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Posted: 11/7/2014 7:06:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's odd. Never heard of that happening before, especially with a good Vortex optic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I've been thinking about this, too.....it'd give me a bit of flexibility. I really like a lot of Vortex scopes but each time I try one of their optics at the local store...they are broken ( specifically the electronics....and it isn't the battery ) right out of the box. I don't know what to make of that....but it bugs me. That's odd. Never heard of that happening before, especially with a good Vortex optic. I have a kind of luck that you just have to see to believe. Everyone who first meets me thinks I exaggerate all the weird shit that happens to me....I invited them to hang with me for a week. I rarely hear from them again.  |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 7:55:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/13/2014 9:39:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/13/2014 10:29:12 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/nickforney/media/IMG_8004.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/nickforney/IMG_8004.jpg</a> Nick, can we get a range report? Again, beautiful gun. |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 10:57:00 PM EDT
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Nick, can we get a range report? Again, beautiful gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/nickforney/media/IMG_8004.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/nickforney/IMG_8004.jpg</a> Nick, can we get a range report? Again, beautiful gun. Gun shoots really well. The kreiger barrel was a step up over the JP. I have had no pressure issues with hornady 140 match stuff still using the JP bolt and firing pin. I had a long range event last weekend. I put my vortex on it with a American Defense recon x mount. The problem was our range even stretched out to 1200 yards. With no MOA adjustment in the mount I had to dial to 9.7 and hold over the additional 4.5 on top of that. The wind made it hard to play. I haven't gotten to do any extended group accuracy work with it. I have a 20moa american defense mount that should be in soon after which I will re-zero and shoot a few groups with factory ammo. After that I will be loading my own. I mailed out my rail to controlled chaos that does my cerakote work for me. I forgot to mention there was an anti rotational piece in the box. Luckily SLR are great folks and they sent me another one. I ordered another 308 rail for a 308 gun Im putting together thanks to this great customer service. So it had 20 rounds through it and went out to get coated then was thrown together and stretched to 1000 yards that day. I don't even want to claim the 1200 because it felt forced. Would have really liked less wind for the day but it worked out. 
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Posted: 11/13/2014 11:09:10 PM EDT
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Gun shoots really well. The kreiger barrel was a step up over the JP. I have had no pressure issues with hornady 140 match stuff still using the JP bolt and firing pin. I had a long range event last weekend. I put my vortex on it with a American Defense recon x mount. The problem was our range even stretched out to 1200 yards. With no MOA adjustment in the mount I had to dial to 9.7 and hold over the additional 4.5 on top of that. The wind made it hard to play. I haven't gotten to do any extended group accuracy work with it. I have a 20moa american defense mount that should be in soon after which I will re-zero and shoot a few groups with factory ammo. After that I will be loading my own. I mailed out my rail to controlled chaos that does my cerakote work for me. I forgot to mention there was an anti rotational piece in the box. Luckily SLR are great folks and they sent me another one. I ordered another 308 rail for a 308 gun Im putting together thanks to this great customer service. So it had 20 rounds through it and went out to get coated then was thrown together and stretched to 1000 yards that day. I don't even want to claim the 1200 because it felt forced. Would have really liked less wind for the day but it worked out.  http://youtu.be/SVMRgmJDU1M?list=UUyfZqoB3wARtV2ENv1IfO6wQuote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/nickforney/media/IMG_8004.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/nickforney/IMG_8004.jpg</a> Nick, can we get a range report? Again, beautiful gun. Gun shoots really well. The kreiger barrel was a step up over the JP. I have had no pressure issues with hornady 140 match stuff still using the JP bolt and firing pin. I had a long range event last weekend. I put my vortex on it with a American Defense recon x mount. The problem was our range even stretched out to 1200 yards. With no MOA adjustment in the mount I had to dial to 9.7 and hold over the additional 4.5 on top of that. The wind made it hard to play. I haven't gotten to do any extended group accuracy work with it. I have a 20moa american defense mount that should be in soon after which I will re-zero and shoot a few groups with factory ammo. After that I will be loading my own. I mailed out my rail to controlled chaos that does my cerakote work for me. I forgot to mention there was an anti rotational piece in the box. Luckily SLR are great folks and they sent me another one. I ordered another 308 rail for a 308 gun Im putting together thanks to this great customer service. So it had 20 rounds through it and went out to get coated then was thrown together and stretched to 1000 yards that day. I don't even want to claim the 1200 because it felt forced. Would have really liked less wind for the day but it worked out. http://youtu.be/SVMRgmJDU1M?list=UUyfZqoB3wARtV2ENv1IfO6wThanks for the report. Glad the Kreiger barrel has improved your performance. I've never shot to 1200, so I commend you for even stretching the rifle's legs that far. Lol. How did the rail hold up? 
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Posted: 11/13/2014 11:11:14 PM EDT
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How did the rail hold up? I can't imagine how it could have failed. Even with out the antirotation tab it didn't move at all I think I got all of 80 rounds through the gun last weekend and it didn't move. Hell I bought a second one so I guess I like it. It feels really good in the hand. |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 12:39:58 AM EDT
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I can't imagine how it could have failed. Even with out the antirotation tab it didn't move at all I think I got all of 80 rounds through the gun last weekend and it didn't move. Hell I bought a second one so I guess I like it. It feels really good in the hand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did the rail hold up? I can't imagine how it could have failed. Even with out the antirotation tab it didn't move at all I think I got all of 80 rounds through the gun last weekend and it didn't move. Hell I bought a second one so I guess I like it. It feels really good in the hand. Awesome. Good to know. Thanks Nick. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 6:26:58 PM EDT
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Gun shoots really well. The kreiger barrel was a step up over the JP. I have had no pressure issues with hornady 140 match stuff still using the JP bolt and firing pin. I had a long range event last weekend. I put my vortex on it with a American Defense recon x mount. The problem was our range even stretched out to 1200 yards. With no MOA adjustment in the mount I had to dial to 9.7 and hold over the additional 4.5 on top of that. The wind made it hard to play. I haven't gotten to do any extended group accuracy work with it. I have a 20moa american defense mount that should be in soon after which I will re-zero and shoot a few groups with factory ammo. After that I will be loading my own. I mailed out my rail to controlled chaos that does my cerakote work for me. I forgot to mention there was an anti rotational piece in the box. Luckily SLR are great folks and they sent me another one. I ordered another 308 rail for a 308 gun Im putting together thanks to this great customer service. So it had 20 rounds through it and went out to get coated then was thrown together and stretched to 1000 yards that day. I don't even want to claim the 1200 because it felt forced. Would have really liked less wind for the day but it worked out. http://youtu.be/SVMRgmJDU1M?list=UUyfZqoB3wARtV2ENv1IfO6wQuote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/nickforney/media/IMG_8004.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/nickforney/IMG_8004.jpg</a> Nick, can we get a range report? Again, beautiful gun. Gun shoots really well. The kreiger barrel was a step up over the JP. I have had no pressure issues with hornady 140 match stuff still using the JP bolt and firing pin. I had a long range event last weekend. I put my vortex on it with a American Defense recon x mount. The problem was our range even stretched out to 1200 yards. With no MOA adjustment in the mount I had to dial to 9.7 and hold over the additional 4.5 on top of that. The wind made it hard to play. I haven't gotten to do any extended group accuracy work with it. I have a 20moa american defense mount that should be in soon after which I will re-zero and shoot a few groups with factory ammo. After that I will be loading my own. I mailed out my rail to controlled chaos that does my cerakote work for me. I forgot to mention there was an anti rotational piece in the box. Luckily SLR are great folks and they sent me another one. I ordered another 308 rail for a 308 gun Im putting together thanks to this great customer service. So it had 20 rounds through it and went out to get coated then was thrown together and stretched to 1000 yards that day. I don't even want to claim the 1200 because it felt forced. Would have really liked less wind for the day but it worked out. http://youtu.be/SVMRgmJDU1M?list=UUyfZqoB3wARtV2ENv1IfO6wNice. I ended up with a PRI 20MOA base with Leupold QR low rings, only because medium rings put the ocular lense a bit too high for me and the only quality low rings I could find were the QR rings. I'm not crazy about them, but they work. Longest shots on my CM are 1300yds, one of those perfect days when I had no wind, perfect trace and good ammo. What is the final weight of your rig? Also, what trigger are you using? |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:42:50 PM EDT
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Nice. I ended up with a PRI 20MOA base with Leupold QR low rings, only because medium rings put the ocular lense a bit too high for me and the only quality low rings I could find were the QR rings. I'm not crazy about them, but they work. Longest shots on my CM are 1300yds, one of those perfect days when I had no wind, perfect trace and good ammo. What is the final weight of your rig? Also, what trigger are you using? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/nickforney/media/IMG_8004.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/nickforney/IMG_8004.jpg</a> Nick, can we get a range report? Again, beautiful gun. Gun shoots really well. The kreiger barrel was a step up over the JP. I have had no pressure issues with hornady 140 match stuff still using the JP bolt and firing pin. I had a long range event last weekend. I put my vortex on it with a American Defense recon x mount. The problem was our range even stretched out to 1200 yards. With no MOA adjustment in the mount I had to dial to 9.7 and hold over the additional 4.5 on top of that. The wind made it hard to play. I haven't gotten to do any extended group accuracy work with it. I have a 20moa american defense mount that should be in soon after which I will re-zero and shoot a few groups with factory ammo. After that I will be loading my own. I mailed out my rail to controlled chaos that does my cerakote work for me. I forgot to mention there was an anti rotational piece in the box. Luckily SLR are great folks and they sent me another one. I ordered another 308 rail for a 308 gun Im putting together thanks to this great customer service. So it had 20 rounds through it and went out to get coated then was thrown together and stretched to 1000 yards that day. I don't even want to claim the 1200 because it felt forced. Would have really liked less wind for the day but it worked out. http://youtu.be/SVMRgmJDU1M?list=UUyfZqoB3wARtV2ENv1IfO6wNice. I ended up with a PRI 20MOA base with Leupold QR low rings, only because medium rings put the ocular lense a bit too high for me and the only quality low rings I could find were the QR rings. I'm not crazy about them, but they work. Longest shots on my CM are 1300yds, one of those perfect days when I had no wind, perfect trace and good ammo. What is the final weight of your rig? Also, what trigger are you using? 
This is how it will stay for the time being. 20moa american defense mount should work. This is basically as low as it can get. I will have to hack part of the cover off to use them on it. According to my bathroom scare with out night vision it is right about 14 pounds. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 11:10:39 PM EDT
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I am new to posting on here but I have been browsing the forum for the past few years for research for my builds. After starting my Maten build 3 years ago I finally got the Forum 4 back on my YHM can to complete it.
Mega MAten receivers 20" Rainer Arms Select barrel Magpul grip and buttstock CMMG lower parts kit(used their trigger, but swapped to the DPMS bolt catch) SLR Rifleworks DA7 adjustable gas block Slash's heavy rifle buffer and spring JP Enterprises 15.5" handgaurd and Low Mass BCG Cheap 45* back up iron sights Nikon M-308 BDC scope 
I picked up a 2nd Maten set and am thinking about building it as a SBR. I also have a Remington 700 in .308 for deer/long distances so long range accuracy doesn't matter to me for the 2nd Maten. I haven't found an answer yet but I am thinking the answer is no. Do Magpul forearms work on the Matens? |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 11:52:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:08:22 AM EDT
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Figured Id post my parts list up here for anyone building and wondering about capability.
Megalithic upper/lower Noveske 21” barrel Elftmann trigger WMD NiB BCG Slash heavy buffer Magpul MOE fixed stock Troy, and Battlefield Arms Development safety selector and mag release Houge grip No scope yet though.. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcXhLnDvp58&spfreload=10[/youtube] Not sure why the link isn’t showing up properly… |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:47:10 AM EDT
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Does anyone know of an upper receiver that fits the MaTen BUT has a forward assist?
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:13:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone know of an upper receiver that fits the MaTen BUT has a forward assist? I, too, would kill for one of these. I fear we are hunting a white elephant, however. Someone had mentioned Aero was going to make one, but I think they were mistaken. As far as I know, with the exception of their standard AR-15 receivers.....there be no such creature.  |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 7:48:28 PM EDT
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I asked aero when they first mentioned their 308 receivers if they were going to make an angle cut upper and lower, and they said yes, but i think they've given up on that because of how well the DPMS style is selling.
Oh well. I've got an extra MaTen lower that's I've been brain storming over and wanted something with a forward assist. Mainly for aesthetics. I wish Mega would make one, but probably wouldn't sell enough. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I asked aero when they first mentioned their 308 receivers if they were going to make an angle cut upper and lower, and they said yes, but i think they've given up on that because of how well the DPMS style is selling. Oh well. I've got an extra MaTen lower that's I've been brain storming over and wanted something with a forward assist. Mainly for aesthetics. I wish Mega would make one, but probably wouldn't sell enough. I think they'd be surprised. I've needed an FA on 308s more than I EVER needed one on a 223. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:20:36 PM EDT
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I think they'd be surprised. I've needed an FA on 308s more than I EVER needed one on a 223. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I asked aero when they first mentioned their 308 receivers if they were going to make an angle cut upper and lower, and they said yes, but i think they've given up on that because of how well the DPMS style is selling. Oh well. I've got an extra MaTen lower that's I've been brain storming over and wanted something with a forward assist. Mainly for aesthetics. I wish Mega would make one, but probably wouldn't sell enough. I think they'd be surprised. I've needed an FA on 308s more than I EVER needed one on a 223. I put together a 308 run and gun type deal. I got an aero set for that reason because I have been surprised by the number of times I have wanted it on my 6.5 mega. I have a different buffer and spring that I am waiting on for the mega so maybe my problems will be solved. I have had more than 3 times now that the bolt wasn't all the way seated especially when loading. |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 2:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I put together a 308 run and gun type deal. I got an aero set for that reason because I have been surprised by the number of times I have wanted it on my 6.5 mega. I have a different buffer and spring that I am waiting on for the mega so maybe my problems will be solved. I have had more than 3 times now that the bolt wasn't all the way seated especially when loading. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I asked aero when they first mentioned their 308 receivers if they were going to make an angle cut upper and lower, and they said yes, but i think they've given up on that because of how well the DPMS style is selling. Oh well. I've got an extra MaTen lower that's I've been brain storming over and wanted something with a forward assist. Mainly for aesthetics. I wish Mega would make one, but probably wouldn't sell enough. I think they'd be surprised. I've needed an FA on 308s more than I EVER needed one on a 223. I put together a 308 run and gun type deal. I got an aero set for that reason because I have been surprised by the number of times I have wanted it on my 6.5 mega. I have a different buffer and spring that I am waiting on for the mega so maybe my problems will be solved. I have had more than 3 times now that the bolt wasn't all the way seated especially when loading. I could have saved myself an hour's worth of time pulling the mag and reseating a cartridge if I would have just had an FA. |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 3:32:54 PM EDT
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I put together a 308 run and gun type deal. I got an aero set for that reason because I have been surprised by the number of times I have wanted it on my 6.5 mega. I have a different buffer and spring that I am waiting on for the mega so maybe my problems will be solved. I have had more than 3 times now that the bolt wasn't all the way seated especially when loading. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I asked aero when they first mentioned their 308 receivers if they were going to make an angle cut upper and lower, and they said yes, but i think they've given up on that because of how well the DPMS style is selling. Oh well. I've got an extra MaTen lower that's I've been brain storming over and wanted something with a forward assist. Mainly for aesthetics. I wish Mega would make one, but probably wouldn't sell enough. I think they'd be surprised. I've needed an FA on 308s more than I EVER needed one on a 223. I put together a 308 run and gun type deal. I got an aero set for that reason because I have been surprised by the number of times I have wanted it on my 6.5 mega. I have a different buffer and spring that I am waiting on for the mega so maybe my problems will be solved. I have had more than 3 times now that the bolt wasn't all the way seated especially when loading. Nick, I had this problem at first, here is what you do- Sloooooowly open and close your upper about a zillion times watch to see if the back of the carrier is actually pushing the buffer enough to displace it. Mine didn't and Clint/Slash/heavybuffers said he frequently sees that problem on billet uppers and lowers. The problem is the buffer retainer pin is slightly too far back, not letting the buffer slam against the carrier the way it should. Mine would just contact as it closed, on the bottom corner of the carrier. As it closed all the way I could tell it was no longer contacting but several thousandths. I stuck my buffer on a lathe and cut an edge around it, just the height and depth of the retainer pin. Now it sits over the pin slightly and contacts the carrier perfect. Never needed a FA since then. Good luck |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 3:38:12 PM EDT
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Nick, I had this problem at first, here is what you do- Sloooooowly open and close your upper about a zillion times watch to see if the back of the carrier is actually pushing the buffer enough to displace it. Mine didn't and Clint/Slash/heavybuffers said he frequently sees that problem on billet uppers and lowers. The problem is the buffer retainer pin is slightly too far back, not letting the buffer slam against the carrier the way it should. Mine would just contact as it closed, on the bottom corner of the carrier. As it closed all the way I could tell it was no longer contacting but several thousandths. I stuck my buffer on a lathe and cut an edge around it, just the height and depth of the retainer pin. Now it sits over the pin slightly and contacts the carrier perfect. Never needed a FA since then. Good luck Can we see a visual explanation if possible? |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 3:43:07 PM EDT
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Nick, I had this problem at first, here is what you do- Sloooooowly open and close your upper about a zillion times watch to see if the back of the carrier is actually pushing the buffer enough to displace it. Mine didn't and Clint/Slash/heavybuffers said he frequently sees that problem on billet uppers and lowers. The problem is the buffer retainer pin is slightly too far back, not letting the buffer slam against the carrier the way it should. Mine would just contact as it closed, on the bottom corner of the carrier. As it closed all the way I could tell it was no longer contacting but several thousandths. I stuck my buffer on a lathe and cut an edge around it, just the height and depth of the retainer pin. Now it sits over the pin slightly and contacts the carrier perfect. Never needed a FA since then. Good luck Can we see a visual explanation if possible? Thanks SCW I had forgotten you had done that. I have a new buffer and spring that should be here any day. I will chuck the buffer up on the lathe and do the same. for those not initiated scw knows what he is doing with 6.5 guns and has an archived thread here with some pretty cool information on how he did his. link to SCW 6.5 thread. this is a picture of the fix he is referring to. 
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Posted: 12/7/2014 4:46:49 PM EDT
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Thanks Nick, that clears it up, I was slightly confused.
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Posted: 12/7/2014 5:42:25 PM EDT
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Thanks SCW I had forgotten you had done that. I have a new buffer and spring that should be here any day. I will chuck the buffer up on the lathe and do the same. for those not initiated scw knows what he is doing with 6.5 guns and has an archived thread here with some pretty cool information on how he did his. link to SCW 6.5 thread. this is a picture of the fix he is referring to. http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/FD37C8C8-9D38-44F2-9FB5-1E0D2BECAD4E_1.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nick, I had this problem at first, here is what you do- Sloooooowly open and close your upper about a zillion times watch to see if the back of the carrier is actually pushing the buffer enough to displace it. Mine didn't and Clint/Slash/heavybuffers said he frequently sees that problem on billet uppers and lowers. The problem is the buffer retainer pin is slightly too far back, not letting the buffer slam against the carrier the way it should. Mine would just contact as it closed, on the bottom corner of the carrier. As it closed all the way I could tell it was no longer contacting but several thousandths. I stuck my buffer on a lathe and cut an edge around it, just the height and depth of the retainer pin. Now it sits over the pin slightly and contacts the carrier perfect. Never needed a FA since then. Good luck Can we see a visual explanation if possible? Thanks SCW I had forgotten you had done that. I have a new buffer and spring that should be here any day. I will chuck the buffer up on the lathe and do the same. for those not initiated scw knows what he is doing with 6.5 guns and has an archived thread here with some pretty cool information on how he did his. link to SCW 6.5 thread. this is a picture of the fix he is referring to. http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/FD37C8C8-9D38-44F2-9FB5-1E0D2BECAD4E_1.jpg I don't really know what I'm doing, I simply do all the dumb and expensive things just ahead of you! 
Just one small caution, if you go too far you'll have to push the buffer back to close the halves. As long as the bottom of the carrier strikes the face of the buffer, not the top, you'll be just fine. I'm thinking I'm going to have to replace my gas block soon. When I built my 6.5 the only adjustable block I could put my hands on was the JP, but it has a simple adjustment screw that seems to move on it's own. Any favorite .936" adjustable gas blocks? I'm going to hit mine with some green loctite and see how long it lasts, but I'd really like a steel one anyway. |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 5:45:26 PM EDT
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I'm thinking I'm going to have to replace my gas block soon. When I built my 6.5 the only adjustable block I could put my hands on was the JP, but it has a simple adjustment screw that seems to move on it's own. Any favorite .936" adjustable gas blocks? I'm going to hit mine with some green loctite and see how long it lasts, but I'd really like a steel one anyway. SLR |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 5:47:49 PM EDT
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I'm thinking I'm going to have to replace my gas block soon. When I built my 6.5 the only adjustable block I could put my hands on was the JP, but it has a simple adjustment screw that seems to move on it's own. Any favorite .936" adjustable gas blocks? I'm going to hit mine with some green loctite and see how long it lasts, but I'd really like a steel one anyway. SLR Those have been the best I've seen. |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 6:01:10 PM EDT
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I'm thinking I'm going to have to replace my gas block soon. When I built my 6.5 the only adjustable block I could put my hands on was the JP, but it has a simple adjustment screw that seems to move on it's own. Any favorite .936" adjustable gas blocks? I'm going to hit mine with some green loctite and see how long it lasts, but I'd really like a steel one anyway. SLR you have to be careful with ID of rails on .936 the sentry 9 set screw will work with the SLR rails I like but the clamp on will not. That sucked because I had the clamp on originally for my JP barrel and had to get a different one. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 8:57:29 PM EDT
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First post but have been reading and learning about a build. I'm at the point to finish my build and need bcg and barrel. I most likely get a rainier ultra match dpms. So what bcg I don't want low mass so jp out. Dpms with jp bolt sounds nice but pricey. I have been thinking of wmd's bcg but can't find any info on there 308. Anyone have any info on it? If anyone has any info that wasnt coved in this thread I it would be awesome.
Also I see problems with some extractors being to sharp or needing orings. I'm confused so please explain procedure on the oring and when needed. Also how to know if extractor is sharp? marks on brass? If it is sharp do you file it? Pictures of the two would help. Want to know before a problem may arise. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:01:36 PM EDT
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I'm seriously thinking my next rifle will be a Maten build. This stuff is wicked cool.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:18:29 PM EDT
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First post but have been reading and learning about a build. I'm at the point to finish my build and need bcg and barrel. I most likely get a rainier ultra match dpms. So what bcg I don't want low mass so jp out. Dpms with jp bolt sounds nice but pricey. I have been thinking of wmd's bcg but can't find any info on there 308. Anyone have any info on it? If anyone has any info that wasnt coved in this thread I it would be awesome. Also I see problems with some extractors being to sharp or needing orings. I'm confused so please explain procedure on the oring and when needed. Also how to know if extractor is sharp? marks on brass? If it is sharp do you file it? Pictures of the two would help. Want to know before a problem may arise. I recently bought a rainier arms ultra match .308 barrel and I also got their new BCG to go with it. I usually try to keep barrel and BCG manufactures the same in my builds. I haven't shot it yet as I am still in the "acquiring parts" phase but I thought this might be something you would be interested in. Hope it helps. Rainier Arms BCG |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 5:53:20 PM EDT
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I recently bought a rainier arms ultra match .308 barrel and I also got their new BCG to go with it. I usually try to keep barrel and BCG manufactures the same in my builds. I haven't shot it yet as I am still in the "acquiring parts" phase but I thought this might be something you would be interested in. Hope it helps. Rainier Arms BCG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First post but have been reading and learning about a build. I'm at the point to finish my build and need bcg and barrel. I most likely get a rainier ultra match dpms. So what bcg I don't want low mass so jp out. Dpms with jp bolt sounds nice but pricey. I have been thinking of wmd's bcg but can't find any info on there 308. Anyone have any info on it? If anyone has any info that wasnt coved in this thread I it would be awesome. Also I see problems with some extractors being to sharp or needing orings. I'm confused so please explain procedure on the oring and when needed. Also how to know if extractor is sharp? marks on brass? If it is sharp do you file it? Pictures of the two would help. Want to know before a problem may arise. I recently bought a rainier arms ultra match .308 barrel and I also got their new BCG to go with it. I usually try to keep barrel and BCG manufactures the same in my builds. I haven't shot it yet as I am still in the "acquiring parts" phase but I thought this might be something you would be interested in. Hope it helps. Rainier Arms BCG Thanks I didn't see the hat bcg. They want way to much for the dpms. The best part is I won't have to worry about head spacing |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:43:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/22/2014 11:38:08 AM EDT
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First post but have been reading and learning about a build. I'm at the point to finish my build and need bcg and barrel. I most likely get a rainier ultra match dpms. So what bcg I don't want low mass so jp out. Dpms with jp bolt sounds nice but pricey. I have been thinking of wmd's bcg but can't find any info on there 308. Anyone have any info on it? If anyone has any info that wasnt coved in this thread I it would be awesome. Also I see problems with some extractors being to sharp or needing orings. I'm confused so please explain procedure on the oring and when needed. Also how to know if extractor is sharp? marks on brass? If it is sharp do you file it? Pictures of the two would help. Want to know before a problem may arise. Im running a Noveske barrel, and the WMB NiB BCG. I have had one problem with the extractor, but only put around 50 rounds through mine, so its still too soon to say that I have the same problem as everyone else. Other than that, Im in the same boat as you about this o-ring deal! hopefully someone can go into more detail about that. |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:08:58 PM EDT
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Sounds like they put the oring around the extractor spring. Hope to learn more. Wish you luck with yours |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 11:09:29 AM EDT
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Who currently has the best price on an ambi maten set? Best I can find is $470 shipped.
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:09:39 PM EDT
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Who currently has the best price on an ambi maten set? Best I can find is $470 shipped. I'd get that. I paid $424 but that was Black Friday. $470 is GTG. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:10:43 PM EDT
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Gentlemen..I have a question. Will the KAC urx 3.1 work with a mega maten .308? Thanks.
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Posted: 12/23/2014 8:51:35 PM EDT
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I figure I will show off my latest .308 build. This is the third MATEN build I have done but first with the Megalithic receivers. These seem awesome and they were a breeze for assembly. Here are the specs and sorry about the crappy pictures, when it gets a little nicer out I'd like to take some pictures in natural light.
Mega MTS Receiver Set (12" Integral Keymod Rail) 16" Mega .308 Mid-Length Barrel SLR Adjustable Gas Block Surefire SFMB-762 Muzzle Brake Shadow Ops Weaponry NiB BCG Hiperfire Hipertouch 24E Trigger BAD-ASS Ambi Safety Selector B5 SOPMOD Stock Unsure on what optic I will run. 
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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:06:31 PM EDT
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Gentlemen..I have a question. Will the KAC urx 3.1 work with a mega maten .308? Thanks. Yes. First rifle from the left. 
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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:47:08 PM EDT
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Yes. First rifle from the left. http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m504/Fozzy8/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps56ef3622.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gentlemen..I have a question. Will the KAC urx 3.1 work with a mega maten .308? Thanks. Yes. First rifle from the left. http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m504/Fozzy8/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps56ef3622.jpg Nice!! No modifications? Just slaps right on? Thanks BTW. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:55:01 PM EDT
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Nice!! No modifications? Just slaps right on? Thanks BTW. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gentlemen..I have a question. Will the KAC urx 3.1 work with a mega maten .308? Thanks. Yes. First rifle from the left. http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m504/Fozzy8/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps56ef3622.jpg Nice!! No modifications? Just slaps right on? Thanks BTW. Yup. Fits just fine. You'll need the special KAC wrench and vice fixture though, so you'll probably want to send it off for install. Ayan at boltcarrier does good work. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 2:50:43 PM EDT
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Mine is slowly coming together thanks to this thread.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 3:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine is slowly coming together thanks to this thread. http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss328/miker84/SPR/20141224_123942_zpseik2selq.jpg Yes! That is NICE!!!! |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 6:38:06 PM EDT
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** Update**
I posted several months ago when I was trying to sort out my issues with my MATEN build. Basically, I could not get it to shoot worth a crap using several different types of ammo. I ended up sending the rifle back to JP. They confirmed the rifle was assembled properly and torqued to spec. They said that they "shimmed" my buffer tube, which allowed it to be screwed into the receiver fully. As my build uses a JP silent capture spring, they say the buffer tube needs to be screwed in fully, else the spring will not "throw" the bolt all the way forward, leading to accuracy issue. I am not completely sure I buy that theory, but I gave it a shot. This is my previous post from several months ago: I have tried several different types of ammo. Winchester 168 gr. Match Winchester 150 gr Power Point Winchester 150 gr Power Point Plus Remington UMC 150 gr. PMC Bronze 147 gr. I know only one of those is high quality ammo, but some of the groups were up to 4" at 100 yards, with the smallest being 2". I figured they would be smaller than that. I am shooting using a Cabela's rest. It has a base with a rest for the front and rear of the rifle. I put a sandbag in the base to keep recoil to a minimum. I have a Vortex Viper 4-16 in a Larue Mount. The optic was mounted per Larue instructions, and the mount levers were adjusted to spec as well. I increased the torque to 85 ft lbs, cleaned the rife, and went back to the range. After getting frustrated with the results, I threw the mount and optic onto my Larue 18" 5.56 OBR and shot sub MOA right off the bat using 69 gr match ammo. Since I had good results with the second rifle, I am confident my shooting technique and setup are adequate. I also threw on a different optic with a mount that was not quick detach, but the results were the same. So, I have ruled out the possibility of an optic or mount issue. Twice, I have shot 3 shots that were touching, but the 4th and 5th were all over the place. I have about 200 rounds through the rifle so far. End of my previous post. The following is the current update. So, I got some different kinds of ammo and took it back to the range. Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr SMK Hornady Superperformance 168 gr SST Winchester 168gr Match Winchester 150 gr Silvertip The rifle finally shot well enough for my satisfaction with the Federal 168 SMK's. One of my group measured 0.849," which is by far the best so far for this rifle. 
However, it did not like any of the other ammo at all, as they grouped around 2" across the board. 
I am slightly disappointed that the rifle isn't shooting better, but I can't completely rule myself out as the issue. Many of you have posted advice to focus on fundamentals and emphasize shooting from the same position each time. I know I don't focus on that aspect nearly enough, but I am pretty confident in my ability to hold the crosshairs over the bulls-eye consistently. If I put the crosshairs in the same spot every time, does it matter where my head position is? I would think moving my head and changing the sight picture wouldn't really affect the accuracy that much when I'm shooting from a lead sled, but I'll let better shooters tell me I'm wrong. Thanks for all your help so far!! |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 8:27:28 PM EDT
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The big guns can be QUITE difficult to shoot groups with.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:51:07 PM EDT
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The big guns can be QUITE difficult to shoot groups with. If your fundamentals, such as a consistent cheek weld, are not 100% dialed in, you're gonna have a bad day. I can tell after I've been shooting this rifle that I start expecting a loud boom, which could lead to some premature flinching. How does a consistent cheek weld affect it? Is it just a matter of using the same movements until they become habits? |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 12:20:08 AM EDT
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The big guns can be QUITE difficult to shoot groups with. If your fundamentals, such as a consistent cheek weld, are not 100% dialed in, you're gonna have a bad day. I can tell after I've been shooting this rifle that I start expecting a loud boom, which could lead to some premature flinching. How does a consistent cheek weld affect it? Is it just a matter of using the same movements until they become habits? A lot of them are sensitive to how they're gripped, and not doing the exact same thing with them every time is easy to do. The head movement is a problem with parallax in the scope, primarily, but can also influence the grip/pressure situation. I hear you on that brake. Those JP brakes are about like being slapped in the head with a board. Double up on your ear pro. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 12:51:31 AM EDT
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Took the wife shooting today, it was her first time shooting my Creedmoor and her first time shooting longer distances than 100yds. She did pretty well, it took her a long time to figure out how to see through a scope, but she made several hits at 545yds today. Target was a railroad gusset plate, so about 8" x 14". She shot the hell out of it with the AR prior to dragging out the big gun, but that was at about 20yds.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:56:47 PM EDT
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Took the wife shooting today, it was her first time shooting my Creedmoor and her first time shooting longer distances than 100yds. She did pretty well, it took her a long time to figure out how to see through a scope, but she made several hits at 545yds today. Target was a railroad gusset plate, so about 8" x 14". She shot the hell out of it with the AR prior to dragging out the big gun, but that was at about 20yds. http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/Guns/1737B579-7769-4623-8A8D-0942CB0275B7.jpg?1419482862020&1419482864507 http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/Guns/7425F5C4-3FC5-4FDA-87F5-61B79B0B4ABE.jpg?1419482862020&1419482864507 Is that the 24" Fulton Armory barrel? If so how do you like it? What length mkm rail is that? Thanks |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:58:17 PM EDT
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you have to be careful with ID of rails on .936 the sentry 9 set screw will work with the SLR rails I like but the clamp on will not. That sucked because I had the clamp on originally for my JP barrel and had to get a different one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm thinking I'm going to have to replace my gas block soon. When I built my 6.5 the only adjustable block I could put my hands on was the JP, but it has a simple adjustment screw that seems to move on it's own. Any favorite .936" adjustable gas blocks? I'm going to hit mine with some green loctite and see how long it lasts, but I'd really like a steel one anyway. SLR you have to be careful with ID of rails on .936 the sentry 9 set screw will work with the SLR rails I like but the clamp on will not. That sucked because I had the clamp on originally for my JP barrel and had to get a different one. Which SLR rail did you try it with. I was under impression the sentry 9 clamp on would work under their 308 rails. |
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