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Link Posted: 5/26/2014 1:35:01 PM EDT
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I am a little confused on what stocks to use. im looking at a 18" barrel and a adjustable stock. Now the first pages says i cant use a ar15 carbine buffer, so would i just get a rifle lenfth buffer? or should i get a ar10 buffer?
Link Posted: 5/26/2014 1:37:05 PM EDT
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better yet, should i just get this? 308 buffer kit
Link Posted: 5/27/2014 9:04:17 PM EDT
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I am a little confused on what stocks to use. im looking at a 18" barrel and a adjustable stock. Now the first pages says i cant use a ar15 carbine buffer, so would i just get a rifle lenfth buffer? or should i get a ar10 buffer?
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Let me bump this for you, Alex, as I too am interested in this.  From everything I have gleaned from various threads, the .308 carbine can be a temperamental beast that requires some tlc and a good bit of skill to create correctly.  Other times...they go right together and work like a rifle.



 
Link Posted: 5/27/2014 9:12:32 PM EDT
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That will work fine for a carbine stock setup, my only suggestion would be an adjustable gas block so that you can optimize the dwell time.
Link Posted: 5/30/2014 6:26:49 AM EDT
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Starting to look like a rifle. I can't decide if I want the top spr rail to tie the handguard and upper. It changes my scope selection I think. Either Mk6 with spr rail, or NF without the rail. NF setup will probably be a few hundred cheaper.

Link Posted: 5/30/2014 7:36:49 AM EDT
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Great job on the write-up, and about time.

Here's a LINK to my build as it shows a sample exhaustive parts list.

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Link Posted: 5/30/2014 11:24:13 AM EDT
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Starting to look like a rifle. I can't decide if I want the top spr rail to tie the handguard and upper. It changes my scope selection I think. Either Mk6 with spr rail, or NF without the rail. NF setup will probably be a few hundred cheaper.

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NICE RIFLE! I too am deciding on the SPR top rail. But I have the delta fore arm and only have one option, I really want the one that has room for the front sight rail. For the delta, it goes almost all the way and you have to remove the sight rail and mount on the spr rail.
Link Posted: 5/30/2014 7:40:33 PM EDT
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Starting to look like a rifle. I can't decide if I want the top spr rail to tie the handguard and upper. It changes my scope selection I think. Either Mk6 with spr rail, or NF without the rail. NF setup will probably be a few hundred cheaper.



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Lookin' smooth, Brother!!!!



 
Link Posted: 6/10/2014 6:52:34 PM EDT
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I have a few questions before I order the last parts for my build.

The questions are in the red font.

What I have:

Mega MKM Rifle length receiver set
JP 20" Barrel with adjustable gas block
JP Low Mass bolt carrier and bolt
JP Silent Capture Spring and buffer system

What I intend to acquire:

Larue extension tube with castle nut & latch plate (I need the AR15 extension with a JP buffer and spring system, correct? According to JP, their system is designed for a 7" tube.)
Larue APEG grip (Do I need the AR15 or the AR10 version?)
JP lower parts kit minus trigger assembly (Does this have all the parts necessary to finish the lower? Source is Rainier Arms.)
Geissele SSA trigger group
Magpul ACS Stock
Larue Optic Mount (Do I need a mount with inclination built in to shoot to 1000 yards?)
Vortex Scope (I'm looking at the 4-16 and 6-24, but I'm still undecided.)

Any help is much appreciated.
Link Posted: 6/10/2014 8:10:48 PM EDT
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I have a few questions before I order the last parts for my build.

The questions are in the red font.

What I have:

Mega MKM Rifle length receiver set
JP 20" Barrel with adjustable gas block
JP Low Mass bolt carrier and bolt
JP Silent Capture Spring and buffer system

What I intend to acquire:

Larue extension tube with castle nut & latch plate (I need the AR15 extension with a JP buffer and spring system, correct? According to JP, their system is designed for a 7" tube.)
Larue APEG grip (Do I need the AR15 or the AR10 version?)
JP lower parts kit minus trigger assembly (Does this have all the parts necessary to finish the lower? Source is Rainier Arms.)
Geissele SSA trigger group
Magpul ACS Stock
Larue Optic Mount (Do I need a mount with inclination built in to shoot to 1000 yards?)
Vortex Scope (I'm looking at the 4-16 and 6-24, but I'm still undecided.)

Any help is much appreciated.
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Apeg should be a ar15 style since i got the ar10 and it required some fitting to get it to fit perfect. as for larue mount id rather have 20 moa and not need it than run out of elevation.
Link Posted: 6/10/2014 8:15:16 PM EDT
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LaRue Grip: you need the ar15 version, the ar10 version is to big as MaTen lowers were designed to use ar15 style grips to eliminate the confusion, or ugly gap spacers and wedges and crap.

I don't know anything on the JP buffer kit. Sorry.

Lower parts kit: if you have the ambi lower, all you need is a trigger, mag catch and button, and buffer detent and spring.

On the scope mount, it could help to have the moa cant, but not really necessary.

Others will be able to help you where I can't.
Link Posted: 6/11/2014 2:22:31 AM EDT
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I have a few questions before I order the last parts for my build.

The questions are in the red font.

What I have:

Mega MKM Rifle length receiver set
JP 20" Barrel with adjustable gas block
JP Low Mass bolt carrier and bolt
JP Silent Capture Spring and buffer system

What I intend to acquire:

Larue extension tube with castle nut & latch plate (I need the AR15 extension with a JP buffer and spring system, correct? According to JP, their system is designed for a 7" tube.)
Larue APEG grip (Do I need the AR15 or the AR10 version?)
JP lower parts kit minus trigger assembly (Does this have all the parts necessary to finish the lower? Source is Rainier Arms.)
Geissele SSA trigger group
Magpul ACS Stock
Larue Optic Mount (Do I need a mount with inclination built in to shoot to 1000 yards?)
Vortex Scope (I'm looking at the 4-16 and 6-24, but I'm still undecided.)

Any help is much appreciated.
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On the scope mount, I would get the 20 moa if you can.  You might find yourself shooting a heavier bullet, which will not fly as flat.
Link Posted: 6/11/2014 2:28:05 AM EDT
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What receiver block are you guys using to clamp the upper down so you can tighten the barrel nut to the receiver? I'm looking at the DPMS upper receiver block.
Link Posted: 6/11/2014 5:51:00 AM EDT
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I used the one from armalite. You can use it for AR10s and 15s. But you gotta dremel about 1/8" of the bottom piece for it to fit snug.
Link Posted: 6/11/2014 9:07:01 AM EDT
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What receiver block are you guys using to clamp the upper down so you can tighten the barrel nut to the receiver? I'm looking at the DPMS upper receiver block.
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I'm using the dpms....what receivers are you using?



I used the DPMS Panther block on my Mega.  It worked well but ( and this is good ) fits REALLLLY tight.  You put the upper on it just like a receiver....front pin first then rock the upper down to the rear pin.  Make sure you have your vise really firmly clamped on the block.



 
Link Posted: 6/11/2014 4:44:40 PM EDT
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On the scope mount, I would get the 20 moa if you can.  You might find yourself shooting a heavier bullet, which will not fly as flat.
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I have a few questions before I order the last parts for my build.

The questions are in the red font.

What I have:

Mega MKM Rifle length receiver set
JP 20" Barrel with adjustable gas block
JP Low Mass bolt carrier and bolt
JP Silent Capture Spring and buffer system

What I intend to acquire:

Larue extension tube with castle nut & latch plate (I need the AR15 extension with a JP buffer and spring system, correct? According to JP, their system is designed for a 7" tube.)
Larue APEG grip (Do I need the AR15 or the AR10 version?)
JP lower parts kit minus trigger assembly (Does this have all the parts necessary to finish the lower? Source is Rainier Arms.)
Geissele SSA trigger group
Magpul ACS Stock
Larue Optic Mount (Do I need a mount with inclination built in to shoot to 1000 yards?)
Vortex Scope (I'm looking at the 4-16 and 6-24, but I'm still undecided.)

Any help is much appreciated.


On the scope mount, I would get the 20 moa if you can.  You might find yourself shooting a heavier bullet, which will not fly as flat.


Actually, the heavier bullets with higher BC's fly flatter than the lighter ones once you get out to the point where you use that 20MOA cant.
Choosing whether or not to buy a mount with forward can't built in largely depends on your scope's internal travel and the shooters intended use.

Link Posted: 6/14/2014 4:17:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2014 5:04:23 PM EDT
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hey guys working on a ma-ten build myself and was curious if you guys know what handguards fit over the JP .936 adjustable block?  I haven't had to deal with fitting in side of the rail much in the past and figured someone might have a list.
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Which part number are you looking at...I see a few different options.  I can tell you that the Wilson straight tube adjustable block fits very nicely under my APEX 15 inch tube.



 
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 5:23:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2014 11:00:49 PM EDT
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I am actually very interested in the Wilson and was thinking I might fit it under a cmr rail.
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hey guys working on a ma-ten build myself and was curious if you guys know what handguards fit over the JP .936 adjustable block?  I haven't had to deal with fitting in side of the rail much in the past and figured someone might have a list.


Which part number are you looking at...I see a few different options.  I can tell you that the Wilson straight tube adjustable block fits very nicely under my APEX 15 inch tube.

 


I am actually very interested in the Wilson and was thinking I might fit it under a cmr rail.


I should have measured mine to get the max height above bore....but looking at the CMR...you should have even MORE room than I do.



This is strictly anecdotal but my Mega is one positive running machine.  I still need to get it and the mags really broken in, though.



 
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 11:02:44 PM EDT
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If you use a DMPS style carrier you need a DPMS LR Carbine buffer. Its shorter than a AR15 Car buffer. Or better yet get a solid SS one from slash and a AR10 buffer spring.
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I am a little confused on what stocks to use. im looking at a 18" barrel and a adjustable stock. Now the first pages says i cant use a ar15 carbine buffer, so would i just get a rifle lenfth buffer? or should i get a ar10 buffer?


Let me bump this for you, Alex, as I too am interested in this.  From everything I have gleaned from various threads, the .308 carbine can be a temperamental beast that requires some tlc and a good bit of skill to create correctly.  Other times...they go right together and work like a rifle.

 






If you use a DMPS style carrier you need a DPMS LR Carbine buffer. Its shorter than a AR15 Car buffer. Or better yet get a solid SS one from slash and a AR10 buffer spring.


Think that would run good with a UBR? ( all things considered, of course )   I am gonna run a 20 inch light barrel and a UBR on my next Mega.



 
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:47:44 AM EDT
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Think that would run good with a UBR? ( all things considered, of course )   I am gonna run a 20 inch light barrel and a UBR on my next Mega.
 
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I am a little confused on what stocks to use. im looking at a 18" barrel and a adjustable stock. Now the first pages says i cant use a ar15 carbine buffer, so would i just get a rifle lenfth buffer? or should i get a ar10 buffer?

Let me bump this for you, Alex, as I too am interested in this.  From everything I have gleaned from various threads, the .308 carbine can be a temperamental beast that requires some tlc and a good bit of skill to create correctly.  Other times...they go right together and work like a rifle.
 



If you use a DMPS style carrier you need a DPMS LR Carbine buffer. Its shorter than a AR15 Car buffer. Or better yet get a solid SS one from slash and a AR10 buffer spring.

Think that would run good with a UBR? ( all things considered, of course )   I am gonna run a 20 inch light barrel and a UBR on my next Mega.
 



I don't have the UBR, but the length is the same and I have Slash's X-Heavy buffer and a carbine spring.  Very good results.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 7:19:17 AM EDT
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I have the Slash XH buffer and spring on my MaTen with the UBR, runs great so far. Still need an adjustable gas block though and it will run even better.
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I have the Slash XH buffer and spring on my MaTen with the UBR, runs great so far. Still need an adjustable gas block though and it will run even better.
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What handguard are you running?  I forget.



 
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 5:53:10 AM EDT
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The PRI Delta.
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The Wilson straight tube adjustable should fit under that NO PROBLEM!!!



 
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 4:57:31 PM EDT
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Just dropped $800 at ga precision for a barrel!!!
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I hope it's exactly what you wanted. What all are they doing? Statring from a blank and installing on your mega?
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Details, Man, details!!!!  Give us some specs!!!!



 
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:18:22 PM EDT
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Ya they are starting from a Bartlein blank and milling a 22" heavy barrel for me. .875 at gas block and black cerakote. I am pretty stoked I don't think I can wait the two months that they said it might take. Good guys there and will continue to do business with them. P.s. You get what you pay for and I sure as hell better get a gnats ass precision barrel
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:21:28 PM EDT
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I hope it's exactly what you wanted. What all are they doing? Statring from a blank and installing on your mega?

Yep but I opted not to have it installed on my upper because for the crazy ass price they where going to charge me, I will do it my self and it would add two more months to the already two month wait time. They are making the barrel with my extension (BAT precision) and my jp bolt!
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:24:11 PM EDT
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I still can't figure out a scope, leaning towards a vortex viper pst ffp 4-16 but it's not made in USA and that kinda bugs me. Any advice it's gotta be ffp and enough power to shoot long range. Ohh and american built
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 9:37:42 PM EDT
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Don't get hung up on that, made in USA doesn't always = better in the optics world. Tons of excellent quality scopes are made in Japan. You are going to have to seriously up your budget if you want a quality tactical scope made in the USA. They start in the $2K range.
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My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!







 
 
Link Posted: 6/18/2014 11:12:51 PM EDT
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Ya they are starting from a Bartlein blank and milling a 22" heavy barrel for me. .875 at gas block and black cerakote. I am pretty stoked I don't think I can wait the two months that they said it might take. Good guys there and will continue to do business with them. P.s. You get what you pay for and I sure as hell better get a gnats ass precision barrel
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My next barrel is gonna be a custom 20 inch lightweight in stainless.  What type of extension largely hinges on whether an Armalite FA, A type upper will fit on my Mega lower.



 
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 7:57:09 PM EDT
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My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62172
   
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My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62172
   

Are those mil/mil
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My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62172
   

Are those mil/mil



Depends which knobs you get.  M5 knobs are mil/mil.
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I still can't figure out a scope, leaning towards a vortex viper pst ffp 4-16 but it's not made in USA and that kinda bugs me. Any advice it's gotta be ffp and enough power to shoot long range. Ohh and american built


My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!



http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62172

   


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Depends which knobs you get.  M5 knobs are mil/mil.
Mine are M1 Knobs....1/4 MOA.



 
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I still can't figure out a scope, leaning towards a vortex viper pst ffp 4-16 but it's not made in USA and that kinda bugs me. Any advice it's gotta be ffp and enough power to shoot long range. Ohh and american built

My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62172
   

Are those mil/mil



Depends which knobs you get.  M5 knobs are mil/mil.
Mine are M1 Knobs....1/4 MOA.
 

Do they have a 6.5 -20 with TMR and mil/mil that would be the shit!
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Yup.  110076, front focal TMR with M5 knobs.  I don't know "typical" pricing, all I have in front of me for reference is the .mil pricing.  
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Yup.  110076, front focal TMR with M5 knobs.  I don't know "typical" pricing, all I have in front of me for reference is the .mil pricing.  
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Yup.  110076, front focal TMR with M5 knobs.  I don't know "typical" pricing, all I have in front of me for reference is the .mil pricing.  

What's wrong with this????    I kinda dig illuminated, what's the difference between lrt and ert
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/687050/leupold-mark-4-long-range-tactical-m5-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-85-25x-50mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-illuminated-tmr-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding
Link Posted: 6/19/2014 11:12:30 PM EDT
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I don't see that they make the 6.5 -20 ffp mil/mil in the illuminated variant
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My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62172
   

Would you recommend a 10 or 20 Moa mount for this scope or does flat work
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It's weird...they DO list it BUT then they don't!!!  I was looking at that, too!!!  Let me see what I can dig up!!!



I'll try to get you  Leupold part number.





 
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http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/mark-4-lrt-riflescopes/mark-4-lrt-8-5-25x50mm-30mm-m5-illum-ret/



Leupold part number 113092



It does NOT show a tick mark for illumination on the spreadsheet BUT it is listed as an Illuminated model.  It uses the Tactical Milling Reticle...and I have to say...I love mine!!!
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I still can't figure out a scope, leaning towards a vortex viper pst ffp 4-16 but it's not made in USA and that kinda bugs me. Any advice it's gotta be ffp and enough power to shoot long range. Ohh and american built


My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!



http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=62172

   


Would you recommend a 10 or 20 Moa mount for this scope or does flat work




I am using 0 MOA, here in AZ, if you can get a clear line of sight of more than 600 meters you are looking from mountaintop to mountaintop.  There are some places where you can go to 1k meters...but not too many.



Honestly, 1000 meters with a .308 is stretching it unless you are REALLLLLLY good.  I can't go beyond 600 unless I am using a 300 Win Mag and more than 20 power....but again...that is nearly NEVER where I live.



 
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It does NOT show a tick mark for illumination on the spreadsheet BUT it is listed as an Illuminated model.  It uses the Tactical Milling Reticle...and I have to say...I love mine!!!
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Is there a difference between the ert and lrt models they are offered in the same magnifications
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I still can't figure out a scope, leaning towards a vortex viper pst ffp 4-16 but it's not made in USA and that kinda bugs me. Any advice it's gotta be ffp and enough power to shoot long range. Ohh and american built

My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!

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Would you recommend a 10 or 20 Moa mount for this scope or does flat work

20 MOA all the things. I have a Badger Ord mount on mine, and even in .260 it's not enough to reach a mile.
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20 MOA all the things. I have a Badger Ord mount on mine, and even in .260 it's not enough to reach a mile.
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I still can't figure out a scope, leaning towards a vortex viper pst ffp 4-16 but it's not made in USA and that kinda bugs me. Any advice it's gotta be ffp and enough power to shoot long range. Ohh and american built

My 30mm MK IV was just under 1400....love it!!!

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Would you recommend a 10 or 20 Moa mount for this scope or does flat work

20 MOA all the things. I have a Badger Ord mount on mine, and even in .260 it's not enough to reach a mile.

The farthest range I can find in kansas is 1k yards
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