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Posted: 10/31/2014 3:34:57 AM EDT
Good morning all.
I am going to buy a Colt SP1 dated 1964 with s/n SP04885 I have just a doubt with its safety lever which in early models should have a hole in center and with the bolt catch. Is this s/n an early or a later model instead ? Do you think these parts are original or might be replaced later on ? I am a bit confused just looking at pictures at retroblackrifle.com site ... Thank you in advance. 
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Posted: 10/31/2014 4:19:24 AM EDT
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I will try to get more and more detailed pics from the seller and I will post them so that You experts collectors can help me to evaluate if the rifle is original in all its parts.
Thank you. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 5:36:44 AM EDT
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Serial number dates this rifle to 1965.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 6:00:19 AM EDT
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Serial number dates this rifle to 1965. Thank you. Sorry my mistake. I have checked here http://www.colt.com/customerservices/serialnumberlookup.aspx Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 6:04:12 AM EDT
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Serial number dates this rifle to 1965. Correct, the safety lever would have been changed to the non-hole, the holed ones were used until Colt ran out of the old parts, also like HK45Shooter said, they had a single side hole selector in between the double end holed selector and the one on your serial numbered SP1, and those would have been used for a short time. We just had SP1#442 in here and it was November 1964, your rifle is exactly 4044 rifles newer, so it definately would have some newer parts by then. Can you please tell us if it has an Edgewater Buffer? Barrel Markings? more info on it.... You can send a letter to Colt and get a born on date letter with information about your rifle for $100.00 U.S. might be worth it for you to get one of these letters to see exactly what month of 1965 it really was born on. ETA- If possible can you post up pictures of the other side of the gun and the barrel between the FSB and the actual FSB itself. If it has an M VP 12 barrel the early ones came with cast FSB's and later came with Forged. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 6:08:16 AM EDT
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IIRC & without digging to the back of my safe to look, the selector on my 1965 SP1 has the hole on the right (ejection side) only.
ETA: Wouldn't the lower have a pinned on receiver extension on that early of a serial # though? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 6:09:07 AM EDT
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Thank you.
I wil do. I will meet the seller tomorrow. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 6:12:50 AM EDT
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IIRC & without digging to the back of my safe to look, the selector on my 1965 SP1 has the hole on the right (ejection side) only. Yeah, they started to change the selectors already by the time yours was released as it had one hole and not two (both ends), plus we know Colt loved to use up older parts until they were gone on SP1's, I had a 1967 with an early bend gastube and someone else had a 1967 and it had a later style gastube, I would have thought the early bends would have been gone by the time the MP C barrel was used on SP1's but mine had one, but who knows if the other had it's gas tube replaced at some point, but both rifles had MP C barrels. So what serial range is yours compared to the OP's thats #4086. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 6:21:50 AM EDT
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IIRC & without digging to the back of my safe to look, the selector on my 1965 SP1 has the hole on the right (ejection side) only. ETA: Wouldn't the lower have a pinned on receiver extension on that early of a serial # though? That's why I was asking about the buffer, and serial number range. When did Colt stop using Edgewaters in SP1's and stop drilling the lowers for the roll pin? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 7:23:57 AM EDT
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Here are the only pics I have at moment
The seller asked for 2,500.00 € about $ 3,250.00 including sling, bayo and bipod even if I think they have nothing to do with a SP1 which was destinated to civilian market. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 8:07:44 AM EDT
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Unless you want an SP1 for some reason you can get a real M16A1 NIB for 1400-1700€ (converted to SA of course)
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Posted: 10/31/2014 8:28:18 AM EDT
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Unless you want an SP1 for some reason you can get a real M16A1 NIB for 1400-1700€ (converted to SA of course) That's water I did I have already two NIB M16A1 coverted to SA and I payed for them less than 1.300€ each, the former from Trimex (Michele Wolff) the latter, with three prongs flash hider, from Nuova Jager. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/656864_Colt_M16A1__9_400_260_query.html I like Colt and I would like a SP1 as well in my collection which seems to be a rare model in Italy. Of course I need to check first if it was imported to Italy in the gold years, that is before 1975, otherway it's no worth to spend all that money. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:58:43 AM EDT
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I have already two NIB M16A1 coverted to SA and I payed for them less than 1.300€ each, the former from Trimex (Michele Wolff) the latter, with three prongs flash hider, from Nuova Jager. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/656864_Colt_M16A1__9_400_260_query.html I like Colt and I would like a SP1 as well in my collection which seems to be a rare model in Italy. Of course I need to check first if it was imported to Italy in the gold years, that is before 1975, otherway it's no worth to spend all that money. Salu2 a to2 Bizio Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you want an SP1 for some reason you can get a real M16A1 NIB for 1400-1700€ (converted to SA of course) That's water I did I have already two NIB M16A1 coverted to SA and I payed for them less than 1.300€ each, the former from Trimex (Michele Wolff) the latter, with three prongs flash hider, from Nuova Jager. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/656864_Colt_M16A1__9_400_260_query.html I like Colt and I would like a SP1 as well in my collection which seems to be a rare model in Italy. Of course I need to check first if it was imported to Italy in the gold years, that is before 1975, otherway it's no worth to spend all that money. Salu2 a to2 Bizio Like I said before, have Colt send you that letter with the manufacture date and details about your SP1, it's $100.00 but it's money well spent in cases like yours, and people who have C&R FFL's in ban states, because it allows the individual to buy them and have them shipped right to their house and no registry is needed. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:08:06 AM EDT
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Like I said before, have Colt send you that letter with the manufacture date and details about your SP1, it's $100.00 but it's money well spent in cases like yours, and people who have C&R FFL's in ban states, because it allows the individual to buy them and have them shipped right to their house and no registry is needed. I will do that for sure, thanks, but I have to take the decision if to buy or not the SP1 tomorrow, there are really few SP1 models around in Italy and opportunities to find another one at this price are really few. Should I send an email to Colt today with a payment of $100 when would I get their answer ? Thanks a lot for your help a good suggestions. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:15:34 AM EDT
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I will do that for sure, thanks, but I have to take the decision if to buy or not the SP1 tomorrow, there are really few SP1 models around in Italy and opportunities to find another one at this price are really few. Should I send an email to Colt today with a payment of $100 when would I get their answer ? Thanks a lot for your help a good suggestions. Salu2 a to2 Bizio Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like I said before, have Colt send you that letter with the manufacture date and details about your SP1, it's $100.00 but it's money well spent in cases like yours, and people who have C&R FFL's in ban states, because it allows the individual to buy them and have them shipped right to their house and no registry is needed. I will do that for sure, thanks, but I have to take the decision if to buy or not the SP1 tomorrow, there are really few SP1 models around in Italy and opportunities to find another one at this price are really few. Should I send an email to Colt today with a payment of $100 when would I get their answer ? Thanks a lot for your help a good suggestions. Salu2 a to2 Bizio Contact Colt today and tell them you want to purchase an authentication letter but you need to know the year your rifle was made or should I say the rifle in question. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:20:02 AM EDT
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Contact Colt today and tell them you want to purchase an authentication letter but you need to know the year your rifle was made or should I say the rifle in question. I will do that, thank you ! Their customer service should open soon I guess ... This SP1is owned by another Italian collector and it brings serial SP04114 
Source: http://forum.armietiro.it/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12145 Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:30:59 AM EDT
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I phoned to Colt Customer Service and the lady transfered me to the office which is in charge to issue authentication letters.
The man answering explained me that the authentication letter will give me generical information about the model such as barrel lenght, the number of items etc etc but not of the detailed parts which were used on a particular model in a specific year, which is the info I would like to know instead, for example safety lever, bolt carrier .... Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 11:28:04 AM EDT
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I phoned to Colt Customer Service and the lady transfered me to the office which is in charge to issue authentication letters. The man answering explained me that the authentication letter will give me generical information about the model such as barrel lenght, the number of items etc etc but not of the detailed parts which were used on a particular model in a specific year, which is the info I would like to know instead, for example safety lever, bolt carrier .... Salu2 a to2 Bizio I could of told you that, the letter is intended to tell you general information about the rifle and when it was made. Month, day and year....who it was originally sold to and that's about it. The part that's worth the money is finding out the date the rifle was assembled and left the factory. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 11:34:53 AM EDT
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I could of told you that, the letter is intended to tell you general information about the rifle and when it was made. Month, day and year....who it was originally sold to and that's about it. The part that's worth the money is finding out the date the rifle was assembled and left the factory. Undestood now. Thank you for the info. Should tomorrow buy the SP1 for sure I will ask the authentication letter to Colt. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 11:35:18 AM EDT
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If you go to the top of the retro page there is an SP1 data base. This is a list of sp1 serial numbers posted by their owners. There are only a few rifles listed in the 1964-65 date range but they will have the type information you are looking for. The rifle serial dates it to mid to late 1965. Without any more information than you have provided, most likely, the rifle would be equipped with a parkerized carrier without forward assist notches. Parkerized milled firing pin retaining pin. A chromed bolt and a Dimpled selector.
Remember though that Colt rifles do not all conform to the norm. Colt used up earlier parts on a first in last out basis. Therefore it is possible that earlier rifles will have later parts and later rifles will have earlier parts. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 11:44:30 AM EDT
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If you go to the top of the retro page there is an SP1 data base. This is a list of sp1 serial numbers posted by their owners. There are only a few rifles listed in the 1964-65 date range but they will have the type information you are looking for. The rifle serial dates it to mid to late 1965. Without any more information than you have provided, most likely, the rifle would be equipped with a parkerized carrier without forward assist notches. Parkerized milled firing pin retaining pin. A chromed bolt and a Dimpled selector. Remember though that Colt rifles do not all conform to the norm. Colt used up earlier parts on a first in last out basis. Therefore it is possible that earlier rifles will have later parts and later rifles will have earlier parts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
If you go to the top of the retro page there is an SP1 data base. This is a list of sp1 serial numbers posted by their owners. There are only a few rifles listed in the 1964-65 date range but they will have the type information you are looking for. The rifle serial dates it to mid to late 1965. Without any more information than you have provided, most likely, the rifle would be equipped with a parkerized carrier without forward assist notches. Parkerized milled firing pin retaining pin. A chromed bolt and a Dimpled selector. Remember though that Colt rifles do not all conform to the norm. Colt used up earlier parts on a first in last out basis. Therefore it is possible that earlier rifles will have later parts and later rifles will have earlier parts. Thank you ! This helps a lot. Salu2 a to2 Bizio 1965
05141 hole in selector, parked carrier with auto sear trip removed, round carrier key, chrome bolt, machined retainer, proof and M marked barrel, "polished" FSB, roll pin on front swivel 048xx M and proof marked barrel, chrome MP marked bolt, parked carrier, full auto firing pin, machined firing retainer, green buffer tube, no hole in buttstock screw, made in 1965 04240 chrome bolt, parked carrier, hole in selector, don’t see a hole in buttstock screw, black Colt's sling with no buckel 03909 chrome bolt, parked carrier, no firing pin catch on hammer, hole in selector 037xx new port door 03XXX pinned on receiver extention, hole in selector, + on lower, 03325 barrel M and proof mark, with S 12, plastic coated swivels, chrome MP marked bolt with weep hole for ejector spring, parked carrier, full auto flat headed firing pin, two stakes on carrier key bolts, carrier key round, machined parked firing retainer, early port door, + on lower, hole in selector, "polished" FSB, short disconnector, made in 1965 |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 12:31:37 PM EDT
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mine in that serial range have the selector with 2 holes. if you look at it from the top with the rifle open, it should have a ridge down the middle, you can see it was a full auto selector forging that wasn't finished out to F/A specs.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 12:43:38 PM EDT
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Thank you so much for the info.
I will check carefully tomorrow when I will see the rifle. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 4:47:11 PM EDT
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IIRC & without digging to the back of my safe to look, the selector on my 1965 SP1 has the hole on the right (ejection side) only. ETA: Wouldn't the lower have a pinned on receiver extension on that early of a serial # though? Okay, my memory is not what it used to be. My selector has the hole on both sides. Serial # is: SP026## |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 5:21:35 PM EDT
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mine in that serial range have the selector with 2 holes. if you look at it from the top with the rifle open, it should have a ridge down the middle, you can see it was a full auto selector forging that wasn't finished out to F/A specs. Boywonder, does yours look like this one? This is the selector from my late-'64 rifle (#180X). Dimpled on both sides, and the FA "fin" is nicely machined off (I assume they machined it off...unless they actually produced separate FA and SA switches, which would seem inefficient). 
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Posted: 10/31/2014 11:06:33 PM EDT
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Boywonder, does yours look like this one? This is the selector from my late-'64 rifle (#180X). Dimpled on both sides, and the FA "fin" is nicely machined off (I assume they machined it off...unless they actually produced separate FA and SA switches, which would seem inefficient). http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r500/AR10er/64SP1/dimpselec.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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mine in that serial range have the selector with 2 holes. if you look at it from the top with the rifle open, it should have a ridge down the middle, you can see it was a full auto selector forging that wasn't finished out to F/A specs. Boywonder, does yours look like this one? This is the selector from my late-'64 rifle (#180X). Dimpled on both sides, and the FA "fin" is nicely machined off (I assume they machined it off...unless they actually produced separate FA and SA switches, which would seem inefficient). http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r500/AR10er/64SP1/dimpselec.jpg yep mine look like that. i have a later 4 digit without the dimples with the same ridge so the same casting was used for a while after they stopped dimpling. |
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Posted: 11/1/2014 6:52:11 AM EDT
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I bought the SP1. Later on in the day I will post detailed pics.
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Posted: 11/1/2014 10:19:58 AM EDT
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I bought the SP1. Later on in the day I will post detailed pics. Salu2 a to2 Bizio Congrats. 
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Posted: 11/1/2014 10:24:29 AM EDT
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Thank you, HipSh0T.
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Posted: 11/1/2014 11:09:48 AM EDT
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As I promised here I am with the detailed pictures of my Colt SP1 serial # SP04885 dated 1965.
I am sorry for the low quality of pictures but I shot it in rush with my mobile phone. I authorize moderators or whoever has the privileges to do that, to store any data of my rifle, including the serial number, in the SP1 database at the top of this forum section. My SP1 brings Italian Firearms Proofmarks "XXII" which stands for 1966 which means that it was imported to Italy immediatly after it came out of factory and stored in some collection so that we can presume it came out of factory maybe towards the end of 1965. Thanks to your help I understood that most of its parts are original and time-consistent for the same serial number range but I still have some doubts about the safety lever.It might be fitted by Colt during a transiction age of production or maybe replaced along the 49 years of life of the rifle because a break or other. I got with the rifle a 20 rounds magazine, a Colt bipod #62122 (which is a bit rare to find in Italy, I only saw it on books before) an original black canvas sling (which is almost the same as the green canvas one for M1 Garand rifle), a Colt bayonet #62316 with a M8A1 scabbard. I wonder if this M8A1 scabbard is original since the only one I have seen are of WWII era and made of different staff. Thanks again to all the partecipants for your help and good suggestions. Finally here are the pictures. 
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Posted: 11/1/2014 1:01:06 PM EDT
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Looks very nice!
You are right to question the selector, looks like someone robbed the original out of it. The picture showing the right side of the receiver tells it all. The selector should not have the indicator mark on it. That is a later feature found on A2 rifles where the fire & safe is marked on both sides. Other than the selector it looks all original. Congrats on a good looking rifle. |
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Posted: 11/1/2014 1:34:07 PM EDT
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That's a nice addition to your collection Bizio
 Thank you for sharing the pics with us.
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Posted: 11/1/2014 1:39:12 PM EDT
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Thank you.
Do you think I can find on sale in USA an original selector for SP1 ? Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 11/1/2014 1:44:08 PM EDT
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Thank you. Do you think I can find on sale in USA an original selector for SP1 ? Salu2 a to2 Bizio I believe machinehead or aeyoung have the right double ended dimpled selectors for sale. They will need to be modded for use in a semi auto but they will be Colt and period correct, unlike that tick marked Semi Auto Selector someone installed. Other than the Selector, everything else looks primo. |
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Posted: 11/1/2014 1:57:48 PM EDT
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While you are looking for a new selector. It looks like you will also need a grey trigger pin. Otherwise the rifle appears to be all correct. Nice find, Congratulations!
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Posted: 11/1/2014 2:11:01 PM EDT
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Thank you. If some of You wants to help me to fiind those parts and ship them to me to Italy can please contact me to bacardi[@]tin.it
I would really appreciate Your help. Thank you. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 11/1/2014 4:30:10 PM EDT
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VERY nice looking peashooter ya got there Mac!
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Posted: 11/1/2014 9:05:46 PM EDT
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While you are looking for a new selector. It looks like you will also need a grey trigger pin. Otherwise the rifle appears to be all correct. Nice find, Congratulations! I have already at home two dark gray pins I had removed from one of my Bushmaster when I installed CMC Trigger group so I could immediately replace it in my SP1. Thanks for letting me note that. I also have an original M16 FA selector without the indicator mark. Can it fit a SA SP1 or must it be necessarely modified before in order to work properly ? Thanks. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 1:07:09 AM EDT
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I believe machinehead or aeyoung have the right double ended dimpled selectors for sale. They will need to be modded for use in a semi auto but they will be Colt and period correct, unlike that tick marked Semi Auto Selector someone installed. Other than the Selector, everything else looks primo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you. Do you think I can find on sale in USA an original selector for SP1 ? Salu2 a to2 Bizio I believe machinehead or aeyoung have the right double ended dimpled selectors for sale. They will need to be modded for use in a semi auto but they will be Colt and period correct, unlike that tick marked Semi Auto Selector someone installed. Other than the Selector, everything else looks primo. Unfortunatly machinehead and aeyoung have no longer any 601 model selector. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 8:50:47 AM EDT
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I have already at home two dark gray pins I had removed from one of my Bushmaster when I installed CMC Trigger group so I could immediately replace it in my SP1. Thanks for letting me note that. I also have an original M16 FA selector without the indicator mark. Can it fit a SA SP1 or must it be necessarely modified before in order to work properly ? Thanks. Salu2 a to2 Bizio Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While you are looking for a new selector. It looks like you will also need a grey trigger pin. Otherwise the rifle appears to be all correct. Nice find, Congratulations! I have already at home two dark gray pins I had removed from one of my Bushmaster when I installed CMC Trigger group so I could immediately replace it in my SP1. Thanks for letting me note that. I also have an original M16 FA selector without the indicator mark. Can it fit a SA SP1 or must it be necessarely modified before in order to work properly ? Thanks. Salu2 a to2 Bizio That's unfortunate about machinehead and aeyoung selling out of their early selectors so quickly. You need to Modify the FA Selector by removing the shark fin in the center of the Colt FA selector to get it to work in a Semi auto. It's a modification that's so easy you can do it with hand tools or a Dremel tool. Of course it takes 30 seconds with the Dremel and 5 minutes with hand tools/files. Here's a picture of how to do the Mod yourself, You need to remove the shark fin in the center of the FA section, just grind it flat to look like the one on the right. It's the same picture I used as a reference when I modded my first M16 Selector, after you do one you'll never need the picture again. 
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Posted: 11/2/2014 9:24:30 AM EDT
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Thank you again for the info.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:10:58 AM EDT
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Thank you to all you for your help and suggestions.
Member John Thomas ( retroarmsworks.com ) is helping me a lot making a dimpled selector for my SP1 starting his work from a brand new AR15 safety/selector. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:36:05 AM EDT
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Thank you to all you for your help and suggestions. Member John Thomas ( retroarmsworks.com ) is helping me a lot making a dimpled selector for my SP1 starting his work from a brand new AR15 safety/selector. Salu2 a to2 Bizio When you get it, you won't even be able to tell it's an older AR15 or M16 Selector. You'll be very happy, John does fantastic work. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:47:23 AM EDT
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I saw a picture of some dimpled selectors and pins he did. Real excellent works !
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Posted: 11/4/2014 2:48:47 PM EDT
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Again, very nice rifle.
Did the bayonet and bipod come with the package? Reason I ask is the bipod case DSA number contains 69 for 1969, and the bayonet is of a later make. Looks like one of the bayonets from the German stockpile a few years back. Nice bayonets, but not correct to your rifle probably, since they were made in the 1970s. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 3:03:36 PM EDT
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Thank you.
Yes, they came with the same package but I was sure that the previous owner made a mix of items without caring too much of the different years of make. I think that the only item which really came with the rifle in 1965 was the black canvas sling. I added the bipod and the bayonet to my collection of USGI items WWII and later. Here are some pictures of my collection 
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Posted: 11/5/2014 1:06:04 PM EDT
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You can send a letter to Colt and get a born on date letter with information about your rifle for $100.00 U.S. might be worth it for you to get one of these letters to see exactly what month of 1965 it really was born on. I just did that today sending an email with all my rifle datas to Mr. Joe Canali at Colt’s Manufacturing Company. Thanks again. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 1:38:46 PM EDT
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Very Nice Collection, and good luck with everything.
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Posted: 11/5/2014 1:43:34 PM EDT
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Very Nice Collection, and good luck with everything. Thank you, HipSh0T, and you too. Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 2:16:02 PM EDT
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Thank you. Yes, they came with the same package but I was sure that the previous owner made a mix of items without caring too much of the different years of make. I think that the only item which really came with the rifle in 1965 was the black canvas sling. I added the bipod and the bayonet to my collection of USGI items WWII and later. Here are some pictures of my collection https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/p417x417/321399_10200475957011322_2094049092_n.jpg?oh=d348f8a63279f00e21f2af11579ea988&oe=54D685DE&__gda__=1424585960_1ee027df624a39c9a249d2807cb089c4 https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/22107_10200475956811317_1083111230_n.jpg?oh=0d2b5af86cee8fd3d259a89cf390887f&oe=54F275C0&__gda__=1424107753_3f115e348ae9d34be81f26a549bdf51c https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/v/t1.0-9/538975_10200475957851343_1254021167_n.jpg?oh=f7155fb75917cb29b22807d0b3218540&oe=54E40129&__gda__=1424585190_dcc93620b985d836661b05bccb7acea7 Salu2 a to2 Bizio Bizio, I was not meaning to sound so negative about the accessories - Just wanted to share info. I have both of those same items in my collection too. And you have some other really cool looking items in your U.S. Militaria cabinet. And, did I mention that is a really NICE SP1 ? |
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Posted: 11/5/2014 2:27:06 PM EDT
[#50]
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Bizio, I was not meaning to sound so negative about the accessories - Just wanted to share info. I have both of those same items in my collection too. And you have some other really cool looking items in your U.S. Militaria cabinet. And, did I mention that is a really NICE SP1 ? You did not sound negative at all, yankee-V ! On the contrary I really appreciated the info you gave me about those accessories. As I sayd, I suspected already that the previous owner of my SP1 could have done a bad mix of accessories for thar rifle. Many Italian collectors, without getting the correct infos reading books or browsing the net, use to make such kind of mix. This happens not only with accessories but with rifle parts as well. For example it is quite easy to find here some Springfield M1903 or M1 Garand rifles which have been assembled with parts coming from different rifles, different brands and different year of make. We usually call them "frankenstein".
And, yes, you said already my SP1 is nice. Thank you again
ETA : I think my Colt #62316 bayonet is still made by Colt in USA. The M7 bayonets made in Germany under Colt license had a different marking on the blade 
http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/m4_thru_m7_series/m4_m7_series_p3.html Salu2 a to2 Bizio |
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