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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:31:27 PM EDT
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Your first paragraph made me laugh.
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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your first paragraph made me laugh.  |
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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:40:51 PM EDT
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Got to have 2 at a minimum. Feed the sickness! |
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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:41:54 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/2016-03/F516A91A-AB5F-4655-975E-38BF4B7C1E7B_zpsiepfvjpg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/2016-03/F516A91A-AB5F-4655-975E-38BF4B7C1E7B_zpsiepfvjpg.jpg</a> <a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/2016-03/96587E1D-6DFA-4D2E-82E8-E5D3353DEE38_zpsg3yeb882.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/2016-03/96587E1D-6DFA-4D2E-82E8-E5D3353DEE38_zpsg3yeb882.jpg</a> NICE. Love it. |
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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:47:26 PM EDT
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You ain't helpin the situation none BROvet04!
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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:50:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:57:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/26/2016 2:22:04 PM EDT
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Nice! AR180 mag? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/2016-03/F516A91A-AB5F-4655-975E-38BF4B7C1E7B_zpsiepfvjpg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/2016-03/F516A91A-AB5F-4655-975E-38BF4B7C1E7B_zpsiepfvjpg.jpg</a> <a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/2016-03/96587E1D-6DFA-4D2E-82E8-E5D3353DEE38_zpsg3yeb882.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/2016-03/96587E1D-6DFA-4D2E-82E8-E5D3353DEE38_zpsg3yeb882.jpg</a> <a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/user/tom051876/media/2016-03/C76379F1-13A3-4F9E-BEE0-C3863212C0D5_zpsmtj1vzh3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/tom051876/2016-03/C76379F1-13A3-4F9E-BEE0-C3863212C0D5_zpsmtj1vzh3.jpg</a> Got to have 2 at a minimum. Feed the sickness! Nice! AR180 mag? Yes wish I had a real one like m1carbinekid. Looks the part though. |
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Posted: 3/26/2016 2:28:32 PM EDT
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Care to chime in? Can't help you with a 629, but I'm in the middle of an M16A2 build, RO727 build, and M16A1 arsenal rebuild build at the moment. It never ends. I just snagged a Colt barrel for the 727 and a SAK barrel for the M16A1, my wallet is telling me to stop.
I feel your pain 
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Posted: 3/26/2016 2:41:08 PM EDT
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Yes wish I had a real one like m1carbinekid. Looks the part though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/26/2016 4:07:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/26/2016 4:22:51 PM EDT
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Nice carbines guys
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Posted: 3/26/2016 9:28:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: Well, starting the end of next week, I hope to be in the midst of four builds. I thought perhaps these builds might placate the BR Gods. No chance! They still haven't been appeased and are now demanding that I build them a 629 Commando. While I don't want to anger the BR Gods, I'm not sure I want to commit to another HTF parts search. Nor do I really want to finance such a build. While I haven't started the search/buying process yet, from what I've seen, this build may be a difficult to find parts project. Anyone care to chime in?  |
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Posted: 3/26/2016 9:53:11 PM EDT
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WOW....when I'm done! Lot's of faith here. I'm tryin NOT to build one!
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Posted: 3/26/2016 10:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WOW....when I'm done! Lot's of faith here. I'm tryin NOT to build one! |
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Posted: 3/27/2016 12:24:09 PM EDT
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You should totally build one!
Everyone else is doing it...... 
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Posted: 3/27/2016 7:35:17 PM EDT
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Do it man, do it !!
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Posted: 3/27/2016 7:56:56 PM EDT
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Uhg!
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Posted: 3/28/2016 7:02:09 PM EDT
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OK, sooooooo let's assume I am caving in to the wicked Gods of the RBRs. Where does one find the things that make a 629 what it is, ie:
6 hole skinny Hand Guards 2 pos buffer tube- NDS Acetate coated stock 11.5" barrel group The above can all be reproductions as long as they are quality pieces. I will be, IF, I do this, pinning a 4.5 Moderator foregoing another SBR expense. |
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Posted: 3/28/2016 7:12:34 PM EDT
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OK, sooooooo let's assume I am caving in to the wicked Gods of the RBRs. Where does one find the things that make a 629 what it is, ie: 6 hole skinny Hand Guards 2 pos buffer tube- NDS Acetate coated stock 11.5" barrel group The above can all be reproductions as long as they are quality pieces. I will be, IF, I do this, pinning a 4.5 Moderator foregoing another SBR expense. I bet Lionel Lin might b able to help you out. JT pencil weight barrel and John Thomas for the moderator and work. |
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Posted: 3/28/2016 7:16:26 PM EDT
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OK, sooooooo let's assume I am caving in to the wicked Gods of the RBRs. Where does one find the things that make a 629 what it is, ie: 6 hole skinny Hand Guards 2 pos buffer tube- NDS Acetate coated stock 11.5" barrel group The above can all be reproductions as long as they are quality pieces. I will be, IF, I do this, pinning a 4.5 Moderator foregoing another SBR expense. 6 holes are all over the EE and GB. Actual Colt Acetate coated stocks are on GB and the EE all the time, but cost a pretty penny. Repros are things you have to make, either from another aluminum stock (bushmaster or Essential Arms), which can be found in the same places. OR I have seen some people sand/paint plastic stock bodies in gloss black, and they look the part. You can find good repros of the colt N/1 stock body from M&A for a reasonable price. 11.5" barrels can be found in the same places, especially if you're looking for colt. But repros are available from other sources (check the spreadsheet). You can also get a longer carbine barrel, and have it chopped down. |
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Posted: 3/28/2016 7:19:23 PM EDT
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Brownells is supposed to be doing retro carbine barrels soon
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Posted: 3/28/2016 7:20:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will be, IF, I do this, pinning a 4.5 Moderator foregoing another SBR expense. The barrel will need to be about 12.7" before pinning a 4.5" moderator to get over the 16" limit for non-NFA. As said elsewhere, you'll have to cut down a longer barrel or wait until Brownells releases their 12.7" retro barrel. |
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Posted: 3/28/2016 7:29:48 PM EDT
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I'll use Brace for all my work. Nothing at all against JT but Brace is 15 minutes away.
Original parts are fine, but price on this one is paramount, hence the OK on the repro. I'm afraid to contact Lionel. Every time I do, it's always several hundred dollars worth of goodies. Argh! Maybe I'll just build this one in my head. When I find a part, I'll pretend to buy it then check it off my list. Once everything is checked off, I'll build it....in my head. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 1:22:21 PM EDT
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OK I have located an Original Colt upper with CH forge codes. Is this acceptable for the 629/XM177E2?
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Posted: 4/7/2016 1:25:46 PM EDT
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OK I have located an Original Colt upper with CH forge codes. Is this acceptable for the 629/XM177E2? Thanks CH codes were used 1974-82, XM177E2 production only ran until 1970 IIRC. You will want (need ) a non-forge code, round forge upper.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 1:32:55 PM EDT
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Colt did make commercial and export versions up through the 70's though.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 1:37:34 PM EDT
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Colt did make commercial and export versions up through the 70's though. Learn something new everyday. I assume those would have used whatever uppers were being produced at the time then. Do you know when 629/630 production finally ceased? |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 1:42:40 PM EDT
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I'll give it to Braceman for code removal and reprofiling.
Thanks |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 1:44:50 PM EDT
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Learn something new everyday. I assume those would have used whatever uppers were being produced at the time then. Do you know when 629/630 production finally ceased? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Colt did make commercial and export versions up through the 70's though. Learn something new everyday. I assume those would have used whatever uppers were being produced at the time then. Do you know when 629/630 production finally ceased? Don't know exactly, it was the model 639, RBR has pics. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 3:00:44 PM EDT
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The commercial ones in the 70s did have CH forge uppers and moderators with colt markings
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Posted: 4/8/2016 7:48:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2016 11:01:13 AM EDT
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Found my barrel, FSB, Type 2 stock, lower & upper receiver today. Will get my LPK tomorrow. Waiting on NDS for a 2 pos buffer tube.
I think with that, I'll have everything I need. Then I get to bug Braceman yet again for more profiling and engraving. |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 8:42:44 PM EDT
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Did some more buying today. Called Slim at Indiana Surplus for my LPK and a few other bits. Having a hard time finding a grey tapered Delta ring, and a Ejection port door hinge. Everything is in black, and we all know that is the WRONG color.
Everything should arrive by the end of this week. JT tells me he'll have some more Moderators in a few weeks. |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 10:32:26 PM EDT
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CH forge with forward assist? That would be my choice
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Posted: 4/12/2016 10:35:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CH forge with forward assist? That would be my choice |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 6:30:20 PM EDT
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The anatomy of a 629. Just need a grey receiver plate, Grey tapered Delta ring, Moderator w/ grenade ring, and a 2 pos receiver extension.
As usual, the Great Braceman will be cutting down and pinning the barrel, and re working my upper and lower including the engraving. This will be my last build. See how I did that? I'm deliberately defiant in the face of the RBR Gods! That'll show 'em!  " /> |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:28:03 PM EDT
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Are you going to have that M4 barrel turned down??
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:34:59 PM EDT
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Yes, Braceman will reprofile it and cut it down
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:40:52 PM EDT
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Yes, Braceman will reprofile it and cut it down 
I had nasty visions in my head.
1:7 twist? Should make for a great ammo friendly carbine. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:09:48 PM EDT
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Yes 7 or 9 I can't recall at present.
BTW- The collapsible stock is from Essential Arms and is beautiful. It is powder coated instead of being dipped. I have a buddy that has two or three originals and will be comparing them in a day or two. I'll take side by side pics and post here. I thought $110 wasn't a bad price, ( I opted out of the other 3 parts, only wanted the stock). I'll buy a NDS 2 pos tube as soon as they are available. I hear Tonys Customs are good too, but not powder coated and didnt want that hassle. EA was only $10 more and it was already done for me. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:53:36 AM EDT
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Here's a real acetate stock (left) next to my Essential Arms. There were only two things that really set them apart.
One was the stock checkering was filled in a little at the top of the Acetate one, and two, there was a seam running the length of the release lever on the EA stock. They are virtually identical. Even my usually skeptical buddy was impressed. He had the real stock. I would highly recommend one of these stocks. It ran me $110 + shipping for the STOCK ONLY.  " /> |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 8:55:02 AM EDT
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EA on top
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Posted: 4/22/2016 10:12:34 AM EDT
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NIce comparison, thanks!
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Posted: 4/22/2016 12:38:20 PM EDT
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When it came time to give it back, we had to look a little bit to figure out who's was who's. That tells me its a great copy!
EDIT: Anyone out there have a castle nut and/or a tapered Delta Ring, both in grey, they'll sell me. Or direct me to some place that has them? |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 9:16:15 PM EDT
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I was up to Bracemans this evening picking up some parts for my 601 and I dropped off the parts for my XM177E2 build. After talking awhile about an E1, I'm considering one of those instead. I like the compactness of the E1 better, but was building the E2 to save another $200 for another SBR.
So my question is, which do I build? |
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Posted: 5/11/2016 9:04:55 PM EDT
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Opinions?
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Posted: 5/11/2016 10:15:31 PM EDT
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Opinions? If SBR is the question, SBR is the answer (if you already have one). For me, I'm not in the NFA game yet so I would personally choose a 16 OAL build than a stamp. But if you already have one, or a trust, then why not? |
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Posted: 5/12/2016 11:55:03 AM EDT
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Im still on the fence on this one. I may mark the lower as an "E1" and make the upper an "E2" as mentioned on page one. Otherwise I think the full "E2" is the way to go. Not sure I want to do a 5th stamp.
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