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Posted: 5/25/2016 4:19:25 PM EDT
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I don't have much positive experience with steel case. It's caused jams every time I have tried using it. My barrels (none of which can shoot steel case) are all chambered in .223 Wylde. If my experience has taught me anything re steel case I would avoid Wylde chamber... 5.56 (mil spec, not Noveske or LaRue who call there chamber 5.56 but it's actually more like Wylde, not that your looking for that type of barrel anyway) I believe should work better but I can't make any guarantees. Basically I think you would want to look for the wide end of the spectrum tolerances.
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Posted: 5/25/2016 4:21:19 PM EDT
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Or just build a AR/AK
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Posted: 5/25/2016 4:32:24 PM EDT
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Or just build a AR/AK Not an option. It's good to know what barrels I should avoid. I thought a Wylde chamber is what I needed. Good to know. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:24:33 PM EDT
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I have never had a problem with steel ammo using a chrome lined barrel. I don't know if that makes a difference or if it's just coincidence. Other types I have had issues with.
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:27:55 PM EDT
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I have never had a problem with steel ammo using a chrome lined barrel. I don't know if that makes a difference or if it's just coincidence. Other types I have had issues with. Any brand recommendations? I've been reading Ballistic Advantage is good for this application. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:33:12 PM EDT
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Any brand recommendations? I've been reading Ballistic Advantage is good for this application. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have never had a problem with steel ammo using a chrome lined barrel. I don't know if that makes a difference or if it's just coincidence. Other types I have had issues with. Any brand recommendations? I've been reading Ballistic Advantage is good for this application. No experience with them. I have heard good things though. They aren't CL AFAIK. I use DD barrels in the rifles I use the most. They eat everything I have fed them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:33:48 PM EDT
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Any brand recommendations? I've been reading Ballistic Advantage is good for this application. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have never had a problem with steel ammo using a chrome lined barrel. I don't know if that makes a difference or if it's just coincidence. Other types I have had issues with. Any brand recommendations? I've been reading Ballistic Advantage is good for this application. I just ordered an 11.5" BA barrel from Right to Bear, based on the reviews I've read here. I was also looking at Faxon, but their 11.5" is a middy, and it sounds like it's geared towards suppressor use, so I stuck with the carbine. As far as steel case goes, I don't know, I just ordered it yesterday. <edit> PSA also carries a 12" CHF barrel, and Right to Bear had an 11.5" Spikes CHF barrel, I think it also said FN, but I can't remember for sure. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:42:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:54:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's about what I paid from Right to Bear, after shipping. I would post a link, but that web site is blocked at work. Somehow, my company hasn't flagged AR15.com as a "Firearms" web site. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 11:09:23 PM EDT
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KAK has some 12.5 556 melonite barrels in carbine and also mid. i talked to the owner awhile back and he mentioned he only shoots steel case on most of his plinker outings.. price is right also
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Posted: 5/25/2016 11:34:38 PM EDT
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I dont shoot steel case but am a fan of BA barrels. If you go that route check Shuyler arms. Site sponsor with good prices
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Posted: 5/26/2016 1:31:53 AM EDT
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I had an upper built with the BA 11.5" melonite barrel and it shot everything I fed it...including crappy Tula and Wolf. I shot about 100 rounds of steel-cased ammo to check if it would feed/function fine and then went back to shooting Wolf Gold.
The BA is a great budget barrel, but I would be fine with the Faxon or KAK Value line mentioned earlier. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 10:06:33 AM EDT
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Any quality barrel will be fine...don't overthink this.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 10:06:32 PM EDT
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Any quality barrel will be fine...don't overthink this. Will do. Thought best to ask before trying to fix something. So, I may be able to get a Colt MK18 upper (factory) at a good price. How would that upper be with steel cased ammo? I specifically ask because my 6920 SOCOM upper did poorly. Cases would stick often. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 12:06:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just ordered an 11.5" BA barrel from Right to Bear, based on the reviews I've read here. I was also looking at Faxon, but their 11.5" is a middy, and it sounds like it's geared towards suppressor use, so I stuck with the carbine. As far as steel case goes, I don't know, I just ordered it yesterday. <edit> PSA also carries a 12" CHF barrel, and Right to Bear had an 11.5" Spikes CHF barrel, I think it also said FN, but I can't remember for sure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have never had a problem with steel ammo using a chrome lined barrel. I don't know if that makes a difference or if it's just coincidence. Other types I have had issues with. Any brand recommendations? I've been reading Ballistic Advantage is good for this application. I just ordered an 11.5" BA barrel from Right to Bear, based on the reviews I've read here. I was also looking at Faxon, but their 11.5" is a middy, and it sounds like it's geared towards suppressor use, so I stuck with the carbine. As far as steel case goes, I don't know, I just ordered it yesterday. <edit> PSA also carries a 12" CHF barrel, and Right to Bear had an 11.5" Spikes CHF barrel, I think it also said FN, but I can't remember for sure. I have a Faxon 11.5 Mid-Length... it was designed for all around use, really. You also get the benefit of slightly less recoil of the longer gas system. The gas ports is a bit enlarged and an adjustable gas block is recommended, so it will work with whatever setup you intend to run (various buffer weights, suppressors etc)... i use standard block and it works just fine with it and with any ammo so far. Faxon's 11.5 w/mid-length system is a good balance of a barrel. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 1:10:44 AM EDT
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I have an 11.5 from BCM and a 10.5 from Aero. Both have been great and will reliably eat anything but Tula. Tula causes the occasional short stroke.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 11:47:17 AM EDT
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I have an 11.5 from BCM and a 10.5 from Aero. Both have been great and will reliably eat anything but Tula. Tula causes the occasional short stroke. Thanks. I'm not to concerned about short stroking. I'm really trying to avoid stuck cases. That takes a lot longer to clear. Edit. Of course I don't want a short stroke, you get what I'm saying. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 1:14:13 PM EDT
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Thanks. I'm not to concerned about short stroking. I'm really trying to avoid stuck cases. That takes a lot longer to clear. Edit. Of course I don't want a short stroke, you get what I'm saying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have an 11.5 from BCM and a 10.5 from Aero. Both have been great and will reliably eat anything but Tula. Tula causes the occasional short stroke. Thanks. I'm not to concerned about short stroking. I'm really trying to avoid stuck cases. That takes a lot longer to clear. Edit. Of course I don't want a short stroke, you get what I'm saying. I knew what you meant lol. There's only been a couple of times I've had stuck cases. One was switching to brass after shooting a lot of Tula and the other was due to my reloads not being sized correctly. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 1:36:08 PM EDT
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This is my understanding on the subject:
The steel cases expand at a lower speed than the brass ones, this results in slightly more time for carbon to build up in your chamber, after so much builds up, the case gets stuck. Based on my understanding, it won't matter what barrel you choose. The cases will likely stick at some point regardless. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 1:47:46 PM EDT
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This is my understanding on the subject: The steel cases expand at a lower speed than the brass ones, this results in slightly more time for carbon to build up in your chamber, after so much builds up, the case gets stuck. Based on my understanding, it won't matter what barrel you choose. The cases will likely stick at some point regardless. Not just that but the steel cases don't expand as much as brass which leaves room for carbon to build up. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 5:43:43 PM EDT
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That's about what I paid from Right to Bear, after shipping. I would post a link, but that web site is blocked at work. Somehow, my company hasn't flagged AR15.com as a "Firearms" web site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's about what I paid from Right to Bear, after shipping. I would post a link, but that web site is blocked at work. Somehow, my company hasn't flagged AR15.com as a "Firearms" web site. Damn commies!! Staples and Walmart also block us 
OP, Ballistic Advantage and Faxon make outstanding barrels. Faxon gets the one up for customer service. You really cant go wrong with either. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 5:53:14 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if Faxon guarantees that their barrels will shoot steel case ammo without any problems. However, I can tell you from my own personal experience that I've been shooting mostly steel through my FAXON 16" Pencil 416-R Stainless without any issues.
I normally use 4150 barrels for steel case ammo but we were out of stock at the time and I really wanted the lightweight pencil profile. Absolutely love the barrel and they've been flying out the door here at RIghtToBear.com |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 2:25:40 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if Faxon guarantees that their barrels will shoot steel case ammo without any problems. However, I can tell you from my own personal experience that I've been shooting mostly steel through my FAXON 16" Pencil 416-R Stainless without any issues. I normally use 4150 barrels for steel case ammo but we were out of stock at the time and I really wanted the lightweight pencil profile. Absolutely love the barrel and they've been flying out the door here at RIghtToBear.com Thanks! I'll order one. They have the non-pencil ones on sale right now. I didn't see that specific one on your site. The barrel is going to go mostly auto. Edit. I briefly read about the 4150 barrels (mainly CM not qpq). Consensus agrees with your statement of using that barrel material with steel cased ammo, thanks for the tip. 
Any other tips for shooting steel ammo 556? Post it here or please PM me. I'm always looking for tips and advice. |
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