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Gettin' some good info in this thread.
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Tested mine today. Started on 3rd pull. Ran 5 hours on ~0.5gal fuel w/ no load. Only hooked a 2hp wet/dry vac up to it for ~60s. Voltage held steady at ~117Vac w/ wet/dry vac connected. Do not know how many amps the vac actually drew.
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This thread has been dead for a month.... Bump for updates.
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Originally Posted By Blackoperations:
This thread has been dead for a month.... Bump for updates. Broken in per owners manual, oil in the cylinder, Stihl 2 cycle oil on the shelf, stabil'ed gas in the shed. |
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Getting an education in this thread.. hope they go back on sale soon....
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Originally Posted By jeepin_gunner:
Getting an education in this thread.. hope they go back on sale soon.... I think they are $89 day after thanksgiving. Look online for the black friday sales paper. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Originally Posted By jeepin_gunner:
Getting an education in this thread.. hope they go back on sale soon.... I just picked up the Dec. 6 Shotgun News and there's a coupon for the generator for $89.99, good until 3/20/11. There's also a 20% off coupon in the same ad. Sounds like people have combined the coupons for a steal of a deal. |
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Tried to run mine over the Thanksgiving weekend. Would not run unless the choke was on at least a little bit. All of the other items I had stored since then ran fine. Bought it in October so I didn't think the fuel would go bad that quickly. No fuel saver in this tank as I forgot. Also I topped of the tank with fresh 93 octane fuel. I ran some seafoam in the tank before I quit on it Sunday so I will try it again this weekend. Pulled the plug and it was wet but not fouled.
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Easily 25 hours on mine now. Most recently have been using it to run a very small compressor (600 watt) used to charge a spud gun my son and I built. Zero problems.
When I'm through using mine I shut off the fuel valve and let it run until dry. This should keep the needle and seat in the carb from getting gummed up. Also i if don't use it for 2-3 weeks I will fire it up and run the tank dry running something in the garage. Still toying with the idea of getting a larger unit for backup power for the house. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Fired mine up this weekend...5 weeks since last run. Mf'er to start, but finally got em going. Shitty ethanol gas and no stabilizer (fixed that) and colder than hell. Got them purring and they ran for about 4hrs on less than a 1/2 tank (I think) and were still going when I decided to shut them off! Wonderful little buggers, they are
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Originally Posted By JoeRedman: Fired mine up this weekend...5 weeks since last run. Mf'er to start, but finally got em going. Shitty ethanol gas and no stabilizer (fixed that) and colder than hell. Got them purring and they ran for about 4hrs on less than a 1/2 tank (I think) and were still going when I decided to shut them off! Wonderful little buggers, they are Took mine out and sprayed a little starting fluid in mine and it start right up last weekend. Temps where high 20's to the mid 30's. |
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Originally Posted By JoeRedman: Fired mine up this weekend...5 weeks since last run. Mf'er to start, but finally got em going. Shitty ethanol gas and no stabilizer (fixed that) and colder than hell. Got them purring and they ran for about 4hrs on less than a 1/2 tank (I think) and were still going when I decided to shut them off! Wonderful little buggers, they are Took mine out and sprayed a little starting fluid in mine and it start right up last weekend. Temps where high 20's to the mid 30's. |
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me and a friend of mine picked one of these up on black friday. we changed the spark plug out on them and started the brake in. i ran mine and hooked up a 400watt light to it. it seemed to run for way longer than 5 hours for me guys.
what genny would you pick if you wanted one around 2000 watts and i'm not talking peak here that won't brake the bank and will run for awhile on a tank of fuel? the problem wih bigger gennies is they will cost a arm and leg to run if power goes out. i figure i can run mu deep freezes on the small 900 watt genny and get a bigger one around 2000 watts to run a few lights,frig and lcd tv on. we have a cabin we hunt out of. my dad has a 1500watt coleman genny. it runs all the lights,tv and dvd/vcr player not problem for awhile off a tank of fuel. has anybody tried the harbor frieght gennies in that power range guys? |
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Originally Posted By gonzo999:
What genny would you pick if you wanted one around 2000 watts and i'm not talking peak here that won't brake the bank and will run for awhile on a tank of fuel? the problem wih bigger gennies is they will cost a arm and leg to run if power goes out. i figure i can run mu deep freezes on the small 900 watt genny and get a bigger one around 2000 watts to run a few lights,frig and lcd tv on. Nowadays, there aren't a lot of non-inverter models being manufactured in the 2,000 watt range - Most folks either go for something in the 1,000 - 1,500 watt range, or in the 3,000 - 4,000 watt range. If you could stand to go a little smaller, the Champion 42431 is a very nice little generator that can be had on ebay for less than $200, delivered. The 1200 watt rated power output is pretty conservative - There are RVers running small air conditioners with it. Champion enjoys a better reputation for quality and customer service than Harbor Freight. They are an American-owned company that operates their own factory in China. The parts and service department is here in America, and the technicians speak English as a first language. |
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Originally Posted By gonzo999: me and a friend of mine picked one of these up on black friday. we changed the spark plug out on them and started the brake in. i ran mine and hooked up a 400watt light to it. it seemed to run for way longer than 5 hours for me guys. what genny would you pick if you wanted one around 2000 watts and i'm not talking peak here that won't brake the bank and will run for awhile on a tank of fuel? the problem wih bigger gennies is they will cost a arm and leg to run if power goes out. i figure i can run mu deep freezes on the small 900 watt genny and get a bigger one around 2000 watts to run a few lights,frig and lcd tv on. we have a cabin we hunt out of. my dad has a 1500watt coleman genny. it runs all the lights,tv and dvd/vcr player not problem for awhile off a tank of fuel. has anybody tried the harbor frieght gennies in that power range guys? I asked this same question earlier in the thread. I think it was Skibane that pointed me to this generator: http://tinyurl.com/275ggm7 It is on my short list for after the holidays. You can find more info on this a few pages back. Seems like the sweet spot in price/performance for camping. |
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nope. that costs to much and has to big of a tank to do what i want. we have a 1200 watt coleman that will run for 9 hours on a 1.32 gallon tank. we use it at the families hunting cabin. i have found several others i was looking at for about a $100 less and are rated at 2000 watts on the web. sportsmans giude has them. this one doesn't say how long it runs on one tank. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/alton-1850-watt-generator.aspx?a=743262 here is another one. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/2000-watt-portable-generator.aspx?a=693653 here is another one. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/steele-products-2000-watt-generator.aspx?a=500940
does anybody have any of these listed above? i don't want one with over a 1.5 gallon tank. the ideal is to run the lights,frig,tv and maybe dvd player off one this size for awhile incase of another big ice storm this year. one with a super large tank isn't what i want incase i have to run it for a week straight again. |
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Originally Posted By gonzo999:
nope. that costs to much and has to big of a tank to do what i want. we have a 1200 watt coleman that will run for 9 hours on a 1.32 gallon tank. You do know that the amount of fuel consumed greatly depends on how much electrical power is being produced, right? As a very rough rule of thumb, any modern 4-stroke portable gasoline generator will consume about 0.2 gallons per hour, for every 1,000 watts of power produced. When a small generator consumes less gas than a large one, it is largely due to the fact that it is producing less power than the large one. At equal power outputs, there isn't all that much difference in fuel consumption. The only exception to this rule is when the generator is being operated at very light loads. For example, a 2 KW generator that is producing only 500 watts of electricity will be more fuel-efficient than a 10KW generator that is producing only 500 watts, because the smaller generator is still producing a significant percentage of its rated power output, and is still operating within its efficient load range. If your Coleman generator will produce 1200 watts for 9 hours on 1.32 gallons of gas, I'd bet that a 3 or 4 KW generator would also produce 1200 watts for 9 hours on a similar amount of gas. |
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yes i know that. been running our cabin off of them for years. i plan on just running very few things when the power goes out. we have all cfl lights in the rooms i will power and i have a lcd tv that uses less power. heck my frig is even a energy saver frig. a 2000 watter will do me just fine.
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How many of you guys have fired up the HF genny in the cold?
I pulled it a couple dozen times today and couldn't get it fired up. I brought it in the house for a while to warm it up. Then it fired up on the 2nd pull like normal. It stalled a couple times when I turned off the choke too soon. It put out a bunch of smoke for the first few minutes as it got warmed up. It is right around 20 degrees out right now. I have it hooked up to a work light to let it run for a while. Its humming along very happily right now. ETA: I ran it for a little over an hour. It ran as smoothly as it ever did. It just didn't want to start when it was really cold. |
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Originally Posted By Cacinok: Technically, HF does not allow you to combine coupons. It's in the fine print on the coupon. But $89 is a great deal for an emergency generator.Originally Posted By jeepin_gunner: Getting an education in this thread.. hope they go back on sale soon.... I just picked up the Dec. 6 Shotgun News and there's a coupon for the generator for $89.99, good until 3/20/11. There's also a 20% off coupon in the same ad. Sounds like people have combined the coupons for a steal of a deal. |
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Originally Posted By batmanacw:
How many of you guys have fired up the HF genny in the cold? "Cold"? In South Texas? What is this "cold" you speak of? I have a few cans of starting fluid laying around for various purposes. I figure I could probably get the HF generator started by taking off the air cleaner cover, giving the air intake a spritz of the fluid, and then fully closing the choke before yanking the starter rope. I haven't tried it yet (again, mostly due to a severe shortage of "cold" here!), but if you try it in genuinely cold conditions, please let us know how it works for you. |
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:
How many of you guys have fired up the HF genny in the cold? "Cold"? In South Texas? What is this "cold" you speak of? I have a few cans of starting fluid laying around for various purposes. I figure I could probably get the HF generator started by taking off the air cleaner cover, giving the air intake a spritz of the fluid, and then fully closing the choke before yanking the starter rope. I haven't tried it yet (again, mostly due to a severe shortage of "cold" here!), but if you try it in genuinely cold conditions, please let us know how it works for you. I thought of that about the 5th pull. I will pick up some starting fluid in the morning. I can't believe I didn't have any. |
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:
How many of you guys have fired up the HF genny in the cold? "Cold"? In South Texas? What is this "cold" you speak of? I have a few cans of starting fluid laying around for various purposes. I figure I could probably get the HF generator started by taking off the air cleaner cover, giving the air intake a spritz of the fluid, and then fully closing the choke before yanking the starter rope. I haven't tried it yet (again, mostly due to a severe shortage of "cold" here!), but if you try it in genuinely cold conditions, please let us know how it works for you. Works w/ the Hondas Ski. Also, at hi alt and very cold, it helps to bring them into a 45 to 60 F area and yank the rope after a few minutes. |
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I fired it up again today. It started up on the 5th pull. I dropped the choke too soon and it stalled with no load. Then it started again in one pull, and I snapped the cord handle right off like it was made of cheap chinese plastic!
Right now it is outside running my 600 watt work light and humming right along. Its definitely a little louder than my Champion 2000w genny I made another thread about. It isn't bad though! The temperature outside is 24*. |
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Originally Posted By batmanacw:
I fired it up again today. It started up on the 5th pull. I dropped the choke too soon and it stalled with no load. Then it started again in one pull, and I snapped the cord handle right off like it was made of cheap chinese plastic! Right now it is outside running my 600 watt work light and humming right along. Its definitely a little louder than my Champion 2000w genny I made another thread about. It isn't bad though! The temperature outside is 24*. Did you do the spark plug swap? It helps a lot. this thing does not like to start in the cold, most use starting fluid...but I just the end of the propane torch in the intake on very low setting and it fires up on the first pull. I was watching a youtube video the other day where a guy modified a harbor freight look alike genny to start on a cordless drill. He just rigged it up to connect the spindle to the drill chuck, one pull of the trigger and you have a electric start gen. It would be cool to rig up a switch to remotely turn it on. |
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Originally Posted By Blackoperations:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:
I fired it up again today. It started up on the 5th pull. I dropped the choke too soon and it stalled with no load. Then it started again in one pull, and I snapped the cord handle right off like it was made of cheap chinese plastic! Right now it is outside running my 600 watt work light and humming right along. Its definitely a little louder than my Champion 2000w genny I made another thread about. It isn't bad though! The temperature outside is 24*. Did you do the spark plug swap? It helps a lot. this thing does not like to start in the cold, most use starting fluid...but I just the end of the propane torch in the intake on very low setting and it fires up on the first pull. I was watching a youtube video the other day where a guy modified a harbor freight look alike genny to start on a cordless drill. He just rigged it up to connect the spindle to the drill chuck, one pull of the trigger and you have a electric start gen. It would be cool to rig up a switch to remotely turn it on. I think I will just keep starting it on occasion. I was pretty impressed it started up so easily, but it had been started a couple days ago. I will replace the handle in a day or two. That is the easiest part to replace on the whole machine. |
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link to youtube video?
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Originally Posted By hanau:
link to youtube video? sorry cant find it, I think at the time I searched for two stoke generators and I found the link. The video talks about a guy buying the generator from someone for next to nothing, then cleaning the carb and applying the aforementioned starter mod. It was a real simple design, he just stuck a bolt in the spindle that was then attached to the drill. |
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Word to the wise.
Just went this morning to buy another of these or a bigger generator since we are under rolling blackouts. Decided to go with a 3.5K startup / 3KW running unit. It was in stock (but there were 2 other guys waiting behind me to buy generators). When she rang it up and I gave her the coupon she stated that coupons are no longer accepted for generators. Looking at the coupon (pulled out of the current Motor Trend magazine) it sure enough states that it can't be used for generators. Not sure if I would be able to get a generator somewhere else I made a decision on the spot to forget the HF unit and take a shot at Lowe's. I was able to get the last Champion unit with the same KW rating for $330 or so out the door w/ 10% Lowe's coupon. Champion generator: http://tinyurl.com/4t5lhbh Make sure you take a look at your coupon if buying a generator from HF in the future, or maybe you will get lucky and they won't be a diligent as my sales lady was this morning. |
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Tractor supply has had those champion gen on sale for $279 for a few months now. I have one and they are worth the price for sure. It's 3,500/4,000 start-up
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Was in my local one here last week and they were out. That was before this cold snap too.
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Originally Posted By SeanTX:
Word to the wise. Just went this morning to buy another of these or a bigger generator since we are under rolling blackouts. Decided to go with a 3.5K startup / 3KW running unit. It was in stock (but there were 2 other guys waiting behind me to buy generators). When she rang it up and I gave her the coupon she stated that coupons are no longer accepted for generators. Looking at the coupon (pulled out of the current Motor Trend magazine) it sure enough states that it can't be used for generators. Not sure if I would be able to get a generator somewhere else I made a decision on the spot to forget the HF unit and take a shot at Lowe's. I was able to get the last Champion unit with the same KW rating for $330 or so out the door w/ 10% Lowe's coupon. Champion generator: http://tinyurl.com/4t5lhbh Make sure you take a look at your coupon if buying a generator from HF in the future, or maybe you will get lucky and they won't be a diligent as my sales lady was this morning. must be a new 2011 policy. They probably red flagged the gen's that were sold for $64 bucks after they realized they undersold way too many. Glad I picked mine up when I did. This 800 watt generator is nice, and I have no problems with it....but I would not pay $150 bucks, might not even of picked it up for $99 "on sale". Kinda kills this thread, the title will have to be changed to" review of the overpriced harbor freight generator" thanks for the heads up. |
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Glad I bought one of these little guys. My daughter lost power and it saved the food in her fridge and freezer. Got it for $89 less 20%.......
Thinking about a second one, even if I have to pay $99. Avg between the two will only be $75 plus tax. Not too bad. |
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Originally Posted By criley:
Glad I bought one of these little guys. My daughter lost power and it saved the food in her fridge and freezer. Got it for $89 less 20%....... Thinking about a second one, even if I have to pay $99. Avg between the two will only be $75 plus tax. Not too bad. lost power last night because of the freaky storm that hit, took down the line. Power was back on by early hours, however I broke out the genny and ran tv, computers and occasionally the fridge & chest freezer (separately), I was too lazy to dig out the 5k gen from the shed, and I didn't want to get soaked trying to dig it out. Its a shame they raised the price....bought the second one for $64 bucks (plus tax)! |
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Originally Posted By Blackoperations:
lost power last night because of the freaky storm that hit, took down the line. Power was back on by early hours, however I broke out the genny and ran tv, computers and occasionally the fridge & chest freezer (separately), I was too lazy to dig out the 5k gen from the shed, and I didn't want to get soaked trying to dig it out. Its a shame they raised the price....bought the second one for $64 bucks (plus tax)! We still don't have power after yesterday's storm. They hope to have it restored by midnight. I fired up my 7k gen for my house and used the little one for her fridge. I guess I might wait until the sidewalk sale this year and see if they go down to $79.99 again. Of course, if the dollar continues its slide.... $99 may be the best price we'll see. |
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Without searching through 14+ pages of thread, can someone recount for me what is the correct sparkplug (brand/#)to replace the original one with on this little generator? Thanks. Mine has always taken several attempts to get it started, but runs fine once it gets going. |
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Originally Posted By Canoer:
correct sparkplug (brand/#)to replace the original one? Champion N11YC NGK BPR5ES Bosch WR9DC (0.028 - 0.031" gap) |
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Originally Posted By Skibane: My local Napa had the champion plug. Tried tractor supply and Walmart without luck, so hit an auto parts store first. Originally Posted By Canoer: correct sparkplug (brand/#)to replace the original one? Champion N11YC NGK BPR5ES Bosch WR9DC (0.028 - 0.031" gap) |
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By Canoer:
correct sparkplug (brand/#)to replace the original one? Champion N11YC NGK BPR5ES Bosch WR9DC (0.028 - 0.031" gap) Which one is the best if it doesn't start a fight? |
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Originally Posted By DUX4LIFE:
Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By Canoer:
correct sparkplug (brand/#)to replace the original one? Champion N11YC NGK BPR5ES Bosch WR9DC (0.028 - 0.031" gap) Which one is the best if it doesn't start a fight? I don't know which one is best...but the Champion worked well in my harbor freight generator. |
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Just received a Harbor Freight mailer.
Sale price is now $129.99. Weak dollar has to have some effect. Sale price in the latest NRA magazine is $99.99, though. That just may be the lowest price we will see these days, unless the dollar strengthens. And who sees that happening any time soon? |
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$89.99 in today's Harbor flyer via coupon!
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Originally Posted By kdx300:
$89.99 in today's Harbor flyer via coupon! Where are you located? |
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CNY, flyer was in our Sunday paper.
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Have a question for you genny experts......
I mentioned that this little gen powered my daughter's fridge...... How did it do it? Running wattage required must be about 700 watts, so how did it supply enough power to get the compressor running? From what I read it would take two to three times running watts to start the compressor. It did bog down, and would quit if it wasn't really warmed up, but it did run the fridge. Bad info there? Must not have taken that much starting power ??? .... |
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I couldn't find the sticker on her fridge to give me wattage, so I called GE with her model number.
They told me it is rated at 15 amps @ 120 volts..... that is 1800 watts. Something can't be right...... |
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Originally Posted By criley:
I couldn't find the sticker on her fridge to give me wattage, so I called GE with her model number. They told me it is rated at 15 amps @ 120 volts..... that is 1800 watts. Something can't be right...... The plate is there, just got to find it! what size fridge?....how many cubic feet? How old? No way you are at 15amps, maybe you were misinformed or they gave you the max LRA, or locked rotor amps. It has been my experience that this gen will stall (turn off or smoke like crazy) at 1200-1300 watts; It will bog down bad around 1000 watts. The most likely scenario is that the gen was able to start the compressor, although at low voltage and once started the running watt's were within the 800 watt capacity. While this is fine for the short term, long term can cause damage to the compressor. Check the voltage when you plug in the fridge and see if it dips below 110 volts. If its way below like around 90volts, it is causing harm. Check with volt meter, then report back. Another suggestion: use a short, heavy gauge extension cord (10 or 12 gauge) to minimize voltage drop. |
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Originally Posted By criley:
I mentioned that this little gen powered my daughter's fridge...... How did it do it? Running wattage required must be about 700 watts If you measured the power consumption, you might be surprised at how small it actually is. It's not unusual for modern full-sized fridges to only consume 150 watts or so, after the compressor gets started. However, the nameplate rating on the fridge will usually be MUCH higher, because there are also other loads that run occasionally (defrost heat strips, several incandescent light bulbs, etc.). Also, the manufacturer tends to state the absolute worst-case power consumption, which may include a safety margin. |
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I was able to successfully run a 5,000 BTU air conditioner off the 800 watt genny...over an hour so far!
It was Frigidaire 5000 BTU Window Room Air Conditioner Model #: LRA050XT7, purchased from Lowes. LINK Now don’t get me wrong, it takes a decent extension cord ( used 10 gauge at 20 feet) and some “steps”. Step 1: let the generator warm up completely minimum five minutes. Step 2: Put the window unit on low cold, with the cold setting at one. SLOWLY turn the knob until you hear the compressor start to kick on. Then leave it alone for 15 secs, to confirm that it is on. Step 3: Turn to max cold, with max cool setting on which is seven on this model. What you don’t want to have happen is the compressor to kick off (and then back on at full setting), or it will trip the breaker on the generator and you will have to repeat the steps. Step 4: Grab a beer and sit back! Here are some pics of the killawatt, used to ensure proper voltage, hertz, watts and amps. It was not fast enough to capture the startup watts. Although the MFR has a running 4.5 amp rating. Please keep in mind that the genny I used is fully broken in with a couple hundred hours on it (and a NGK plug).... don't try this with your brand new one that has not been properly broken in. |
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Originally Posted By Blackoperations: Awesome. This gives me some small hope that, one day, I might be able to use this genny to A/C my shed out in the woods if I ever get the lawnmower and other junk out of it. I was able to successfully run a 5,000 BTU air conditioner off the 800 watt genny...over an hour so far! <snip> It's my best hope for a mancave. |
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