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Link Posted: 4/19/2015 9:38:49 AM EDT
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What barrel are you using? Awesome looking gun Nick.
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What barrel are you using? Awesome looking gun Nick.

Its a kreiger 22in in 6.5 creedmoor
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what load are you shooting? Have any velocity numbers?  I have a 260 krieger comming tomorrow for my mws
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 4:36:51 PM EDT
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what load are you shooting? Have any velocity numbers?  I have a 260 krieger comming tomorrow for my mws
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what load are you shooting? Have any velocity numbers?  I have a 260 krieger comming tomorrow for my mws

Through my mega gun I have shot mostly 140 grain amax.  I ordered a bunch of match stuff from hornady when it was on sale.  I have a ton of components for 6.5 as I have a gap bolt gun in 6.5 as well.  The kreiger is a 1/8 twist barrel and after breaking in a bit the speed has sat down right at about 2800 fps.  Today was cool I didn't shoot over a chrony because there was just no point.  I am going to stick with hornady stuff for this gun and my gap gun will be shooting berger 140 hybrids this summer when I have more time to load.

I have a night shoot next weekend so I was confirming zero and doing some plinking this morning.

At the 100 line checking cold bore.


10 shot group on the 200 yard line.  I was actually kind of surprised by the group as I was shooting a bit faster and sloppier than I normally would.  But that is about a .7 moa group so I was pretty happy with it all things considered.
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 6:32:42 PM EDT
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Through my mega gun I have shot mostly 140 grain amax.  I ordered a bunch of match stuff from hornady when it was on sale.  I have a ton of components for 6.5 as I have a gap bolt gun in 6.5 as well.  The kreiger is a 1/8 twist barrel and after breaking in a bit the speed has sat down right at about 2800 fps.  Today was cool I didn't shoot over a chrony because there was just no point.  I am going to stick with hornady stuff for this gun and my gap gun will be shooting berger 140 hybrids this summer when I have more time to load.

I have a night shoot next weekend so I was confirming zero and doing some plinking this morning.
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10 shot group on the 200 yard line.  I was actually kind of surprised by the group as I was shooting a bit faster and sloppier than I normally would.  But that is about a .7 moa group so I was pretty happy with it all things considered.
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what load are you shooting? Have any velocity numbers?  I have a 260 krieger comming tomorrow for my mws

Through my mega gun I have shot mostly 140 grain amax.  I ordered a bunch of match stuff from hornady when it was on sale.  I have a ton of components for 6.5 as I have a gap bolt gun in 6.5 as well.  The kreiger is a 1/8 twist barrel and after breaking in a bit the speed has sat down right at about 2800 fps.  Today was cool I didn't shoot over a chrony because there was just no point.  I am going to stick with hornady stuff for this gun and my gap gun will be shooting berger 140 hybrids this summer when I have more time to load.

I have a night shoot next weekend so I was confirming zero and doing some plinking this morning.
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At the 100 line checking cold bore.

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10 shot group on the 200 yard line.  I was actually kind of surprised by the group as I was shooting a bit faster and sloppier than I normally would.  But that is about a .7 moa group so I was pretty happy with it all things considered.



Nice shooting.

Have you tried the Bergers yet?  I can't get a single Berger to feed, I've tried both types of 140 and the 130gr bullets.

I've pretty much decided that I like factory ammo these days.  The Winchester and Hornady loads are so good that I've just stocked the reloading supplies that I have and I just buy factory loads and try to save as much brass as I can.  2800 sounds about right for my Kreiger barrel as well, maybe a little fast.  It's been a while since I shot over the chrono.
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Nice shooting.

Have you tried the Bergers yet?  I can't get a single Berger to feed, I've tried both types of 140 and the 130gr bullets.

I've pretty much decided that I like factory ammo these days.  The Winchester and Hornady loads are so good that I've just stocked the reloading supplies that I have and I just buy factory loads and try to save as much brass as I can.  2800 sounds about right for my Kreiger barrel as well, maybe a little fast.  It's been a while since I shot over the chrono.
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what load are you shooting? Have any velocity numbers?  I have a 260 krieger comming tomorrow for my mws

Through my mega gun I have shot mostly 140 grain amax.  I ordered a bunch of match stuff from hornady when it was on sale.  I have a ton of components for 6.5 as I have a gap bolt gun in 6.5 as well.  The kreiger is a 1/8 twist barrel and after breaking in a bit the speed has sat down right at about 2800 fps.  Today was cool I didn't shoot over a chrony because there was just no point.  I am going to stick with hornady stuff for this gun and my gap gun will be shooting berger 140 hybrids this summer when I have more time to load.

I have a night shoot next weekend so I was confirming zero and doing some plinking this morning.
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At the 100 line checking cold bore.

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10 shot group on the 200 yard line.  I was actually kind of surprised by the group as I was shooting a bit faster and sloppier than I normally would.  But that is about a .7 moa group so I was pretty happy with it all things considered.



Nice shooting.

Have you tried the Bergers yet?  I can't get a single Berger to feed, I've tried both types of 140 and the 130gr bullets.

I've pretty much decided that I like factory ammo these days.  The Winchester and Hornady loads are so good that I've just stocked the reloading supplies that I have and I just buy factory loads and try to save as much brass as I can.  2800 sounds about right for my Kreiger barrel as well, maybe a little fast.  It's been a while since I shot over the chrono.

Nope I got 300 of them in a trade and figured I would save them for the bolt gun.  I don't know what to think about loading for the gas gun as the 140s straight from hornady shoot really well.
Link Posted: 4/20/2015 8:31:49 PM EDT
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Nope I got 300 of them in a trade and figured I would save them for the bolt gun.  I don't know what to think about loading for the gas gun as the 140s straight from hornady shoot really well.
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what load are you shooting? Have any velocity numbers?  I have a 260 krieger comming tomorrow for my mws

Through my mega gun I have shot mostly 140 grain amax.  I ordered a bunch of match stuff from hornady when it was on sale.  I have a ton of components for 6.5 as I have a gap bolt gun in 6.5 as well.  The kreiger is a 1/8 twist barrel and after breaking in a bit the speed has sat down right at about 2800 fps.  Today was cool I didn't shoot over a chrony because there was just no point.  I am going to stick with hornady stuff for this gun and my gap gun will be shooting berger 140 hybrids this summer when I have more time to load.

I have a night shoot next weekend so I was confirming zero and doing some plinking this morning.
<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/nickforney/media/10836569_10153226345320460_1786927821_n.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/nickforney/10836569_10153226345320460_1786927821_n.jpg</a>
At the 100 line checking cold bore.

<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/nickforney/media/11146002_10153226416820460_1665993339_n.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/nickforney/11146002_10153226416820460_1665993339_n.jpg</a>
10 shot group on the 200 yard line.  I was actually kind of surprised by the group as I was shooting a bit faster and sloppier than I normally would.  But that is about a .7 moa group so I was pretty happy with it all things considered.



Nice shooting.

Have you tried the Bergers yet?  I can't get a single Berger to feed, I've tried both types of 140 and the 130gr bullets.

I've pretty much decided that I like factory ammo these days.  The Winchester and Hornady loads are so good that I've just stocked the reloading supplies that I have and I just buy factory loads and try to save as much brass as I can.  2800 sounds about right for my Kreiger barrel as well, maybe a little fast.  It's been a while since I shot over the chrono.

Nope I got 300 of them in a trade and figured I would save them for the bolt gun.  I don't know what to think about loading for the gas gun as the 140s straight from hornady shoot really well.



Yeah, I've got a couple hundred of the Berger bullets too and they are going to be bolt-gun loads.  Someday.  I really like those factory loads so it's hard to get ramped up about loading for the CM.  That's kinda weird for me, most of my rifles have never seen a factory load, now I'm getting to where I don't bother loading for anything.
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Yeah, I've got a couple hundred of the Berger bullets too and they are going to be bolt-gun loads.  Someday.  I really like those factory loads so it's hard to get ramped up about loading for the CM.  That's kinda weird for me, most of my rifles have never seen a factory load, now I'm getting to where I don't bother loading for anything.
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Out of my gap I can squeeze some added value out of hand loads just because of the lands but being limited to mag length on the mega makes me question if I will be able to compete all that much with the hornady factory loads.  What it will likely come down to is that I will get equal result at a slightly lower cost with lots of time invested.  I still think it is worth while on the bolt gun and I likely have enough components for the lifetime of that rifle already.
Link Posted: 4/23/2015 10:58:46 PM EDT
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Finally finished tonight... Final parts list:
Mega Reciever set
MagPul PRS
Jp LMOS
Jp Silent Capture spring
Troy Ambi mag release with Seekins button
Seekins Tactical bolt Release (Mega Hardware)
Geissele SAA-E
Ergo grip
BAD ASS CASS-SA
26" Kreiger 6.5 Creedmoor Bull threaded by Ross Schuler
SLR Sentry 9 Melonite .936 clamp on
JD MachineTech 15" handguard
Harris Benchrest Bipods
American Defense Recon
Finally finish by Shad Miller, on Flickr
Link Posted: 4/23/2015 10:59:51 PM EDT
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cool looking rifle.
Link Posted: 4/24/2015 1:57:34 PM EDT
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Finally finished tonight... Final parts list:
Mega Reciever set
MagPul PRS
Jp LMOS
Jp Silent Capture spring
Troy Ambi mag release with Seekins button
Seekins Tactical bolt Release (Mega Hardware)
Geissele SAA-E
Ergo grip
BAD ASS CASS-SA
26" Kreiger 6.5 Creedmoor Bull threaded by Ross Schuler
SLR Sentry 9 Melonite .936 clamp on
JD MachineTech 15" handguard
Harris Benchrest Bipods
American Defense Recon
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/rY5qYk" target="_blank">https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8711/17043507427_3ecab7ef88.jpg</a>Finally finish by Shad Miller, on Flickr
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26" plus the corn cob on the end?  That's one hell of a stick.

Make sure you post a range report when you get it settled in, I'm curious what velocity you'll get.

Nice rifle.
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I'm curious what the brass will look like. That's a lot of barrel in front of the gas block.
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I'm curious what the brass will look like. That's a lot of barrel in front of the gas block.
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I'm curious what the brass will look like. That's a lot of barrel in front of the gas block.

Yes it is.
Link Posted: 4/24/2015 11:54:45 PM EDT
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Going tomorrow to do some BBL break in... I have done one test fire for function only...Currently I have the SLR set at 7-8 and it functioned smoothly, meaning it went bang, ejected at about 2 o'clock and chambered the second round...
Brass looked fine, no worse than any other Ar fired brass..The primer did look a little flat but no worse than a hot load from a bolt gun... However I'm very new to the platform and not sure what I might be missing, what else to look for...
Like I posted earlier this was my first build but from my research, take that for what it's worth, I understand that I can't push the presures as high as I can in a bolt gun... My thought process for the longer bbl was maintaining velocity but at a lower pressure... That may be a bass ackwards way of thinking, not sure... I'm not a gunsmith or expert by no means...
My buddy has my chrono so I won't get to rest any speeds tomorrow... I'm just going to use some factory Horandy 140s so I can get a gauge to what it does pressure wise, because the receipe is on the box...
If you guys have a suggestion I open... I would love to learn all I can because this will not be my last build...
Link Posted: 4/25/2015 8:35:11 AM EDT
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What about ejector swipes? Did you notice any on your brass? One thing I found out was powder selection played a role in gassing/timing of the rifle, especially when pushing pressure limits. Let us know how it does though, its an interesting setup.
Link Posted: 4/25/2015 11:26:09 AM EDT
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No ejector swipes... Just extractor...normal in an Ar from what I understand...
I'm on my way to my range now... My parents own a farm in east central OK and I set up my own personal range (25yrd pistol)(1-500 yards rifle)a few years ago with benches I built and Targets (steel and paper or whatever we find to stick out there)... So I have all day to play with the gas....
But I am a little confused on why everyone thinks this is out of the norm... Why does having a long bbl in an AR effect the pressure? Plus shouldn't I be able to damn near shut it off to the point of just allowing enough gas to allow the rifle to cycle? Then pressure shouldn't even be an issue.. Right?
Like I said I'm green when it come to the platform so please correct me where I am wrong... Just trying to get a better inderstanding???
BTW I build this rifle as heavy on purpose ( 15.8#) for nothing more than to shoot known distance...I don't do comps nor will it ever see the woods... I just wanted a low recoil LR rifle to help me become a better marksman but at the same time have that custom double take appearance.... This fit the bill and never owning a AR thought it would be a learning experience to try and build myself...
Link Posted: 4/26/2015 12:20:15 PM EDT
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Not much to report form the range... Still don't have my Chrono back but going to get it this week...
Gun performed almost flawlessly... Only hiccup I had was I turn when I turn the gas down to much and it failed to cycle but one turn back and zero problems...
Spent much of the day just doing break in via Kreigers website..when I finally got to the point I felt I wasn't gaining anything by doing 1shot and clean I moved to 3shots and clean and finally 5 shots and clean...
I don't shoot and 5 shot groups because my range assistant (my wife wanted to shot it by the time we got that point...but I did happen to get a few 3 shot groups which I know don't really count but as more of a potential test.. I was just using a front bag (Caldwell Tackdriver which I hate but only thing I have right now)...
I didn't take to take a pic of the 100 yd target mainly because it was from two different strings plus didn't bring my calibers but my guess is that it was right at 1/2 MOA... I did however take a pic of the only 3 shot group @ 300... It took my 2 shots to find the dope mainly cause I had no velocity to adjust with and the wind was off and on 10-15 from 10o'clock... I'm not the best shot nor do I claim to be but I can hold my own... But I was able to print a very nice what I'll call a cluster because again it was not 5 shots that was under 2" maybe less but didn't have to measure with so I used my snuff can as a gauge...I'll have more to come later for initial test show I did something right...just need more trigger time and new bag... Any suggestions? Bulls bag maybe? Anyway here's the pic of the 300 steel I mention take it for what it's worth... I don't have my steel for the 400 and 500 yet but they will be on there way shortly with a additional reports...
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Not much to report form the range... Still don't have my Chrono back but going to get it this week...
Gun performed almost flawlessly... Only hiccup I had was I turn when I turn the gas down to much and it failed to cycle but one turn back and zero problems...
Spent much of the day just doing break in via Kreigers website..when I finally got to the point I felt I wasn't gaining anything by doing 1shot and clean I moved to 3shots and clean and finally 5 shots and clean...
I don't shoot and 5 shot groups because my range assistant (my wife wanted to shot it by the time we got that point...but I did happen to get a few 3 shot groups which I know don't really count but as more of a potential test.. I was just using a front bag (Caldwell Tackdriver which I hate but only thing I have right now)...
I didn't take to take a pic of the 100 yd target mainly because it was from two different strings plus didn't bring my calibers but my guess is that it was right at 1/2 MOA... I did however take a pic of the only 3 shot group @ 300... It took my 2 shots to find the dope mainly cause I had no velocity to adjust with and the wind was off and on 10-15 from 10o'clock... I'm not the best shot nor do I claim to be but I can hold my own... But I was able to print a very nice what I'll call a cluster because again it was not 5 shots that was under 2" maybe less but didn't have to measure with so I used my snuff can as a gauge...I'll have more to come later for initial test show I did something right...just need more trigger time and new bag... Any suggestions? Bulls bag maybe? Anyway here's the pic of the 300 steel I mention take it for what it's worth... I don't have my steel for the 400 and 500 yet but they will be on there way shortly with a additional reports...
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I didn't even notice it was a 6.5 until I saw the last picture with the hornady rounds in there and went back to reread.  I am really interested to see the velocity stuff when you get it now.  

I got to shoot my 6.5 with the can on it yesterday.  Shoots real nice I didn't bother changing the gas setting at all because I didn't want to change back I was getting a brass chuck to the 1 oclock soft only about 2-3 feet.  A friend of mine does youtube videos and had his camera out so I am interested to see if there is any good video from it.  There were a bunch of guys out and the steel was pretty big.  Of course you get hits but you don't know the accuracy behind them because the paint was gone pretty quick.

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No ejector swipes... Just extractor...normal in an Ar from what I understand...
I'm on my way to my range now... My parents own a farm in east central OK and I set up my own personal range (25yrd pistol)(1-500 yards rifle)a few years ago with benches I built and Targets (steel and paper or whatever we find to stick out there)... So I have all day to play with the gas....
But I am a little confused on why everyone thinks this is out of the norm... Why does having a long bbl in an AR effect the pressure? Plus shouldn't I be able to damn near shut it off to the point of just allowing enough gas to allow the rifle to cycle? Then pressure shouldn't even be an issue.. Right?
Like I said I'm green when it come to the platform so please correct me where I am wrong... Just trying to get a better inderstanding???
BTW I build this rifle as heavy on purpose ( 15.8#) for nothing more than to shoot known distance...I don't do comps nor will it ever see the woods... I just wanted a low recoil LR rifle to help me become a better marksman but at the same time have that custom double take appearance.... This fit the bill and never owning a AR thought it would be a learning experience to try and build myself...
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I'm doing this on my phone, so I won't go into much detail, but here you go.

The time the bullet is between the gas port and muzzle is called the dwell.  The longer this section is, the longer the port/tube/carrier get pressure.  With a realllllly short dwell you get a very small pulse of pressure, and you need the action to unlock and cycle before gas pressure drops to the point that it can't complete the full cycle.  

With a long dwell, you potentially have very high pressure in the chamber, barrel, port, tube and BCG all at the same time.

You were asked about ejector swipes because if you have pressure in the chamber as the pressure in the BCG is trying to rotate and unlock the bolt, you have two areas with pressure trying to fight each other.  Frequently this results in the ejector cutting into the face as its being pushed back and twisted at the same time.

So it's a question of pressure and timing, not just peak pressure.  I'd love to have a gas system about 2" longer than the rifle length for my rifle, this would allow pressures to drop as much as possible.
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I'm doing this on my phone, so I won't go into much detail, but here you go.

The time the bullet is between the gas port and muzzle is called the dwell.  The longer this section is, the longer the port/tube/carrier get pressure.  With a realllllly short dwell you get a very small pulse of pressure, and you need the action to unlock and cycle before gas pressure drops to the point that it can't complete the full cycle.  

With a long dwell, you potentially have very high pressure in the chamber, barrel, port, tube and BCG all at the same time.

You were asked about ejector swipes because if you have pressure in the chamber as the pressure in the BCG is trying to rotate and unlock the bolt, you have two areas with pressure trying to fight each other.  Frequently this results in the ejector cutting into the face as its being pushed back and twisted at the same time.

So it's a question of pressure and timing, not just peak pressure.  I'd love to have a gas system about 2" longer than the rifle length for my rifle, this would allow pressures to drop as much as possible.
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Thank you sir... Makes perfect sense... Appreciate you taking the time to explain it...
Make sure I understand it correctly, it not an issue of to much gas at one time but to much gas in to many places at once...Potentially causing to much chamber pressure resulting in ejector marks form early bolt rotation and ejection... Am I on the right track?
Edit: after reading that I went back to look at all the cases because my wife picked most of them... There are a few, out of 40, that are a little "shiny" and exactly 2 that have half moons...The rest are like I my first test fire, just a tit on the flat primer side... Little side note it was about 70* when we started shooting 85 by the time we left...
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:08:10 PM EDT
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Will any Milspec charging handle work? Or does it need a 308 charging handle?
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:15:11 PM EDT
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You will need a .308 handle.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 3:08:19 PM EDT
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You will need a .308 handle.
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You will need a .308 handle.


Thankyou. After thinking about it I seen it was a dumb question.
Link Posted: 5/4/2015 6:11:34 AM EDT
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Mine did the same thing. I haven't had any issues from it and it didn't seem to affect accuracy.


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SLR Specwar by wareagle700, on Flickr
Link Posted: 5/4/2015 6:43:13 PM EDT
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Now that my wife has BEAT CANCER!  (its a LOONG 5 year road to "CURED" though.)  We are looking at more activities to do together, including Deer/Elk hunting.

She purchased me a MATEN upper & lower combo set.  The one she picked is the 12" Rifle MKM combo upper/lower/handguard set.

 I would have 'preferred' the 14" MKM or the 14" - 16" MML.  

 I then thought perhaps I could just purchase the longer rail to swap out.

 I called MEGA and spoke to them, and they explained that 'since the handguard rail portion is extruded, each is hand fitted to the individual receiver, and therefore are NOT for individual sale'

 So that idea is blown out of the water.

 It made me question though: I thought the MATEN upper/rail combo looked pretty strong.  BUT, with having the handguard rail portion made out of EXTRUDED aluminum, IS IT VERY STRONG?

 My intent is to use my tripod with the LT-666 rail adapter to Manfrotto adapter to mount the rifle.  Is this a good tripod mount combo to use?

 My back-up option is to buy the PIG/HOG saddle ($$$) or the new & upcoming Reaper Rest ($$$).


Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 3:19:37 PM EDT
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Now that my wife has BEAT CANCER!  (its a LOONG 5 year road to "CURED" though.)  We are looking at more activities to do together, including Deer/Elk hunting.

She purchased me a MATEN upper & lower combo set.  The one she picked is the 12" Rifle MKM combo upper/lower/handguard set.

 I would have 'preferred' the 14" MKM or the 14" - 16" MML.  

 I then thought perhaps I could just purchase the longer rail to swap out.

 I called MEGA and spoke to them, and they explained that 'since the handguard rail portion is extruded, each is hand fitted to the individual receiver, and therefore are NOT for individual sale'

 So that idea is blown out of the water.

 It made me question though: I thought the MATEN upper/rail combo looked pretty strong.  BUT, with having the handguard rail portion made out of EXTRUDED aluminum, IS IT VERY STRONG?

 My intent is to use my tripod with the LT-666 rail adapter to Manfrotto adapter to mount the rifle.  Is this a good tripod mount combo to use?

 My back-up option is to buy the PIG/HOG saddle ($$$) or the new & upcoming Reaper Rest ($$$).


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Can comment on the LT-666 but the hog saddle works fine on my MATEN.  Overall weight on my rifle is 14.5lbs.  It is a very strong handguard with a good connection, no worries about damage from the weight of the gun hanging on it.

Did you ask about swapping out the 14" upper for a 16"?
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 4:16:35 PM EDT
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I got the 12" upper, and DSG had ZERO of the 14" Keymod and ZERO 14" & 16" MLOK in stock and no anticipated delivery date.
Link Posted: 5/17/2015 12:52:20 PM EDT
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Will superior weapon systems rails work on my MATEN? Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/17/2015 3:42:50 PM EDT
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Yes but you need to tell them when ordering so they send you the correct barrel nut.
Link Posted: 5/21/2015 9:02:03 PM EDT
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I am expecting some sales this weekend and wanted some input on my build plan.  I purchased the Upper and Lower a few months ago and hope to purchase the parts as they are available.

Any issues with my list that I should consider?  I am planning on a clamp on gas block because I am not sure about pinning one.  I have built several lowers and 22LR uppers, but never installed a gas block, so want to keep it simple.

Upper and Lower Set: Done - Purchased
Barrel: Rainier Arms Match .308 Barrel - 18 DPMS - $315
BCG:  Rainier Arms Ultramatch .308 BCG - $289
Hand Guard  SLR DPMS High/SR25 14" 308 SOLO SERIES HAND GUARD – MLOK - $250
Gas Tube: SLR BLACK NITRITE MID LENGTH GAS TUBE - $18
Gas Block: SENTRY 7 CLAMP ON PREMIUM ADJUSTABLE GAS BLOCK-MELONITE - $110
Trigger: Geissele SSA – Purchased
Stock: Magpul ACS-L Carbine Stock - $75
Buffer Tube: PWS Enhanced Buffer tubes - $145
DPMS .308 carbine buffer & .308 carbine spring
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 12:05:13 AM EDT
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How did you do this?
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 1:00:22 AM EDT
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This is what I want:  MATEN matched lower and upper complete with 16" M-LOK rail




~Will
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 12:43:32 PM EDT
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This is what I want:  MATEN matched lower and upper complete with 16" M-LOK rail



https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/1425218_1073768615973176_6395498073588609056_o.jpg





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Where’s the best place to order this or any of Mega's .308 AR match sets?



 
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 12:59:21 PM EDT
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https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/1425218_1073768615973176_6395498073588609056_o.jpg


~Will

Where’s the best place to order this or any of Mega's .308 AR match sets?
 


I've been using DSG, right now they are mostly out of stock, as is everyone else it seems. PM/IM me and i'll give you some discount info if you like and qualify
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 1:01:50 PM EDT
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I am waiting for Memorial Day weekend pricing to pop.

a 10% discount would cause me to purchase!
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 1:18:06 PM EDT
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Where’s the best place to order this or any of Mega's .308 AR match sets?

 




I am waiting for Memorial Day weekend pricing to pop.



a 10% discount would cause me to purchase!




Indeed, same here! I would sell my Aero M5 receiver set lol.  Post any links you have here  Thing is, im at a crossroads, im not sure IF i want to go with 6.5 Creedmoor or stay with .308 lol.



 
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 1:34:49 PM EDT
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got this from mega's page, checked all their dealers. been using them for AR15 6.8 builds since i discovered their discount qualifiers. getting phone info is easy as well

Defense Solutions Group
Link Posted: 5/22/2015 1:35:52 PM EDT
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got this from mega's page, checked all their dealers. been using them for AR15 6.8 builds since i discovered their discount qualifiers. getting phone info is easy as well



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Thank you.



 
Link Posted: 6/3/2015 8:08:59 PM EDT
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Anyone have a lead on ma ten lowers with the take down pins already installed? Already have an upper, but everywhere i look only sells them as a combo...
Link Posted: 6/3/2015 9:51:35 PM EDT
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Yeah Bro:

JSE

What is your build plan?  Share with the rest of us observers, we wanna know!

Have fun!

~Will
Link Posted: 6/4/2015 3:29:38 AM EDT
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JSE

What is your build plan?  Share with the rest of us observers, we wanna know!

Have fun!

~Will
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Yeah Bro:

JSE

What is your build plan?  Share with the rest of us observers, we wanna know!

Have fun!

~Will


Thanks! My google Fu is weak. Might as well keep dumping cash into this project.



Sorry for the crappy ipotato pic... Its dark outside!

Mega upper
SLR 16 inch rail
SLR adjustable clamp on gasblock/tube
Rainier Match grade 18" bbl
Surefire Brake
BCM gunfighter Medium
Larue/Harris bipod combo.

As soon as i can find a reasonable FFL in the aurora CO area, I will be adding a lower to that picture
Link Posted: 6/4/2015 10:00:09 AM EDT
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I got lone Maten lowers from dsg and rainier.  

 
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I got lone Maten lowers from dsg and rainier.    


DSG is out of stock right now, and JSE is lower priced than Rainier, if you are buying JUST the lower....

~Will
Link Posted: 6/4/2015 2:21:30 PM EDT
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DSG is out of stock right now, and JSE is lower priced than Rainier, if you are buying JUST the lower....

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I got lone Maten lowers from dsg and rainier.    


DSG is out of stock right now, and JSE is lower priced than Rainier, if you are buying JUST the lower....

~Will



Picked one up, 290 shipped

Now to start re-reading this entire thread for BCG selection...
Link Posted: 6/4/2015 4:09:06 PM EDT
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UGH.  Don't bother: .308 BCG Thread

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Any of you know if this works well with the mega maten? Thx



I called Jason@MEGA and asked him which BCGs they recommend. They said RCA. I have two MEGA builds with RCA BCGs and both work perfectly.

-Stooxie  



Mega told me pretty much the same thing: "RCA and Leitner-Wise are what we use, I haven't had a JP but know they are very good quality."

Clarified: RCA for .308 and Leitner-Wise for 5.56.

~Will




After re-reading some of the posts, I am fascinated by ArmedFerret's woes with the AiM BCG:

I would say that his FIRING PIN BROKE, probably from the CAM PIN being out of spec (backwards?) & forcing the BCG forward, when this happened (firing pin snapped), I would guess the CAM PIN then popped UP and LOCKED the weapon up with a live round in the chamber!

Only thing to do is pull the barrel, and try to push the CAM PIN down...  UGH.


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I figured I'd give it one last try at the range with a new buffer and spring.

I also bought a box of FGMM 168's just to ensure it wasn't an error in handloading steps.






The bolt would not close all the way (again after passing a GO and not closing on a NO-GO both from Forster) and after 20 minutes mortaring, the MEGA "super-awesome billet" charging handle is now bent (a few whacks with a hammer got it moving freely in the channel at least) and the bolt is completely stuck.  Oh and the cleaning rod I attempted to use from the other end is also stuck.  (that's also not a gouge on the bolt carrier in the second photo; it's just a piece of lint that i already blew off)


naturally I expect everyone (mega, aim, rainier, federal) to blame everyone else when I contact them with the photos on Monday.  it's the american way.  make shit, market the fuck out of it on arfcom so everyone claims it's the best, and blame the customer when it goes to shit.

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