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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:54:07 PM EDT
Merry Christmas All.
Having an odd day today so figured i'd do something productive (don't worry Morg i'm working on your thing too  !)
In any case i've been wanting to make a retro forum patch for a while after the whole meal team six thing. If there is interest i'd buy a run and ship them to people, as my xmas gift to you guys (please note this is not an ad i do not own a printing or patch company, nor do I get paid for graphic design work anymore). I have some options but i'm always open to suggestions. For those wondering the Latin inscription is "I will find a way, or I will make one." I have included options with or without the ar15.com logo in case we aren't allowed to use it. Thoughts and comments appreciated. p.s. I could also do a muted one for those of us worried about cam and concealment 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:56:13 PM EDT
[#1]
The top one
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:58:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Awesome. I am definetly in on one. I like the 1st and the 4th ones the best
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:06:06 PM EDT
[#3]
I am definitely in. I have small runs of custom patches made for other things I'm involved in and I understand the effort in putting something like this together. I would be happy to support this.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:10:37 PM EDT
[#4]
i know you'll get a lot of opinions but here's my .02
make the skull more vietnam playing card like these, it'll make it a little more retro. 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:13:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks boywonder, I'm not great at doing skulls and I have a mild obsession with south of the border type day of the dead stuff which is kind of the look I always end up with.
I'll see what I can do :), I also kept things pretty simple where possible so that we don't lose too much detail in the patch. Let me work on it. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:16:19 PM EDT
[#6]
I find the bald one oddly appropriate.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:18:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Nice design, but you may run into a problem getting the rifles to look right that small, like the ones in the eyes. details are tough to sew.
Good looking designs. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:22:11 PM EDT
[#8]
Just took a skull from the net so you guys can get an idea. It does look cooler
Also ref the rifles in the eyes. I agree 100% that's why I moved them to the sides and also why I kept the skull basic. I just posted them up to show people different iterations. If the rifles to the side are too complicated for the patch shop I have other ideas I can work with. also colors and latin motto are all changeable so if you guys have any ideas let me know. 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:26:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Cool idea, and I'm in for one regardless of the design you settle on (I kinda like #1).
The only thing I'd say is those eyes make the skull look alien. I'd agree that the skull--or at least the eyes--should be a bit more retro. (My $.02, and worth almost what you paid for it!) Keep us posted! |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:27:53 PM EDT
[#10]
The ar15.com logo looks the best with the larger rifles on the outside of the skull. What's Latin for "I Will Build Another!"
I'm totally in! ETA I think if you simplify the skull a bit...it would look perfect. Somewhere between the first and second skulls minus the alien eye sockets. Great work! |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:40:13 PM EDT
[#11]
I like the green one best, but with AR15 logo, but they likely won't approve it. The reticle is cool too though - maybe better, actually. I like the newer, meaner skull. My one suggestion is to have the outline of an XM177E1 or E2 on the left, and rifle on the right.
 Very cool idea, and I would buy a few!
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:41:57 PM EDT
[#12]
I think its awesome. In.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:22:08 PM EDT
[#13]
Ok went with a compromise. I took a new skull, simpler than the last for ease of print. I put Morg's Xm177 on the left. Did a muted green color and shopped it onto a patch just so you guys could see what it would look like, also inverted some of the colors to make them stand out better on the patch.
I think the clarity of the rifles may suffer but they should give a good idea of what they are Clearly on an actual patch the scrolls, skull and rifles will stand out much more: 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:23:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Cool patch, can a newbie get in on this?
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:26:55 PM EDT
[#15]
You've been here a year, you aren't new. Also you are in state so i'm pretty sure I can get one to you
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:37:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Sweet.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:57:47 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok went with a compromise. I took a new skull, simpler than the last for ease of print. I put Morg's Xm177 on the left. Did a muted green color and shopped it onto a patch just so you guys could see what it would look like, also inverted some of the colors to make them stand out better on the patch. I think the clarity of the rifles may suffer but they should give a good idea of what they are Clearly on an actual patch the scrolls, skull and rifles will stand out much more: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retropatchmockupfinsmall.jpg~original +1 on this design and great work OP! |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:04:28 PM EDT
[#18]
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The ar15.com logo looks the best with the larger rifles on the outside of the skull. What's Latin for "I Will Build Another!" Alius aedificabo - another build ETA: Here's a simple skull that the BFL will fit on  ETA2: with BFL 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:11:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Why skulls?
I would rock a dead stealy head with a sight picture in the forehead though good idea for a shirt |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:12:27 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok went with a compromise. I took a new skull, simpler than the last for ease of print. I put Morg's Xm177 on the left. Did a muted green color and shopped it onto a patch just so you guys could see what it would look like, also inverted some of the colors to make them stand out better on the patch. I think the clarity of the rifles may suffer but they should give a good idea of what they are Clearly on an actual patch the scrolls, skull and rifles will stand out much more: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retropatchmockupfinsmall.jpg~original Great work. I like it. But, I like the bolt face better than the optic's cross hair on head. Keep it retro. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:28:15 PM EDT
[#21]
I love it.....great idea and work. I too agree a retro skull and bolt face. But either way.....love the idea....and will be up for at least one.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:36:06 PM EDT
[#22]
very nice work
when I did my run of retro 601sightwheel patches, I kept it so those in the know would get the connection without advertising firearms to those who weren't savvy 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:49:36 PM EDT
[#23]
First and fourth
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:50:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Whatever you decide on I will definitely want several for myself and siblings.
Way cool idea sir. I'm in! |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:08:42 PM EDT
[#25]
I like this one best so far.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:14:20 PM EDT
[#26]
I like the more realistic looking skull as far as skulls go, I also prefer the OD green.
Just a thought, maybe include or substitute a steel pot with a cover in there? I'll probably buy one anyway, just leaving some feedback.  " />
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:30:29 PM EDT
[#27]
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Alius aedificabo - another build ETA: Here's a simple skull that the BFL will fit on http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/Et2ss/simpleskull_zps2a28529d.png ETA2: with BFL http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/Et2ss/simpleskullBFL_zpsddf75453.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ar15.com logo looks the best with the larger rifles on the outside of the skull. What's Latin for "I Will Build Another!" Alius aedificabo - another build ETA: Here's a simple skull that the BFL will fit on http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/Et2ss/simpleskull_zps2a28529d.png ETA2: with BFL http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/Et2ss/simpleskullBFL_zpsddf75453.png This bolt face skull on the green patch with the rifle and carbine on each side. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:43:49 PM EDT
[#28]
OMG These are SO COOL!
How's about the skull with the rear sight wheel to avoid the ARFcom copyright? I dig the bolt face but the sight wheel is equally iconic to those of us in the know and it is ONLY retro whereas the bolt face could go either way. Diggin the subdued too. I am an addict. Can I get one too?
ETA My mild OCD don't like the carbine and the rifle on the same patch. SYMMETRY MAN! There MUST be SYMMETRY! 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 7:24:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Can we maybe get one of the rifle silhouettes to be of a model 601 (squared off neck on the stock & duck bill type 3 prong flash hider)?
You could also make the rifle components nearly twice as big if they were crossed behind the skull...
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Posted: 12/25/2014 7:46:25 PM EDT
[#30]
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I like the more realistic looking skull as far as skulls go, I also prefer the OD green. Just a thought, maybe include or substitute a steel pot with a cover in there? I'll probably buy one anyway, just leaving some feedback. http://<a href=http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j441/Larz1129/IMG_0260.jpg</a>" /> I have to agree - the skull wearing a steel pot would be excellent. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 7:48:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok went with a compromise. I took a new skull, simpler than the last for ease of print. I put Morg's Xm177 on the left. Did a muted green color and shopped it onto a patch just so you guys could see what it would look like, also inverted some of the colors to make them stand out better on the patch. I think the clarity of the rifles may suffer but they should give a good idea of what they are Clearly on an actual patch the scrolls, skull and rifles will stand out much more: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retropatchmockupfinsmall.jpg~original |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 8:44:57 PM EDT
[#32]
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I like the green one best, but with AR15 logo, but they likely won't approve it. The reticle is cool too though - maybe better, actually. I like the newer, meaner skull. My one suggestion is to have the outline of an XM177E1 or E2 on the left, and rifle on the right. Very cool idea, and I would buy a few!You read my mind! Great idea about the Pot as well.. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 8:54:10 PM EDT
[#33]
As has been stated - whatever comes out on top, I am in! Also like the shirt idea. I have used custom ink . com and they were easy to work with - made shirts for my trophy bull elk hunt a couple of years ago. It was good karma for the guys who helped me spot and successfully get my 6x7
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Posted: 12/25/2014 9:27:44 PM EDT
[#34]
Awesome Idea, I'd buy one!
vinyl stickers would be good too. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 9:53:38 PM EDT
[#35]
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I have to agree - the skull wearing a steel pot would be excellent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the more realistic looking skull as far as skulls go, I also prefer the OD green. Just a thought, maybe include or substitute a steel pot with a cover in there? I'll probably buy one anyway, just leaving some feedback. http://<a href=http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j441/Larz1129/IMG_0260.jpg</a>" /> I have to agree - the skull wearing a steel pot would be excellent. This. Doesn't seem retro to me without a piece of Vietnam issue gear, particularly the helmet. Maybe mix in a bit of Downey Jr "full retard" for good measure.
ETA: 
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:01:02 PM EDT
[#36]
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Ok went with a compromise. I took a new skull, simpler than the last for ease of print. I put Morg's Xm177 on the left. Did a muted green color and shopped it onto a patch just so you guys could see what it would look like, also inverted some of the colors to make them stand out better on the patch. I think the clarity of the rifles may suffer but they should give a good idea of what they are Clearly on an actual patch the scrolls, skull and rifles will stand out much more: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retropatchmockupfinsmall.jpg~original This one!!!!! With the bolt face instead of crosshairs |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:11:33 PM EDT
[#37]
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As has been stated - whatever comes out on top, I am in! Also like the shirt idea. ^ this and I am in on a couple at least! |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:16:07 PM EDT
[#38]
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^ this and I am in on a couple at least! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As has been stated - whatever comes out on top, I am in! Also like the shirt idea. ^ this and I am in on a couple at least! +1 I'm in for a couple too! |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:27:56 PM EDT
[#39]
Oh, yah, me too. I forgot to say I'll take a couple. Vinyl window stickers would be good, too.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:35:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok went with a compromise. I took a new skull, simpler than the last for ease of print. I put Morg's Xm177 on the left. Did a muted green color and shopped it onto a patch just so you guys could see what it would look like, also inverted some of the colors to make them stand out better on the patch. I think the clarity of the rifles may suffer but they should give a good idea of what they are Clearly on an actual patch the scrolls, skull and rifles will stand out much more: http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m140/Aeneas2020/retropatchmockupfinsmall.jpg~original  |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:31:24 PM EDT
[#41]
Id be in for a green patch I think skull with steel pot and crossed 607s would look strac
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:33:54 PM EDT
[#42]
It seems a little silly to call it retro and then put an Eotech'ish reticle on the skull.
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Posted: 12/26/2014 12:54:29 AM EDT
[#43]
Patches, tshirts and window stickers... Cool idea. Anything Retro looking to make the point. Skull in steel pot with any of the 601/2/3/4/5/7 models to clearly show the triangle hand guards. Black and white or olive drab to give the sense of being a unit patch from back in the day.
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Posted: 12/26/2014 9:18:31 AM EDT
[#44]
OD is the best color choice I believe
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:10:07 AM EDT
[#45]
Let me whip some more stuff up this evening. Thanks for the feedback guys. I have a skull wearing an M1 helmet somewhere.
There are some important decisions that need to be made though. We can get bogged down in having mean skulls and which rifles to have but if we do patches (my original plan) in all likelihood the details will be lost which is why I was trying to keep the design simple. Now...if you guys would prefer tshirts with a nice logo on it then I can really go to town. I personally prefer patches because I can wear them on my jacket or hat. I can try to come up with something that looks cool on both but just remember a 3x3 or 4x4 patch will lose a lot of the details you guys are looking for. Just FYI the reason I went for the crosshair on the skull was that I originally put the old armalite logo in there but I didn't want to run across any copyright laws on that either. I like the idea of the rear sight wheel for a larger design but I do worry on a 4x4 that it would get lost a little. Will post up some more this evening
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:31:09 AM EDT
[#46]
Work can wait...
And then just a little fun: 
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:44:16 AM EDT
[#47]
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Just FYI the reason I went for the crosshair on the skull was that I originally put the old armalite logo in there but I didn't want to run across any copyright laws on that either. I think the old Armalite logo would be the best. I remember reading something a few years ago that the copyright on that had long expired. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 11:09:58 AM EDT
[#48]
IN! Do want....
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Posted: 12/26/2014 11:25:28 AM EDT
[#49]
Nice!....starting to look much better...
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Posted: 12/26/2014 12:32:42 PM EDT
[#50]
FYI, those rifles are going to by TINY on a patch. They also look a little odd to me as vertical on a round patch- the rocker on top and bottom and the rifles on the side say "square" and leave some open chunks on the round patch. I personally would also ditch the rear sight wheel (OR, instead of a skull use the rear sight wheel!)
How about the skull with helmet and use the rifle crossed below (I would go with two M16A1's and "outline" the front one where it crosses the back one) as the crossbones. Another cool effect is to have them cut around the profile instead of being round, just like we did with the Manticore "Rocker" patches. I you want I can get the patches mocked up how I am thinking. Please take this as contstructive criticism, I think you have a great concept and just trying to help. 
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