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Posted: 8/19/2016 11:32:51 PM EDT
I have a real nice original Colt VP stamped 1/14 barrel on my 601 build, I think after seeing this at the National Museum of the Air Force when I get some time Im gonna get my electropencil out and engrave a rack number on the cast fsb, what do you guys think?  
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Posted: 8/19/2016 11:35:39 PM EDT
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And yeah, if you ever get the chance, the museum is worth the time. I spent 2 full days there and if I wanted to read everything it might have taken up to another day. They have one of the helicopters that took part in the Son Toy Raid including a nice display about the raid and they have the C141 that brought the POW's home....among many other things. 
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Posted: 8/19/2016 11:53:58 PM EDT
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Period (of issue and usage) rack number or contemporary museum catalog /collection number?
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Posted: 8/19/2016 11:57:08 PM EDT
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Quoted:I have a real nice original Colt VP stamped 1/14 barrel on my 601 build, I think after seeing this at the National Museum of the Air Force when I get some time Im gonna get my electropencil out and engrave a rack number on the cast fsb, what do you guys think? Note they engraved the number on the front of the lower receiver as well. Other than that it looks like they kept a very well-preserved example for museum display. I've been to museums where they displayed an old beat-up 1911 or Colt 1903 and realized I had better-condition examples back home in my safe! |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 12:36:20 AM EDT
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Damn
I need to go back there. It's been about 17 years, I know it's a lot bigger now . |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 3:13:54 AM EDT
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Looks like you'll also need to hit the mag well too
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Posted: 8/20/2016 6:00:49 AM EDT
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....among many other things. Many, many other things. They don't just have examples of historic aircraft, they have many historical aircraft, like Robin Olds' F-4 and a B-52 that was shot up extensively in Linebacker I, and yet was repaired in time to fly missions during Linebacker II. Walking the memorial garden alone will take three hours, easy. And a very nice display about the three Air Force enlisted men to receive the MOH in Viet Nam, including Pitsenbarger. 
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Posted: 8/20/2016 8:02:37 AM EDT
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I am not a fan of rack numbers. They represent a weapon that, aaahhh,, ummm , well,,, sat in a rack (so to speak). Please do not deface any metal on your rifle. If you feel the "need" to do a rack #,I suggest you just paint it on the stock so in the future it can be removed if wanted. Just my 2 pennies.
ETA, hey Kid, did you happen to note what style mag release button that rifle had? Horizontal lined, or many circle?? We have a member that has a real 3 digit in the 7xx SN range, his has the lined button. Be very curious what the above rifle has. It would help in trying to determine when the change took place. Thanks for posting. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 8:22:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I am not a fan of rack numbers. They represent a weapon that, aaahhh,, ummm , well,,, sat in a rack (so to speak). Please do not deface any metal on your rifle. If you feel the "need" to do a rack #,I suggest you just paint it on the stock so in the future it can be removed if wanted. Just my 2 pennies. ETA, hey Kid, did you happen to note what style mag release button that rifle had? Horizontal lined, or many circle?? We have a member that has a real 3 digit in the 7xx SN range, his has the lined button. Be very curious what the above rifle has. It would help in trying to determine when the change took place. Thanks for posting. I was being quite facetious, there's no way I'm defacing a 601 barrel.
As for your next question, no. The way it's displayed makes it impossible to see the right side. The picture I got of the right side from the rear was the best I could do. 
I love that the museum had the display at all, but I also hate when museums put guns up against a wall. The public will only ever see one side in the ensuing decades and all learning about the gun stops there. It only ever fills half of what the mission of museums should be: preserve and educate. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 10:15:48 AM EDT
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Nice thank you
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Posted: 8/20/2016 11:02:03 AM EDT
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Just throw it down the driveway a few times to give it that "been there, done that" look.
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Posted: 8/20/2016 11:08:01 AM EDT
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it even has a waffle mag
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Posted: 8/20/2016 11:49:47 AM EDT
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it even has a waffle mag . I was impressed they got that detail right. |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 1:35:52 PM EDT
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This has always gone contrary to any TM I've read or used over the years,
Anything that will compromise the protective coating and permanently mark the metal like electro pencils, metal stamps, etc. to apply rack or admin numbers has always been against reg. However, stupid armorers have done it for decades. There is no historical significance in defacing your retro to make it more authentic as examples are the exception, not the norm. Wpns Man |
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Posted: 8/20/2016 1:55:10 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting the photos from the AF Museum. If the USAF contract/order went out in May of 1962 when do you think the rifles arrived in SE Asia? I would think the units serving in SE Asia would of had priority even over SAC bases in the US and Europe. My "Rifle AR-15 Caliber 5.56 mm (.223) AF Manual 50-12" is dated 30 August 1963. Per the manual many of the accessories were not available by normal distribution channels and other accessories related to the 5.56/.223 ammo the manual noted was in the design process leading me to believe it was probably 1964 before many of those items arrived in SE Asia.
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