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Posted: 10/23/2014 10:21:52 AM EDT
I've come across a m16a1 that is missing the entire selector switch block and pins, are these easy to find?  I dont know a ton about the part side of these guns, so I'm not sure if I'm buying a paperweight or an easily fixable gun.  Any advice is helpful.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 10:51:55 AM EDT
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Easy but if a semi, you can put AR15 selector in and itll work great.


Link Posted: 10/23/2014 10:57:45 AM EDT
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First, welcome to the forum.  Lots of good info here and good guys.

Second - pictures really help.  M16 selectors are easy enough to find, Not sure what pins you mean though.  Sounds like maybe Fire Control Group?  Does it have a trigger intact?

EDIT - on re-reading it makes me think maybe you have a hole for the auto sear?  Be cautious if this is an original lower that can be completed as a machine gun.  Stay away if proper paperwork doesnt exist.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 11:17:44 AM EDT
[#3]
I think I may have seen that same auction listing for a registered retro M16A1 w/sear hole but missing the fire control components.  If purchased, you should be able to source the appropriate FC parts without issue.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 11:32:59 AM EDT
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I think I may have seen that same auction listing for a registered retro M16A1 w/sear hole but missing the fire control components.  If purchased, you should be able to source the appropriate FC parts without issue.
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The ones on proxybid.  Just noticed it jumped up an extra 4k.

Soon that auction buyers premium and internet premium will make it not worth it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 12:24:30 PM EDT
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Yeah its the one on proxibid.  

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=915&aid=86007&lid=21624075&rts=/asp/searchadvanced_i.asp%23searchTerm%3Dm16a1%26firstSearch%3Dtrue%26category%3Dall%2Bcategories%26searchid%3D%26type%3Dlot%26search%3Dm16a1%26sort%3Drelevance%26length%3D25%26start%3D1%26refine%3D%26nc%3D1414073171995#
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 12:43:41 PM EDT
[#6]
about 150 dollars (give or take a few) for the needed parts, and they are easy enough to come across.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 4:40:14 PM EDT
[#7]
some strange auction rules:

The auction company gets to bid on their own, or the seller's, behalf.

The auction company gets to see the max amount specified for all pre-bids registered.

Sold AS-IS, no inspection and refusal period, so be sure you attend the preview, apparently.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 5:45:34 PM EDT
[#8]
It looks like its missing charge handle too so probably no bold carrier either basacially no internals ..  It will sell for ridiculous money  !
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 6:17:29 PM EDT
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If you're buying an auto M16 you're generally paying for the lower and it's designation as a machine gun, all the other parts are cheap comparatively.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 12:32:06 AM EDT
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Seems to me that someone picked up a registered lower and slapped the upper and buttstock on it. Not that I have anything specific to base that on, other than the pics. If I had the money to bid, I would probably be shopping elsewhere. Not a bad item (the lower), just don't like the setup.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 6:45:30 AM EDT
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Yeah its the one on proxibid.  

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=915&aid=86007&lid=21624075&rts=/asp/searchadvanced_i.asp%23searchTerm%3Dm16a1%26firstSearch%3Dtrue%26category%3Dall%2Bcategories%26searchid%3D%26type%3Dlot%26search%3Dm16a1%26sort%3Drelevance%26length%3D25%26start%3D1%26refine%3D%26nc%3D1414073171995#
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https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=915&aid=86007&lid=21624075&rts=/asp/searchadvanced_i.asp%23searchTerm%3Dm16a1%26firstSearch%3Dtrue%26category%3Dall%2Bcategories%26searchid%3D%26type%3Dlot%26search%3Dm16a1%26sort%3Drelevance%26length%3D25%26start%3D1%26refine%3D%26nc%3D1414073171995#

Looks like your missing the pistol grip assembly, Fire Control Group with pins, Full Auto Selector, auto sear, and is there anything else missing inside the rifle when you take it down?


ETA - Good news is if thats all your missing, the replacement parts shouldn't cost over $100.00 to replace, many members or vendors on here can sell you what you need. You made a smart purchase if everything is functionable, these things are bringing north of $20K these days, I'd say you did very well..
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 9:41:30 AM EDT
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https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=915&aid=86007&lid=21624075&rts=/asp/searchadvanced_i.asp%23searchTerm%3Dm16a1%26firstSearch%3Dtrue%26category%3Dall%2Bcategories%26searchid%3D%26type%3Dlot%26search%3Dm16a1%26sort%3Drelevance%26length%3D25%26start%3D1%26refine%3D%26nc%3D1414073171995#

Looks like your missing the pistol grip assembly, Fire Control Group with pins, Full Auto Selector, auto sear, and is there anything else missing inside the rifle when you take it down?


ETA - Good news is if thats all your missing, the replacement parts shouldn't cost over $100.00 to replace, many members or vendors on here can sell you what you need. You made a smart purchase if everything is functionable, these things are bringing north of $20K these days, I'd say you did very well..
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Yeah its the one on proxibid.  

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=915&aid=86007&lid=21624075&rts=/asp/searchadvanced_i.asp%23searchTerm%3Dm16a1%26firstSearch%3Dtrue%26category%3Dall%2Bcategories%26searchid%3D%26type%3Dlot%26search%3Dm16a1%26sort%3Drelevance%26length%3D25%26start%3D1%26refine%3D%26nc%3D1414073171995#


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https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=915&aid=86007&lid=21624075&rts=/asp/searchadvanced_i.asp%23searchTerm%3Dm16a1%26firstSearch%3Dtrue%26category%3Dall%2Bcategories%26searchid%3D%26type%3Dlot%26search%3Dm16a1%26sort%3Drelevance%26length%3D25%26start%3D1%26refine%3D%26nc%3D1414073171995#

Looks like your missing the pistol grip assembly, Fire Control Group with pins, Full Auto Selector, auto sear, and is there anything else missing inside the rifle when you take it down?


ETA - Good news is if thats all your missing, the replacement parts shouldn't cost over $100.00 to replace, many members or vendors on here can sell you what you need. You made a smart purchase if everything is functionable, these things are bringing north of $20K these days, I'd say you did very well..


9:40 am., Friday..............OP hasn't won the auction yet, has he?   I click on the link and it shows 5+ hours remaining.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 11:06:46 AM EDT
[#13]
Even with the 16% added, and the 6% tax, its not too bad a total right now.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 1:43:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Seeing that the lower is pretty much stripped, I'd bet good money that this will end up being an M4gery unless a retro guy gets it.

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 3:33:59 PM EDT
[#15]
$22,750.00 (plus premium).

It sold for more than a Hollywood AR10 in 98% condition.

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 3:35:07 PM EDT
[#16]
Well I got it, being US property marked, what do you think?  All in $25K.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 4:15:45 PM EDT
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I think you did just fine! If I had 25K in expendable income I would have done it in a heartbeat!!!!! (That is probably why I don't have 25K in expendable income)



Now the real question is...... Are you willing to really fix it up like the retro rifles we build? I mean re-finish it, the whole 9 yards. You have the real deal, now take the hobby a step further. Make it look like a brand new M16!!! That would be truly awesome :)
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 4:22:12 PM EDT
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But I do hope either way you keep it retro M16A1! Good score!
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 6:45:12 PM EDT
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I think congratulations are in order.  What I'm about to say is blasphemy but here goes............I love me a retro M16, but that lower would also be correct for a "real deal" Mk18 build, if OP tends towards more modern builds.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:29:53 PM EDT
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Congrads  Did you see that camo SGW Olympic sold for 10200 I guess everyone was scared of the camo   .
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:30:06 PM EDT
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I think congratulations are in order.  What I'm about to say is blasphemy but here goes............I love me a retro M16, but that lower would also be correct for a "real deal" Mk18 build, if OP tends towards more modern builds.
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Well I got it, being US property marked, what do you think?  All in $25K.


I think congratulations are in order.  What I'm about to say is blasphemy but here goes............I love me a retro M16, but that lower would also be correct for a "real deal" Mk18 build, if OP tends towards more modern builds.




 












I vote Keepin it Real Retro!
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:50:34 PM EDT
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Well I got it, being US property marked, what do you think?  All in $25K.

I think congratulations are in order.  What I'm about to say is blasphemy but here goes............I love me a retro M16, but that lower would also be correct for a "real deal" Mk18 build, if OP tends towards more modern builds.

 


http://www.motivationals.org/demotivational-posters-2/demotivational-poster-49697.jpg


I vote Keepin it Real Retro!

Well. The bad news for us is..........when you spend the coin to buy a registered lower you don't have to put the outcome up to a vote.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:07:03 PM EDT
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Aint it the truth!



Wouldn't be the first time I wasted a vote!
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:26:15 PM EDT
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Well I got it, being US property marked, what do you think?  All in $25K.

I think congratulations are in order.  What I'm about to say is blasphemy but here goes............I love me a retro M16, but that lower would also be correct for a "real deal" Mk18 build, if OP tends towards more modern builds.

 


http://www.motivationals.org/demotivational-posters-2/demotivational-poster-49697.jpg


I vote Keepin it Real Retro!


She turned me into a newt.

A newt??

...I got better.



The way I see it is... if one could afford a RR, one could afford various uppers to have fun with.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:37:17 PM EDT
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Congrats, OP. I was a naysayer, but you got a great retro reg rec there.

Let us see more pics as you complete its restoration.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:49:04 PM EDT
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Um................arent M16's going for $15k, fully assembled?



Seller could have at least got it to 100% assemboed and test fired it first.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 9:00:01 PM EDT
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Um................arent M16's going for $15k, fully assembled?

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Converted receivers were going for around $15K last time I looked.

Colt M16's 18-20K +


ETA: looks like more than that now...
http://dealernfa.com/shop/category/colt/


Plus it is a less commonly seen U.S. property marked lower, but yeah kind of bogus they didn't provide a complete weapon

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