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Link Posted: 12/18/2012 9:17:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
Will a Glock 21 mag slightly modified to catch fit the grease gun mag block?  I don't currently own a glock 21 to see if the mag will fit the AR mag well.

Too wide for a standard AR magwell........

Link Posted: 12/19/2012 8:34:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SpecOps-13] [#2]
Originally Posted By Mad-Machinist:
Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
Will a Glock 21 mag slightly modified to catch fit the grease gun mag block?  I don't currently own a glock 21 to see if the mag will fit the AR mag well.

Too wide for a standard AR magwell........



Ron Williams modified a LineWolf 9mm lower for me to accept a Glock 30, 21, 21 with Kriss Extension for 30 rounds.
The Grease Gun feeds with the magazine at a straight up angle. Even if you get the Glock Mags to fit, the feed angle is wrong.

Link Posted: 12/20/2012 10:04:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jasonusvi] [#3]
Originally Posted By SpecOps-13:
Originally Posted By Mad-Machinist:
Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
Will a Glock 21 mag slightly modified to catch fit the grease gun mag block?  I don't currently own a glock 21 to see if the mag will fit the AR mag well.

Too wide for a standard AR magwell........



Ron Williams modified a LineWolf 9mm lower for me to accept a Glock 30, 21, 21 with Kriss Extension for 30 rounds.
The Grease Gun feeds with the magazine at a straight up angle. Even if you get the Glock Mags to fit, the feed angle is wrong.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd205/specops-13/GlockDI143.jpg


Cool.  The extended glock mags reliable?
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 6:02:46 AM EDT
[#4]
Question.  Do the grease gun mags have to be modified to be used in the bazooka bros lower?
Link Posted: 12/21/2012 10:39:03 AM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By Camarofreak1969:
Question.  Do the grease gun mags have to be modified to be used in the bazooka bros lower?


They need a small 1/4" cut in the back edge. Bazoka uses the std AR15s mag catch.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 8:35:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By jdubya87:
tag for ddles glock 21 mag lower updates.


DDLES Glock 21 lowers are officially a GO!

Jon Beaudry of DDLES launched their Glock Large Frames on their website today!

You can use DDLES for a .45 conversion now.

What is the story on these?  Are these lowers that use a Glock magazine in 45ACP?  I plan on ordering a RMW upper in 45ACP, but am hung up on WHICH lower to order.  HELP, guys...I need informative info on what's out there.  Thanks, guys...
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:49:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CenterMass0] [#7]
Originally Posted By DeSoto:
Originally Posted By jdubya87:
tag for ddles glock 21 mag lower updates.


DDLES Glock 21 lowers are officially a GO!

Jon Beaudry of DDLES launched their Glock Large Frames on their website today!

You can use DDLES for a .45 conversion now.

What is the story on these?  Are these lowers that use a Glock magazine in 45ACP?  I plan on ordering a RMW upper in 45ACP, but am hung up on WHICH lower to order.  HELP, guys...I need informative info on what's out there.  Thanks, guys...


Good luck getting one of these.  Placed an order in September and was constantly told it was "shipping next week".  After three months of lies, I finally cancelled my order and ordered the mag block and mags from Ron Williams.  At least I know I can count on him.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 3:37:17 AM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Originally Posted By DeSoto:
Originally Posted By jdubya87:
tag for ddles glock 21 mag lower updates.


DDLES Glock 21 lowers are officially a GO!

Jon Beaudry of DDLES launched their Glock Large Frames on their website today!

You can use DDLES for a .45 conversion now.

What is the story on these?  Are these lowers that use a Glock magazine in 45ACP?  I plan on ordering a RMW upper in 45ACP, but am hung up on WHICH lower to order.  HELP, guys...I need informative info on what's out there.  Thanks, guys...


Good luck getting one of these.  Placed an order in September and was constantly told it was "shipping next week".  After three months of lies, I finally cancelled my order and ordered the mag block and mags from Ron Williams.  At least I know I can count on him.


Not to get off topic but what takes so long over at DDLES??? I ordered an IN STOCK lower on DEC 14th and havent heard a word yet.  My card was charged though.  If its in stock shouldnt all you have to do it put it in a box and in the mail???
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 8:05:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DeSoto] [#9]
Well in leu of all that at DDLES, I'm wondering if Ron Williams could do something with a lower that would allow one of the Glock large frame mags to be fit...safely... or is that DDLES lower a dedicated Glock large frame mag casting?
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 11:34:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Originally Posted By DeSoto:
Well in leu of all that at DDLES, I'm wondering if Ron Williams could do something with a lower that would allow one of the Glock large frame mags to be fit...safely... or is that DDLES lower a dedicated Glock large frame mag casting?


It's dedicated.  They make a colt SMG mag lower and now a small and large frame glock mag lower
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 11:37:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Camarofreak1969] [#11]
OK so I'm about to order my DDLES large frame glock mag lower.  Where can I order a plain 45acp barrel from. Just regular blow back 16" barrel. A stainless one wouldn't be to bad either but not gonna be picky.  Also what thread are they as I'm gonna have to find a brake for it and or have it cut down and re-threaded.

Also do standard A2 front sights fit the barrels?  Think I may do this a middy A2 iron sight build
Link Posted: 12/30/2012 1:13:28 AM EDT
[#12]
You might have to get in line at McGowen. If you find any elsewhere...
Link Posted: 12/30/2012 4:39:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Does anyone know if there other polymer lowers besides CAV that can accept .45 GG mags with the Hahn adaptor?  Just saw these available (yes, lowers in stock!) and wondering if they would work with my RMW upper and the Hahn block.  Once I got my RMW upper back, I decided I needed a lower with a SOPMOD stock (the ugly CAV OD lower I had just does not do it justice  - like wagon wheels on a Ferrari )
Link Posted: 1/5/2013 10:18:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AR45fan] [#14]
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Link Posted: 1/6/2013 6:42:16 PM EDT
[#15]
A few days ago I ordered a BAZ45 lower, and now im looking for an upper. Does any one know if RMWXtreme sells barrel, bolt, gas tube and gas blocks or do you need to buy a complete upper
Or I have a 8000 series super bolt thats .473 and a matching barrel extention ( was for a wildcat )  if i could send them to some one to have a DI made?

Thank you,
KLeptoLee
Link Posted: 1/6/2013 7:14:34 PM EDT
[#16]
A few days ago I ordered a BAZ45 lower, and now im looking for an upper. Does any one know if RMWXtreme sells barrel, bolt, gas tube and gas blocks or do you need to buy a complete upper
Or I have a 8000 series super bolt thats .473 and a matching barrel extention ( was for a wildcat )  if i could send them to some one to have a DI made?

Thank you,
KLeptoLee[/quote]

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh34/KLeptoLee/DSCN0237_zps5f885035.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh34/KLeptoLee/DSCN0235_zpsd11c0ea0.jpg

8000 series super bolt and extention to match
Link Posted: 1/6/2013 7:31:14 PM EDT
[#17]
Bolt will have to be opened just a little.......473 will work...but can cause malfunctions with a lot of .45 ammo as the Sammi max on the base dimension is actually .480.....barrel extension should work no problem,,,it will have to be ramped.......but it isn't different enough from a standard extension that is should cause any issues.
Link Posted: 1/6/2013 7:37:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Does that bolt fit a standard AR-15/M16 bolt carrier......and is what is the barrel extension OD?
Link Posted: 1/6/2013 7:54:13 PM EDT
[#19]
Originally Posted By Mad-Machinist:
Does that bolt fit a standard AR-15/M16 bolt carrier......and is what is the barrel extension OD?


Yes the bolt fits a standard carrier and the extentsion OD is .996

Link Posted: 1/6/2013 7:58:54 PM EDT
[#20]
Then you should be good to go....
Link Posted: 1/16/2013 2:45:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By IULaw:
I have a Cavarms lower and am waiting for the Hahn magwell conversion and buffer.  Will the RMW upper work with this setup (unmodified GG mags) as well?


Sure will


I too have a Cav lower and the Hahn grease gun mag block.  If I understand this thread correctly, I need a very heavy buffer if I want to run a blowback upper like the Oly, but do I still need a heavy buffer for a RMW DI45 upper?

Link Posted: 1/16/2013 3:40:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mad-Machinist] [#22]
I don't know about the rmw......but on my DI's I run a no weight carbine buffer in both my CNC guns lowers and my Cav Arms......
Link Posted: 1/17/2013 10:58:18 AM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By GrandmasterB:
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By IULaw:
I have a Cavarms lower and am waiting for the Hahn magwell conversion and buffer.  Will the RMW upper work with this setup (unmodified GG mags) as well?


Sure will


I too have a Cav lower and the Hahn grease gun mag block.  If I understand this thread correctly, I need a very heavy buffer if I want to run a blowback upper like the Oly, but do I still need a heavy buffer for a RMW DI45 upper?



Stock buffer & spring. I do sugest running 3-5 rnds through it a time for the first 50rnds. This helps with breakin.
Link Posted: 1/17/2013 11:08:00 AM EDT
[#24]
Since this is the 45 ACP conversion guide I thought this would be a good place for this.
I had someone lodge a bullet in his brl & buldge it. I rebareled it for him & wonderd about the bad brl. I cut it down to remove any issues & was left with a 3.5" brl. Opened the port a little & put a wolf reduce power spring in there to be sure it would run. Sure enough it ran. Clocked it at a little over 760rpm. You wont see many of these around 3.5" DI45
I was running VVN320 & N330. Avg velocity was 730fps with a 230HB
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:08:20 PM EDT
[#25]
I'm building one in 45 Win Mag.

Which gas system should I use?
Pistol? Carbine?

This is a 16" barrel, so obviously carbine length is perfect.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:26:03 AM EDT
[#26]
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Since this is the 45 ACP conversion guide I thought this would be a good place for this.
I had someone lodge a bullet in his brl & buldge it. I rebareled it for him & wonderd about the bad brl. I cut it down to remove any issues & was left with a 3.5" brl. Opened the port a little & put a wolf reduce power spring in there to be sure it would run. Sure enough it ran. Clocked it at a little over 760rpm. You wont see many of these around 3.5" DI45
I was running VVN320 & N330. Avg velocity was 730fps with a 230HB


That was pretty cool.. I wonder how it would run and sound with a full sized (or over sized for that matter) suppressor attached to it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:26:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chevcamo] [#27]
Double tap.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 11:10:49 AM EDT
[#28]
How makes this bolt and extension and who sells them. Thanks, TomZ
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 11:25:03 AM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By Blindeye:
I'm building one in 45 Win Mag.

Which gas system should I use?
Pistol? Carbine?

This is a 16" barrel, so obviously carbine length is perfect.

Thanks!


What are you running for ammo? The ones I have built for reloaders have carbine. Some of the factory(do they still make it?) ammo I have been provided with I had to run pistol.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 11:43:43 AM EDT
[#30]
Originally Posted By chevcamo:
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Since this is the 45 ACP conversion guide I thought this would be a good place for this.
I had someone lodge a bullet in his brl & buldge it. I rebareled it for him & wonderd about the bad brl. I cut it down to remove any issues & was left with a 3.5" brl. Opened the port a little & put a wolf reduce power spring in there to be sure it would run. Sure enough it ran. Clocked it at a little over 760rpm. You wont see many of these around 3.5" DI45
I was running VVN320 & N330. Avg velocity was 730fps with a 230HB


That was pretty cool.. I wonder how it would run and sound with a full sized (or over sized for that matter) suppressor attached to it.


Ran perfect. I would give up some sound level to keep the total 45acp setup to a 8-9" upper size like this
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:35:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By chevcamo:
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Since this is the 45 ACP conversion guide I thought this would be a good place for this.
I had someone lodge a bullet in his brl & buldge it. I rebareled it for him & wonderd about the bad brl. I cut it down to remove any issues & was left with a 3.5" brl. Opened the port a little & put a wolf reduce power spring in there to be sure it would run. Sure enough it ran. Clocked it at a little over 760rpm. You wont see many of these around 3.5" DI45
I was running VVN320 & N330. Avg velocity was 730fps with a 230HB


That was pretty cool.. I wonder how it would run and sound with a full sized (or over sized for that matter) suppressor attached to it.


Ran perfect. I would give up some sound level to keep the total 45acp setup to a 8-9" upper size like this
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/ron458/22LR.jpg


OH that's nice. I officially want one. Dang black rifle disease is keeping me broke lol. But not as broke as Obama is making me with taking more of my check .
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 3:33:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Has anyone built a piston driven AR45 upper? I would ideally like a 7.5" pistol without a buffer tube. Or are there physical characteristics that would prevent this from functioning properly?
Link Posted: 1/22/2013 8:51:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Ron,

I reload this round. There is some factory ammo out there, but at ridiculous prices.

With this round you can load at 100% case capacity with medium powders, and
of course at 25% case density with Red Dot or the like.

I can reload this cartridge to suit the rifle, but reliability is number 1.
Also, I don't currently have a pistol in this caliber, and don't plan on getting one.

I can reload to rifle pressures only without concern of my accidentally using it in
as pistol.
Link Posted: 1/23/2013 12:59:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Originally Posted By theEdge:
Has anyone built a piston driven AR45 upper? I would ideally like a 7.5" pistol without a buffer tube. Or are there physical characteristics that would prevent this from functioning properly?


There is no piston that will work with the 45acp. very short gas system & very little pressure.

Originally Posted By Blindeye:
Ron,

I reload this round. There is some factory ammo out there, but at ridiculous prices.

With this round you can load at 100% case capacity with medium powders, and
of course at 25% case density with Red Dot or the like.

I can reload this cartridge to suit the rifle, but reliability is number 1.
Also, I don't currently have a pistol in this caliber, and don't plan on getting one.

I can reload to rifle pressures only without concern of my accidentally using it in
as pistol.


For my base loads(non supressed) I run 6-6.5g unique with a 230g montana gold/zero bullet.
For supressed I run 6g VV N330 with same bullets. This load also works great without a can.
Link Posted: 1/23/2013 5:17:24 PM EDT
[#35]
Ron,

Carbine length gas system for the 45 Win Mag?

Thanks,
G.
Link Posted: 1/23/2013 8:08:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Who makes the lower in the photo that takes Grease gun mags, getting ready to pay for a Bazooka bros lower and this one looks good. Thanks
Link Posted: 1/23/2013 8:13:21 PM EDT
[#37]
CNC Guns makes the forward position magwell Grease Gun mag lower.....requires no mods to the mag...comes with a propriatery mag catch
They are exceptionally well machined from solid billet and run VERY well.......I have several and really enjoy them.
Link Posted: 2/9/2013 5:18:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Bump to first page.

WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN TACKED YET?
Link Posted: 2/9/2013 6:45:37 PM EDT
[#39]
It is tacked. It is at the top of the forum page under Important Pistol Caliber Threads.
Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:05:23 PM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By TANGOCHASER:
It is tacked. It is at the top of the forum page under Important Pistol Caliber Threads.


Oh. Didn't know that. Sorry.
Link Posted: 2/10/2013 6:36:11 PM EDT
[#41]
has anyone seen a A2 carbine with mid length  float tube and the 11 inch barrel (does it fit?)
Link Posted: 2/11/2013 2:06:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ronaldmwilliams] [#42]
Originally Posted By Blindeye:
Ron,

Carbine length gas system for the 45 Win Mag?

Thanks,
G.


Did I miss this? Yes on the carbine gas normally. Pistol if running lighter loads that also work in pistols.
Link Posted: 2/11/2013 2:10:57 PM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By butcher_block:
has anyone seen a A2 carbine with mid length  float tube and the 11 inch barrel (does it fit?)


Not sure what you mean. Mid is a 9" tube. Are you thinking with a gas block?
Link Posted: 2/11/2013 2:19:33 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By TZAZ:
Who makes the lower in the photo that takes Grease gun mags, getting ready to pay for a Bazooka bros lower and this one looks good. Thanks


Must be the CNC lower. The baz lower just needs the mag catch cut. The reason i prefer the Baz is I can set the mag a little higher in the lower for flawless feeding. I have put quite a few CNC lower builds together for customers & the feedlips will need to be opened up some so they feed right. With the mag up front in the magwell the rounds will need to release a little early for proper function.

I also make block & GG mags that fit in std lowers if you have one SBRd & want to run a shorter brl.
Link Posted: 2/11/2013 6:42:23 PM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By TZAZ:
Who makes the lower in the photo that takes Grease gun mags, getting ready to pay for a Bazooka bros lower and this one looks good. Thanks


Must be the CNC lower. The baz lower just needs the mag catch cut. The reason i prefer the Baz is I can set the mag a little higher in the lower for flawless feeding. I have put quite a few CNC lower builds together for customers & the feedlips will need to be opened up some so they feed right. With the mag up front in the magwell the rounds will need to release a little early for proper function.

Well, just so you know, neither of my CNC lowers has any problem feeding with unmodified grease gun mags.  Both run 100% with your uppers.
Link Posted: 2/11/2013 8:11:16 PM EDT
[#46]
+1 on the lack of need for mod to the mags with CNC lowers.It is the platform I primarily build on and with the feed ramp I've developed it is pretty much plug and play.
Link Posted: 2/12/2013 9:23:40 AM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By butcher_block:
has anyone seen a A2 carbine with mid length  float tube and the 11 inch barrel (does it fit?)


Not sure what you mean. Mid is a 9" tube. Are you thinking with a gas block?


yep 9 inch but with a A2 front sight tower (didnt know if the pinned on flash hider woudl be in the way )
looking at the gas block front sight it looks liek 2 inch of barrel length so im not sure that setup woudl fit on one of your 11.5 + long flash hider setups
i need to soon get back with you on the PM BTW
Link Posted: 2/12/2013 12:06:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ronaldmwilliams] [#48]
Originally Posted By BillC3:
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By TZAZ:
Who makes the lower in the photo that takes Grease gun mags, getting ready to pay for a Bazooka bros lower and this one looks good. Thanks


Must be the CNC lower. The baz lower just needs the mag catch cut. The reason i prefer the Baz is I can set the mag a little higher in the lower for flawless feeding. I have put quite a few CNC lower builds together for customers & the feedlips will need to be opened up some so they feed right. With the mag up front in the magwell the rounds will need to release a little early for proper function.

Well, just so you know, neither of my CNC lowers has any problem feeding with unmodified grease gun mags.  Both run 100% with your uppers.


Maybe it was just the Keep shooting mags that gave me fits
Link Posted: 2/12/2013 12:14:17 PM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By butcher_block:
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By butcher_block:
has anyone seen a A2 carbine with mid length  float tube and the 11 inch barrel (does it fit?)


Not sure what you mean. Mid is a 9" tube. Are you thinking with a gas block?


yep 9 inch but with a A2 front sight tower (didnt know if the pinned on flash hider woudl be in the way )
looking at the gas block front sight it looks liek 2 inch of barrel length so im not sure that setup woudl fit on one of your 11.5 + long flash hider setups
i need to soon get back with you on the PM BTW


Just tried & it does not fit.
Link Posted: 2/18/2013 2:57:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By BillC3:
Originally Posted By ronaldmwilliams:
Originally Posted By TZAZ:
Who makes the lower in the photo that takes Grease gun mags, getting ready to pay for a Bazooka bros lower and this one looks good. Thanks


Must be the CNC lower. The baz lower just needs the mag catch cut. The reason i prefer the Baz is I can set the mag a little higher in the lower for flawless feeding. I have put quite a few CNC lower builds together for customers & the feedlips will need to be opened up some so they feed right. With the mag up front in the magwell the rounds will need to release a little early for proper function.

Well, just so you know, neither of my CNC lowers has any problem feeding with unmodified grease gun mags.  Both run 100% with your uppers.


Maybe it was just the Keep shooting mags that gave me fits

That may be it -- all of mine are old mil-surp.
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