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Posted: 3/26/2015 9:39:30 AM EDT
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Let me guess, pictures of weapons in piles rusting away. They were sold as scrap and melted down years ago.
Someone cue up the dupe inside a dupe inside a dupe to infinity picture, your going to need it I bet. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:43:25 AM EDT
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First time seeing that, Makes me sad. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:21:48 AM EDT
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That pile of Thompsons is sickening
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:55:26 AM EDT
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Holy crap! I would like to hear the story behind this arms dump, and arms dumps in general. Are they captured weapons? US and Allied weapons that get ditched at the end of the conflict?
It is amazing with this level of waste that any surplus parts exist at all! |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:01:44 PM EDT
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Holy crap! I would like to hear the story behind this arms dump, and arms dumps in general. Are they captured weapons? US and Allied weapons that get ditched at the end of the conflict? It is amazing with this level of waste that any surplus parts exist at all! We left a metric shit ton of weapons over there. Its cheaper than shipping back to the states. Look at all the stuff we left in Iraq. Billions of dollars. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:44:52 PM EDT
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I had a work mate that claims he never fired a shot in the desert storm. His job for six months was white phosphorous grenading brandnew equipment then burying it.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 1:45:27 PM EDT
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I see someone got here via 'active topics'.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 1:59:04 PM EDT
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Yawn ........old news is still old
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Posted: 3/26/2015 3:16:16 PM EDT
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Three of the nine posts in this thread are worthless posts that have done nothing except to increase their post count by one. Nice.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 3:38:07 PM EDT
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Three of the nine posts in this thread are worthless posts that have done nothing except to increase their post count by one. Nice. Including yours. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 4:02:58 PM EDT
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Wow, not the response I would've expected in the retro forum. I had no idea that this was a duplicate as I regularly visit this and many other milsurp forums and never seen this posted anywhere. I apologize to those I somwhow offended with this thread.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 4:15:46 PM EDT
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Wow, not the response I would've expected in the retro forum. I had no idea that this was a duplicate as I regularly visit this and many other milsurp forums and never seen this posted anywhere. I apologize to those I somwhow offended with this thread. I don't think you offended the regulars here. We LIKE to see the history thru pictures and don't get offended by double posts. The ones that got here by active topics...can't answer for them.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 4:21:46 PM EDT
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Wow, not the response I would've expected in the retro forum. I had no idea that this was a duplicate as I regularly visit this and many other milsurp forums and never seen this posted anywhere. I apologize to those I somwhow offended with this thread. I have always found the regular Retro crowd to be very professional and respectful. I'm not sure why it was an issue to some. Re-posting either intentionally or unintentionally often times gives the new guys a chance see something they may have missed. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 5:03:32 PM EDT
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I have always found the regular Retro crowd to be very professional and respectful. I'm not sure why it was an issue to some. Re-posting either intentionally or unintentionally often times gives the new guys a chance see something they may have missed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, not the response I would've expected in the retro forum. I had no idea that this was a duplicate as I regularly visit this and many other milsurp forums and never seen this posted anywhere. I apologize to those I somwhow offended with this thread. I have always found the regular Retro crowd to be very professional and respectful. I'm not sure why it was an issue to some. Re-posting either intentionally or unintentionally often times gives the new guys a chance see something they may have missed. +1 |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 5:15:55 PM EDT
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Wow, not the response I would've expected in the retro forum. I had no idea that this was a duplicate as I regularly visit this and many other milsurp forums and never seen this posted anywhere. I apologize to those I somwhow offended with this thread. I have always found the regular Retro crowd to be very professional and respectful. I'm not sure why it was an issue to some. Re-posting either intentionally or unintentionally often times gives the new guys a chance see something they may have missed. +1 +2 |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 5:29:58 PM EDT
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It was new to me, and I thought it was interesting. Apologies if my previous post added nothing to the discussion.
My Great Uncle told stories of abandoning bulldozers in the Pacific during World War II after they were done clearing landing strips. The throttles were locked open and they were just ran out to sea off the beach. Supposedly this was done in case the Japanese recaptured the island. I was always skeptical if this second-hand story was being retold accurately, but seeing the arms dump pictures makes me think it might be pretty close. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 5:45:28 PM EDT
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It was new to me, and I thought it was interesting. Apologies if my previous post added nothing to the discussion. My Great Uncle told stories of abandoning bulldozers in the Pacific during World War II after they were done clearing landing strips. The throttles were locked open and they were just ran out to sea off the beach. Supposedly this was done in case the Japanese recaptured the island. I was always skeptical if this second-hand story was being retold accurately, but seeing the arms dump pictures makes me think it might be pretty close. Nothing wrong with your previous post. It is likely to be new info to a lot of people and that makes it interesting. Yes, the stories are true. It was even done stateside in the 50s and 60s during base closings. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 5:51:32 PM EDT
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I have always found the regular Retro crowd to be very professional and respectful. I'm not sure why it was an issue to some. Re-posting either intentionally or unintentionally often times gives the new guys a chance see something they may have missed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, not the response I would've expected in the retro forum. I had no idea that this was a duplicate as I regularly visit this and many other milsurp forums and never seen this posted anywhere. I apologize to those I somwhow offended with this thread. I have always found the regular Retro crowd to be very professional and respectful. I'm not sure why it was an issue to some. Re-posting either intentionally or unintentionally often times gives the new guys a chance see something they may have missed. Word up. We're all here to learn. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 6:35:39 PM EDT
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That's the arms dump that was outside of old Saigon.
Those pictures were taken in 1990 by a gentleman from London, everything in those pics was condemned to the smelters shortly thereafter. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 9:51:19 PM EDT
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It was new to me, and I thought it was interesting. Apologies if my previous post added nothing to the discussion. My Great Uncle told stories of abandoning bulldozers in the Pacific during World War II after they were done clearing landing strips. The throttles were locked open and they were just ran out to sea off the beach. Supposedly this was done in case the Japanese recaptured the island. I was always skeptical if this second-hand story was being retold accurately, but seeing the arms dump pictures makes me think it might be pretty close. America has always done this. My uncle was in WW2 in Europe and was told he could send as many Jeeps home as he wanted as long as he paid to ship them. Look at all pics from Vietnam of UH-1's going over the side of air craft carriers.. As a taxpayer it upsets me greatly. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 9:55:58 PM EDT
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Never seen this before. Those poor Thompsons. I would love one as a wall hanger!
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:10:52 PM EDT
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Yes, we've seen these pics in the retro forum before. Nothing wrong with seeing them again. Plenty of topics get re-upped. Per the sadness, well I guess its just like other things in life. To everything there is a season.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:30:26 PM EDT
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Three of the nine posts in this thread are worthless posts that have done nothing except to increase their post count by one. Nice. Including yours. Way to go, sport! You've increased your post count by 2 with yet another useless post in this thread. Were you going to contribute anything? Or was it your intention to come into a technical forum and troll it with your GD'esq type post. GTFO and go back to GD. OP, don't let guys like williewvr get you down. Trolls be everywhere. Your post is appreciated, and those photos never get old. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:42:53 PM EDT
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I had a work mate that claims he never fired a shot in the desert storm. His job for six months was white phosphorous grenading brandnew equipment then burying it. Ya, my drove Abrams tanks, they were the first ones In the desert. When the war started , they didn't get to fight. They were told they were two fatigued . |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:47:57 PM EDT
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Sad
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:48:12 PM EDT
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We don't usually see this stuff here in the RETRO forum?
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:53:20 PM EDT
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Sad <a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg</a> Over 1300 M113 APC's and 550 M41 and M48 tanks.......Wow. That's a pretty significant amount of armored vehicles in a country where armored warfare isn't real practical. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 10:56:54 PM EDT
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Over 1300 M113 APC's and 550 M41 and M48 tanks.......Wow. That's a pretty significant amount of armored vehicles in a country where armored warfare isn't real practical. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sad <a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg</a> Over 1300 M113 APC's and 550 M41 and M48 tanks.......Wow. That's a pretty significant amount of armored vehicles in a country where armored warfare isn't real practical. Dad was keystoning units in Vietnam his last tour, he claims they recorded the serial number and dumped it in the sea if possible, burn and buried if not. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 8:35:34 AM EDT
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Over 1300 M113 APC's and 550 M41 and M48 tanks.......Wow. That's a pretty significant amount of armored vehicles in a country where armored warfare isn't real practical. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sad <a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg</a> Over 1300 M113 APC's and 550 M41 and M48 tanks.......Wow. That's a pretty significant amount of armored vehicles in a country where armored warfare isn't real practical. Not necessarily. Don't forget the 11th ACR or the 5th Mech. Granted armor of not much use in the Delta area, to be sure, but plenty useful lots of other places. The terrain is widely thought of as all rice paddy or triple-canopy jungle, but actually varied quite widely throughout the country. Gookers used tanks to good effect at Lang Vei in 1968 and there was significant use by both sides during the Easter Invasion of '72. Amongst others. Lang Vei April 30, 1975: 
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Posted: 3/27/2015 8:41:53 AM EDT
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xoldsmugglerx, thanks for reposting this.
 I had lost it in last puter crash, and forgotten about the site.
Lots of comments on some of the older weapons there,, BUT no one mentioned the CAR barrel with the fully perforated hand guard and what appears to be a hand made round front cap. Aluminum maybe??? 
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Posted: 3/27/2015 5:16:26 PM EDT
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xoldsmugglerx, thanks for reposting this. I had lost it in last puter crash, and forgotten about the site.
Lots of comments on some of the older weapons there,, BUT no one mentioned the CAR barrel with the fully perforated hand guard and what appears to be a hand made round front cap. Aluminum maybe??? http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww111/Robpics/upskirt_zpsa2spqfds.gif http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww111/Robpics/car%20barrel_zpsejswlemx.jpg Almost forgot about that custom carbine front end. Looks kinda like he is holding it by the BCG that's fused to the extension. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 5:42:34 PM EDT
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As an old AMTRACker I can't help but wish those LVTH6 turrets could be salvaged. The NMMC should have one - preferably on top of an LVT.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 5:44:38 PM EDT
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Sad <a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg</a> Obama is working on making that look paltry. 
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Posted: 3/27/2015 5:56:21 PM EDT
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<Sighs>
Some reminders are simply too painful to bear much repeating... |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 4:21:59 AM EDT
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id like to take a swim in that pile of M16's like uncle scrooge in his money vault
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Posted: 3/28/2015 7:32:42 AM EDT
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Wasn't there an in the field, quick and dirty, EOD method of destroying M16's by placing a small chunk of C4 or something in the breech and setting a light or
detonating it 
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Posted: 3/28/2015 8:37:22 AM EDT
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Sad <a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg</a> I wonder if we left the ammo behind for all of those? A buddy who went to Iraq brought home stuff from the "trash pile" that he said we leave for PR with the locals. The pile had everything but weapons, NV and armor. It really makes you wonder about EVERY CONFLICT we've been in. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 9:03:29 AM EDT
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A fellow I worked with was EOD in Vietnam----2 tours,I believe he said.He told me stories of making MANY,MANY trips out over the ocean to dump crates of .308 ammo........
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Posted: 3/28/2015 12:15:11 PM EDT
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We left a metric shit ton of weapons over there. Its cheaper than shipping back to the states. Look at all the stuff we left in Iraq. Billions of dollars. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy crap! I would like to hear the story behind this arms dump, and arms dumps in general. Are they captured weapons? US and Allied weapons that get ditched at the end of the conflict? It is amazing with this level of waste that any surplus parts exist at all! We left a metric shit ton of weapons over there. Its cheaper than shipping back to the states. Look at all the stuff we left in Iraq. Billions of dollars. A connex box can probably ship for a couple thousand dollars (just found one refference number being $1500 from china to australia with a 40 foot long connex box - probably similar from Vietnam to USA). You could pile 20 million dollars worth of thompsons in a connex box. It's just an example of government waste, or something out of government control if these represent captured ARVN weapons. If the Vietnam government had invested in some cosmoline and warehoused these, they could have made bank selling parts sets 20-30 years later. Even if there had been an trade embargo, the weapons could have been imported using an intermediary government. Scrap metal is worth maybe $2 a gun, whereas the manufactured firearm is worth $150-$300 as a parts set even wholesale. M60 parts sets are probably several thousand dollars. I just bought a 1928 Thompson parts set for $1750. I'm sure if Vietnam's government had any brains they would have rust protected and warehoused these, as that's a massive return and represents an incredible investment. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 12:47:17 PM EDT
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I had a work mate that claims he never fired a shot in the desert storm. His job for six months was white phosphorous grenading brandnew equipment then burying it. Halliburton's got to make a profit. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 3:14:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2015 5:56:06 PM EDT
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Sad <a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg</a> What is the title of this book? Trimdad I think with most conflicts there's always equipment left behind |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 6:34:10 PM EDT
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I had a work mate that claims he never fired a shot in the desert storm. His job for six months was white phosphorous grenading brandnew equipment then burying it. That sounds odd to me. When I was in Okinawa I spent weeks unloading an MPS ship of its cargo of vehicles and equipment that was coming home from the war. Some of it no longer running, we'd just put it in neutral and ride it down the ramp. A lot of junk and every battalion commander's messed up "war trophy" - MTLBs, T-72s, and various artillery pieces. Why would we destroy brand new gear and ship broken-down crap back? Maybe I'm giving the military too much credit for having common sense? Or maybe the Marines did it differently than one of the other services? |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 10:38:53 PM EDT
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I had not seen this before; thank you for posting.
Curious: would any of those weapons possibly have been serviceable back then, or were they all too far gone? I remember a thread where one member restored a buried 1911 from prohibition days, so I would think 20 - 30 years is still good to go, right? |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 11:28:26 PM EDT
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Bayonet lug?? I guess he really pieced it together.
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Posted: 4/1/2015 11:59:39 PM EDT
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Sad <a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/02293172-241E-483D-862E-4460C365A716.jpg</a> That just makes me sad. Never seen these old piles of weapon pics, have seen others, they are all sad. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 12:10:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2015 1:08:52 AM EDT
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I like your stories and I'd like to see your pics.
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The one thing I remember is the large amount of weapons of all kinds. In some camps there was a ban on what you could carry and other places it was what ever you wanted. Tons of ammo every where. When I look back in some places that I went to it reminded me of the wild west............Except for the fact we were at war. After TET 68 we had truck loads of captured weapons. Most were new, never fired. We also had a lot of WWII German, French and British weapons . I don't know how many tons of ammo we collected up. Some of the weapons went to our SF camps, some went to some High Ranking military. (Majors and above, with us giving them stuff they left us alone) That is another story. WE just set it out and they took what they wanted. Lots of China, Russian, etc. and a lot of recaptured American weapons. We used the SKS rifles and AK's for trading. OH! pistols brought a bunch in trade. We dealt with a lot of cargo air crews and gave them the M-1/ M-2 carbines. I carried a new AK47 for trips back and forth to the air field each day. The young man I got it from didn't even know how to load it. He had 3 rounds in his pocket and the AK still had cosmolene in it and on it. He didn't need it any more. but that's another story. I also carried a M79, loved it and i got really good with it. I may have a few pictures I can post if there is any interest. Sorry, OLD MAN rambling on. Ron <a href="http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/captron73/media/rvn-15%20-%20Copy_zps6aunwnum.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/captron73/rvn-15%20-%20Copy_zps6aunwnum.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/captron73/media/rvn-15%20-%20Copy%202_zpssacgyqza.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/captron73/rvn-15%20-%20Copy%202_zpssacgyqza.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/captron73/media/rvn-16_zpsqfvv1hz3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/captron73/rvn-16_zpsqfvv1hz3.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 6:48:20 AM EDT
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Found another picture of some captured weapons.
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