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Just finished this weekend. Can't wait to hit the range! (hoping tomorrow)
PSA Lower Radical Arms LPK Spikes buffer tube (unknown buffer & spring) Sig Brace Aero 10.5" upper with Aero Flash Can (carbine gas) Knock off Noveske NSR rail BCM BCG w/Mod3 charging handle Magpul BUIS PA Micro AR Pistol by Pyzik, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted By Pyzik:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qnCZfu" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8649/15997425468_66a23319c1_b.jpg</a> AR Pistol by Pyzik, on Flickr View Quote Nice pic! Who makes the knock-off Noveske rail? Or is there no badge/label? |
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Originally Posted By ebr_citizen:
Nice pic! Who makes the knock-off Noveske rail? Or is there no badge/label? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ebr_citizen:
Originally Posted By Pyzik:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qnCZfu" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8649/15997425468_66a23319c1_b.jpg</a> AR Pistol by Pyzik, on Flickr Nice pic! Who makes the knock-off Noveske rail? Or is there no badge/label? There is no badging but did some looking and I am pretty sure it's GunTec. I paid $80 at a show. http://www.guntecusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=662 I used the word knock off because I think the term "clone" would have been too kind. The anodizing isn't great but it is even. The 1913 top rail is slightly out of spec (everything I put on I have to tighten down further than on my BCM with an actual NSR). Haven't tested the keymod spec yet. No spare keymod accessories as the moment. The rail itself seems to be more "flexible" than the real NSR as well. I can push it off center at the muzzle, however with the flash can installed there is only a 1/16" of play so no biggie. All that being said... It's locked down tight and appears to be good good enough to stand up. |
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very nice looking piece!!!
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Neat....That handguard in mid length is pretty reasonably priced and looks spiffy.
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Just another GoodGuy with a gun
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Originally Posted By farrar999:
Say Hello to "Little Rusty" http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag63/farrar999duc/DSCN8254_zpsbc2f8201.jpg http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag63/farrar999duc/DSCN8253_zpsd242e9d2.jpg https://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag63/farrar999duc/DSCN8255_zps20c727da.jpg View Quote Thats pretty crazy. Looks great |
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Our revolution will have been in vain if a Virginia farmer is held in hock to a New York stock jobber, who is in hock to a London banker. The opportunities for corruption would prove irresistible.
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Beautiful paint on that pistol.
It's nice to see work that's outside the norm. |
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Thanks guys! It's a Cerakote finish in a grunge camo pattern. The colors are burnt bronze, graphite black, stealth grey.
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Please explain the rear sight ahead of the optic here:
Originally Posted By jonwienke: My "Democrat voter" AR pistol build in 300BLK--black, brown, and undocumented. http://visual-vacations.com/images/2015-01-10_113248.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By tbirdstud86:
Please explain the rear sight ahead of the optic here: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tbirdstud86:
Please explain the rear sight ahead of the optic here: Originally Posted By jonwienke:
My "Democrat voter" AR pistol build in 300BLK--black, brown, and undocumented. http://visual-vacations.com/images/2015-01-10_113248.JPG Having the rear sight too far back is actually a detriment to accurate sighting. The sights are Troy Micros with tritium inserts. The tritium inserts are the same diameter on the front and the rear sights. When focusing on the front sight post, if you have the rear sight in the normal position at the rear of the rail right next to the charging handle, the rear sight inserts blur to about 5x the diameter of the front sight insert. But with the rear sight where it is, the inserts blur to about 2x the size of the front sight insert. You're giving up about 33% of the sight radius, but gaining over 200% ability to see the rear sight clearly. It's a net gain overall. Also, when you put any optic between the front and rear sights, you change the point of aim slightly. The amount is small for many optics if they are exactly 1x, but if they are not exactly 1x, they can change the point of aim by several MOA because the view of the front sight and target is altered by the refraction of light passing through the optic, but view of the rear sight is not. Having the optic behind the irons cancels this effect out, because any refraction of light passing through the optic affects the view of the target, front sight, and rear sight equally. |
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Originally Posted By jonwienke:
Having the rear sight too far back is actually a detriment to accurate sighting. The sights are Troy Micros with tritium inserts. The tritium inserts are the same diameter on the front and the rear sights. When focusing on the front sight post, if you have the rear sight in the normal position at the rear of the rail right next to the charging handle, the rear sight inserts blur to about 5x the diameter of the front sight insert. But with the rear sight where it is, the inserts blur to about 2x the size of the front sight insert. You're giving up about 33% of the sight radius, but gaining over 200% ability to see the rear sight clearly. It's a net gain overall. Also, when you put any optic between the front and rear sights, you change the point of aim slightly. The amount is small for many optics if they are exactly 1x, but if they are not exactly 1x, they can change the point of aim by several MOA because the view of the front sight and target is altered by the refraction of light passing through the optic, but view of the rear sight is not. Having the optic behind the irons cancels this effect out, because any refraction of light passing through the optic affects the view of the target, front sight, and rear sight equally. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jonwienke:
Originally Posted By tbirdstud86:
Please explain the rear sight ahead of the optic here: Originally Posted By jonwienke:
My "Democrat voter" AR pistol build in 300BLK--black, brown, and undocumented. http://visual-vacations.com/images/2015-01-10_113248.JPG Having the rear sight too far back is actually a detriment to accurate sighting. The sights are Troy Micros with tritium inserts. The tritium inserts are the same diameter on the front and the rear sights. When focusing on the front sight post, if you have the rear sight in the normal position at the rear of the rail right next to the charging handle, the rear sight inserts blur to about 5x the diameter of the front sight insert. But with the rear sight where it is, the inserts blur to about 2x the size of the front sight insert. You're giving up about 33% of the sight radius, but gaining over 200% ability to see the rear sight clearly. It's a net gain overall. Also, when you put any optic between the front and rear sights, you change the point of aim slightly. The amount is small for many optics if they are exactly 1x, but if they are not exactly 1x, they can change the point of aim by several MOA because the view of the front sight and target is altered by the refraction of light passing through the optic, but view of the rear sight is not. Having the optic behind the irons cancels this effect out, because any refraction of light passing through the optic affects the view of the target, front sight, and rear sight equally. I'm not buying all this. DannerTrax |
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Originally Posted By jonwienke:
My "Democrat voter" AR pistol build in 300BLK--black, brown, and undocumented. http://visual-vacations.com/images/2015-01-10_113248.JPG View Quote Nice pistol. Extra points for the offhand thinly veiled rhetoric. |
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Our revolution will have been in vain if a Virginia farmer is held in hock to a New York stock jobber, who is in hock to a London banker. The opportunities for corruption would prove irresistible.
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Originally Posted By DannerTrax:
I'm not buying all this. DannerTrax View Quote Try this: Have the gun immobilized in a rest or on sandbags while sighting at a target. Put a lens between your front and rear sights. Note that as you move the lens around, the apparent position of the front sight will change, as well as the relationship between the front sight and target when viewed through the rear sight. But if you put the lens behind the rear sight any distortions created by the lens affect both sights and the target equally. |
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Originally Posted By jonwienke:
Try this: Have the gun immobilized in a rest or on sandbags while sighting at a target. Put a lens between your front and rear sights. Note that as you move the lens around, the apparent position of the front sight will change, as well as the relationship between the front sight and target when viewed through the rear sight. But if you put the lens behind the rear sight any distortions created by the lens affect both sights and the target equally. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jonwienke:
Originally Posted By DannerTrax:
I'm not buying all this. DannerTrax Try this: Have the gun immobilized in a rest or on sandbags while sighting at a target. Put a lens between your front and rear sights. Note that as you move the lens around, the apparent position of the front sight will change, as well as the relationship between the front sight and target when viewed through the rear sight. But if you put the lens behind the rear sight any distortions created by the lens affect both sights and the target equally. BUIS aren't meant to be used through an optic. They make QD mounts so that if the optic fails it can be removed quickly and then the BUIS can be used. And if you seem to think a shorter sight radius is better (which is 100% the opposite of what EVERYONE else says) why don't you flip your front sight around the correct way and make it even shorter? |
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Originally Posted By castiel:
BUIS aren't meant to be used through an optic. They make QD mounts so that if the optic fails it can be removed quickly and then the BUIS can be used. View Quote On a magnified optic, sure. On an Eotech with zero distortion, there is no affect between having it mounted or removed. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
On a magnified optic, sure. On an Eotech with zero distortion, there is no affect between having it mounted or removed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By castiel:
BUIS aren't meant to be used through an optic. They make QD mounts so that if the optic fails it can be removed quickly and then the BUIS can be used. On a magnified optic, sure. On an Eotech with zero distortion, there is no affect between having it mounted or removed. True, which makes his argument even less valid. |
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Originally Posted By castiel:
And if you seem to think a shorter sight radius is better (which is 100% the opposite of what EVERYONE else says) why don't you flip your front sight around the correct way and make it even shorter? View Quote You need to improve your reading comprehension. Longer is better, up to a point. But when lengthening the sight radius by 50% increases the blurring of the rear sight by 150%, it's past the point at which it helps. The sweet spot for the rear sight is closer to the front of the receiver than the rear. |
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Originally Posted By jonwienke:
You need to improve your reading comprehension. Longer is better, up to a point. But when lengthening the sight radius by 50% increases the blurring of the rear sight by 150%, it's past the point at which it helps. The sweet spot for the rear sight is closer to the front of the receiver than the rear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jonwienke:
Originally Posted By castiel:
And if you seem to think a shorter sight radius is better (which is 100% the opposite of what EVERYONE else says) why don't you flip your front sight around the correct way and make it even shorter? You need to improve your reading comprehension. Longer is better, up to a point. But when lengthening the sight radius by 50% increases the blurring of the rear sight by 150%, it's past the point at which it helps. The sweet spot for the rear sight is closer to the front of the receiver than the rear. Different strokes I guess. The rest of us with decent eyes will keep them at the back. The further forward you go with a closed sight, the more the rear obscures your actual target. |
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Originally Posted By jonwienke:
You need to improve your reading comprehension. Longer is better, up to a point. But when lengthening the sight radius by 50% increases the blurring of the rear sight by 150%, it's past the point at which it helps. The sweet spot for the rear sight is closer to the front of the receiver than the rear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jonwienke:
Originally Posted By castiel:
And if you seem to think a shorter sight radius is better (which is 100% the opposite of what EVERYONE else says) why don't you flip your front sight around the correct way and make it even shorter? You need to improve your reading comprehension. Longer is better, up to a point. But when lengthening the sight radius by 50% increases the blurring of the rear sight by 150%, it's past the point at which it helps. The sweet spot for the rear sight is closer to the front of the receiver than the rear. And how exactly are you measuring how much the rear sight "blurs"? You're not supposed to even see it at all, that's the point. It is supposed to be close to your eye so that it essentially disappears and all you see is the front sight. |
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Jon must be trolling. Nobody is that ass backwards.
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I've been admiring all the sweet pistols in this thread, but I've gotta ask....I've noticed some of them have fwd vertical grips installed....I thought that was illegal on an AR pistol?...am I misinformed?
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Originally Posted By AirMech74:
I've been admiring all the sweet pistols in this thread, but I've gotta ask....I've noticed some of them have fwd vertical grips installed....I thought that was illegal on an AR pistol?...am I misinformed? View Quote If the overall length is less than 26", you cannot have a vertical forward grip without making it an AOW per the ATF. If the overall length is 26"+, a vertical grip creates a "firearm" which is not a regulated NFA item per the ATF. |
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Originally Posted By Pyzik:
There is no badging but did some looking and I am pretty sure it's GunTec. I paid $80 at a show. http://www.guntecusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=662 I used the word knock off because I think the term "clone" would have been too kind. The anodizing isn't great but it is even. The 1913 top rail is slightly out of spec (everything I put on I have to tighten down further than on my BCM with an actual NSR). Haven't tested the keymod spec yet. No spare keymod accessories as the moment. The rail itself seems to be more "flexible" than the real NSR as well. I can push it off center at the muzzle, however with the flash can installed there is only a 1/16" of play so no biggie. All that being said... It's locked down tight and appears to be good good enough to stand up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Pyzik:
Originally Posted By ebr_citizen:
Originally Posted By Pyzik:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qnCZfu" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8649/15997425468_66a23319c1_b.jpg</a> AR Pistol by Pyzik, on Flickr Nice pic! Who makes the knock-off Noveske rail? Or is there no badge/label? There is no badging but did some looking and I am pretty sure it's GunTec. I paid $80 at a show. http://www.guntecusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=662 I used the word knock off because I think the term "clone" would have been too kind. The anodizing isn't great but it is even. The 1913 top rail is slightly out of spec (everything I put on I have to tighten down further than on my BCM with an actual NSR). Haven't tested the keymod spec yet. No spare keymod accessories as the moment. The rail itself seems to be more "flexible" than the real NSR as well. I can push it off center at the muzzle, however with the flash can installed there is only a 1/16" of play so no biggie. All that being said... It's locked down tight and appears to be good good enough to stand up. That is good to hear. I have a 7" that should be showing up today. |
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Originally Posted By JASIRR:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/broussard_w/BBQ1/IMG_20150113_172258451_zpsjegmyo02.jpg View Quote Are these both from RF or builds? How do you like the one with the seekins rail, that is the one I am thinking about picking up. |
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The one in the background is the $599 deal RF had last year. It's a 5.56 and shoots great. It was a complete gun from RF. I posted in the PA/RF thread that it consistently hit a metal plate at 228 yards 12 times in a row with a fairly rapid fire. The one in the foreground is a RF upper in .300 blk. I bought the upper and pistol buffer from RF, built the lower on a blem PSA and finished with a AIM BCG. This upper was supposed to have the Hybrid Seekins/RF rail but it shipped with the Seekins MCSR V2 Mod Rail. Customer service was great about the mix up and we got it worked out. I'm keeping the MCSR V2 Mod Rail. I just got it put together so I haven't shot it yet. I'll report back when I do.
Originally Posted By ManDown:
Are these both from RF or builds? How do you like the one with the seekins rail, that is the one I am thinking about picking up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ManDown:
Originally Posted By JASIRR:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/broussard_w/BBQ1/IMG_20150113_172258451_zpsjegmyo02.jpg Are these both from RF or builds? How do you like the one with the seekins rail, that is the one I am thinking about picking up. |
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PWS 9.75 300 BLKOUT UPPER
ADDAX TACTICAL LOWER PRIMARY ARMS RD-AMS PRIMARY ARMS 6X MAGNIFIER LANCO TACTICAL GRIP STOP NOVESKE NSR HANDSTOP ARMASPEC MAGWELL GRIP R-23 http://i.imgur.com/fFNhAZG.jpg?1 |
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Originally Posted By Mike111:
Here's my 1st frankenbuilt pistol. Truly happy with this setup. View Quote The hand stop is backwards, It's supposed to keep your hand a safe distance behind the muzzle so that muzzle blast doesn't peel the meat off the bone when you fire a round. The hook points aft, not forward. If you're gripping the gun in front of the hand stop, you're lucky you haven't already damaged or destroyed a finger. |
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Originally Posted By jonwienke:
The hand stop is backwards, It's supposed to keep your hand a safe distance behind the muzzle so that muzzle blast doesn't peel the meat off the bone when you fire a round. The hook points aft, not forward. If you're gripping the gun in front of the hand stop, you're lucky you haven't already damaged or destroyed a finger. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jonwienke:
Originally Posted By Mike111:
Here's my 1st frankenbuilt pistol. Truly happy with this setup. The hand stop is backwards, It's supposed to keep your hand a safe distance behind the muzzle so that muzzle blast doesn't peel the meat off the bone when you fire a round. The hook points aft, not forward. If you're gripping the gun in front of the hand stop, you're lucky you haven't already damaged or destroyed a finger. He's probably using it as an index finger hook, not a hand stop. |
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