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Posted: 5/20/2014 10:01:06 PM EDT
Who makes it? I bought 2 of these as a impulse buy on an ammo order, I believe at Ammo To Go. Hopefully it will serve as a decent range mag. The only steel parts are the spring, base plate, and feed lips liner. The liner does not extend to the front of the magazine or the locking tab.
     I have some steel ridgeback Bulgies as well (although they also have polymer followers, so I guess people will tell me they are crap). |
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Posted: 5/20/2014 11:49:02 PM EDT
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Made by ISD LTd. of Bulgaria.
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Posted: 5/21/2014 1:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Made by ISD LTd. of Bulgaria. How do they stack up, quality wise, in the world of AK mags? I think I paid $8-9 for these a few years back. I figure the non-reinforced locking tab means these suckers can break without warning. I'm guessing the polymer is weak, too. |
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Posted: 5/21/2014 1:29:54 PM EDT
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This is the mag SIG is shipping with the 556R rifle in 7.62x39. Seems to be a decent mag to me.
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Posted: 5/21/2014 6:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the mag SIG is shipping with the 556R rifle in 7.62x39. Seems to be a decent mag to me. Interesting. Are you referring to the 556xi in 7.62x39, or the version prior to the xi? |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 5:49:04 AM EDT
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Those are Bulgarian smooth side commercial mags. Great range mags (a step above tapco in my mind) but wouldn't use them for serious use.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 4:27:48 PM EDT
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Those are Bulgarian smooth side commercial mags. Great range mags (a step above tapco in my mind) but wouldn't use them for serious use. This. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 4:29:50 PM EDT
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Tapco
Well maybe Tapco smooth side ak mag |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 4:34:58 PM EDT
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Those are Bulgarian smooth side commercial mags. Great range mags (a step above tapco in my mind) but wouldn't use them for serious use. This. X2. Get some (10) and steel mags for your 556R. The (10) will need slight grinding under the front notch to fit. Ask me how I know! |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 5:10:25 PM EDT
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I had some of them, the front lugs break very easily. I broke this one trying to get it to seat. This was just from slapping the mag with my hand.
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Posted: 5/22/2014 5:37:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had some of them, the front lugs break very easily. I broke this one trying to get it to seat. This was just from slapping the mag with my hand. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x66/biffjr99/IMG_2617_zps60277450.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x66/biffjr99/IMG_2618_zpsb8104e6c.jpg Well, I'm glad I spent less than $20 for the 2. Here's the mags I normally use. They are Bulgies with plastic followers, so I guess they are commercial. They have never given me trouble, but admittedly, I don't do a whole lot of shooting with my AK.  |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 5:52:13 PM EDT
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Those are Bulgarian smooth side commercial mags. Great range mags (a step above tapco in my mind) but wouldn't use them for serious use. This. +1 |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 9:35:13 PM EDT
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So, who makes the metal mags I use?
And, why is it that in the AK world, people don't seem to be interested in what company makes gear, only which country it comes from? In the AR world, we don't talk about "American mags" or "Canadian mags", we say Magpul, Thermold, etc. I'm guessing the answer is "communism", but surely these days there are multiple private companies in each eastern bloc country making AK-related products, no? Oh, and thanks for putting up with my AK ignorance. My only AK is an Arsenal SGL-21 that I got when they were like $500. I wish I had bought a stack of them, but it wasn't in the cards at the time. |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 9:42:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: X2. Get some (10) and steel mags for your 556R. The (10) will need slight grinding under the front notch to fit. Ask me how I know! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Those are Bulgarian smooth side commercial mags. Great range mags (a step above tapco in my mind) but wouldn't use them for serious use. This. X2. Get some (10) and steel mags for your 556R. The (10) will need slight grinding under the front notch to fit. Ask me how I know! I don't have a Sig. I wanted one, but the version 1 hiccups turned me off. I have it on good authority that they are planning on releasing a 556xi in 7.62x39 in pistol configuration w/ the Sig brace. All the functionality of a SBR in 7.62x39, without the registration hassles? Yes, please! Hopefully, the xi in 7.62x39 won't have mag fitting issues. |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 5:47:42 AM EDT
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So, who makes the metal mags I use? And, why is it that in the AK world, people don't seem to be interested in what company makes gear, only which country it comes from? In the AR world, we don't talk about "American mags" or "Canadian mags", we say Magpul, Thermold, etc. I'm guessing the answer is "communism", but surely these days there are multiple private companies in each eastern bloc country making AK-related products, no? Oh, and thanks for putting up with my AK ignorance. My only AK is an Arsenal SGL-21 that I got when they were like $500. I wish I had bought a stack of them, but it wasn't in the cards at the time. Because most of the mags are being bought as surplus and noone is 100% certain what specific company made them. They only know the nation of origin. Some nations of origin have developed a better reputation for quality than others.......Also, many of the magazines for sale are used and there is no real way to know where they came from with certainty. That's why you hear things like "Standard Euro Pattern Mag"......Generally that means a 30 round, ribbed back magazine. Could have been made in Russia, Poland, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria or East Germany- and it doesn't really matter- they're all the same for the most part. |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 10:33:12 PM EDT
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So, no one knows who makes the metal mags pictured?
Interesting. |
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Posted: 5/24/2014 5:14:39 AM EDT
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Usually the rib pattern, weld markings, and, if present, any proof stamps on the spine help to identify the country of orgin.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 10:20:47 AM EDT
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I would be willing to guess that many were not marked on purpose so country of origin could not be traced for one reason or another.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 6:56:38 PM EDT
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So, no one knows who makes the metal mags pictured? Interesting. Uh, didn't you post that they are Bulgarian? 
From what you describe, those are not mil-spec and most people use them as range mags. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 2:36:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, didn't you post that they are Bulgarian? From what you describe, those are not mil-spec and most people use them as range mags. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, no one knows who makes the metal mags pictured? Interesting. Uh, didn't you post that they are Bulgarian? From what you describe, those are not mil-spec and most people use them as range mags. A country is not a company. That would be like if I showed you a PMAG, you asked me who made it, and I told you "America". |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:59:51 AM EDT
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A country is not a company. That would be like if I showed you a PMAG, you asked me who made it, and I told you "America". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, no one knows who makes the metal mags pictured? Interesting. Uh, didn't you post that they are Bulgarian?
From what you describe, those are not mil-spec and most people use them as range mags. A country is not a company. That would be like if I showed you a PMAG, you asked me who made it, and I told you "America". Nobody knows and nobody cares, they either work or they don't. Only AR owners are anal about magazines- they have to be....Country of origin is usually good enough. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:23:57 AM EDT
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A country is not a company. That would be like if I showed you a PMAG, you asked me who made it, and I told you "America". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, no one knows who makes the metal mags pictured? Interesting. Uh, didn't you post that they are Bulgarian?
From what you describe, those are not mil-spec and most people use them as range mags. A country is not a company. That would be like if I showed you a PMAG, you asked me who made it, and I told you "America". Are there any factory stamping? You expect us to know if you don't post photos of markings? 
((10)) is Arsenal Inc. ((21)) is NITI Kazanlak ((25)) is Optico-Electron |
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:18:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any factory stamping? You expect us to know if you don't post photos of markings? ((10)) is Arsenal Inc. ((21)) is NITI Kazanlak ((25)) is Optico-Electron Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, no one knows who makes the metal mags pictured? Interesting. Uh, didn't you post that they are Bulgarian? From what you describe, those are not mil-spec and most people use them as range mags. A country is not a company. That would be like if I showed you a PMAG, you asked me who made it, and I told you "America". Are there any factory stamping? You expect us to know if you don't post photos of markings? ((10)) is Arsenal Inc. ((21)) is NITI Kazanlak ((25)) is Optico-Electron I can't respect a person that is too blind to see the pictures I posted, then complains about me not posting pictures. Sorry. |
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:27:01 AM EDT
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Since there are no markings on the metal mags (as clearly shown in my pictures), I guess it will remain a mystery. Oh well, they seem to be working well.
I will be excited when Magpul releases their reinforced AK mags... that way I have a product from a manufacturer w/ a no B.S. warranty. It may take a while to be released, and that's okay. Magpul has stated that they spent 3 years and 100,000 rounds developing the gen 3 AR mags. They are also very quick to fix any issues that are discovered in the field, and make their customers happy. If any of my Bulgarian mags break (like the pics above from gtate), I have no one to go to. |
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:33:15 AM EDT
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Since there are no markings on the metal mags (as clearly shown in my pictures), I guess it will remain a mystery. Oh well, they seem to be working well. The markings are too small to see in your pics. They are very small and sometimes very faint. 
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:40:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The markings are too small to see in your pics. They are very small and sometimes very faint. http://i.imgur.com/fLWMW.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Since there are no markings on the metal mags (as clearly shown in my pictures), I guess it will remain a mystery. Oh well, they seem to be working well. The markings are too small to see in your pics. They are very small and sometimes very faint. http://i.imgur.com/fLWMW.jpg Well then, I stand corrected. My apologies. I went over my mags again with a fine-tooth comb in the light, and I found numbers on the end of the locking tabs. This would be the surface that faces the rear of the rifle when locked into the rifle. They all have a single digit, but the number varies. ETA: These numbers are the only markings I can find. Kind of looks like an upside down 6 or a backwards 9:  A 3 maybe?  You don't see anything here? Neither do I:  That would be a "2":  |
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:45:35 AM EDT
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Well then, I stand corrected. My apologies. I went over my mags again with a fine-tooth comb in the light, and I found numbers on the end of the locking tabs. This would be the surface that faces the rear of the rifle when locked into the rifle. They all have a single digit, but the number varies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since there are no markings on the metal mags (as clearly shown in my pictures), I guess it will remain a mystery. Oh well, they seem to be working well. The markings are too small to see in your pics. They are very small and sometimes very faint. http://i.imgur.com/fLWMW.jpg Well then, I stand corrected. My apologies. I went over my mags again with a fine-tooth comb in the light, and I found numbers on the end of the locking tabs. This would be the surface that faces the rear of the rifle when locked into the rifle. They all have a single digit, but the number varies. Here is a good thread from (of all places) GlockTalk http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1104378 |
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