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Posted: 7/21/2015 9:21:36 PM EDT
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I agree, AR-18S is my favorite, but I'm partial.
Where were these taken? Where are they now? |
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1983 should indicate when ArmaLite Costa Mesa CA ceased operations and there was an accounting of the Class 3 weapons in their possession that were registered under ArmaLite and Fairchild Aircraft. I believe Reed Knight ended up purchasing most if not all of them.
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1983 should indicate when ArmaLite Costa Mesa CA ceased operations and there was an accounting of the Class 3 weapons in their possession that were registered under ArmaLite and Fairchild Aircraft. I believe Reed Night ended up purchasing most if not all of them. View Quote Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "ArmaLite" and "Fairchild" parted ways about Mid 1963. |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "ArmaLite" and "Fairchild" parted ways about Mid 1963. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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1983 should indicate when ArmaLite Costa Mesa CA ceased operations and there was an accounting of the Class 3 weapons in their possession that were registered under ArmaLite and Fairchild Aircraft. I believe Reed Night ended up purchasing most if not all of them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "ArmaLite" and "Fairchild" parted ways about Mid 1963. I thought ArmaLite and Fairchild parted in 1962. ArmaLite was sold to Elisco Tool Manufacturing Company in 1983. I suppose they could have had had the Colt 607 and 608 in the pics, but wonder why? |
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Based on the feet, I thought the first two pictures were new but just 'shopped to make them look old.
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Normally I post AR10 junk but realize that most of you like the poodle shooters. So here are a few pics from the old Armalite inventory. http://oi62.tinypic.com/2mryvbo.jpg http://oi57.tinypic.com/2088cg1.jpg http://oi57.tinypic.com/fxtgg8.jpg View Quote Do you mean ArmaLite? |
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View Quote Yes, I mean the original Armalite. Forgive me for the confusion. Writing Armalite-Fairchild was done only to differentiate the Armalite company from the present Armalite-Genesco. From now on it will be Armalite-CostaMesa. Someone actually thinks the images are photoshopped? See'in any black helicopters your way? The photos were taken by an individual known the the AR10 collector world as he was a frequent contributor to the AR-10'er newsletter. The guy had the stones to ask to be invited to Armalite in 1983 and they gave him free reign in "the collection", He was actually allowed to bring some items out into the alley so that they could be photographed in natural light. The same guy also got into the FBI reference collection in 1983 or 1984. He also spent some quality time in Sam Cummin's office and warehouse. |
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Yes, I mean the original Armalite. Forgive me for the confusion. Writing Armalite-Fairchild was done only to differentiate the Armalite company from the present Armalite-Genesco. From now on it will be Armalite-CostaMesa. Some actually thinks the images are photoshopped? See'in any black helicopters your way? The photos were taken by an individual known the the AR10 collector world as he was a frequent contributor to the AR-10'er newsletter. The guy had the stones to ask to be invited to Armalite in 1983 and they gave him free reign in "the collection", He was actually allowed to bring some items out into the alley so that they could be photographed in natural light. The same guy also got into the FBI reference collection in 1983 or 1984. He also spent some quality time in Sam Cummin's office and warehouse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:...Do you mean ArmaLite?
Yes, I mean the original Armalite. Forgive me for the confusion. Writing Armalite-Fairchild was done only to differentiate the Armalite company from the present Armalite-Genesco. From now on it will be Armalite-CostaMesa. Some actually thinks the images are photoshopped? See'in any black helicopters your way? The photos were taken by an individual known the the AR10 collector world as he was a frequent contributor to the AR-10'er newsletter. The guy had the stones to ask to be invited to Armalite in 1983 and they gave him free reign in "the collection", He was actually allowed to bring some items out into the alley so that they could be photographed in natural light. The same guy also got into the FBI reference collection in 1983 or 1984. He also spent some quality time in Sam Cummin's office and warehouse. I was confused because you did not seem to be familiar with the proper spelling of ArmaLite. |
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Please, let us not have a purse fight over the capitalization of "L" in Armalite. There is plenty of material from the original Armalite-CostaMesa company that does not use the capital "L". However, "ArmaLite" is a trademark that a later company has registered.
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It was a joke based on the arfcom meme of including feet in gun photos. Did you miss my smiley or forget yours? Thanks for the pictures. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone actually thinks the images are photoshopped? See'in any black helicopters your way? It was a joke based on the arfcom meme of including feet in gun photos. Did you miss my smiley or forget yours? Thanks for the pictures. I would have used an smiley but old dudes like me are incapable. Meaning my vintage Commodore computer has a limited keyboard. I will post some more. Maybe the AR16's. |
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Some info on the Fairchild collection
http://smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1211 |
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Some info on the Fairchild collection http://smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1211 View Quote Thank you |
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More pics please http://oi57.tinypic.com/2qjypvk.jpg http://oi60.tinypic.com/2qajr55.jpg Beautiful! |
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Check out the Diamond inlays on the heels................Kinda M70 like.
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The nicer rifles were not in the storage room, but were kept close at hand. http://oi59.tinypic.com/16jhf86.jpg View Quote Wow! The handguards on the two AR10's on the right look very... modern. Those would not be out of place today. Are there any pics of these showing more detail anywhere on the net? |
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Wow! The handguards on the two AR10's on the right look very... modern. Those would not be out of place today. Are there any pics of these showing more detail anywhere on the net? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The nicer rifles were not in the storage room, but were kept close at hand. http://oi59.tinypic.com/16jhf86.jpg Wow! The handguards on the two AR10's on the right look very... modern. Those would not be out of place today. Are there any pics of these showing more detail anywhere on the net? The AR10s in the last pic are 1) Hollywood, 2) Portuguese, 3) two Sudanese or Cuban Below is a Cuban AR10. |
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The pretty rifles in the office bookcase, the others in the store room. http://oi57.tinypic.com/2eartrc.jpg http://oi58.tinypic.com/dfgbch.jpg View Quote |
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The AR10s are 1) Hollywood, 2) Portuguese, 3) two Sudanese or Cuban Below is a Cuban AR10. http://oi53.tinypic.com/pq0zq.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The nicer rifles were not in the storage room, but were kept close at hand. http://oi59.tinypic.com/16jhf86.jpg Wow! The handguards on the two AR10's on the right look very... modern. Those would not be out of place today. Are there any pics of these showing more detail anywhere on the net? The AR10s are 1) Hollywood, 2) Portuguese, 3) two Sudanese or Cuban Below is a Cuban AR10. http://oi53.tinypic.com/pq0zq.jpg Okay. After looking around, I think the two on the far right next to the Hollywoods, I was referring to are belt fed. The top view in the rack makes the fore ends look like the carbon fibre PRI free float forearms. Optical illusion, optical delusion I wonder if DSA will ever come through, I could use one of these. I'll be over here holding my breath. |
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Note the 2nd pic of the store room has two Iver Johnson style wire stock M1 carbines. I wonder if they had anything to do with it's design?
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Note the 2nd pic of the store room has two Iver Johnson style wire stock M1 carbines. I wonder if they had anything to do with it's design? View Quote Armalite had a "Reference Collection" of firearms from different manufacturers. This allowed them to see how other designers had done things and in effect, come up with a "better way" I have seen some photos of the reference collection dating to the mid fifties which included a number of WW2 MGs. |
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Were there any photos of any other AR-18/180 variants? Or the AR-5 and its variants?
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View Quote Original Stoner AR-5? |
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I believe so. Top is "production", bottom is prototype. But AR-10'er should weigh in.
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I believe so. Top is "production", bottom is prototype. But AR-10'er should weigh in. View Quote The reason the AR-5 became the AR-7 is the Military turned it down due to it not being a repeating rifle, improvements were made which ended up as the AR-7 we all know and love today. |
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The rifle at the top appears to be an AR-5A. The barreled receiver below it appears to be an AR-5. Notice the difference in the safety. The AR-5 used the same magazine as the M4 survival rifle. The AR-5A used what they called a Ronson Lighter magazine which is pictured in the first photo.
Thanks for posting those Hhollow. At one time Mark had mentioned having examined an AR-180SP. The pistol version of the 180. You wouldn't by chance have a photo of that would you? |
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The reason the AR-5 became the AR-7 is the Military turned it down due to it not being a repeating rifle, improvements were made which ended up as the AR-7 we all know and love today. View Quote The AR-5 was adopted by the Air Force in 1956 as the MA-1. Funding to purchase more than the original 12 test rifles was never forthcoming as there were plenty of M4 and M6 survival rifles in stock. Receivers on the AR-5 were milled. Receivers on the AR-7 are cast making them much cheaper to produce. This is one reason that Armalite abandoned the AR-5 project after development of the AR-7. |
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The AR-5 was adopted by the Air Force in 1956 as the MA-1. Funding to purchase more than the original 12 test rifles was never forthcoming as there were plenty of M4 and M6 survival rifles in stock. Receivers on the AR-5 were milled. Receivers on the AR-7 are cast making them much cheaper to produce. This is one reason that Armalite abandoned the AR-5 project after development of the AR-7. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The reason the AR-5 became the AR-7 is the Military turned it down due to it not being a repeating rifle, improvements were made which ended up as the AR-7 we all know and love today. The AR-5 was adopted by the Air Force in 1956 as the MA-1. Funding to purchase more than the original 12 test rifles was never forthcoming as there were plenty of M4 and M6 survival rifles in stock. Receivers on the AR-5 were milled. Receivers on the AR-7 are cast making them much cheaper to produce. This is one reason that Armalite abandoned the AR-5 project after development of the AR-7. Thank You for filling me in on some details I was unaware of. |
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Hipshot, if you can find a copy of American Rifleman, January 1957. There is an article on the Air Force adoption of the AR-5.
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