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IL, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2004 4:16:14 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight...............
Since mine seems to be really tight, and the bolt sometimes gets stuck towards the tube, shill I get the spring also? |
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Posted: 10/11/2004 2:43:32 PM EDT
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My carrier touches the bottom of the buffer tube when it is all the way back. That's why I oiled the tube well. Getting the spring *wouldn't hurt*. Is it the fix all for the AR pistol...don't know. When other people get it, fit it and test it, we'll know then......
Isn't today a Federal holiday? Some banks are closed.....is it the same for the post office??? Worst case senario, you go to a local gun shop and see if they have any long slide 1911 springs.....  
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2004 2:53:09 PM EDT
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What is the EXACT part number from Brownells for the long slide spring?
TIA MadDog760 |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2004 3:30:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Noner]
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Thats the sad part, Brownells doesnt carry the individual springs that we need... but they do carry the "bulk" pack of all 5 different springs... 969-131-110 Extra Power Function Pak Click here for the Link to Brownells -Jason |
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Posted: 10/11/2004 4:00:38 PM EDT
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Yup, I ran to Brownells too...and saw it ws a pack..... |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2004 10:48:51 PM EDT
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Now THAT's gonna make the 45.00 pistol buffer assembly kinda high! I was hoping for the 9.00 fix. That makes the ACE CAR buffer tube with no holes for the telestock look better and better! Then I could open the pisol without screwing with the pistol buffer tube...
Thanks for the answer gentlemen! MadDog(760) |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2004 3:23:24 PM EDT
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Got the spring today!!
I didnt mesure it, but its HUGE compared to the stock spring.. I just kept cutting untill the bolt is able to lock back, and I wont trim anymore untill I am able to test fire. I figure that the bolt has to be able to lock back, so any amount I trim upto that point is good, any additional amount, maybe heading into unknown territory.. -Jason |
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Posted: 10/15/2004 3:21:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kaliburz]
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Told ya it was a big spring. At least it made it before you left for your trip. Another person w/ an AR pistol posted in the other thread they accelerated break in w/ use of rubbing compound. Pistol functioned w/ the original spring..... granted, one shouldn't have to do this type of extream work. The spring is a cheap, easy fix for people who want to get the pistol up and running. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2004 9:00:06 AM EDT
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2004 9:11:57 AM EDT
[#10]
heres mine
  runs great |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2004 10:11:50 AM EDT
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Was just looking at my AR pistol and some parts I have lying around. As far as I can tell putting a CAR buffer tube on it would work as long as you didn't use the stock. Might be a good idea to disable the tube so you can't readily slip a stock on it. I also was looking at a post ban fixed telestock with a full length tube. If you can use a tele stock tube with the stock part removed, why not a full length tube, say from a postban fixed telestock. I know that kinda defeats the purpose of it being a pistol but it would make it a legal pistol and not a SBR, and in my state allows it to be carried under our CCW permit. (Not that I would carry it, but it would be nice to have in the car legally when I wanted to)
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Posted: 10/15/2004 3:38:50 PM EDT
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Is that their "no ban" upper? Is it facotry or is that a self modified.... |
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Posted: 10/15/2004 5:31:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Big-Bore]
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Finally done and worth posting with the Beta mag.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2004 9:08:52 PM EDT
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HOLY JEBUS! what the..... another shocking post sunset pistol monstrosity... -Jason |
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Posted: 10/18/2004 11:37:31 PM EDT
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Well Noner? Did the spring work? I don't recall you mentioning it.... all I know is it arrived before you left.....
Or was that someone else I'm thiniking of? So many saying they ordered a spring...... |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 12:10:47 AM EDT
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Didnt get a chance to test the spring, ended up going deer hunting for the weekend, and decided that an AR15 pistola would scare the deer........
 I'll have a chance to test the spring this week, and I'll post a few more action shots showing the good work...... -Jason |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 12:15:29 AM EDT
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Can someone give me dealers / info on how I can obtain a stripped lowered registered as a pistol?
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Posted: 10/19/2004 1:30:37 AM EDT
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First of all, find a transfer dealer who will do an AR stripped lower as a pistol. Some don't like to do it... as in have a problem...don't ask me why. Two ways you can do it: 1) Contact CMMG and buy their stripped "pistol" lower for $XXX..... have them sent it to your transfer FFL and they do the state and 4473 from. 2) Contact Eaglefirearms tell them it's for a pistol...they know the drill.... buy a stripped Stag or RRA lower and tell them to invoice it as a pistol lower. Transfer to FFL, and have them do 4473 and state form. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 1:38:35 AM EDT
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Or.... Buy a MEGA lower from IBLIS at the Puyallup show...... -Jason |
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Posted: 10/19/2004 1:47:48 AM EDT
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Opps....I forgot that MEGA has some listed as pistols now..... |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 1:50:31 AM EDT
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SWEET JESUS! I'M GOING TO BUILD LIKE 1000 OF THESE PISTOLS!
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 9:44:26 AM EDT
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 11:34:36 AM EDT
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I just got one too. Quite a bit more exspensive than building your own, but much more reliable in my experience. Plus it looks ten times better than any AR pistol out there. I am waiting on Bushmaster to make their Carbon 15 dedicated 22LR in no ban style w/ a 30 rnd mag and I'll be picking one up for my son. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 11:36:35 AM EDT
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That is all factory. Kewlest AR pistol out there in my book. I love mine. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 12:36:45 PM EDT
[#25]
I just received my Colt Long Slide recoil spring from Wolf. I'll cut it and post the results after I test it!
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2004 1:04:15 PM EDT
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These would work well for a pistol caliber upper.
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Posted: 10/24/2004 2:25:58 AM EDT
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COOL. I suggest getting at least two. I mean, shipping will still be the same, either for just one or for two. I'm not sure when or if the Wolff will wear out, doesn't hurt to have an extra. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2004 1:23:30 PM EDT
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2 Things.
1) The State of Washington Firearms Dealer "Application to Transfer Pistol" form now has a box designating the transfer as either a Revolver, Pistol or Receiver. 2) I have the same problems with my AR AOW and while I'm still pondering bolt-bounce, I have noticed it's chewing up Firing Pin Retainer Pins (the little cotter pin in the bolt carrier). This can be indicative of hammer drag I'm told, which could also explain the lack of full-battery. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2004 3:22:22 PM EDT
[#30]
AR AOW?
What area of WA do you live in? I've had troubles trying to get my LEO to sign... -Jason |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2004 3:33:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mordecai]
[#31]
Oly; I did the NonProf Corp for the suppressor.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2004 3:49:16 PM EDT
[#32]
Damn good idea.. I should try and go that route.... (I want both) |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2004 4:02:55 PM EDT
[#33]
Just take off the stupid pistol recoil buffer tube, and put on a entry length tube(fill the hole where stock attaches with high temp solder if your worried about the stock attaching), or cut off a standard length tube and thread the end for the pistol recoil tubes cap.
The pistol recoil tube is the source of all the problems with these pistols. It looks like there's a big market for someone who can make a carbine length tube that won't take a butt, though people are reporting its ok to use the standard tubes just dont put a stock on. I've owned a few pre ban pistols, until I got a carbine length tube(custom made no holes for a butt) I wasn't happy. Once I had the right buffer in, they ran like champs. My pistols got all the atention at the range, my favorite was a Colt 7.62x39 11.5 inch upper on a PWA pistol lower, worked great with the carbine length tube. |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:51:06 AM EDT
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Noner,
You get a chance to test it yet? With the new spring? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2004 1:55:07 AM EDT
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lol... nope, out of ammo!! (I'll have to scrape some cash together and go play)
unless someone else has some ammo to spare! -Jason |
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Posted: 10/26/2004 2:53:50 AM EDT
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sweet!
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Posted: 10/26/2004 3:38:35 AM EDT
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taggage.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2004 9:29:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Samiam236]
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2004 10:00:48 AM EDT
[#39]
1000 rdsw with my 10.25 model 1 kit, no failures of any kind, stock pistol tube/buffer assy, spring too, i got the wolf but never have cut it or used it yet, i am gonna wait to see how long the std spring goes
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Posted: 10/27/2004 10:15:05 PM EDT
[#40]
Sweet! Maybe they got better springs for the kits now.... |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:02:35 PM EDT
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lol, I doubt it... But I did find another alternative in the meantime... If you can get a buffer tube from a LE stock (short A2 basically) it doesnt have ANY holes mounted at all.. besides the rear screw hole... (I've been contemplating getting a spare to put on the pistol) they use CAR springs and Buffers.. I dont have my camera (till the 30th) or I would take a picture. FOUND IT! -Jason |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 10/28/2004 11:07:02 PM EDT
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DAMN man!!!!!
i've never even heard of 99.9% of those companies and loading was a pain |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:16:27 AM EDT
[#43]
That's bascially what I have *on hand* if I want to g w/ a 9mm upper. I ordered the tube, buffer and spring *only* from RRA. Tube is like $18.00 One also can buy a part for an ACE stock to keep the take down spring and detent in. RRA sells the stock only (no buffer tube, guts) for $80.00 (less the the ACE site). Another member said they bought the front part of the ACE stock to keep the spring/detent in place. Cost $30 or so they said.... rather just get the stock and use it when swapping an 16" upper on......next pay check maybe. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:43:32 AM EDT
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I have a question about the use of an ar15 pistol with a CAR length buffer. There is nothing illegal about placing it against your shoulder to fire, is there? I know we are not talking supreme comfort, but it seems to be a good way to get around the SBR rule. Or should I delete this in fear of the FBI/NSA watching?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:48:55 AM EDT
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I just wouldnt talk about it... The ATF doesnt like a pistol to be able to be fired from the shoulder... soooo... just make it so it doesnt look like a stock, or act like a stock in anyway. then you'll be fine. -Jason |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:55:48 AM EDT
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O, I understand what you are saying. I dont even own an ar15 pistol, but this just got me thinking. If they dont consider a CAR buffer a stock, then they wont mind if I i do?
Ok, time to get an ar15 pistol. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 1:28:53 AM EDT
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Well, my 11.5" AR pistol, when fired from the top of a bag, I can aim like a rifle. Can't shoulder it, but I can fire it okay. Needs a bi-pod though if I want to do more of that..... shoot it like a rifle..... since one can't shoulder it very well.....but it has the M1S pistol buffer.
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MS, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2004 9:48:49 AM EDT
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I got my Model 1 7.5" upper the other night and shot it yesterday morning without any problems attributable to the Model 1 pistol buffer. I was prepared to order a couple of Wolf springs and make a trip to a hardware store to tinker with it, though.
I had to take an emery board to the charging handle because there was a bump on top that was making the bc/ch bind in the upper. I couldn't pull the handle back but I could pull the bolt carrier back freely with my finger. I fixed it and bathed it with CLP. I had to be careful not to kink the spring when I was screwing the rear cap into place. I held the bolt carrier about halfway back with the CH while I was threading the spring onto the guide rod. I kinked it the first two times I tried to assemble it but I was able to straighten it. It sounds like opening a screen door when you pull the ch back, but it works. It shoots fine, I only went through half a mag, but I figured if it could shoot through five slow fire rounds and then ten more quickly, it will work. When the rain stops I'll zero it with the irons and some optics, time permitting. I ordered it with a chrome-lined 5.56 bore, flat-top, with a National Match front sight post and a regular carrying handle and a b/bc/ch. I'm going to install a CQD single point sling loop. I'm thinking about getting some aluminum tubing to make an alminum buffer tube the same size as the Model 1 pistol buffer and end cap to reduce weight, it's pretty hefty. It reminds me of my .44 Desert Eagle in heft. I remember the first time I pulled back it's slide, it was a longer pull than I was used to. Of course it has to be, .44 mag is twice as long as any other autopistol round. It feels like it's harder to pull back the CH, either the spring is stronger or you don't have as much torque from the support hand or something. That puppy is loud, I can't wait to shoot it at night. I'm going to videotape myself and make some stills. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:06:02 AM EDT
[#49]
i love mine
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:18:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SpecialK]
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For those that have ordered from model 1.... are the flash hiders permenently attached or or the barrels threaded?
Also. which is better the 556 or 223 chamber. what are the advantages/disadvantages? |
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