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Posted: 7/21/2016 6:42:34 PM EDT
I bought this because everything is in great shape with almost no wear.  Paid 1600$.   Seems high to me but I wanted it and its it way better shape the others like it.  Does everything look right? Did I get taken? There is 0 cam pivot area wear, and the lugs are still sharpe. The stock is the metal one.  And the bore and the chamber look brand new.  








Link Posted: 7/21/2016 6:44:55 PM EDT
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How many position buffer tube?  Markings on the stock?  Looks like new.
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 6:49:06 PM EDT
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I walked into one about a year ago 639 plus tax . I bought on the spot , thats a nice one price on them goes up and down .
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 6:53:51 PM EDT
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If that's an orginal colt vinyl acetate stock that is worth $400-$500 alone. Looks like an SP1 colt. You did pretty good.

I saw one that was damn near mint condition sell awhile back for $2500
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 6:55:23 PM EDT
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The guy i bought it from has had the gun for 8 years that I know of and its been like this. Were would marking be on the stock?  
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 6:55:55 PM EDT
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You did ok

Nice find!
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 6:57:01 PM EDT
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If that's an orginal colt vinyl acetate stock that is worth $400-$500 alone. Looks like an SP1 colt. You did pretty good.

I saw one that was damn near mint condition sell awhile back for $2500
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The stock appears to be aluminium that has been dipped in a thick black paint.  Is there any markings?
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:00:27 PM EDT
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The stock appears to be aluminium that has been dipped in a thick black paint.  Is there any markings?
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If that's an orginal colt vinyl acetate stock that is worth $400-$500 alone. Looks like an SP1 colt. You did pretty good.

I saw one that was damn near mint condition sell awhile back for $2500

The stock appears to be aluminium that has been dipped in a thick black paint.  Is there any markings?

There is a number 1 at the adjustment lever
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:08:54 PM EDT
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If that's an orginal colt vinyl acetate stock that is worth $400-$500 alone. Looks like an SP1 colt. You did pretty good.

I saw one that was damn near mint condition sell awhile back for $2500

The stock appears to be aluminium that has been dipped in a thick black paint.  Is there any markings?


Sounds and looks like vinyl acetate to me, does it feel rubberish? The 1 is usually part of the N1 marking colt used. Looks like it's most likely as I thought and you have a very expensive stock. Take good care of it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:12:20 PM EDT
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Looks like a nice early one.  Congrats
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:16:11 PM EDT
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early for a colt carbine, late for a sp1 carbine with the 2xx serial range.  nice find for the price.  
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:25:54 PM EDT
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I just noticed, A1 upper, A1 grip and an original A1 dust cover. Don't part that thing out.
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:29:55 PM EDT
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Yea, probably going to put it in the safe Im putting together for my 5 year old son.  Just don't know much about the old stuff.  Wanted to make sure everything looked right.
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:32:15 PM EDT
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Yea, probably going to put it in the safe Im putting together for my 5 year old son.  Just don't know much about the old stuff.  Wanted to make sure everything looked right.
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I just noticed, A1 upper, A1 grip and an original A1 dust cover. Don't part that thing out.

Yea, probably going to put it in the safe Im putting together for my 5 year old son.  Just don't know much about the old stuff.  Wanted to make sure everything looked right.


It sure does. That's going to be a great gift for him, just don't give it to him too soon. I wouldn't want to scratch that thing.
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:34:27 PM EDT
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It sure does. That's going to be a great gift for him, just don't give it to him too soon. I wouldn't want to scratch that thing.
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I just noticed, A1 upper, A1 grip and an original A1 dust cover. Don't part that thing out.

Yea, probably going to put it in the safe Im putting together for my 5 year old son.  Just don't know much about the old stuff.  Wanted to make sure everything looked right.


It sure does. That's going to be a great gift for him, just don't give it to him too soon. I wouldn't want to scratch that thing.

Yea I got him a really nice collection payable on completion of college or military service.  
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:36:39 PM EDT
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Sounds and looks like vinyl acetate to me, does it feel rubberish? The 1 is usually part of the N1 marking colt used. Looks like it's most likely as I thought and you have a very expensive stock. Take good care of it.
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If that's an orginal colt vinyl acetate stock that is worth $400-$500 alone. Looks like an SP1 colt. You did pretty good.

I saw one that was damn near mint condition sell awhile back for $2500

The stock appears to be aluminium that has been dipped in a thick black paint.  Is there any markings?


Sounds and looks like vinyl acetate to me, does it feel rubberish? The 1 is usually part of the N1 marking colt used. Looks like it's most likely as I thought and you have a very expensive stock. Take good care of it.

It does feel rubbery like thick paint.  I can see the 1 well and looks like there might be N but its not well defined like the 1
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 7:42:50 PM EDT
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You did well OP.........you did well!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 8:06:15 PM EDT
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Nice score.  One locally with little to no wear at $2799.  $1600 sounds good,  $2799 a little high.  Didn't inquire if they still had original box and possibly accessories. NIB / condition always makes them worth more.  Yours looks grrrrrrrrreat from pics.
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 8:13:34 PM EDT
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It does feel rubbery like thick paint.  I can see the 1 well and looks like there might be N but its not well defined like the 1
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If that's an orginal colt vinyl acetate stock that is worth $400-$500 alone. Looks like an SP1 colt. You did pretty good.

I saw one that was damn near mint condition sell awhile back for $2500

The stock appears to be aluminium that has been dipped in a thick black paint.  Is there any markings?


Sounds and looks like vinyl acetate to me, does it feel rubberish? The 1 is usually part of the N1 marking colt used. Looks like it's most likely as I thought and you have a very expensive stock. Take good care of it.

It does feel rubbery like thick paint.  I can see the 1 well and looks like there might be N but its not well defined like the 1


Yup, as I said before its a $400-$500 stock.
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 1:07:02 AM EDT
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Looks to be original and in great condition.  It's getting hard to find the vinyl acetate stocks in that shape.  Most have scratches or chips missing.
Price is real good for these days.  SP1 prices have skyrocketed recently.

See the black splotch of paint next to the bolt release?  See any of that anywhere else--like on the locking ring that holds the buffer tube to the receiver?
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 1:37:14 AM EDT
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What does the paint mean? I saw splotches on an SP 1 carbine, exactly where u are stating , on the lock ring for the buffer tube. It was for sale at my buddy's shop, wondered what the discoloration meant.
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 8:02:49 AM EDT
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Very good find and at a decent price. I picked up my 1981 SP1 carbine (s/n: SP148XXX) a couple years ago. It is in excellent condition as well. Great shooter.

Link Posted: 7/22/2016 8:46:30 AM EDT
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What does the paint mean? I saw splotches on an SP 1 carbine, exactly where u are stating , on the lock ring for the buffer tube. It was for sale at my buddy's shop, wondered what the discoloration meant.
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The "splotches" are factory Colt touch up paint. When assembling at the factory, if the armorer scratched or chipped anything they would hit it with the touchup paint. The lock ring gets "staked" after assembly and that almost ALWAYS leaves a spot of bare metal, so it gets hit with the paint. Very often the "boss" for the bolt catch, where the spring (roll) pin goes in, will have the paint too.  I have an Mvp marked barrel, that has paint covering the marking on my unfired 1964 SP1 rifle. Another common place is on the 2 tapered pins that hold the FSB onto the barrel.
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 11:40:42 AM EDT
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I actually love the fact that Colt used that black paint to fix blemishes.

That means when I slip with the punch and scratch something up during assembly, I can just throw some black paint on it and my gun will be even MORE correct! .
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Thunderstick,

That's a beautiful, low mileage early carbine you got there!
Congratulations!
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 1:49:59 PM EDT
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The "splotches" are factory Colt touch up paint. When assembling at the factory, if the armorer scratched or chipped anything they would hit it with the touchup paint. The lock ring gets "staked" after assembly and that almost ALWAYS leaves a spot of bare metal, so it gets hit with the paint. Very often the "boss" for the bolt catch, where the spring (roll) pin goes in, will have the paint too.  I have an Mvp marked barrel, that has paint covering the marking on my unfired 1964 SP1 rifle. Another common place is on the 2 tapered pins that hold the FSB onto the barrel.
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What does the paint mean? I saw splotches on an SP 1 carbine, exactly where u are stating , on the lock ring for the buffer tube. It was for sale at my buddy's shop, wondered what the discoloration meant.

The "splotches" are factory Colt touch up paint. When assembling at the factory, if the armorer scratched or chipped anything they would hit it with the touchup paint. The lock ring gets "staked" after assembly and that almost ALWAYS leaves a spot of bare metal, so it gets hit with the paint. Very often the "boss" for the bolt catch, where the spring (roll) pin goes in, will have the paint too.  I have an Mvp marked barrel, that has paint covering the marking on my unfired 1964 SP1 rifle. Another common place is on the 2 tapered pins that hold the FSB onto the barrel.


This.
The common paint blotches are one piece of evidence indicating originality.  Not foolproof, of course, but a clue, if you know what you're looking at.
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The common paint blotches are one piece of evidence indicating originality.  Not foolproof, of course, but a clue, if you know what you're looking at.
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What does the paint mean? I saw splotches on an SP 1 carbine, exactly where u are stating , on the lock ring for the buffer tube. It was for sale at my buddy's shop, wondered what the discoloration meant.

The "splotches" are factory Colt touch up paint. When assembling at the factory, if the armorer scratched or chipped anything they would hit it with the touchup paint. The lock ring gets "staked" after assembly and that almost ALWAYS leaves a spot of bare metal, so it gets hit with the paint. Very often the "boss" for the bolt catch, where the spring (roll) pin goes in, will have the paint too.  I have an Mvp marked barrel, that has paint covering the marking on my unfired 1964 SP1 rifle. Another common place is on the 2 tapered pins that hold the FSB onto the barrel.


This.
The common paint blotches are one piece of evidence indicating originality.  Not foolproof, of course, but a clue, if you know what you're looking at.

WOW, i thought it was a scratch that an owner tried to hide.
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 7:29:31 PM EDT
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Looks to be original and in great condition.  It's getting hard to find the vinyl acetate stocks in that shape.  Most have scratches or chips missing.
Price is real good for these days.  SP1 prices have skyrocketed recently.

See the black splotch of paint next to the bolt release?  See any of that anywhere else--like on the locking ring that holds the buffer tube to the receiver?
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Your good, i didn't even notice the paint there.  




Link Posted: 7/22/2016 7:57:06 PM EDT
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WOW, i thought it was a scratch that an owner tried to hide.
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What does the paint mean? I saw splotches on an SP 1 carbine, exactly where u are stating , on the lock ring for the buffer tube. It was for sale at my buddy's shop, wondered what the discoloration meant.

The "splotches" are factory Colt touch up paint. When assembling at the factory, if the armorer scratched or chipped anything they would hit it with the touchup paint. The lock ring gets "staked" after assembly and that almost ALWAYS leaves a spot of bare metal, so it gets hit with the paint. Very often the "boss" for the bolt catch, where the spring (roll) pin goes in, will have the paint too.  I have an Mvp marked barrel, that has paint covering the marking on my unfired 1964 SP1 rifle. Another common place is on the 2 tapered pins that hold the FSB onto the barrel.


This.
The common paint blotches are one piece of evidence indicating originality.  Not foolproof, of course, but a clue, if you know what you're looking at.

WOW, i thought it was a scratch that an owner tried to hide.


Its a scratch the manufacturer tried to hide

Its a beautiful gun, rare to find them in that kind of shape these days. DO NOT PART IT OUT MAN!
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 10:29:24 PM EDT
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I just noticed, A1 upper, A1 grip and an original A1 dust cover. Don't part that thing out.
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meh, unless he wants an m4 barrel for that crappy tooth pick looking barrel, and another one for the stock and receiver extension.
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 10:38:24 PM EDT
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Nice find.
Definitely a keeper!
Link Posted: 7/23/2016 8:36:17 PM EDT
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It sure does. That's going to be a great gift for him, just don't give it to him too soon. I wouldn't want to scratch that thing.
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I just noticed, A1 upper, A1 grip and an original A1 dust cover. Don't part that thing out.


Yea, probably going to put it in the safe Im putting together for my 5 year old son.  Just don't know much about the old stuff.  Wanted to make sure everything looked right.




It sure does. That's going to be a great gift for him, just don't give it to him too soon. I wouldn't want to scratch that thing.
And by all means make him understand to never ever mess with it!



Wouldnt want to see it butchered into an M4, or whatever monstrosity comes after it!
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