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KS, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2007 8:24:00 PM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2008 8:39:16 AM EDT
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i may be coming into a decent lot of 9mm soon, and already have a little over 3000 rounds(should be a little over 5.5k total). with this in mind, i have been thinking about building a 9mm AR.
this seems like a good idea to me, considering i also already have a spare doublestar arms lower laying around, that i got for christmas(thanks again, unnamed arfcom member). i've been contemplating a model1sales 10 1/4" pistol kit(and maybe stepping up and SBRing it, later on). i would however, like to be able to stay compatable at least magazine-wise, with the stuff i'm already running(glock-17s in this case). 
anyone who knows: is this the oly-arms glock dedicated lower, if not what is it? either way i've heard others who have claimed to have owned the oly's thash talk their reliability(i'm personally not a fan of olympic arms in the first place but...), how does it run for you? anyone know of others offering a glock compatible full kit or magblock? any ideas, suggestions, advice, would be greatly appriciated... |
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Posted: 1/14/2008 8:37:22 PM EDT
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i shot one a few times that belonged to a member on here. It shot wonderfully and the fit and finnish were WAY UP. It was an awesome looking rifle. The guy who owned it was ICARUS. If you PM him he will probably tell you all about it. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 2/12/2008 3:31:06 PM EDT
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Go to any DPMS dealer, have them order a stripped lower (it will come with a serial number ending in "K" to designate they didn't build it into a complete weapon), and have them transfer it to you as a "stripped lower" and check the "pistol" box on the form too.
Several buddies have gone one step further and taken the receiver (still stripped) to an engraver and have "registered pistol" engraved. We have a great laser engraver that specializes in firearms (and has FFL) here if needed. I have a dozen of these stripped DPMS lowers (sequential serial numbers) all registered as pistols just in case. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/1/2008 8:19:04 PM EDT
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I just got my AR pistol functioning 100% this weekend. The solution was multi-fold. But a pigtail gas tube from brownell's was the fainal answer. I posted a pic in the pistol info thread for other who would like to learn more.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2008 10:09:04 AM EDT
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Just wanted to let all you pistol people know that we at Adams Arms are now making a
Retrofit Piston driven system for pistol and SBR's . Here is a picture of one we sent to a customer that is also a member of AR15.com http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc21/flamedred/ar15/ar_pistol.jpg Gas Piston Conversions on pistols make them more reliable over a longer term of use As we all know pistols and SBR's can be finicky and have problems with cycling when not tuned properly.With the AR15FIX by Adams Arms once installed it is tuned by adjusting our gas plug on the front of the block and there are no delicate parts to wear out. Oh Ya! NO MORE cleaning your gun for the same amount of time you shoot it. Check out our web site for more information |
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Posted: 8/17/2008 11:11:08 PM EDT
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Interesting...... I would love to see a thread in your industry forum about it, and then maybe a range report or longer-term T&E thread here. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2008 2:24:56 PM EDT
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pretty nice
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MN, USA
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Posted: 11/1/2008 8:28:25 AM EDT
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Just got my Anvil Arms pistol lower today
 . I feel like a kid at Christmas. Ordered a DPMS LPK and it should be here early next week. I will start posting pics during the build.
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USA
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Posted: 2/1/2009 8:47:12 PM EDT
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Noner u did a great job..Really looks nice..................
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Posted: 3/1/2009 8:54:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By labrat454:
Here is the ATF view on making an AR pistol www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/atf_letter7.txt October 1, 1992 Firearms Technical Branch Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms 650 Mass. Ave., NW Washington, DC 20226 Dear Sirs: The Greensboro, NC BATF Compliance Office suggested that I write to you for information on the following point. I am interested on whether it is possible to have a commercially manufactured rifle receiver changed to be legally considered to be a handgun receiver, and how this can be done. The Compliance Office said that this might be possible via a "Letter of Determination", but advised me to write to you about the criteria and procedures. For example, if a person has a rifle receiver and wishes to have it built into a rifle-caliber handgun suitable for steel silhouette target shooting, comparable to the bolt action Remington XP-100 handgun. I understand that the serial number of this receiver is recorded as being for a rifle. Could this person have this receiver's serial number considered to be a handgun receiver? If so, what procedures and paperwork would be necessary. Sincerely, –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Oct 29 1992 Dear Mr. XXXXX: This refers to your letter of October 1, 1992, in which you inquire about the legality of manufacturing a handgun which utilizes a rifle type receiver. 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 # 5845(a)(4), the National Firearms Act (NFA), defines the term "firearm" to include a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length. Utilizing the receiver of an existing rifle for the purposes of manufacturing a handgun would constitute the making of a firearm as defined above. Individuals desiring to make such a firearm must first submit an ATF Form 1, Application To Make And Register a Firearm and pay the applicable $200 making tax. If an individual were to obtain a rifle type receiver that had not previously been utilized in the assembly of a rifle, a handgun could be made and not be subject to the provisions of the NFA. Verification must be obtained from the manufacturer of the receiver to establish its authenticity. We trust the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. If we may be of any further assistance, please contact us. Sincerely your, (signed) Edward M. Owen, Jr. Chief, Firearms Technology Branch So, if I understand this right... If I build using a virgin lower/receiver like a "Spikes" marked Pistol then buy a upper kit from where ever. I can build and not pay the $200 tax? Much like building an AK from a kit? I know there are differences with the AK, like weather I use a flat or 80% vs a 100%, etc. I just want to build a SBR in the near future if possible without the extra $200. |
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Posted: 3/1/2009 10:33:10 PM EDT
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No way to do that as an individual, but a short-barrelled AR pistol is the next best thing.
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Posted: 3/17/2009 6:58:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wise_jake:
No way to do that as an individual, but a short-barrelled AR pistol is the next best thing. Yes, an AR Pistol, that's what I was trying to ask. I know, If "it" has a stock or can have a stock easily installed along with the 16" or less barrel it's a SBR so the $200 is the only way to stay a free man. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 6/18/2009 10:31:11 AM EDT
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LWRC is about to release the PSD pistol - we should be getting a shipment in in a couple of weeks. I'm looking forward to it...it'll be coming with the one piece bolt from the A3
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2009 6:59:07 PM EDT
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I hope this is the right place to ask:
Say I wanted to be able to switch easily between 9mm and 5.56 on my AR pistol. What parts would I need? I figure that I'll have both buffers (9mm and 5.56), but what else is there? If I'm not mistaken, if I use a ramped bolt, then I can keep the 5.56 hammer in there and not have to swap those. Can I use the same bolt on two different uppers? |
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USA
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Posted: 9/17/2009 3:14:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By QuarkMartial:
I hope this is the right place to ask: Say I wanted to be able to switch easily between 9mm and 5.56 on my AR pistol. What parts would I need? I figure that I'll have both buffers (9mm and 5.56), but what else is there? If I'm not mistaken, if I use a ramped bolt, then I can keep the 5.56 hammer in there and not have to swap those. Can I use the same bolt on two different uppers? You could just use a 9mm buffer for both uppers. You wouldn't have to swap buffers back and forth. As far as ramped bolt and hammers: The best way, for what you're looking to do, is to get a DPMS-style "no-notch" 5.56 hammer, and use that in the lower. It will function with a 5.56 upper (obviously) and will also work with a 9mm bolt, whether it's ramped or not. I'm running a DPMS "no-notch" hammer in my 9mm. My bolt is ramped, so it runs like butter, but a ramped bolt is not a necessity, if you're using a "no-notch" hammer. As far as "Can I use the same bolt on two different uppers?".........Ummmmm, no. You can't use a 5.56 BCG with a 9mm upper, nor can you do the opposite. 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2010 3:47:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TerryGecko]
[#17]
I appolgize if this is a dumb question...
I'm getting a 7" RRA 5.56 Pistol. I would like to put a 6" - 7" quad rail free float tube on it. I understand that I need a low profile gas block but my questions are, what other parts will I need to make it work, and more importantly, how will I know which free float tubes will work on it? Is there a difference between Carbine and Pistol or once the gas block is changed does it not matter? I like the Daniel Defense Lite Rail 7.0. I will also be purchasing a 10.5" shortly thereafter. If I get a free float tube the same length as the factory one will I have to change anything else including the gas block? Any help would be very appreciated. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2010 12:26:45 PM EDT
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I'm glad I am the 2nd to lazurus this thread.
anyone know if the issues with M1S tubes has been worked out? Do the pistols work 'right out of the box"? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2010 3:41:35 PM EDT
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I have an AR lower registered as "other," and I wish to build a pistol with it. After it is assembled, would I be required to then register it as a handgun?
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NM, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2010 11:28:18 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a high resolution version of the big-bore letter? The one I keep trying to print out keeps coming out fuzzy.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2010 7:12:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By savageevo:
I have posted in other forums and still do not have a difinite answer. how about CA. Someone told me as long as I get a virgin lower and register it as a pistol and only build it as a fixed mag and only single shot, I am able to build that. Another person told me not at all in CA because the mag is not in the grip and anything outside the grip is illigal. I would like to build one just because I can regardless if its useless because its only a single shot. If I get a difinite answer I will go ahead and build it and if not I guess I will be building a long ar since I already have a standard one. anybody please help. thanks You can build an AR15 pistol in Cali. You can find Cal legal pistol lowers, just search around. As long as you have a bullet button and a mag that don't hold more than 10 rounds you are good to go. There is a forum in Cali that posts them for sale. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2010 2:16:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DigDug:
Correct me if I am wrong, but any stripped lower that has not been assembled into a rifle can be a pistol lower. When the FFL is filling out the paperwork, have him fill it out for a pistol instead of a rifle. I get my new lowers from NDS and my 01 transfers them to me as 'receivers' they can then be built into rifles or pistols. Once built as a rifle can not be rebuilt as a pistol. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2010 7:01:56 AM EDT
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I'm kind of new here, so I tried to search this but with no results. Does anyone know if a magwell grip on an AR pistol is illegal or not? The grip i am considering is the Mako magazine well grip. Its not a vertical fixed grip like mostly discussed here, its almost like adding a hogue sleeve onto the magazine well.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2010 12:39:06 PM EDT
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Ok, so i did a better such and found several threads that have mentioned this questions about the magwell cover/grip. So ingnore my previous comment. Although everyone had their own opinions about this, and several people said that they would write letters to the BATFE, there hasnt been any mention since. So I'm just wondering if anyone has written a letter and recieved a response from the ATF about this?
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OK, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2010 10:55:42 AM EDT
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EVER HEAR OF HAMMER DRAG, CAN HAPPEN WITH NEW BCG & HAMMER
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2010 3:54:09 PM EDT
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So this thread has really opened my eyes to some new fun options. A local shop that has always taken good care of me always has a 9mm sbr upper that looks so tempting...I think I might have them build one with a 7 inch quad rail and 7inch barrel in 9mm for some cheap range running and take care of the NFA paperwork later so that I can add a stock and vertical grip. :)
They're a wealth of knowledge but I'll ask an NFA dealer about the legalities here in TX. The fun show is coming this saturday so I'll post some updates then! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2010 5:43:18 PM EDT
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Its not an NFA item if you get a pistol lower before you buy the upper. Just get the pistol lower first. Then you can worry about the NFA stuff later [speaking as one who has a pistol lower, a rifle lower, and never the uppers of the twain shall meet]
Only fly in the ointment is if you want to do a form 1 for the NFA and your local CLEO is like mine...won't sign off cause he thinks it will increase crime in his area [douch!] If thats the case, you will have to do a form 4 and get a trust to bypass the CLEO signoff. |
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Posted: 6/15/2010 12:42:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coolhand77:
Its not an NFA item if you get a pistol lower before you buy the upper. Just get the pistol lower first. Then you can worry about the NFA stuff later [speaking as one who has a pistol lower, a rifle lower, and never the uppers of the twain shall meet] Only fly in the ointment is if you want to do a form 1 for the NFA and your local CLEO is like mine...won't sign off cause he thinks it will increase crime in his area [douch!] If thats the case, you will have to do a form 4 and get a trust to bypass the CLEO signoff. You must be from WA! Yup, I plan on going the same route. Rep at J&T has been pretty persuasive about their pistol, and the price is definitely right. May even take it the AOW route eventually w/ a foregrip....at least until I move to a more NFA/SBR friendly state. (can't beat the $5 transfer fee )
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NV, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2010 6:42:01 PM EDT
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wow what a source thread of info! thanks
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2010 7:57:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Functional]
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I just purchased a Rock River LAR-15 pistol 10.5". It will soon be a SBR with a Stamp. Also, with a few other goodies added for Christmas if I am good. I have already sent Santa my list.
You are good in TX! You must have the pistol lower! |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2010 3:25:09 PM EDT
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OK, as I do not want to start ANOTHER thread concerning this, but in the below quoted letter what I am gathering is that if one possesses a stripped receiver which was never manufactured into a complete firearm, it can be built into a pistol. COrrect? That is what I am reading in the below letter anyways. This has probably been covered 400 times in this thread alone, but at least I didn't start a new thread!!! :-) I happen to have a stripped lower and I really want to build a pistol. I can certainly go buy a receiver that says "PISTOL" on it, but if I don't have to spend the cash, all the better!!
Thanks! Originally Posted By labrat454:
Here is the ATF view on making an AR pistol www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/atf_letter7.txt October 1, 1992 Firearms Technical Branch Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms 650 Mass. Ave., NW Washington, DC 20226 Dear Sirs: The Greensboro, NC BATF Compliance Office suggested that I write to you for information on the following point. I am interested on whether it is possible to have a commercially manufactured rifle receiver changed to be legally considered to be a handgun receiver, and how this can be done. The Compliance Office said that this might be possible via a "Letter of Determination", but advised me to write to you about the criteria and procedures. For example, if a person has a rifle receiver and wishes to have it built into a rifle-caliber handgun suitable for steel silhouette target shooting, comparable to the bolt action Remington XP-100 handgun. I understand that the serial number of this receiver is recorded as being for a rifle. Could this person have this receiver's serial number considered to be a handgun receiver? If so, what procedures and paperwork would be necessary. Sincerely, –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Oct 29 1992 Dear Mr. XXXXX: This refers to your letter of October 1, 1992, in which you inquire about the legality of manufacturing a handgun which utilizes a rifle type receiver. 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 # 5845(a)(4), the National Firearms Act (NFA), defines the term "firearm" to include a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length. Utilizing the receiver of an existing rifle for the purposes of manufacturing a handgun would constitute the making of a firearm as defined above. Individuals desiring to make such a firearm must first submit an ATF Form 1, Application To Make And Register a Firearm and pay the applicable $200 making tax. If an individual were to obtain a rifle type receiver that had not previously been utilized in the assembly of a rifle, a handgun could be made and not be subject to the provisions of the NFA. Verification must be obtained from the manufacturer of the receiver to establish its authenticity. We trust the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. If we may be of any further assistance, please contact us. Sincerely your, (signed) Edward M. Owen, Jr. Chief, Firearms Technology Branch |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2011 1:03:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jpmuscle]
[#32]
Key word is the "Assembly" of a rifle so as a stripped factory reciever has not been utilized in rifle it would appear to be pretty clear and dry and for verification of authenticity the Bill of sale should suffice?
Am I correct here? |
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Posted: 3/7/2011 5:16:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BlackRidge:
Originally Posted By coolhand77:
Its not an NFA item if you get a pistol lower before you buy the upper. Just get the pistol lower first. Then you can worry about the NFA stuff later [speaking as one who has a pistol lower, a rifle lower, and never the uppers of the twain shall meet] Only fly in the ointment is if you want to do a form 1 for the NFA and your local CLEO is like mine...won't sign off cause he thinks it will increase crime in his area [douch!] If thats the case, you will have to do a form 4 and get a trust to bypass the CLEO signoff. You must be from WA! Yup, I plan on going the same route. Rep at J&T has been pretty persuasive about their pistol, and the price is definitely right. May even take it the AOW route eventually w/ a foregrip....at least until I move to a more NFA/SBR friendly state. (can't beat the $5 transfer fee )Though this is a older post, I thought to mention that it's a fee of $200 to add a vertical fore grip. 
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=458387 |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2011 6:05:21 PM EDT
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im looking at a 9mm barrel that is 7.5 long and 1 in 15 rifling is this a good rate for this short of a barrel?
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KY, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2011 8:56:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kokopelli]
[#35]
Originally Posted By BlackRidge:
Originally Posted By coolhand77:
Its not an NFA item if you get a pistol lower before you buy the upper. Just get the pistol lower first. Then you can worry about the NFA stuff later [speaking as one who has a pistol lower, a rifle lower, and never the uppers of the twain shall meet] Only fly in the ointment is if you want to do a form 1 for the NFA and your local CLEO is like mine...won't sign off cause he thinks it will increase crime in his area [douch!] If thats the case, you will have to do a form 4 and get a trust to bypass the CLEO signoff. You must be from WA! Yup, I plan on going the same route. Rep at J&T has been pretty persuasive about their pistol, and the price is definitely right. May even take it the AOW route eventually w/ a foregrip....at least until I move to a more NFA/SBR friendly state. (can't beat the $5 transfer fee )wait...what? Instead of SBR'ng my PSA pistol, I can install a foregrip and register it as an AOW, not an SBR? EDIT: I think I answered my own question- I re-re-read the letter in the stickies...looks like an NFA manufacturer can turn the screw to secure my foregrip to my pistol, register it as an AOW and transfer it to me as such for the $5 stamp. Now the question is- how much would they charge you to do it and for transferring it to you? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2012 2:54:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FIDO747]
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Hi Folks,
I'm building an AR pistol and I need some good reviews of the following 6 to 7.5 in. uppers and lowers : * Doublestar and J&T Distributing products. * Ranier Arms * Adams Arms * Troy CQB * Primary Weapons Systems Diablo * Noveske Would also like input regarding 7 in. uppers that are DI (gas) vs. Piston Thanks in advance for your advice! -DB |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2012 5:50:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RacingJake]
[#37]
I got an 7" complete upper from JSE for $355 last month and already got 800 rounds of .223/5.56 through it. Runs great and the price was right !
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2012 5:39:46 PM EDT
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Trying to put together my build list....
I want to know, what options do I have as fas as 9mm Uppers? I just want the receiver.....Where can I get a completed upper from that is good quality? My goal for this build is reliability... I see some places but everyone seems to be out of stock. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2012 6:25:59 PM EDT
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http://www.jsesurplus.com/ar9mm.aspx
https://www.model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=336 or you might consider http://www.americanspiritarms.com/upper-receivers/asa-ar-15-9mm-side-charger-upper-receiver-with-modified-carrier-gen-ii/ I have one of the ASA side chargers as well as a standard upper with 7.5" barrel and a Bushmaster Carbon 15/9 (http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_carbon15_AZ9-C15P21S.asp) that is light and handy. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2012 6:37:05 PM EDT
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Thanks for the other options. I want the receiver and everything inside but I don't want the barrel, sight, and handguard...I am going to need to assemble and buy everything or will they sell the aforementioned together?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2012 12:54:22 AM EDT
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so a pistol has to have a barrel less than 12" to be considered a pistol? I have a 12.5" barrel I was going to use to make an SBR but thinking about making a pistol instead.
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Posted: 11/12/2012 1:13:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sladek:
so a pistol has to have a barrel less than 12" to be considered a pistol? I have a 12.5" barrel I was going to use to make an SBR but thinking about making a pistol instead. There is no federal law stating that a pistol barrel can only be so long. There is no such law in TX either. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2013 9:45:16 AM EDT
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hey guys,
New guy here and figured I would ask my questions here instead of making a new thread. So I picked up a stripped receiver and I figured I would make a pistol first this way I can go back and forth. I think I understand how the lower works (in terms of building it) as I'll be getting a phase 5 buffer tube and any generic lower parts kit. What I need help with is understanding what I'll need for the rest of the build; particularly the upper. I have a goal of what it would look like. Basically a 10.5 barrel with a quad rail that covers the whole thing and even half way up a KX3. Yes, I'm that shallow and I like that look and also as it will be used only for the range. And I'm not in a particular rush to build it as I have a lower now and if the communist state of maryland intends to ban "assault weapons" and make me a criminal then so be it (or I'll move to Virginia). 1) The barrel, I see on websites that for any given length lets just say 10.5" that they either come with or without a gasblock. Do I want it with? All I know is the "switchblock" is used for suppressor applications. 2) The buffer? I keep reading about needing different weights for dwell time purposes. I suppose it's a test and find out game. 3) gas system...I understand there are 4 kinds and I suppose you could go pistol or carbine with a 10.5". However, when you're looking for parts online what defines which gas system you'll get? Is it based on which barrel you order and the default it comes with? So like on noveske: (http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=b-105-556&cat=158&page=1&search=&since=&status=&title=) it would be a carbine gas system. Can I use a carbine length gas system with a pistol buffer tube? (I've lost myself already) Thanks in advance for the help guys. |
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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:47:53 PM EDT
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Couple quick questions (hopefully)... I live in Wisconsin.
I already own two ar15s, and I just purchase a 3rd stripped lower. I went in to my FFL (who did the transfer on the first 2) and asked them to do the transfer as a PISTOL. She told me that I can't do the transfer unless the receiver was manufactured and marked as a pistol. (It is just a stripped Aero Precision lower) I asked her about this and questioned things but she was adamant that it had to come from the manufacturer as a pistol. I was under the impression that when the FFL does the paperwork (which is Form 4473?) they can mark it as Pistol, Long Gun or Other?? (And doing some more reading it looks like it is supposed to be marked "other" but many mark it as long gun). The only catch with it being marked pistol is the background check which is not a problem. Have I missed something, or is there a communication error between myself and my FFL person, or are they just wrong? |
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Posted: 3/22/2013 11:19:34 PM EDT
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It doesn't matter what the receiver is marked. If it is not a complete long gun or complete pistol the 4473 should be marked as other. What is marked on the 4473 is also of no consequence to you when you go to build that lower into a complete firearm. They could have marked it rifle, if that receiver has never been built as a rifle then you are perfectly legal in building it into a pistol, regardless of the 4473 being marked rifle.
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Posted: 6/21/2013 8:16:36 AM EDT
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I'm having an argument with a gun store commando, he says
First off no person can get rid of an "other" without the proper paper work. Second nobody would get rid one if they are in their right mind.First off no person can get rid of an "other" without the proper paper work. Second nobody would get rid one if they are in their right mind. I also have two stripped lowers that were transferred before there was an Other category. They were transferred as Long arms. Since they've never been assembled, can they be built into pistol lowers or not? Thanks! Michael |
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Posted: 6/21/2013 8:33:08 AM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By mrstang01:
I also have two stripped lowers that were transferred before there was an Other category. They were transferred as Long arms. Since they've never been assembled, can they be built into pistol lowers or not? Thanks! Michael Yes. It's irrelevant what the 4473 is marked as. |
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Posted: 6/22/2013 11:24:13 AM EDT
[#48]
Would it be legal to use a complete lower that came from the factory without a stock as a pistol?
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Posted: 6/22/2013 4:41:36 PM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By GerberSchwintz:
Would it be legal to use a complete lower that came from the factory without a stock as a pistol? Yes. Even if it came with a stock it would still be legal so long as it had never been built as a complete rifle. |
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Posted: 6/22/2013 5:48:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: twokitties]
[#50]
I just bought a new lower, it was listed as "other" then "receiver". I now have it listed on my pistol permit. Is it now and forever a pistol?
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