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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:55:17 PM EDT
Received mine today. Looks good.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 10:00:51 PM EDT
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Received mine today.  I asked if they could leave the troy logo off.
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that would have been nice if they disclosed that.  it was a deal breaker for many folks.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 10:06:27 PM EDT
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These are really growing on me
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 10:08:04 PM EDT
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Wow I'm surprised they took their logo off.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 12:27:56 AM EDT
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Umm...they left off their logo...and their manufacturer information?

Link Posted: 6/29/2016 5:11:58 AM EDT
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Uh oh!
How'd that get out the door?
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 12:36:36 PM EDT
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Hmm.  Pictures gone, OP edited to remove mention of no logo...
Didn't mean to scare anyone off!  I'd like to know more about how/if that was actually a Troy lower and how it was transferred...did the ATF form read "Troy" or "Colt?"
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 3:15:26 PM EDT
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So does the standard Troy XM177e2 come with their Troy logo engraved or not?
I can't see OP's picture....

Did OP ask Troy to omit their logo or something?
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 3:33:40 PM EDT
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So does the standard Troy XM177e2 come with their Troy logo engraved or not?
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OP's pic had just the markings on the magwell.  no troy logo and no mfg info above the selector.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 4:00:54 PM EDT
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...I'd like to know more about how/if that was actually a Troy lower...
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It was a Troy lower; it had their unique and distinctive profiling around the pivot pin bosses.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 4:15:22 PM EDT
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OP's pic had just the markings on the magwell.  no troy logo and no mfg info above the selector.
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So does the standard Troy XM177e2 come with their Troy logo engraved or not?
I can't see OP's picture....

Did OP ask Troy to omit their logo or something?


OP's pic had just the markings on the magwell.  no troy logo and no mfg info above the selector.

Do you know if this is standard on their XM177E2 rifle to not show the Troy logo?
I would be interested if the rifles don't show the logo.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 6:12:47 PM EDT
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Do you know if this is standard on their XM177E2 rifle to not show the Troy logo?
I would be interested if the rifles don't show the logo.
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So does the standard Troy XM177e2 come with their Troy logo engraved or not?
I can't see OP's picture....

Did OP ask Troy to omit their logo or something?


OP's pic had just the markings on the magwell.  no troy logo and no mfg info above the selector.

Do you know if this is standard on their XM177E2 rifle to not show the Troy logo?
I would be interested if the rifles don't show the logo.


In his original post OP said he requested the logo be removed. Sounds like the Troy logo comes standard and to not have it is a special request.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 10:40:25 AM EDT
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Just for everyone like me who is curious about whether the Troy XM177E2 has the logo engraved on the lower....
The below is what the Troy technical team responded to my email:

"Thank you for your email. In regards to your question. The XM177 do not come with the Troy logo engraved on the lower receiver. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns."

This is a very good news for me since I do not like the Troy logo
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 11:11:47 AM EDT
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I didn't want to cause any problems but I found where they engraved the rifle.  Yes, I asked them to not engrave the weapon.  I shot it yesterday, trigger was a bit gritty but 100% function and was a hoot to shoot.



Link Posted: 6/30/2016 11:45:10 AM EDT
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I didn't want to cause any problems but I found where they engraved the rifle.  Yes, I asked them to not engrave the weapon.  I shot it yesterday, trigger was a bit gritty but 100% function and was a hoot to shoot.
http://hobbyhorse.com/guns/xm177_3.jpg
http://hobbyhorse.com/guns/xm177_2.jpg
http://hobbyhorse.com/guns/xm177_1.jpg
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cool, nice place to engrave it.  a lotta folks do their trust engraving there.  glad we didn't spook you off
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 2:32:39 PM EDT
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That's good to hear
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 2:43:33 PM EDT
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Wow that sure looks nice.
I am definitely getting one now.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 4:09:43 PM EDT
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That looks better than expected. Sounds like the 177 comes without the logo but the Son-Tay has it? I was on the fence about getting one or the other but that makes my decision much easier.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 4:31:29 PM EDT
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I think you have to request one without the logo.  The GAU5 might be available that way but I don't know for sure.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 4:55:57 PM EDT
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As I stated above, from the reply from Troy tech team, the XM177 won't have their Troy logo.


"Thank you for your email. In regards to your question. The XM177 do not come with the Troy logo engraved on the lower receiver. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns."

The laser engraving on the right side of the mag well is another story, and it is an extra option you don't have to do.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 5:11:55 PM EDT
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I know Troy and all , but I still would consider buying one if the price point was better.



Link Posted: 6/30/2016 5:23:03 PM EDT
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This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between the XM177E2 and the GAU-5/A/A? Also from the looks of it the later does in fact have the Troy logo engraved on the lower?

Definitely interested in picking one of these up, I'd wait for a colt but my guess is they are going to be 2x the price of these.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 5:26:12 PM EDT
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This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between the XM177E2 and the GAU-5/A/A? Also from the looks of it the later does in fact have the Troy logo engraved on the lower?

Definitely interested in picking one of these up, I'd wait for a colt but my guess is they are going to be 2x the price of these.
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The main thing is that the XM177E2 has a forward assist and GAU does not.
And on the Troy clones, the XM lacks the Troy logo, while the GAU has it on the receiver.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 6:28:59 PM EDT
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The main thing is that the XM177E2 has a forward assist and GAU does not.
And on the Troy clones, the XM lacks the Troy logo, while the GAU has it on the receiver.
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This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between the XM177E2 and the GAU-5/A/A? Also from the looks of it the later does in fact have the Troy logo engraved on the lower?

Definitely interested in picking one of these up, I'd wait for a colt but my guess is they are going to be 2x the price of these.

The main thing is that the XM177E2 has a forward assist and GAU does not.
And on the Troy clones, the XM lacks the Troy logo, while the GAU has it on the receiver.


Gotcha thanks, tough choice now I'd rather not have either haha.
Link Posted: 6/30/2016 10:11:52 PM EDT
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Gotcha thanks, tough choice now I'd rather not have either haha.
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This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between the XM177E2 and the GAU-5/A/A? Also from the looks of it the later does in fact have the Troy logo engraved on the lower?

Definitely interested in picking one of these up, I'd wait for a colt but my guess is they are going to be 2x the price of these.

The main thing is that the XM177E2 has a forward assist and GAU does not.
And on the Troy clones, the XM lacks the Troy logo, while the GAU has it on the receiver.


Gotcha thanks, tough choice now I'd rather not have either haha.

I'm the opposite, it's an easy decision for me.
I like the FA and I don't like the Troy logo... XM177E2 for me
Link Posted: 7/1/2016 4:58:32 PM EDT
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I received my XM177e2 yesterday. No Troy logo on left side. Its very nice and price is quite reasonable.
Link Posted: 7/1/2016 6:16:20 PM EDT
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I received my XM177e2 yesterday. No Troy logo on left side. Its very nice and price is quite reasonable.
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No pictures? C'mon man you know the rules
Link Posted: 7/1/2016 7:30:15 PM EDT
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Now first logo than none, well I already cancelled mine awhile ago. Will just wait for the Colt retro to come out. sure might be more dough.But the Pony will do it for me.

Troy for the price will be a good one to beat up and shoot the heck out of.The Colt will be loved and fondled and oiled. much like a good Woman....
Saw the guy who ordered and got one. It  looked good for the price.Glad they are happy with the Troy
Link Posted: 7/1/2016 8:26:21 PM EDT
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Now first logo than none, well I already cancelled mine awhile ago. Will just wait for the Colt retro to come out. sure might be more dough.But the Pony will do it for me.

Troy for the price will be a good one to beat up and shoot the heck out of.The Colt will be loved and fondled and oiled. much like a good Woman....
Saw the guy who ordered and got one. It  looked good for the price.Glad they are happy with the Troy
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I think the colt retros will be rare and pricey though. In this price range I at least feel like it could shoot it a little. I didn't like them before with the logo etc but i like them a lot more now!
Link Posted: 7/2/2016 4:30:11 AM EDT
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I think the colt retros will be rare and pricey though. In this price range I at least feel like it could shoot it a little. I didn't like them before with the logo etc but i like them a lot more now!
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Now first logo than none, well I already cancelled mine awhile ago. Will just wait for the Colt retro to come out. sure might be more dough.But the Pony will do it for me.

Troy for the price will be a good one to beat up and shoot the heck out of.The Colt will be loved and fondled and oiled. much like a good Woman....
Saw the guy who ordered and got one. It  looked good for the price.Glad they are happy with the Troy


I think the colt retros will be rare and pricey though. In this price range I at least feel like it could shoot it a little. I didn't like them before with the logo etc but i like them a lot more now!

With the Colt XM177E2 being $2500-$3000 I really don't see myself shooting it at all if I decide to get it.
The Troy XM177E2 looks good enough for me and it is reasonably priced. It will be my designated retro AR shooter gun for sure.
Link Posted: 7/2/2016 11:53:11 AM EDT
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Do these have a sear block in the lower receiver?

With the way they are marked (Safe-Semi-Auto) I'd love to be able to put my RDIAS in there...
Link Posted: 7/2/2016 2:16:38 PM EDT
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yes they do.
Link Posted: 7/2/2016 2:22:49 PM EDT
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Do these have a sear block in the lower receiver?

With the way they are marked (Safe-Semi-Auto) I'd love to be able to put my RDIAS in there...
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I thought I saw a picture of the Troy lower and I don't think it's compatible with the RDIAS because Troy left a "web" between the FCG pocket and rear-lug pocket
Link Posted: 7/2/2016 3:30:41 PM EDT
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Looks very nice.
Link Posted: 7/3/2016 1:36:58 PM EDT
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that looks great.

thats slick the way they engraved to lower near the trigger. i wish more manufacturers would do that.

Link Posted: 7/3/2016 8:46:19 PM EDT
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I didn't want to cause any problems but I found where they engraved the rifle.  Yes, I asked them to not engrave the weapon.  I shot it yesterday, trigger was a bit gritty but 100% function and was a hoot to shoot.
http://hobbyhorse.com/guns/xm177_3.jpg
http://hobbyhorse.com/guns/xm177_2.jpg
http://hobbyhorse.com/guns/xm177_1.jpg
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How much did you give for it if you don't mind me asking. I was in the process of doing an XM177E1 clone and have half the parts but I may just go the easy route.
Link Posted: 7/3/2016 9:33:58 PM EDT
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I received my XM177e2 yesterday. No Troy logo on left side. Its very nice and price is quite reasonable.
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Are y'all getting these directly from Troy or from another dealer?
Link Posted: 7/4/2016 2:10:33 PM EDT
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Directly from Troy. $1225. Myservicerifle.com
Link Posted: 7/4/2016 2:49:25 PM EDT
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Almost tempted to buy one, change out the delta ring, chop the barrel and turn into a XM177E1.
Link Posted: 7/4/2016 3:02:46 PM EDT
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Now they put it out the way I would like. But now I am going to just wait for the COLT, Since I just shot the wad on a 66 date SP-1,and new in wrap 60's Armalite mags.It never fail's.. Right after funds sent. They change something up.

have to thin the herd some more on stuff I don't need. Retro is a sickness. And the worse is when you lived it in the first go around. Glad you got the XM nice looking rifle for that money. and minus mag well marking is a benefit.  sometimes less billboard is better.
Link Posted: 7/4/2016 3:06:45 PM EDT
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Thanks!
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 11:04:39 PM EDT
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Aw screw it when they open back up on the 11th. going to order the  XM {no logo} and still get the Colt when that is ready to order.
for 1200 can't go wrong for a blaster. and My Colts can stay nice ha ha

If they would have told me no logo from the start I would have not cancelled my order back in April..its all in the sales and lingo and service dept.
I'm a easy touch for nice stuff.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 4:53:06 PM EDT
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Aw screw it when they open back up on the 11th. going to order the  XM {no logo} and still get the Colt when that is ready to order.
for 1200 can't go wrong for a blaster. and My Colts can stay nice ha ha

If they would have told me no logo from the start I would have not cancelled my order back in April..its all in the sales and lingo and service dept.
I'm a easy touch for nice stuff.
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Exactly what I plan to do.
Troy XM177E2 as a shooter, and I will be buying the Colt XM177E2 as a safe queen :)
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 9:25:09 PM EDT
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Retros of a feather flock together   I am sure a few more will do the same.
Link Posted: 7/31/2016 6:41:45 PM EDT
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Got it back from indent markings. The will no engrave the colt mfg info.
Link Posted: 8/1/2016 4:39:50 PM EDT
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Is that the Troy you had engraved? if so let me know who to send to.looks nice
Link Posted: 8/1/2016 8:05:20 PM EDT
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It is the troy.  I sent it to ident markings.
Link Posted: 8/2/2016 3:16:54 AM EDT
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Does anyone know the barrel twist rate ?
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1/7.... Only a few differences.
which are minor. Port door. The only one soon that will be out will be the Colt Clone Copy.
Which will be a keeper for many I am sure.

This is a fun one till the real stuff arrives. And at 1200 buck's {minus 50 donation}is pretty fair.
Link Posted: 8/2/2016 8:16:49 PM EDT
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I thought I saw a picture of the Troy lower and I don't think it's compatible with the RDIAS because Troy left a "web" between the FCG pocket and rear-lug pocket
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Do these have a sear block in the lower receiver?

With the way they are marked (Safe-Semi-Auto) I'd love to be able to put my RDIAS in there...


I thought I saw a picture of the Troy lower and I don't think it's compatible with the RDIAS because Troy left a "web" between the FCG pocket and rear-lug pocket


One would guess that could be milled out.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 8:02:15 AM EDT
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