This is fascinating: I guess it really is luck of hte draw when it comes to these pistols!

Originally Posted By santanatwo: I doubt there is anything I can do about the mag release issue, besides hold it in the uncomfortable grip, where just the tip of my finger touches the trigger.

Remove the mag release and add a just slightly stronger spring.

I put the outer spring of the gun lock which I removed, in the mag catch, I Will try an bigger one if that fails. I don't want to make it to hard to take out the mag, but it would be nice to not have the clip fall out as I shoot it. To bad I can't lengthen the throw on the mag release too... any ideas?

well, I guess its off to the range...

Great topic. It addresses some of the things I've noticed. Printed out a copy for future reference. I got my wife one with both barrels and four mags.

I fired 500 rounds from my P-22 today, had only 2 bad Remington rounds that did not fire at all (the rounds were beat) The P-22 fired all the rest. Now, why would I de-crapify, it's not crap from the get, also why would I take it apart and make a gun work better when it's already working fine. I just don't get this De-craping thing Unless you have a piece of crap from the start. Or the P-22 was working fine then turned into crap.

Originally Posted By PocketG: I just don't get this De-craping thing Unless you have a piece of crap from the start. Or the P-22 was working fine then turned into crap.

That's just it. Many of us got models with a lot of problems, and we're working to correct those problems.

I finally got around to fixing these issues today, after I got back from the range. I got it put back together correctly, and it seems to function perfectly. The extractor pulled out ever cartridge in the mag, so hopefully no more problems in that area. We'll see.

Hope you got your P22 working now. I guess I go t lucky--I got my P22 lightly used from a local guy I know from some other forums. It had about 200 rnds through it prior to my purchase. Mine works fine without any problems as long as I stay away from the truly cheapo ammo like Wildcat & Aguila. Mine will shoot Rem Golden bulk just fine.

Just my two cents worth:

I took mine out for the first time this weekend.
Before I left the house, I removed the slide, wiped off the grease, and reasembled. No new oil, nothing else.

After firing 100 rounds of CCI MiniMags (with no problems). I took to 550 Remington HV hollowpoints that I bought in a bulkpack at Wally's. Eight falures to feed on the first round of the magazine....(5 on one mag, 3 on the other)...and one failure to feed midway through one mag...this was early on in the brick (it did not seem to like the shape of the hollowpoints.) After that, all worked fine.

From there, I moved on to some "Thunderballs(?)"....absolutely (in my opinion) the worst .22 rounds made.....dirty, nasty, ugly rounds. 250 rounds of those, without a hitch.
Back to another half brick of Remington hollowpoints....no prob.
On to 100 rounds of CCI Stingers...it loved them.
Another 100 rounds of MiniMags (to help clean it up) not so much as a hiccup!
I never cleaned, oiled, or disassembled it the entire time.
05/05 manufacture, btw....

I wanted to shoot it untill it stopped, but it was still going strong when we wore out!
We had 5 shooters keeping it going constantly!
I was very concerned when I bought it, but am happy as hell with it!

The Laser is very nice! Absolutely worth the extra bucks!
Now, if my TAC-67 would only get here!

Pic of my 15yr old shooting the P22 on Labor Day. No problems noted, but I think the removal of the mag safety would be a good start.

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I justed picked one up for my son today at the gunshow for $250 new and it came with 2 stainless mags with an "A" marking on them. The barrel has "AF" on it so I am hoping, for my son's sake that it will function fine.

It seems there is more negative feedback on these pistols than good. We will find out next Saturday if I got lucky with a good one. I will post a range report and let everyone how we make out.

Originally Posted By xanadu: Pic of my 15yr old shooting the P22 on Labor Day. No problems noted, but I think the removal of the mag safety would be a good start. X www.tripgrip.com/newdir/laborday.jpg/

Your picture is mis-linked, should be: www.tripgrip.com/newdir/laborday.jpg

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What's with all these "tags" to the thread? Can't you guys just subscribe to it like the rest of us? Ok, sorry... back to topic.

I removed the mag safety block and re-shaped it today to accomplish two thigns.

1st, get rid of the frickin' mag safety.

The problem with removing it completely is that without it, there is no positive spring force pushing down on the mag if you have at least one round left in (without any rounds in the mag, the mag spring tensioner on the side of the mag supplies the upward force to engage the slide lock-back). Also, since the mag is no longer pushed down by the mag saftey block, it can float or move around, which strikes me as possibly inducing a fail-to-feed issue since the magazine isn't positively indexed now.

2nd, keep some spring tension on the mag (downward) so it is indexed positively and to aid in mag extraction if there's still a round in it.

The fix... I examined the areas on the mag safety block and dremeled away any material that would allow it to push down on the transfer bar (which is how the mag safety works). Although i was a little tiny bit over-zealous, it now functions perfectly - no mag safety AND it pushes downward on a partly or fully loaded mag.

but... in the event that I want to return the gun back to original condition, anyone know where an easy source for replacement parts might be? I see brownells doesn't carry P22 parts (no surprise there).

lastly, I chamfered the edges of the chamber mouth, particularly the upper and lower edges - since doing that, I've not had to "help" ANY rounds into battery - every round that cycles has gone 'home' reliably. If you check the chamber mouth edges you'll see that they are very sharp - a little chamfering went a long way!

but... in the event that I want to return the gun back to original condition, anyone know where an easy source for replacement parts might be?

Just call Smith & Wesson's telephone number.

Oftentimes, they'll send you an extra if you ask. My mag safety had a "flaw" in it from the plastic casting process, and it wasn't working right with one magazine. They sent me a freebie in about a day for that one.

thanks. You the same "gonzo" on rimfirecentral? small world.

'just got off the phone with S&W customer service. Replacement Mag safeties (pn# 23/ or 266-08-06) go for $2 ea. Also picked up a couple of finger extension butt plates to replace on those flat butt magazines ($3.80 ea).

painless and hasslefree.

the number was 800-331-0852

where is the cheapest place to order a P22 in black??? i rember seeing a webite that had it for 250.99 i believe...

can anyone post up a link??

thanks
steven

Here on the left coast, Sportsman's Warehouse has the P22 for $239. I went witha buddy last friday and he picked one up. I believe that's close to the wholesale price as that's about what I got mine for from an FFL buddy on a onesy purchase. The 'usual' gunshops were asking about $279 for them (and trying to say that was a mere 10% over cost - yeah, right - more like 20% - who ya gonna trust nowadays?).

After reading this thread, I want a Walther P22. Good thing they are inexpensive, but I also want a mossberg 590 What to do?

Has anyone attempted to remove the internal trigger lock from the gun? It doesn't appear that it would effect the function of the gun in any manner....

Originally Posted By Colt_45: Has anyone attempted to remove the internal trigger lock from the gun? It doesn't appear that it would effect the function of the gun in any manner....

The mag safety? Yep, I took mine out.

PMC moderator has never cycled any gun I have ever owned. If you have the short P22 not the extended barrel fake comp gun then High velocity ammo will not be supersonic so no need for subsonic ammo. My gun cycles Remingtion Subsonic fine, CCI subsonic fine, but I shoot CCI MiniMags the most. Winchester Dynapoints are good for guns with longer barrels like the longer P22 or rifles, stays subsonic in my guns including 10-22.

PMC moderator has never cycled any gun I have ever owned. If you have the short P22 not the extended barrel fake comp gun then High velocity ammo will not be supersonic so no need for subsonic ammo. My gun cycles Remingtion Subsonic fine, CCI subsonic fine, but I shoot CCI MiniMags the most. Winchester Dynapoints are good for guns with longer barrels like the longer P22 or rifles, stays subsonic in my guns including 10-22.

anyone ever found any good aftermarket sights for the P22? I hate mine, they are very hard to use and not very accurate compared to my ruger sights.

My P22 was jamming all the time and I sent it back to smith and from what I can tell they sent me back 2 new mags and that's it. It's much better now but occassionally hangs up going into battery. I think I will smooth the chamber edges like was recommended but those sights still totally suck. Especially for longer range shooting.

I have an oddball probem on occasion with mine. On returning to battery, the saftey running across the hammer will cause it to rotate to the safe position after two or three rounds. Whats oddball about it is it only happens with standard or high velocity rounds. Stingers and Velocitors run all day long in it without this happening.