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Posted: 8/1/2014 8:17:00 PM EDT

I got two in today. Here is some pic.

When compare to a surplus Yugo mag it seem to me that the steel is thinner.
Croatian on left, Yugo on right.

ak mag2 by gundamzaku999, on Flickr

When compare to surplus Euro mag the metal seem to me to be roughly the same thickness.
Euro on left, Croatian on right

ak mag by gundamzaku999, on Flickr

I tried inserting the mag in the following rifle so far.

WASR10 - it won’t fit, the lug won’t lock in.
AMD65 - it won’t fit, lug won’t lock in.
NPAP - it fit
SLR107 - it barely fit.
SGL21 - it fit, but it’s tight.
AES10 - won’t insert
M70 - it insert with some force.

Will do a range report soon.

Posted: 8/1/2014 9:19:53 PM EDT

[#1]

interesting.. glad someone took the time for comparisons w other steel mags. Most guys are reporting positive feed back upon receiving these new ''Croats''. But, there's always pros and cons to anything. I'll probably still pick up a few. Noticed Classic has them too along with Centerfire.... but Centerfire is way higher on their pricing than the $11 that everyone else is charging. Nice pics bud.

Posted: 8/1/2014 11:11:15 PM EDT

[#2]

Once again, the Yugo is beefier.

Posted: 8/1/2014 11:29:09 PM EDT

[#3]

Meh, they look thinner even compared to the Euro mags.

I'll pass, thanks for the comparison pics

Posted: 8/2/2014 2:27:37 PM EDT

[#4]

Yeah I'm not happy with these either! Got 3 of them. 2 of the 3 hold the bolt open in my Yugo O-Pap. These don't fit the Chinese AK and there really hard to get into the Egyptian AK. Probably going to return them.

Posted: 8/2/2014 4:42:34 PM EDT

[#5]

Damn I said they were thinner from the pics in another thread several times and people told me I was wrong....

It was really pretty obvious.

Posted: 8/2/2014 11:17:40 PM EDT

[#6]

Thanks for the review.

Please weigh the surplus Yugo body vs the new Croatia body and post the results if you have an accurate way of doing so.

Posted: 8/3/2014 12:02:13 AM EDT

[#7]

Croatian complete mag: 363g
Croatian mag body: 258g

Serbian complete mag: 367g
Serbian mag body: 261g

So the Serbian mag is about 1% heavier.

Posted: 8/3/2014 12:41:04 AM EDT

[#8]

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Croatian complete mag: 363g
Croatian mag body: 258g

Serbian complete mag: 367g
Serbian mag body: 261g

So the Serbian mag is about 1% heavier.

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Took mine to the range today, and they performed flawlessly in my Npap. They are thinner than Yugos, but they function fine. I shot 600rds down range with no issues. They are great looking mags, almost too nice to use

Posted: 8/3/2014 5:10:58 PM EDT

[#9]

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Croatian complete mag: 363g
Croatian mag body: 258g

Serbian complete mag: 367g
Serbian mag body: 261g

So the Serbian mag is about 1% heavier.

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Thanks for posting that. That's not much difference in weight. If they were made from thinner material the weight difference would be more substantial.

Posted: 8/3/2014 6:08:48 PM EDT

[#10]

Yeah, I got one. Metal looks and feels the same thickness but the stamping is more crude and there are about 1/2 the spot welds holding it together. Blueing is nice though.

EDIT: weighed one of each on my digital fish scale, as stated above they both have identical weight - 13 oz.

Posted: 8/3/2014 8:51:44 PM EDT

[#11]

Uninspiring...especially the lockup issues.

Even if the overall weight is similar, that doesn't account for where the weight/material is distributed, and whether or not those are critical areas. These nuances can make a big difference. I'm glad I held back on these and bought more if of the proven Combloc mags instead.

Posted: 8/3/2014 9:44:50 PM EDT

[#12]

Just cause it's raining and I'm bored, I measured the thickness of a Yugo mag and a new Serbian with a micrometer.
Results are:
Yugo - 0.030"
Serbian - 0.034"

Serbian is actually a little thicker, but close enough to be called the same.

The spring length is equal. Follower looks the same but has a hole stamped in the side.

My one mag I have fits fine in the rifles I've tried it in.

Posted: 8/3/2014 9:47:08 PM EDT

[#13]

I just don't care much for the damn billboard stamped on the side of the mag.

Posted: 8/3/2014 9:58:26 PM EDT

[#14]

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I just don't care much for the damn billboard stamped on the side of the mag.

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Me neither, that's why I only got one for the collection.

Posted: 8/6/2014 8:22:35 PM EDT

[#15]

In another 5 years everyone will be looking for them at $20.00 ea.

Posted: 8/6/2014 11:49:36 PM EDT

[#16]

These remind me of my Bulgarian steel commercial mags (which are DEFININTELY thinner, but also work very well, anyway). I almost bit on these Croats, but I think I may want to try some Toth Tool's or wait until the MP "reinforced" mags come out.

Posted: 8/7/2014 9:58:07 PM EDT

[#17]

Did not even insert into my Norinco 56
Never encountered this with any other mag
I was eager to try a shiny new mag
Dangnabit

Posted: 8/8/2014 1:26:53 AM EDT

[#18]

They only fit one of my AK's a WASR 10 that most mags fit with plenty of wobble. They tightened that magwell right up

Posted: 8/8/2014 9:08:22 PM EDT

[#19]

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They only fit one of my AK's a WASR 10 that most mags fit with plenty of wobble. They tightened that magwell right up

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My Bulgarian steel mags are wobbly in my Romanian when empty, but are nice and tight when full (the Bulgies swell quite a bit, due to being thinner).
Were these tight empty, or full (or the same either way)? If tight when empty, these may be no-go for many AK's.

Posted: 8/8/2014 9:12:12 PM EDT

[#20]

If anyone has tried these in a Saiga or O-PAP, please report.

Posted: 8/11/2014 11:27:18 AM EDT

[#21]

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They fit great in my Arsenal SGL-21 and a little tight in my o-pap

Posted: 8/11/2014 11:58:31 AM EDT

[#22]

Good in my opap not in my Chinese or Egyptian AK's. Plus I got 3 and only two held the bolt back. These might be going back.

Posted: 8/14/2014 12:17:59 AM EDT

[#23]

They are a super tight fit in my M92. Rear locking lug looks a little thick.

Posted: 8/14/2014 8:22:08 PM EDT

[#24]

Are these Croatian mags built for the civilian export market, or are they the exact mag that is mil issued?

Posted: 8/28/2014 4:13:38 PM EDT

[#25]

thanks for that awesome report and pics OP

Posted: 8/28/2014 4:47:03 PM EDT

[#26]

Since I have a NPAP and a SLR107, kinda glad I didn't get these.

Posted: 8/31/2014 6:00:54 AM EDT

[#27]

Did not fit in my factory Maadi. Fit fine in my Arsenal Saiga and M92 pistol.

Posted: 8/31/2014 9:22:33 AM EDT

[#28]

All of the after market AK mags just seem to be junk.

Whether they are made in Poland, Bulgaria, or Serbia.

Go with actual surplus mags.

Posted: 8/31/2014 9:23:46 AM EDT

[#29]

All of the after market AK mags just seem to be junk.

Whether they are made in Poland, Bulgaria, or Serbia.

Go with actual surplus mags.

Posted: 8/31/2014 10:41:59 AM EDT

[#30]

Agree! Sent mine back!

Posted: 9/1/2014 9:37:05 AM EDT

[#31]

Good review. Thanks for taking the time

Posted: 9/18/2014 6:08:59 PM EDT

[#32]

They don't fit in my N-PAP-DF. Should have known better.

Posted: 9/20/2014 4:38:23 AM EDT

[#33]

They are nice mags, but they did not fit my James River Polish AK.

-Bryan

Posted: 10/11/2014 4:40:28 PM EDT

[#34]

These mags have fit and worked great in my ak103u.

Posted: 10/12/2014 3:53:04 AM EDT

[#35]

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They don't fit in my N-PAP-DF. Should have known better.

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They did not fit mine either. With about 30 seconds with a file it did. I noticed it looked like it was hitting the rivet that goes across the receiver.
Verify that the flat side of that rivet is facing the chamber. The silver part in the pic below is where I removed some metal. It fits great now.

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Posted: 10/12/2014 11:49:53 AM EDT

[#36]

I did check the rivet position and it was ok. I thought about taking a file to one but sent them back instead. They seemed like decent mags. Tapco mags all fit fine in this rifle but almost all the surplus don't. Guess I will need to get my file out if I want to use metal mags.

Posted: 10/12/2014 11:50:57 PM EDT

[#37]

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I did check the rivet position and it was ok. I thought about taking a file to one but sent them back instead. They seemed like decent mags. Tapco mags all fit fine in this rifle but almost all the surplus don't. Guess I will need to get my file out if I want to use metal mags.

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I have had to file a lot of surplus steel mags, Chinese, Romanian and probably a few others. Sometimes its the tabs or sides of the mags. if they work in the end i don't worry about it.

Posted: 10/17/2014 2:21:03 AM EDT

[#38]

I received mine today. "No go" for M+M M10-762. I thought I'd have good luck with the, since their reputation is for fitting tight and my M10 is a little on the sloppy side (my Bulgarian steel mags, my favorites, have a bit of up/down and side to side play in that rifle). They DO snap in, but you have to slap the holy hell of them to get them to click in. The problem isn't just the mag catch (which on MY M10, has already been shaved down a tad to fit combloc mags), it's also the shape of the mag. The Croatian mags are more square in front than combloc mags. It actually fits too tight front/back as well. Once it's in, it is rock solid, but it's of no use if it doesn't chance out easily (one reason I prefer a bit of a sloppy fit over TIGHT mags).
I do hear they work great in milled versions, such as the C39, so I'll keep them as that's next on my list.

Posted: 10/17/2014 3:17:12 PM EDT

[#39]

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I received mine today. "No go" for M+M M10-762. I thought I'd have good luck with the, since their reputation is for fitting tight and my M10 is a little on the sloppy side (my Bulgarian steel mags, my favorites, have a bit of up/down and side to side play in that rifle). They DO snap in, but you have to slap the holy hell of them to get them to click in. The problem isn't just the mag catch (which on MY M10, has already been shaved down a tad to fit combloc mags), it's also the shape of the mag. The Croatian mags are more square in front than combloc mags. It actually fits too tight front/back as well. Once it's in, it is rock solid, but it's of no use if it doesn't chance out easily (one reason I prefer a bit of a sloppy fit over TIGHT mags).
I do hear they work great in milled versions, such as the C39, so I'll keep them as that's next on my list.

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I have had the same problem with Yugo mags in AK's like Arsenal rifles that had the mag wells opened up after they were imported into the US.

Some mags were so tight i had to use a rubber mallet to hit the mag release to get the mag out.The Yugo's are thicker steel is why i think they are tighter in some rifles.

I got rid of all my Yugo mags for this reason.My mags need to fit ALL of my rifles without being too tight,if they dont insert or release quickly they are sold.

Posted: 10/31/2014 9:54:06 PM EDT

[#40]

I just got 4 from Apex and they fit snugly in my new npap.

No wobble what so ever

Posted: 11/7/2014 8:47:02 PM EDT

[#41]

I have a friend who got ten I will see if he has tried them yet

Posted: 11/8/2014 2:00:43 AM EDT

[#42]

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Please tell us how they fit.

Thanks,

Posted: 11/11/2014 2:25:41 PM EDT

[#43]

They fit in the loosest AK fine. They required a little clean up on the rear as shown above to work in the tighter gun

Posted: 11/15/2014 4:00:26 PM EDT

[#44]

These fit so tight in my M92 that I have to whack the mag release with another mag to get them out. I've never filed a mag before. Any suggestions on how exactly to make them fit?

Posted: 11/18/2014 12:01:55 AM EDT

[#45]

crickets?

Posted: 11/18/2014 8:05:43 PM EDT

[#46]

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crickets?

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They don't fit in my N-PAP-DF. Should have known better.

They did not fit mine either. With about 30 seconds with a file it did. I noticed it looked like it was hitting the rivet that goes across the receiver.
Verify that the flat side of that rivet is facing the chamber. The silver part in the pic below is where I removed some metal. It fits great now.
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Posted: 11/18/2014 9:06:52 PM EDT

[#47]

I want one just for the collection, but not worth the shipping charges to just buy one, and i'm with Flyleaf, mags need to fit all my rifles, and most do.

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