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Posted: 3/27/2014 10:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: I just ordered an AEM5 for my Mod 1 - looks like I'm going full out on this rifle. This wait is going to SUCK... ETA: and I'm now broke for the next couple years. I won't be that bad with the e-file. You just gotta forget you're waiting on it. Shit I'm only one week in after filing myself. |
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Posted: 3/27/2014 10:36:05 PM EDT
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Tag for full auto suppressed MK 12 action...
~Augee |
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Posted: 3/27/2014 10:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: This wait is going to SUCK... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: I just ordered an AEM5 for my Mod 1 - looks like I'm going full out on this rifle. This wait is going to SUCK... ETA: and I'm now broke for the next couple years. I won't be that bad with the e-file. You just gotta forget you're waiting on it. Shit I'm only one week in after filing myself. You'll have to let me know how much fun shooting your suppressed Mk12 for the first time is this weekend... |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2014 11:38:47 PM EDT
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Made some small moves towards spec:
A2 grip is temporary, until I get an A1 in. A1 stock is a CavArms, at some point I might get me a USGI one, maybe the one without the trapdoor. Yes, I know about the can. That's on the to-do list. Not sure if I'll have AEM5 funds this year or not, we are buying a house and the monthly costs for stuff like healthcare are higher than expected. Still, my wife put me in line for a KAC rail from Wes, and we've sort of an arrangement that whenever the PRI early Gen parts hit the market, I'm cleared hot to nab them. Then I just need some Nodak lowers, Douglas barrels, and a few Colt's 6920 donor rifles to go full-buttsex on Mk12 clones 
On another note, has anyone else but me considered just grinding down the lever stops on their late production ARMS rings? Are there any other significant differences I'm not aware of between old and new? I figure just strategically Dremel them bitches off, hit it with grill paint, and just camo over em anyways. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 12:03:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
The previous owner said it wasn't releasing the hammer in his SR25...but it works perfectly in my AR15 lower and I function tested it like 100 times and dry fired it. Anyone have any ideas with these KAC triggers what could be acting funny? (so I know what to look out for in the future if it craps out on me like it did the previous owner?) The only problems I was aware of were caused by the screw used to take-up trigger creep. Locktite it and call it good. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
The KAC 2-stage I got in the EE as 'defective' works perfectly for me...kind of lucked out. Anyone have any ideas with these KAC triggers what could be acting funny? (so I know what to look out for in the future if it craps out on me like it did the previous owner?) The only problems I was aware of were caused by the screw used to take-up trigger creep. Locktite it and call it good. It could also be the lower trigger pins location tolerance....I had an armalite 2 stage that failed to reset in several of my lowers...sold it to some guy and it worked perfectly...go figure. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 12:44:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: I just ordered an AEM5 for my Mod 1 - looks like I'm going full out on this rifle. This wait is going to SUCK... ETA: and I'm now broke for the next couple years. I won't be that bad with the e-file. You just gotta forget you're waiting on it. Shit I'm only one week in after filing myself. You'll have to let me know how much fun shooting your suppressed Mk12 for the first time is this weekend... Ain't happening. Weather is gonna suck and I figure if I'm blowing off a close couple's wedding, it better be for stellar conditions. So, I'm going to the wedding.  There will be another suppressor shoot soon, I'm sure. We're JUST into spring and it honestly hasn't felt much like spring yet so they'll do another I bet. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:00:42 AM EDT
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I'm going to run a type E but you other Mod1'ers take note...........GEN 1 SOPMOD'S in the EE
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:24:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: ETA: and I'm now broke for the next couple years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: I just ordered an AEM5 for my Mod 1 - looks like I'm going full out on this rifle. This wait is going to SUCK... ETA: and I'm now broke for the next couple years. I won't be that bad with the e-file. You just gotta forget you're waiting on it. Shit I'm only one week in after filing myself. You'll have to let me know how much fun shooting your suppressed Mk12 for the first time is this weekend... Ain't happening. Weather is gonna suck and I figure if I'm blowing off a close couple's wedding, it better be for stellar conditions. So, I'm going to the wedding. There will be another suppressor shoot soon, I'm sure. We're JUST into spring and it honestly hasn't felt much like spring yet so they'll do another I bet. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:32:06 AM EDT
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What kind of life expectancy will a Douglas Mk12 barrel yield?
What sort of round count before significant accuracy loss?
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:20:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gunnut003]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
What kind of life expectancy will a Douglas Mk12 barrel yield? What sort of round count before significant accuracy loss? Even at only 5000 rounds for the barrel, you will have spent $5000 in ammo costs for the Mk262...what is another $450 for a new barrel....IF the accuracy gets unacceptable? AT least that is the way I am planning to think about it.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:35:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunnut003:
Even at only 5000 rounds for the barrel, you will have spent $5000 in ammo costs for the Mk262...what is another $450 for a new barrel....IF the accuracy gets unacceptable? AT least that is the way I am planning to think about it.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunnut003:
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
What kind of life expectancy will a Douglas Mk12 barrel yield? What sort of round count before significant accuracy loss? Even at only 5000 rounds for the barrel, you will have spent $5000 in ammo costs for the Mk262...what is another $450 for a new barrel....IF the accuracy gets unacceptable? AT least that is the way I am planning to think about it.
Exactly. If you can afford to shoot the barrel out, then replacing it shouldn't be a problem. That is if you actually shoot it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:42:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
What kind of life expectancy will a Douglas Mk12 barrel yield? What sort of round count before significant accuracy loss? The krieger, from what I've read, will last almost double. I figure it's worth the extra 70 or so bucks from CLE over the douglas, so that's what I'm going for. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 8:30:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Made some small moves towards spec: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/mvmpPx" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/13459296113_b00024e885_b.jpg</a> A2 grip is temporary, until I get an A1 in. A1 stock is a CavArms, at some point I might get me a USGI one, maybe the one without the trapdoor. Yes, I know about the can. That's on the to-do list. Not sure if I'll have AEM5 funds this year or not, we are buying a house and the monthly costs for stuff like healthcare are higher than expected. Still, my wife put me in line for a KAC rail from Wes, and we've sort of an arrangement that whenever the PRI early Gen parts hit the market, I'm cleared hot to nab them. Then I just need some Nodak lowers, Douglas barrels, and a few Colt's 6920 donor rifles to go full-buttsex on Mk12 clones
On another note, has anyone else but me considered just grinding down the lever stops on their late production ARMS rings? Are there any other significant differences I'm not aware of between old and new? I figure just strategically Dremel them bitches off, hit it with grill paint, and just camo over em anyways. Thoughts? What is it about a MK12 with mismatched parts (painted parts, unpainted parts, parts painted different colors) that looks so appealing? |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 8:36:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 8NAK4:
What is it about a MK12 with mismatched parts (painted parts, unpainted parts, parts painted different colors) that looks so appealing? Authenticity, my man. It's the same reason worn rattle-can paint jobs look better than those that are disassembled and professionally cerakoted and, if you ask me, it's the reason why we get into building clones. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 8:58:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex: Authenticity, my man. It's the same reason worn rattle-can paint jobs look better than those that are disassembled and professionally cerakoted and, if you ask me, it's the reason why we get into building clones. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex: Originally Posted By 8NAK4: What is it about a MK12 with mismatched parts (painted parts, unpainted parts, parts painted different colors) that looks so appealing? Authenticity, my man. It's the same reason worn rattle-can paint jobs look better than those that are disassembled and professionally cerakoted and, if you ask me, it's the reason why we get into building clones. Could not agree more. Freshly-coated rifles are about as boring as unpainted black rifles. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 9:28:40 AM EDT
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It will take some serious contemplation to paint my almost-complete mod holland... It's just so dayuum pretty
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 9:35:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
It will take some serious contemplation to paint my almost-complete mod holland... It's just so dayuum pretty It took me almost a year to get the cahones to paint my Mod 1. I have yet to look back.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 9:51:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: It will take some serious contemplation to paint my almost-complete mod holland... It's just so dayuum pretty It ain't complete until it's painted.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 9:57:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 8NAK4:
It took me almost a year to get the cahones to paint my Mod 1. I have yet to look back. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 8NAK4:
Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
It will take some serious contemplation to paint my almost-complete mod holland... It's just so dayuum pretty It took me almost a year to get the cahones to paint my Mod 1. I have yet to look back. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 11:40:28 AM EDT
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I vote paint. Speaking of votes there's only been one vote for Holland and none for Mod 1. C'mon people, don't you want to spend my money?
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Posted: 3/28/2014 11:42:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
http://imageshack.com/a/img203/793/efi4.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img31/6964/i1zi.jpg I vote paint. Speaking of votes there's only been one vote for Holland and none for Mod 1. C'mon people, don't you want to spend my money? I'll vote holland as well. Don't see a lot of them around here. What sling is on that rifle? |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 11:45:31 AM EDT
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It's a VTAC
It's stolen off of my FDE build. Been too cheap to give the Mk12 it's own sling, but when I do it'll be another VTAC. Probably padded. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 12:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flyit14: I'll vote holland as well. Don't see a lot of them around here. What sling is on that rifle? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flyit14: Originally Posted By Hunterex: http://imageshack.com/a/img203/793/efi4.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img31/6964/i1zi.jpg I vote paint. Speaking of votes there's only been one vote for Holland and none for Mod 1. C'mon people, don't you want to spend my money? I'll vote holland as well. Don't see a lot of them around here. What sling is on that rifle? I vote Mod 1 - only because you already have a Mod 0 - I think a Mod 1 would be a great addition to the collection. Though I do think Holland's are cool as hell.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 12:05:55 PM EDT
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Hunter, very nice Mod 0. Is that an A.R.M.S bi pod mount? Great paint job. How far have you stretched it's legs?
I STILL HAVE AN EXTRA KAC RAIL FOR A MOD 1 AVAILIBLE. IF NO ONE WANTS IT, IT'S GOING ON GUNBROKER.COM. $360 plus shipping, that's what I paid for it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 12:17:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Oregonian1:
Hunter, very nice Mod 0. Is that an A.R.M.S bi pod mount? Great paint job. How far have you stretched it's legs? I STILL HAVE AN EXTRA KAC RAIL FOR A MOD 1 AVAILIBLE. IF NO ONE WANTS IT, IT'S GOING ON GUNBROKER.COM. $360 plus shipping, that's what I paid for it. This is NOT the place to sell shit. Click on the orange "Equipment Exchange" button. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 12:36:36 PM EDT
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I need your collective wisdom, I've asked this before but didn't get an answer.
For a MK12MOD0 with a sliding stock, what are my front and rear sling point options? I'd prefer one that attached around the buffer tube like a magpul RSA rather than something that loops around the actual stock. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 12:50:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cmcflex]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Syntribos:
I need your collective wisdom, I've asked this before but didn't get an answer. For a MK12MOD0 with a sliding stock, what are my front and rear sling point options? I'd prefer one that attached around the buffer tube like a magpul RSA rather than something that loops around the actual stock. I am using the TangoDown PR-4 because I don't want to break my factory Colt staking. There may be others, but I like the PR-4 because I have seen it used in pics, though not necessarily on a Mk12. I think Tactical Link makes one that I have seen on a CQBR. Note these support QD swivels. If you are willing to remove the receiver extension, then you have many options, such as KAC, CQD, Noveske, etc. I tried to use a sling mounted on my stock, and I'm not a huge fan. ETA: the above is in regard to rear sling mounts. To keep it clonealicious (i.e., real), I rock KAC front swivels, but I have also seen slings looped through CQD mounts. It all really comes down to your connection methods. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:03:55 PM EDT
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cmcflex, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed today? Way to go junior high over a fellow Mk12 fan giving the community first crack at an extra Mod 1 rail. I am not trying to make money, I didn't post a link to a gunbroker add, get over yourself. I'm not butthurt and you didn't hurt my feelings. It just pisses me off when people want to jump all over people on the internet because they can hide behind their computer and pretend to be important to other random strangers on the internet. Nicely reminding someone that selling things is supposed to be done on the EE instead of being harsh goes a long way. This is a community and we're all on the same side.
Syntribos the RSA is a front sling attachment. On the top of 434 is a repost of a pic from pg 2 I think with a rear QD swivel between the receiver and buttstock. No, it's not a purists part but if it works for you and isn't a major deviation, like trying to pass the DD Mk12 off as a Mk12 or using the Armalite look a like rail for a Mod 1, it's your rifle. Rock it how you want. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:36:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Syntribos: I need your collective wisdom, I've asked this before but didn't get an answer. For a MK12MOD0 with a sliding stock, what are my front and rear sling point options? I'd prefer one that attached around the buffer tube like a magpul RSA rather than something that loops around the actual stock. QD sockets, front and rear. My Mk12 is wearing an old Colt fiberlite stock, and to get a QD socket to work with it, I just drilled a hole in the webbing and used a countersink bit to hollow it out a little so the retention ball-bearings in the QD would engage. Works great but I really don't use a sling with this rifle much so I don't have any photos of it in use.   |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:49:25 PM EDT
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Very nice Utah. How do you like that CAR stock for precision? Besides being different and looking good, I bet that actually is better than a fixed A1 or 2. Do you use your support hand to push the stock to your shoulder? If so the flange of that CAR and the shorter height would probably make it very comfortable. Interesting how newer, more expensive stocks come along that do the same thing for more money. For collapsible stocks, IMO the best out there for precision is the Vltor EMOD. There is a pic somewhere on here of a Mk12 with one. I'm sure some end user has had one but it just doesn't look right. For fixed, the PRS is king. Even though there is a pic of a Mk12 or two with those as well, they just look better with the more classic stocks.
How are you liking your version with the ARMS rail? Good cheek weld with that stock and riser? Much better for NTCH shooting. Looks great. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:07:30 PM EDT
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Assuming that most (probably all) of you have match triggers in your MK12s, was there ever a point where initially you just ran a standard mil issue trigger until you had funds for the correct match trigger? Or did you have the match trigger installed before you hit the range for the very first time? I really want the SSA, but at the moment I'm kinda broke, so I may have to just use the standard trigger until I can acquire the SSA. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:16:41 PM EDT
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you could always snag an ALG ACT or QMS and add JP springs to it.
i've done that for a cheap "better" trigger on a few guns. works quite well, and doesn't break the bank. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:17:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Assuming that most (probably all) of you have match triggers in your MK12s, was there ever a point where initially you just ran a standard mil issue trigger until you had funds for the correct match trigger? Or did you have the match trigger installed before you hit the range for the very first time? I really want the SSA, but at the moment I'm kinda broke, so I may have to just use the standard trigger until I can acquire the SSA. IIRC Stukas87 among other end-users have reported putting earlier MOD 0 uppers on M4A1 lowers so they could use the collapsible stock - presumably (this being before the Geissele SSF) they would have had standard FCGs? ~Augee |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:28:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee: IIRC Stukas87 among other end-users have reported putting earlier MOD 0 uppers on M4A1 lowers so they could use the collapsible stock - presumably (this being before the Geissele SSF) they would have had standard FCGs? ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Assuming that most (probably all) of you have match triggers in your MK12s, was there ever a point where initially you just ran a standard mil issue trigger until you had funds for the correct match trigger? Or did you have the match trigger installed before you hit the range for the very first time? I really want the SSA, but at the moment I'm kinda broke, so I may have to just use the standard trigger until I can acquire the SSA. IIRC Stukas87 among other end-users have reported putting earlier MOD 0 uppers on M4A1 lowers so they could use the collapsible stock - presumably (this being before the Geissele SSF) they would have had standard FCGs? ~Augee Very interesting - had no idea.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret: you could always snag an ALG ACT or QMS and add JP springs to it. i've done that for a cheap "better" trigger on a few guns. works quite well, and doesn't break the bank. Good to know - thanks!
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Posted: 3/28/2014 2:33:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: the-answer-is-42]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Good to know - thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
you could always snag an ALG ACT or QMS and add JP springs to it. i've done that for a cheap "better" trigger on a few guns. works quite well, and doesn't break the bank. Good to know - thanks! Scour the EE for KAC trigger, they come up for around 100-125 sometimes. By the time you add springs to an ALG trigger that's within 30$ of a used KAC. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 3:38:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Oregonian1:
Hunter, very nice Mod 0. Is that an A.R.M.S bi pod mount? Great paint job. How far have you stretched it's legs? I STILL HAVE AN EXTRA KAC RAIL FOR A MOD 1 AVAILIBLE. IF NO ONE WANTS IT, IT'S GOING ON GUNBROKER.COM. $360 plus shipping, that's what I paid for it. Thanks. Yes, it's the arms mount. Sadly I've only shot to a hundred yards with it. It's a stretch for me to get to a longer range and I've yet to make the time. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 4:02:57 PM EDT
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Is the TS-30 A2 not avail anymore? I really want a 9-10 power scope if possible...
I've been looking at getting the Vortex Viper 2.5-10x32 FFP instead of a Leupold for various reasons...and it's winning me over 
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Posted: 3/28/2014 4:14:35 PM EDT
[#39]
It's still available per the le/mil price list.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 4:25:41 PM EDT
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Mattyvac, I have that Viper PST 2.5-10x32 FFP mil/mil on my 308 AR. It's awesome. It is NOT an NXS but does give you something to think about. Price for one. Yeah, it's not American but at least it's not Chinese. I will be putting one of these on my Mod 1 build by either buying a second or stealing it from the 308 and putting a 4-16 on the bigger gun. This is my 3rd Viper PST and am really happy with it. Their customer service is awesome. Vortex has come out with a EBR-2C for the 6-24. It's a Christmas tree reticle to allow for easier holding for wind/elevation than dialing if you want. Currently they said it's only for the 6-24 and can be retro'd for a fee. The rep said he couldn't say but I got the hint that in the future other models of PST's could have this reticle too.
No, it's not 100% clone but I'm not going to lose sleep over putting one on my rifle. I'm going to be more concerned with Utah's chainsaw when I finally get to post a pic of a complete rifle and he see's I've got a SAS can so I don't need the Ops collar and break! Aside from the can/mount and the scope, I'm going to be as close without having a REAL Mk12 as I can. I'll just post a pic with the can on so people will be able to stomach my abomination easier. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 4:30:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac: Is the TS-30 A2 not avail anymore? I really want a 9-10 power scope if possible... I've been looking at getting the Vortex Viper 2.5-10x32 FFP instead of a Leupold for various reasons...and it's winning me over I just got mine (TS-30 A2) in the mail today - will post pics later tonight. This thing is NICE. ETA: I should clarify that this is not an original TS-30 A2 - the scopes that Leupold is now selling are just standard illuminated Mk4 2.5-8x36s, but with the 77 grain Mk12 Mod 1 elevation turret instead of the M2. I think that's really the only difference from the standard model with the M2 knobs and the one they're marketing as the TS-30 A2? |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 4:37:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
QD sockets, front and rear. My Mk12 is wearing an old Colt fiberlite stock, and to get a QD socket to work with it, I just drilled a hole in the webbing and used a countersink bit to hollow it out a little so the retention ball-bearings in the QD would engage. Works great but I really don't use a sling with this rifle much so I don't have any photos of it in use. http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/ARs/paintstep5_zps90e56838.jpeg http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/ARs/lrkit1_zpscea7b7db.jpeg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Syntribos:
I need your collective wisdom, I've asked this before but didn't get an answer. For a MK12MOD0 with a sliding stock, what are my front and rear sling point options? I'd prefer one that attached around the buffer tube like a magpul RSA rather than something that loops around the actual stock. QD sockets, front and rear. My Mk12 is wearing an old Colt fiberlite stock, and to get a QD socket to work with it, I just drilled a hole in the webbing and used a countersink bit to hollow it out a little so the retention ball-bearings in the QD would engage. Works great but I really don't use a sling with this rifle much so I don't have any photos of it in use. http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/ARs/paintstep5_zps90e56838.jpeg http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/ARs/lrkit1_zpscea7b7db.jpeg Utah, do you plan on putting anything on the TRC/TRR or is it just there for shits and giggles? I also run the #36 SEX rail and have the TRC/TRR standing by for a future Mod 0 build not being utilized. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 4:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
I just got mine (TS-30 A2) in the mail today - will post pics later tonight. This thing is NICE. ETA: I should clarify that this is not an original TS-30 A2 - the scopes that Leupold is now selling are just standard illuminated Mk4 2.5-8x36s, but with the 77 grain Mk12 Mod 1 elevation turret instead of the M2. I think that's really the only difference from the standard model with the M2 knobs and the one they're marketing as the TS-30 A2? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Is the TS-30 A2 not avail anymore? I really want a 9-10 power scope if possible... I've been looking at getting the Vortex Viper 2.5-10x32 FFP instead of a Leupold for various reasons...and it's winning me over I just got mine (TS-30 A2) in the mail today - will post pics later tonight. This thing is NICE. ETA: I should clarify that this is not an original TS-30 A2 - the scopes that Leupold is now selling are just standard illuminated Mk4 2.5-8x36s, but with the 77 grain Mk12 Mod 1 elevation turret instead of the M2. I think that's really the only difference from the standard model with the M2 knobs and the one they're marketing as the TS-30 A2? Awesome. That's the next scope I intend to buy. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 5:00:28 PM EDT
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Utah and other's who are running the A.R.M.S. rail on their MOD1's......
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Posted: 3/28/2014 5:07:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5: Utah and other's who are running the A.R.M.S. rail on their MOD1's...... What height rings are you using? My rings are Highs. I hate trying to burry my face into the stock. Ack, the TRC and rail is just for aesthetics. It's actually the ONE part about these rifles that just really got me stirred. I loved how it looked when I first saw it on a Mod0 and it's the whole reason I got into Mk12s in the first place, lol.
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Posted: 3/28/2014 5:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
My rings are Highs. I hate trying to burry my face into the stock. Ack, the TRC and rail is just for aesthetics. It's actually the ONE part about these rifles that just really got me stirred. I loved how it looked when I first saw it on a Mod0 and it's the whole reason I got into Mk12s in the first place, lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Utah and other's who are running the A.R.M.S. rail on their MOD1's...... What height rings are you using? My rings are Highs. I hate trying to burry my face into the stock. Ack, the TRC and rail is just for aesthetics. It's actually the ONE part about these rifles that just really got me stirred. I loved how it looked when I first saw it on a Mod0 and it's the whole reason I got into Mk12s in the first place, lol. Any alignment problems between the A.R.M.S. rear flip up and the KAC front flip up? It there an A.R.M.S. rail that doesn't have the rear flip up? |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 5:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Utah and other's who are running the A.R.M.S. rail on their MOD1's...... What height rings are you using? I would go with the medium rings. It'd put it the same height as a Mod 0. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 5:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Utah and other's who are running the A.R.M.S. rail on their MOD1's...... What height rings are you using? At first I ran the mediums that I had on hand from Mod 0 parts but I later went with the low rings since that fit me better. I mostly shoot from the prone and the mediums and highs caused some straining after an extended period of time. The A.R.M.S. rail is about .5" in height so add that to the height of the rings to find out where the center line of your optic will be. The rail and mediums came out to be higher than high rings on their own. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 5:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5: Any alignment problems between the A.R.M.S. rear flip up and the KAC front flip up? It there an A.R.M.S. rail that doesn't have the rear flip up? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By Engineer5: Utah and other's who are running the A.R.M.S. rail on their MOD1's...... What height rings are you using? My rings are Highs. I hate trying to burry my face into the stock. Ack, the TRC and rail is just for aesthetics. It's actually the ONE part about these rifles that just really got me stirred. I loved how it looked when I first saw it on a Mod0 and it's the whole reason I got into Mk12s in the first place, lol. Any alignment problems between the A.R.M.S. rear flip up and the KAC front flip up? It there an A.R.M.S. rail that doesn't have the rear flip up? The S-Ex rail has the sight built into the rail; it's not sitting on top of the rail, it shares the same plane. It's no different than a regular BUIS mounted to the rail, so no, there is no alignment issues with the KAC front sight. And yes, ARMS makes the S-Ex without the sight; what I think is pretty trick would be to trim the back of the S-Ex rail so that it would mate flush up to a KAC rear sight. Someone already did that and posted pics but it was many moons ago in this thread. |
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Posted: 3/28/2014 6:03:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
The S-Ex rail has the sight built into the rail; it's not sitting on top of the rail, it shares the same plane. It's no different than a regular BUIS mounted to the rail, so no, there is no alignment issues with the KAC front sight. And yes, ARMS makes the S-Ex without the sight; what I think is pretty trick would be to trim the back of the S-Ex rail so that it would mate flush up to a KAC rear sight. Someone already did that and posted pics but it was many moons ago in this thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Utah and other's who are running the A.R.M.S. rail on their MOD1's...... What height rings are you using? My rings are Highs. I hate trying to burry my face into the stock. Ack, the TRC and rail is just for aesthetics. It's actually the ONE part about these rifles that just really got me stirred. I loved how it looked when I first saw it on a Mod0 and it's the whole reason I got into Mk12s in the first place, lol. Any alignment problems between the A.R.M.S. rear flip up and the KAC front flip up? It there an A.R.M.S. rail that doesn't have the rear flip up? The S-Ex rail has the sight built into the rail; it's not sitting on top of the rail, it shares the same plane. It's no different than a regular BUIS mounted to the rail, so no, there is no alignment issues with the KAC front sight. And yes, ARMS makes the S-Ex without the sight; what I think is pretty trick would be to trim the back of the S-Ex rail so that it would mate flush up to a KAC rear sight. Someone already did that and posted pics but it was many moons ago in this thread. That was me. I cut the #36 SEX to fit the KAC sight before paint http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/NateDogg8732/image-56.jpg other side after paint http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/NateDogg8732/image-55.jpg |
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