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Magpul MS3 QD Sling Counterfeit?
TangledThorns  [Member]
I think I just had my first experience with a knock off product. I found a Magpul MS3 QD Sling on Amazon for $40 and it arrived today. I could tell something was not right by the feel of the product, plus the clip is plastic and the QD swivel seems loose. Below are some pics.








Where I ordered it from:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D28BDK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Where I think they ordered it from. You can see how plastic the clip is.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Magpul-MS3-QD-Multi-Mission-Sling-System-Coyote-Brown-Free-Shipping/509044_612638282.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/Magpul-MS3-QD-Multi-Mission-Sling-System-Coyote-Brown-Free-Shipping/612638282.html

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Mach  [Team Member]
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Your stitching looks different and the QD swivel should be dark, not silver, unless that is just the pic.

If it is fake, it is a very good fake.
Mach  [Team Member]
And the clip looks wrong like you mentioned
Mach  [Team Member]
Maybe it is an early production one? Companies do make minor changes to products along the way.

Contact magpul and show them the pics and those web sites.
Mach  [Team Member]
I bought an MS3 yesterday at a far from me gun shop for $46.

Now I am wondering if it is fake.
TangledThorns  [Member]
Thanks, I'll send it to Magpul. I'm quite certain its counterfeit. You can just feel genuine quality when you hold a Magpul product.
RyJones  [Team Member]
Well, I bought this one, which looks like yours (except the QD button)
TangledThorns  [Member]
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Well, I bought this one, which looks like yours (except the QD button)


Is the clips steel or plastic? According the Magpul site they should be steel. Also, the webbing is supposed to be 1.25 inch wide, the one I bought is 1.1 so I'm very certain what I bought is a fake. I'll wait on Magpul's confirmation before I pursue this with the seller and Amazon.
RyJones  [Team Member]
the part that goes over something (the actual clip) is attracted to a magnet. the rest of the body of the clip is not. My webbing is 1.25" wide.
LongmontBonMot  [Industry Partner]
Yes, the silver QD is a dead give away that it is not authentic (as well as a few other things.)

The real MS3 clips do use a steel hook on a polymer body, so that in itself is not a flag.
TangledThorns  [Member]
Thanks, I'll pursue this with the seller.

Update: Amazon moved fast and is already processing my refund.
optictac  [Member]
I believe the sling you received is counterfeit, like the one I received from an Amazon vendor last week. I paid $42.56. I also have a regular MS3 (non QD) which I bought from a reputable vendor. Comparing the two led me to suspect that the QD I received from the Amazon vendor was a counterfeit. A helpful representative at Magpul confirmed my concern. He told me that two ways to spot a counterfeit are: 1.) The QD part of a genuine Magpul MS3 QD is Melonite black (not gray/silver like yours and mine), 2.) The metal portion of the Paraclip on a genuine MS3 is steel. Put a magnet against it and it will stick to it. The metal part of a fake is nonmagnetic (it is aluminum according to Magpul customer service agent). I also noticed that the model number on the packaging of the fake I received (and yours, as seen in one of your pictures) states "MAG503". The QD version is actually model "MAG506". I guess the counterfeiting crooks haven't yet had time to print up fake packaging for the new QD version. The vendor I bought it from is processing a refund, but want me to return the counterfeit part at my expense. I am in discussion with them, as I don't believe I should have to pay to return a bogus product. I no longer see on Amazon the listing of the vendor who sold me the counterfeit sling. From here on I'll only be buying from reputable vendors!
Fantomas  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By TangledThorns:
I think I just had my first experience with a knock off product. I found a Magpul MS3 QD Sling on Amazon for $40 and it arrived today. I could tell something was not right by the feel of the product, plus the clip is plastic and the QD swivel seems loose. Below are some pics.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/TangledThorns/Magpul/IMG_1228.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/TangledThorns/Magpul/IMG_1230.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/TangledThorns/Magpul/IMG_1231.jpg

Where I ordered it from:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D28BDK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Where I think they ordered it from. You can see how plastic the clip is.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Magpul-MS3-QD-Multi-Mission-Sling-System-Coyote-Brown-Free-Shipping/509044_612638282.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/Magpul-MS3-QD-Multi-Mission-Sling-System-Coyote-Brown-Free-Shipping/612638282.html



In Stock. Sold by Botach Tactical

so you bought it from BOTACH

one more reason to stay away from them


LongmontBonMot  [Industry Partner]
Originally Posted By Fantomas:
Originally Posted By TangledThorns:

Where I ordered it from:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D28BDK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00



In Stock. Sold by Botach Tactical

so you bought it from BOTACH

one more reason to stay away from them




I'm not sure that is true - it may simply be the link to the product page with one of the many sellers highlighted. TangledThorns can you confirm the name of the seller from your order information?
d1jinx  [Team Member]
I was concerned about this so I just paid full price from Midway. Of course I wanted to save a buck, but with so many counterfit items out, I played it safe and stuck with a big Name vendor.
HuskyKMA  [Member]
Originally Posted By LongmontBonMot:
Originally Posted By Fantomas:
Originally Posted By TangledThorns:

Where I ordered it from:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D28BDK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00



In Stock. Sold by Botach Tactical

so you bought it from BOTACH

one more reason to stay away from them




I'm not sure that is true - it may simply be the link to the product page with one of the many sellers highlighted. TangledThorns can you confirm the name of the seller from your order information?


Right, Amazon pages will show the lowest priced seller as the primary one, it doesn't necessarily mean he bought it from Botach. In this case, there are several sellers with the same price, so different people will see different sellers. For me it showed Mounting Solutions Plus.
TangledThorns  [Member]
Originally Posted By Fantomas:
In Stock. Sold by Botach Tactical

so you bought it from BOTACH

one more reason to stay away from them




This was bought through another Amazon reseller that was replaced by a link through Botach. I've ordered from Botach before and they sell legit products, as long as its in stock which they didn't. I ended up ordering the sling through Primary Arms and when it arrived, automatically I could tell it was original Magpul.

I still have the counterfeit sling, I'm not sure what to do with it yet.
Gifters  [Team Member]
Sell it on ebay
mean_sartin  [Team Member]
Sell it to an airsofter.
RyJones  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By mean_sartin:
Sell it to an airsofter.


I'd cut it up and throw it in the trash. Why run the risk of it being pawned off on another unsuspecting customer?
mean_sartin  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By mean_sartin:
Sell it to an airsofter.


I'd cut it up and throw it in the trash. Why run the risk of it being pawned off on another unsuspecting customer?


I'd sell it as a knock off for like $20. I bet kids would be all over it.
RyJones  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By mean_sartin:
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By mean_sartin:
Sell it to an airsofter.


I'd cut it up and throw it in the trash. Why run the risk of it being pawned off on another unsuspecting customer?


I'd sell it as a knock off for like $20. I bet kids would be all over it.


the next guy (the one the kids sell to) might not be fully informed.
TangledThorns  [Member]
I'll check if any airsofters want it.
mean_sartin  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By mean_sartin:
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By mean_sartin:
Sell it to an airsofter.


I'd cut it up and throw it in the trash. Why run the risk of it being pawned off on another unsuspecting customer?


I'd sell it as a knock off for like $20. I bet kids would be all over it.


the next guy (the one the kids sell to) might not be fully informed.


Good point
rcdowd  [Member]
I fell for the same thing, makes for a good dog toy though
Sawyer  [Team Member]
I think I got a fake one too. I got it for a gift for xmas, and I think the buyer got it from amazon.
I tried the magnet test that optictac posted above. The magnet sticks to the spring from the side, but not to any other area of the clips.
Also, there was a sticker over the corner of the upc, when I took it off it said it was the black version. Mine is the fde one.

I cant seem to get good closeup pictures of the sling right now, but can someone let me know if it is fake from what I posted above, or the crappy pics?















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