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Posted: 9/7/2014 12:22:03 AM EDT
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If you mean LPK I'd go with DPMS because it's widely in stock and works fine.
If you mean just the trigger group itself, Rock River two stage trigger is slightly over budget, but it has the finest break in a sub-$200 trigger I've ever felt. It's really nice. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 12:24:30 AM EDT
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Or an ALG for like $45. And IMO the spikes lpk is far superior to most others and only $44 minus the fcg, from primary arms.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 12:41:11 AM EDT
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I am specifically looking just at a trigger group. I saw the alg act for $65, seems like a tuned factory trigger. Its on my list as an option.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:02:47 AM EDT
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I am specifically looking just at a trigger group. I saw the alg act for $65, seems like a tuned factory trigger. Its on my list as an option. Thanks Geiselle just came out with a 2 stage for 110 bucks |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:33:28 AM EDT
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I am specifically looking just at a trigger group. I saw the alg act for $65, seems like a tuned factory trigger. Its on my list as an option. Thanks Geiselle just came out with a 2 stage for 110 bucks You can't go wrong with a Geissele trigger. Have them in all 3 of my AR's. How does the new trigger compare to the SSA and SSA-E? |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:55:06 AM EDT
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If you are able to spend $29.99 more + shipping, you can get a Geissele 2-Stage (G2S) from Trading Place Pawn. Just enter the discount code 10off in the shopping cart before checking out. Also, they have the ALG ACT for $54.99, and the ALG QMS for $39.99.
They are an industry partner too. For my upcoming build, I picked up a Geissele SSA from there for $178 that shipped for free a couple months ago. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 8:21:00 AM EDT
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I am specifically looking just at a trigger group. I saw the alg act for $65, seems like a tuned factory trigger. Its on my list as an option. Thanks Geiselle just came out with a 2 stage for 110 bucks This x1000. The ALG ACT sucks compared to the G2S or any Geissele and this is coming from and ACT owner. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231294306392&alt=web I bought two of these from this lady for $100. Her husband had an ad here a couple of weeks ago but got locked due to not buying an Industry Partner. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 8:52:02 AM EDT
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I would say a Bill Springfield would be my pick.
Hand built and tuned. The complete trigger is like $119, but you can send him a mil-spec and the mod is about $50. http://www.triggerwork.net/ar15s.html |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 10:02:13 AM EDT
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I would say a Bill Springfield would be my pick. Hand built and tuned. The complete trigger is like $119, but you can send him a mil-spec and the mod is about $50. http://www.triggerwork.net/ar15s.html Springfield's are very poor quality. He has gone down hill since the good old days. I just bought a G2S Geissele that seems to work well. Stay away from Springfield. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 10:13:17 AM EDT
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Geiselle just came out with a 2 stage for 110 bucks The G2S has been around for a while, it retails for $165, but lots of places have had it on sale for way under that. An excellent trigger. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 10:16:38 AM EDT
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If you are able to spend $29.99 more + shipping, you can get a Geissele 2-Stage (G2S) from Trading Place Pawn. Just enter the discount code 10off in the shopping cart before checking out. Also, they have the ALG ACT for $54.99, and the ALG QMS for $39.99. They are an industry partner too. For my upcoming build, I picked up a Geissele SSA from there for $178 that shipped for free a couple months ago. Define your needs, i.e. single or two stage. Geissele has several excellent two stage triggers, some require adjusting, some drop in. They are worth the $$. I have the DMR in an 18" rifle and it is absolutely amazing. They have less expensive models that are highly regarded. I also have both ALG triggers in new builds and they too are excellent. They are single stage, and if that meets your requirements, I don't think there is a better value. I find the QMS to be very adequate and probably would use that in a budget build. Geissele On Triggers |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 10:35:27 AM EDT
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I suppose I'm a G fanboi now. I highly suggest a G2S as a budget trigger.
Didn't understand they following, I do now. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 10:41:02 AM EDT
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Need is for a defense build. Do not want a 3lb trigger or race gun setup. So a quality trigger with a 5-6lb pull and clean smooth break is what I am after. Two stage not needed.
I appreciate everyone helping. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:19:52 PM EDT
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ALG ACT is the best mil-spec dressed up trigger. IMO.. I have one of these and a G2S and the G2S is worth the difference in price.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 3:03:43 PM EDT
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Springfield's are very poor quality. He has gone down hill since the good old days. I just bought a G2S Geissele that seems to work well. Stay away from Springfield. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would say a Bill Springfield would be my pick. Hand built and tuned. The complete trigger is like $119, but you can send him a mil-spec and the mod is about $50. http://www.triggerwork.net/ar15s.html Springfield's are very poor quality. He has gone down hill since the good old days. I just bought a G2S Geissele that seems to work well. Stay away from Springfield. Good to know... The one I have used was definitely not new. Will have to try the Geissele that is highly recommended then. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:45:41 PM EDT
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Best sub $100.00 trigger is a RRA 2-Stage trigger, Best $200.00 trigger is the SSA-E, My favorite trigger is the Timney Gold drop in single stage unit, it's awesome.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:49:49 PM EDT
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Need is for a defense build. Do not want a 3lb trigger or race gun setup. So a quality trigger with a 5-6lb pull and clean smooth break is what I am after. Two stage not needed. I appreciate everyone helping. If that's what your after, then there's no need for anything other than the ALG ACT, it's like $60.00 |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 6:27:54 PM EDT
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I am specifically looking just at a trigger group. I saw the alg act for $65, seems like a tuned factory trigger. Its on my list as an option. Thanks Geiselle just came out with a 2 stage for 110 bucks Which one, do not see it. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 8:17:21 PM EDT
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I am specifically looking just at a trigger group. I saw the alg act for $65, seems like a tuned factory trigger. Its on my list as an option. Thanks Geiselle just came out with a 2 stage for 110 bucks Which one, do not see it. It's their budget trigger, for what you described you needed the trigger to be, the ALG ACT is the best option, not the best overall trigger but best answer for your solution. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 8:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would say a Bill Springfield would be my pick. Hand built and tuned. The complete trigger is like $119, but you can send him a mil-spec and the mod is about $50. http://www.triggerwork.net/ar15s.html |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 11:50:24 PM EDT
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ALG ACT looks like a great choice for my build.. I found them for $55 bucks in the for sale section. Thanks all.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 12:28:17 AM EDT
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WOW JUST WOW!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would say a Bill Springfield would be my pick. Hand built and tuned. The complete trigger is like $119, but you can send him a mil-spec and the mod is about $50. http://www.triggerwork.net/ar15s.html I hope that WOW is the WOW I'm thinking....  I've heard nothing but horror stories from his customers.There was a thread where someone sent in a New LPK trigger and sent it to Springfield for his lightest pull Premum trigger job. When he got it back the member put it in a lower for a torture test of sorts, he had a few hundred rounds total of 5-6 brands of ammo in labled mags. It worked pretty good for the first 50 rounds of M193 55grn, then during rapid firing it started doubling and tripling, he slowed down the firing and it seemed better, then he tried steel cased Tula ammo and it would FTF everytime, primers were too hard for the weak springs he installed. So back to doing mag dumps with brass cased ammo, at about the 200 rounds point it started doubling and tripling again.... then he pulls he trigger and nothing happens except a CLICK, clears weapon and opens the takedown pin to inspect the FCG. The friggin trigger had just cracked almost completely through, that's what Springfield's premium milspec trigger job got that member.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 1:19:52 AM EDT
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ALG ACT looks like a great choice for my build.. I found them for $55 bucks in the for sale section. Thanks all. With the specs that you put on a new trigger purchase, That is the best choice. Just my opinion. 
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Posted: 9/8/2014 1:20:14 AM EDT
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I hope that WOW is the WOW I'm thinking.... I've heard nothing but horror stories from his customers.There was a thread where someone sent in a New LPK trigger and sent it to Springfield for his lightest pull Premum trigger job. When he got it back the member put it in a lower for a torture test of sorts, he had a few hundred rounds total of 5-6 brands of ammo in labled mags. It worked pretty good for the first 50 rounds of M193 55grn, then during rapid firing it started doubling and tripling, he slowed down the firing and it seemed better, then he tried steel cased Tula ammo and it would FTF everytime, primers were too hard for the weak springs he installed. So back to doing mag dumps with brass cased ammo, at about the 200 rounds point it started doubling and tripling again.... then he pulls he trigger and nothing happens except a CLICK, clears weapon and opens the takedown pin to inspect the FCG. The friggin trigger had just cracked almost completely through, that's what Springfield's premium milspec trigger job got that member.It was, we've had a discussion and I'm up to speed... My experience was an anomaly to what others have found typical. Cheers. 
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Posted: 9/8/2014 2:25:25 AM EDT
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Any rifle of mine that doesn't have an SSA or SSA-E has a ALG ACT in it. They are my bare minimum.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 9:39:05 AM EDT
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Under a benjamin, you're best off with an ALG ACT and JP springs.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 2:06:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope that WOW is the WOW I'm thinking.... I've heard nothing but horror stories from his customers.There was a thread where someone sent in a New LPK trigger and sent it to Springfield for his lightest pull Premum trigger job. When he got it back the member put it in a lower for a torture test of sorts, he had a few hundred rounds total of 5-6 brands of ammo in labled mags. It worked pretty good for the first 50 rounds of M193 55grn, then during rapid firing it started doubling and tripling, he slowed down the firing and it seemed better, then he tried steel cased Tula ammo and it would FTF everytime, primers were too hard for the weak springs he installed. So back to doing mag dumps with brass cased ammo, at about the 200 rounds point it started doubling and tripling again.... then he pulls he trigger and nothing happens except a CLICK, clears weapon and opens the takedown pin to inspect the FCG. The friggin trigger had just cracked almost completely through, that's what Springfield's premium milspec trigger job got that member.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would say a Bill Springfield would be my pick. Hand built and tuned. The complete trigger is like $119, but you can send him a mil-spec and the mod is about $50. http://www.triggerwork.net/ar15s.html I hope that WOW is the WOW I'm thinking.... I've heard nothing but horror stories from his customers.There was a thread where someone sent in a New LPK trigger and sent it to Springfield for his lightest pull Premum trigger job. When he got it back the member put it in a lower for a torture test of sorts, he had a few hundred rounds total of 5-6 brands of ammo in labled mags. It worked pretty good for the first 50 rounds of M193 55grn, then during rapid firing it started doubling and tripling, he slowed down the firing and it seemed better, then he tried steel cased Tula ammo and it would FTF everytime, primers were too hard for the weak springs he installed. So back to doing mag dumps with brass cased ammo, at about the 200 rounds point it started doubling and tripling again.... then he pulls he trigger and nothing happens except a CLICK, clears weapon and opens the takedown pin to inspect the FCG. The friggin trigger had just cracked almost completely through, that's what Springfield's premium milspec trigger job got that member. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 2:15:26 PM EDT
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Which one, do not see it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am specifically looking just at a trigger group. I saw the alg act for $65, seems like a tuned factory trigger. Its on my list as an option. Thanks Geiselle just came out with a 2 stage for 110 bucks Which one, do not see it. Out of stock but Aim had them for $109. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=953&name=Geissele+triggers |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 9:21:10 PM EDT
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Thanks. For $10 more that would be a great choice.
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Posted: 9/9/2014 8:24:42 AM EDT
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My first AR trigger was a milspec unit included in a DPMS lower parts kit. I wasn't happy with the grittiness and excessive pull weight, so I polished the engagement surfaces, lubed them with moly grease and installed JP yellow springs. Total investment was $11 for the springs and about half an hour of my labor. The end result was a smooth GI-type stroke with total letoff weight of 4.5 lbs. I've since graduated to expensive Geissele and Hiperfire triggers, but my son is still using the original modified GI unit with no complaints. - CW
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Posted: 9/9/2014 9:42:06 AM EDT
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I build my rifles on tight budgets. I use ALG ACT triggers with JP springs. Have a few with the reduced power yellows and others with the reliability (red). They all work well for a "budget" trigger and give a crisp clean break and keep a mil-spec feel.
For my specific 6.5 grendel hunting rig, I use a RRA national 2-stage match trigger bought on EE. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 9:56:12 PM EDT
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So by using the jp springs that just further lightens the pull correct?
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Posted: 9/9/2014 10:51:41 PM EDT
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So by using the jp springs that just further lightens the pull correct? Yes, but it's questionable whether they'll reliably shoot military-primer ammo. I haven't had a problem, nor have other friends, but some folks here report the occasional failure to ignite. YMMV. I don't have the yellow springs in rifles that need to work every time, just plinkin toys. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 10:59:12 PM EDT
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So you use the red springs then? Thanks!
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Posted: 9/9/2014 11:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you mean LPK I'd go with DPMS because it's widely in stock and works fine. If you mean just the trigger group itself, Rock River two stage trigger is slightly over budget, but it has the finest break in a sub-$200 trigger I've ever felt. It's really nice. You can get the RRA's on ebay for $80. For $136 or so you can find the Geisselle G2S, which is a better trigger (and definitely a contender for best under $200).
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Posted: 9/9/2014 11:45:32 PM EDT
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RRA Two Stage Match Trigger Kit on sale at RRA right now for $108. Would that be better than the ALG ACT?
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Posted: 9/9/2014 11:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RRA Two Stage Match Trigger Kit on sale at RRA right now for $108. Would that be better than the ALG ACT? |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 12:19:55 AM EDT
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Thanks!
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:46:56 PM EDT
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RRA 2 stage is a good trigger and at $80 a good deal. I would go that route for a sub-$100 trigger/hammer.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:49:15 PM EDT
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The RRA is a great trigger under $200, and is the best trigger I've felt under $100, but it's not the best sub-$200 trigger. You can get the RRA's on ebay for $80. For $136 or so you can find the Geisselle G2S, which is a better trigger (and definitely a contender for best under $200). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you mean LPK I'd go with DPMS because it's widely in stock and works fine. If you mean just the trigger group itself, Rock River two stage trigger is slightly over budget, but it has the finest break in a sub-$200 trigger I've ever felt. It's really nice. You can get the RRA's on ebay for $80. For $136 or so you can find the Geisselle G2S, which is a better trigger (and definitely a contender for best under $200). Not really a contender when G2S-E and SSA-E can be had under 200 easily. |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:14:27 PM EDT
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A RRA 2 Stage for 80 Bucks Shipped?!?!?! This Is Why I Need To Reformat The Hard Drive And Get A Lobotomy.. You Guys Are Killing My Credit Card
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:17:19 PM EDT
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If you mean LPK I'd go with DPMS because it's widely in stock and works fine. If you mean just the trigger group itself, Rock River two stage trigger is slightly over budget, but it has the finest break in a sub-$200 trigger I've ever felt. It's really nice. +1 on RRA trigger |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 12:38:04 PM EDT
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Need is for a defense build. Do not want a 3lb trigger or race gun setup. So a quality trigger with a 5-6lb pull and clean smooth break is what I am after. Two stage not needed. I appreciate everyone helping. My opinion, Spike's Battle Trigger would work for you then. Not sure if you'd get 5-6lb with standard springs though. Using my 'analog' el cheapo trigger pull scale I get a 7lb trigger pull and that's with the mil-spec springs that came with the trigger group. Maybe one of the various reduced power spring(s) out there would lower it under 7. But it is a clean break and I have no real complaints. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 5:51:00 PM EDT
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IMO yes, RRA's have had the occasional failure, but normally that just results in a poor single stage that still shoots and RRA will get it fixed. Here they are for $80 on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rock-River-Arms-National-Match-2-Stage-Trigger-/191089421953?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7dd12e81 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RRA Two Stage Match Trigger Kit on sale at RRA right now for $108. Would that be better than the ALG ACT? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rock-River-Arms-National-Match-2-Stage-Trigger-/191089421953?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7dd12e81 $89.95 today :( |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:39:49 PM EDT
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Under a benjamin, you're best off with an ALG ACT and JP springs. +1 |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 6:18:46 AM EDT
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Is the Geissele G2S a MIM unit? That would mean it shouldn't be stoned, correct?
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Posted: 9/18/2014 8:39:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the Geissele G2S a MIM unit? That would mean it shouldn't be stoned, correct? (I understand it may not need any refinement.) |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 8:40:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The G2S is the same as the SSA, but it is not laser engraved and is only batch tested versus 100% inspection... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is the Geissele G2S a MIM unit? That would mean it shouldn't be stoned, correct? (I understand it may not need any refinement.) |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 8:43:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They also removed the Jhook and cut and went for a simpler spring clip retention for the hammer. Saves some machine time. Great trigger for the money. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the Geissele G2S a MIM unit? That would mean it shouldn't be stoned, correct? (I understand it may not need any refinement.)  |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:12:23 PM EDT
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Yes, but it's questionable whether they'll reliably shoot military-primer ammo. I haven't had a problem, nor have other friends, but some folks here report the occasional failure to ignite. YMMV. I don't have the yellow springs in rifles that need to work every time, just plinkin toys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So by using the jp springs that just further lightens the pull correct? Yes, but it's questionable whether they'll reliably shoot military-primer ammo. I haven't had a problem, nor have other friends, but some folks here report the occasional failure to ignite. YMMV. I don't have the yellow springs in rifles that need to work every time, just plinkin toys. JP's tend to have the Speed hammer, which is essentially cutting the hook off the hammer to speed it up when used with the yellow springs there by providing a little better smack to the firing pin/primer. |
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