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Posted: 4/23/2016 9:19:43 AM EDT
So i was never intending for this to be an annual thing or indeed a "thing" again. Having said that the last retro patches were very popular and routinely get requests for more.
I was looking at the old patches and they do have a "militaristic" look to them so I thought i'd work on a more discrete design that could be worn on jackets or bags. I know that the sight wheel patches done by another member were also popular but I didn't want to copy that design completely. Instead I looked at old gas station signs and civilian rescue patches. This is what I came up with. Thoughts and comments are appreciated. 
I had toyed with the idea of palm trees instead of mountains and clearly the text isn't fully laid out of final yet but this is a proof of concept. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 9:29:07 AM EDT
[#1]
What about no mountains just the bolt. Or perhaps front & rear sight picture?
Looks good though. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 9:54:18 AM EDT
[#2]
I thought about just the bolt but it looked a little too on the nose.
I was going for a sun rising over the mountains. I'll do some work on it with some other options. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 10:32:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Ah gotchya!
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Posted: 4/23/2016 2:10:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Couple of suggestions, if I may be so bold.
First, I love the boltface as much as anybody, but shouldn't the retro patch have something signifying the guns of an earlier era? Maybe a depiction of a three-prong or duckbill FH? Or maybe the right side of the upper/lower showing no FA or fence? Second, IMHO the full-color is pretty bright and reminds me of the old AMC logo:  On the other hand, the old OD & Black color scheme is pretty tired. How about something in between, along the lines of AF subdued patches:  Again, just making a couple of suggestions. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 2:58:29 PM EDT
[#5]
I like the sunrise image (and saw it immediately), the basic layout, the traditional colors, and the slogan--a nice change from "Come & Take 'Em."
I'd buy a couple of them as they are! Edit, to clarify my thinking: The sun on the mountains is a question. Does the sun still rise on our freedom, or are we watching the sun set? And the slogan is basically an encouragement to learn from history. Freedom is always dependent upon the vigilant. I like the message that we shouldn't just watch our rights (continue to) slip away. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 3:24:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Whatever we end up with, I'm in for two!
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Posted: 4/23/2016 3:35:45 PM EDT
[#7]
Nice work. I like the OD patch.
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Posted: 4/23/2016 3:42:13 PM EDT
[#8]
Instead of a bolt face it could be a 601 sight wheel.
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Posted: 4/23/2016 3:58:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Instead of the bolt. How about a 604 and a 605 and a GAU-5A/A flying in formation?
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Posted: 4/23/2016 5:58:16 PM EDT
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Instead of a bolt face it could be a 601 sight wheel. I can do a variant like that. As for anything more fancy like with rifles etc we need to remember that the patches need to be stitched and lose a lot of detail in the stitching. As for the bolt face rising over the mountains the poet in me would suggest that it refers to the 1957 date on the left and the dawning of a new age of rifle development. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 6:09:34 PM EDT
[#11]
I like it as it is. Especially the OD one. Nice job.
That should look really nice; simple lines and less detail to reproduce. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 11:45:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What about no mountains just the bolt. Or perhaps front & rear sight picture? Looks good though. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 12:47:35 AM EDT
[#13]
I like the idea, but am not excited about a bolt face.
I too would like some retro identifier, two XM177's making an X or a 603 and a XM? Or if subtle, then just a moderator, or a duck bill / tri-prong, or a waffle mag? thx |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 4:05:42 AM EDT
[#14]
I loved he first patches, got one of each
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Posted: 4/24/2016 8:54:45 AM EDT
[#15]
So here's the thing, again for those suggesting rifles, fancy things flying around etc it's not that I can't do them but more so that the patches will look poor once they are stitched.
I am uploading a sight wheel variant below: 
p.s. obviously I still need to fix the lettering for Retro and the slogan but it's just a mock up |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 9:19:24 AM EDT
[#16]
Definitely done in the old BDU era subdued colors (OD, Black, brown) and with lettering that would be reminiscent of old "Mama San's" sewing machine quality. Like the old in-country patches our VN era brethren wore.
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Posted: 4/24/2016 9:39:21 AM EDT
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Yep I made a distressed version this morning just as a test that looked cool but in my excitement I forgot to save. In any case I'll take another crack at it tonight along with trying to finish some other stuff up
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Posted: 4/24/2016 11:46:39 AM EDT
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So here's the thing, again for those suggesting rifles, fancy things flying around etc it's not that I can't do them but more so that the patches will look poor once they are stitched. I am uploading a sight wheel variant below: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retro2016%20logo%20sight%20wheel%20small.jpg~original p.s. obviously I still need to fix the lettering for Retro and the slogan but it's just a mock up 
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Posted: 4/24/2016 11:53:01 AM EDT
[#19]
In for two to complement the last set
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Posted: 4/24/2016 3:34:55 PM EDT
[#20]
I really like it, but what is the significance of the flags/mountains?
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Posted: 4/24/2016 4:12:52 PM EDT
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I really like it, but what is the significance of the flags/mountains? Nothing really just kind of symbolism. How does this work for everyone? 
please ignore wrinkles i was just messing around with something |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 4:20:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So here's the thing, again for those suggesting rifles, fancy things flying around etc it's not that I can't do them but more so that the patches will look poor once they are stitched. I am uploading a sight wheel variant below: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retro2016%20logo%20sight%20wheel%20small.jpg~original p.s. obviously I still need to fix the lettering for Retro and the slogan but it's just a mock up I'm not a retro guy (yet), but I love this kind of stuff. I like your design. Maye I humbly suggest that you try to reproduce the font that is used on the roll mark of retro rifles? I think it would be a neat easter egg. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 4:57:49 PM EDT
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Nothing really just kind of symbolism. How does this work for everyone? http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retro%20distressed%201.jpg~original please ignore wrinkles i was just messing around with something Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really like it, but what is the significance of the flags/mountains? Nothing really just kind of symbolism. How does this work for everyone? http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retro%20distressed%201.jpg~original please ignore wrinkles i was just messing around with something I like that one better than the original. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 5:41:46 PM EDT
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Nothing really just kind of symbolism. How does this work for everyone? http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retro%20distressed%201.jpg~original please ignore wrinkles i was just messing around with something Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really like it, but what is the significance of the flags/mountains? Nothing really just kind of symbolism. How does this work for everyone? http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retro%20distressed%201.jpg~original please ignore wrinkles i was just messing around with something I love it! |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 6:26:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Double Post
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Posted: 4/24/2016 6:30:34 PM EDT
[#26]
Some ideas I had for your next ones. Maybe next year .etc
Profiles of Soldiers with M16's   Rifle teepee, could even have different variants  |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 6:43:54 PM EDT
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Some ideas I had for your next ones. Maybe next year .etc Profiles of Soldiers with M16's http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/_4qYYe4XPmvq1hKTal5XWA/348s.jpg http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/VietnamMemorial_Three_Soldiers_.jpg Rifle teepee, could even have different variants http://www.105th.org/gallery/2004chuck/rifles.jpg I've tried those I'll have to post some up. I did kind of a band of brothers thing again though the problem is detail when it's on a 3" patch you lose it all. They end up looking like stick men. I'll see what I can do. I do have a little special something planned at some point but for now I'm keeping it simple. Thanks for the input. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 7:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've tried those I'll have to post some up. I did kind of a band of brothers thing again though the problem is detail when it's on a 3" patch you lose it all. They end up looking like stick men. I'll see what I can do. I do have a little special something planned at some point but for now I'm keeping it simple. Thanks for the input. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some ideas I had for your next ones. Maybe next year .etc Profiles of Soldiers with M16's http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/_4qYYe4XPmvq1hKTal5XWA/348s.jpg http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/VietnamMemorial_Three_Soldiers_.jpg Rifle teepee, could even have different variants http://www.105th.org/gallery/2004chuck/rifles.jpg I've tried those I'll have to post some up. I did kind of a band of brothers thing again though the problem is detail when it's on a 3" patch you lose it all. They end up looking like stick men. I'll see what I can do. I do have a little special something planned at some point but for now I'm keeping it simple. Thanks for the input. How are these sold? |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 7:37:42 PM EDT
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They weren't last time they were given away. A few of the regulars chipped in to help out. It was an intense couple of weeks
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Posted: 4/24/2016 8:00:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Ok last update. I did a few requests and I honestly still thing the sight wheel alone is the way to go.... the others will lose detail in stitching. Having said that I did a quick mock up to make them look like patches. Still need to work on the bottom text to make it flow better.
Option 1: I like it, we know what it is, it doesn't look militaristic 
Option 2: 
Option 3: 
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Posted: 4/24/2016 8:06:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok last update. I did a few requests and I honestly still thing the sight wheel alone is the way to go.... the others will lose detail in stitching. Having said that I did a quick mock up to make them look like patches. Still need to work on the bottom text to make it flow better. Option 1: I like it, we know what it is, it doesn't look militaristic http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/option%203.jpg~original Option 2: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/option%202.jpg~original Option 3: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/option1.jpg~original |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 1:02:36 AM EDT
[#32]
I'm in for whatever . But I like 1, and 3 the most
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Posted: 4/26/2016 8:11:40 AM EDT
[#33]
I like #1 the best, as it could be worn at non gun friendly workplaces and schools.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 9:40:53 AM EDT
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I'm in for whatever . But I like 1, and 3 the most Yup, two please. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 10:27:02 AM EDT
[#35]
I like the sight wheel alone. It looks classy and the least militaristic, plus there can be no uproar on GD about the BFL usage.
Another possible idea I had while trying to think of retro-specific things would be a top-down view of the front sight post. Considering the A1's and earlier had the five notches over five notches and a different post shape, it might work. Alternatively we could make "Union" style patches. Pencil Barrel Local #625 Slow Twisters Local #112
Let me know if you need help with anything as I made up some designs for a logo for a Tavor owner's group that we had made into die-cut vinyl stickers. I had IWI's VP of marketing asking me for a quote of a couple hundred.
Just keep in mind that whatever we do, we are going to have to do something bigger for next year as it will be the 60th birthday! |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 11:26:38 AM EDT
[#36]
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I like the sight wheel alone. It looks classy and the least militaristic, plus there can be no uproar on GD about the BFL usage. Another possible idea I had while trying to think of retro-specific things would be a top-down view of the front sight post. Considering the A1's and earlier had the five notches over five notches and a different post shape, it might work. Alternatively we could make "Union" style patches. Pencil Barrel Local #625 Slow Twisters Local #112
Let me know if you need help with anything as I made up some designs for a logo for a Tavor owner's group that we had made into die-cut vinyl stickers. I had IWI's VP of marketing asking me for a quote of a couple hundred.
Just keep in mind that whatever we do, we are going to have to do something bigger for next year as it will be the 60th birthday! Thanks man I'll reach out tonight! And yes we are this actually came from me mess around with a 60th idea I've been kicking around. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 12:12:19 PM EDT
[#37]
I like option # 1
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Posted: 4/26/2016 1:38:11 PM EDT
[#38]
& what's wrong with them having a military look to them, exactly? I'd much rather that than something that only reminds me of Obama.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:46:36 PM EDT
[#39]
I like 3 the best, great work. But like the multicam style colors of your other examples.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 6:58:12 PM EDT
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& what's wrong with them having a military look to them, exactly? I'd much rather that than something that only reminds me of Obama. Lol well i could go with all red if that makes you feel better or you could do a green one? In all seriousness i thought they looked like a pokeball 
The militaristic thing is just an alternative. I like to be able to wear a patch on my jacket skiing or going through the airport without someone thinking i'm military or something. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 7:07:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Stuff like this is why retro forum is best forum
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Posted: 4/26/2016 9:38:31 PM EDT
[#42]
They look awesome. Put me down for two. lol
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Posted: 4/29/2016 2:12:53 PM EDT
[#43]
They are sweet, put me down for two and let me know who to send the money too.
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Posted: 4/29/2016 2:34:18 PM EDT
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They are sweet, put me down for two and let me know who to send the money too. I'll reach out to the patch people this weekend and to zman for some other things. I also need to finish up some work for Morg. As soon as I know what's going on with dates etc i'll let everyone know. |
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Posted: 4/29/2016 2:35:49 PM EDT
[#45]
Nice
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Posted: 4/30/2016 9:27:53 AM EDT
[#46]
I am in for three of whatever is decided on. Let me know where to send money
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Posted: 4/30/2016 10:29:29 AM EDT
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They are sweet, put me down for two and let me know who to send the money too. Ditto
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Posted: 5/4/2016 11:26:40 AM EDT
[#48]
I would be willing to send some money to help with sent up. Just let me know.
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Posted: 5/4/2016 1:02:11 PM EDT
[#49]
There all great. Take my money!
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Posted: 5/4/2016 3:17:45 PM EDT
[#50]
I like #1 and would definitely be down for one in a black/OD configuration.
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