, it now functions perfectly - no mag safety AND it pushes downward on a partly or fully loaded mag. but... in the event that I want to return the gun back to original condition, anyone know where an easy source for replacement parts might be? I see brownells doesn't carry P22 parts (no surprise there). lastly, I chamfered the edges of the chamber mouth, particularly the upper and lower edges - since doing that, I've not had to "help" ANY rounds into battery - every round that cycles has gone 'home' reliably. If you check the chamber mouth edges you'll see that they are very sharp - a little chamfering went a long way!

I've not liked that since I ditched the mag safety.

I'm definatly going to try that tonight (hope I can find it!! Its been awhile since I've taken it out)

I hadn't shot my P22 in awhile but now I'm starting to like it again (must have forgot how much cheaper thw .22LR actually is.... I only shoot the Federal 550 bulk packs through it, and some occasional Stingers (GREAT when its getting dark).

Sorry for the bad ones, mine has worked great as long as I use anything with FMJ, just like my (High Standard- Supermatic Tournament)

I haven't had any problems at all with mine and it has AC code on the barrel and came with A mags. 2 blued mags with it work good and have picked up 1 more blued and 2 stainless mags to go with it.

Originally Posted By Tolip: Great thread. I got my p22 yesterday and it's working great so far. The only complaint I have is that the slide release is a little tough. The only problem I've had with extracting happens when I cycle through live rounds. I may do the extractor mod for more reliability.

Take the gun apart and look at the slide stop, just the tinyest burr on the back side of this will make it hard to release. Just a touchup with a smoothing stone makes it much easier.

Picked up an OD 5" P-22 with the Walther Top Point II on the bridge mount the other day. Marked AG with -A stainless mags, pretty new production from what I have read here. I was going to lose the red dot for in iron sights but after shooting about 500 rds I thing I will keep it, you can rapid fire the whole mag at a piece of typing paper 50 yrds away and hit it every time. Same goes for a soda can almost. Some can probably do that with the irons but not me.
So far only 3 FTF's, probably due to the ammo being years old, I've shot up everything I had in .22 and some of it was junk.
Very fun pistol for the money....LL