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Link Posted: 11/10/2014 10:56:59 PM EDT
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So you're saying Lewis has a chance.
Link Posted: 11/11/2014 12:24:49 AM EDT
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Mercedes-AMG Petronas chairman and F1 champ Niki Lauda told Global Motorsport Media that, "If V-8 comes back, Mercedes will be gone.” Lauda was referencing the ever-clearer possibility that F1 rules may write off the complex 1.6-liter turbo V-6 engines and electric motors that the FIA mandated for the 2014 season. F1 CEO Bernie Ecclestone said last week that "we need to change the regulations” and would "try to get rid of these (V-6) engines.”




 



Sorry I don't see that happening.  Mercedes is making too much money from F1.
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Mercedes-AMG Petronas chairman and F1 champ Niki Lauda told Global Motorsport Media that, "If V-8 comes back, Mercedes will be gone.” Lauda was referencing the ever-clearer possibility that F1 rules may write off the complex 1.6-liter turbo V-6 engines and electric motors that the FIA mandated for the 2014 season. F1 CEO Bernie Ecclestone said last week that "we need to change the regulations” and would "try to get rid of these (V-6) engines.”




 


Never going to happen.

The turbo hybrid is attracting manufacturers.

Here is my conspiracy theory about what is going on and how it will play out over the next few years.

The Haas partnership with Ferrari set the ball rolling. On the surface, it completely changes the barriers to entry if a new team is able to pair up with a big team and act as a junior with both technical and material support. This in itself puts the smaller, established, independent  teams at a disadvantage. But what is really going on is a complete change in the structure of how engine manufacturers (the big money) compete against each other. From 2016 on, it will be factory and a junior paired up sharing engines and data to a degree we have never seen. Haas and Ferrari were the first to tip their hands. Honda is going solo in 2015 for the same reason.

Ferrari - Haas
Red Bull (Audi) - Torro Rosso (Lamborghini branded Audi)
Mercedes - Williams
McLaren (Honda) - (?)....probably Force India (as they have gone quiet recently concerning the issues and have a history of collaboration with McLaren)

Which leaves out Sauber and Lotus, who have also been making the most noise to change the payout structure (their only hope of surviving as truly independent teams)

(Should also add that Renault will be done after 2015. The game changed and they won't be willing to make the leap.)

The stage is set for a no holds barred throw-down in 2016. Mercedes blocks the engine freeze until a partial is accepted in July 2015. Post 2015, they get overruled by all of the other engine suppliers and the gloves come off for an engine war. (This was mentioned by Horner last weekend)

16 cars fulfills all of the contractual obligations, but I'm betting the "junior" teams will probably get 3 cars if the independents fall out.

Crazy nonsense? Maybe....but I bet I am close.




Link Posted: 11/11/2014 2:01:00 AM EDT
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And it's beautiful.

Martini and Gulf liveries. Nothing better.
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The car looks kinda plain.  Williams not getting sponsorships?



Their primary sponsor is Martini Rossi, and that's the historical Martini livery.


And it's beautiful.

Martini and Gulf liveries. Nothing better.



Gulf only looks good on Porsches and GT-40's.


ETA:  Though not Formula 1, there is something simplistic and beautiful about the looks of the Penske Sunoco Camaro that Mark Donohue drove in Trans Am
Link Posted: 11/11/2014 7:55:25 PM EDT
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Alonso and Mclaren are official it appears.
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I have an Autosport pay-walled link. Has anyone see a credible story elsewhere?
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Alonso and Mclaren are official it appears.

  I have an Autosport pay-walled link. Has anyone see a credible story elsewhere?



Got the Autosport e-mail, seeing nothing else anywhere.
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Got the Autosport e-mail, seeing nothing else anywhere.


Got it as well.

It's pretty much the same story that has been going around the last few days.

Nothing popping off on Twitter.
Link Posted: 11/11/2014 10:35:32 PM EDT
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So, what do you think of Alonso at McLaren with a Honda Powerplant?  






I haven't been impressed with McLaren this year at all.  They are running a Merc powerplant and haven't done squat with it.  Could be the drivers?  I doubt it, though I doubt either of their drivers get the best out of their cars, regardless of Button's championship, which I still can't square with the rest of his unimpressive career.  They're servicable drivers, but not the best, which might count for a couple few finishing positions on average.







I hope Fernando knows something the rest of us don't, because if there's a driver who deserves a good car, he's it.

 
Link Posted: 11/12/2014 10:15:48 AM EDT
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Grosjen will remain with Lotus.

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I haven't been impressed with McLaren this year at all.  They are running a Merc powerplant and haven't done squat with it.  Could be the drivers?  I doubt it, though I doubt either of their drivers get the best out of their cars, regardless of Button's championship, which I still can't square with the rest of his unimpressive career.  They're servicable drivers, but not the best, which might count for a couple few finishing positions on average.




I hope Fernando knows something the rest of us don't, because if there's a driver who deserves a good car, he's it.
 


The whole Merc engine thing is a moot point... Only one car was designed around that engine.  I would venture to guess, also that some of that half a billion dollars spent on engine development was put into developing the rest of the works car also.  The only reason that Williams are doing as well as they are is that they have a really good low downforce aero package on the car.. but it still isn't enough to beat Red Bull whom have an inferior engine, since it took Williams most of the season to get there.  



Mclaren has the same chance next year that any of the non silver arrows teams do, it's really going to depend on how much money Honda is willing to put into things.



I have a sinking feeling it's going to be the same as this year though, and the gloves will come off in 2016 with an all out engine war, if all the teams agree to end the technology freeze (and they will, just to spite Merc and their underhanded tactics).  It'll make racing better, but it's not going to do budgets any good.



 
Link Posted: 11/12/2014 12:07:42 PM EDT
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Sorry I don't see that happening.  Mercedes is making too much money from F1.
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Sorry I don't see that happening.  Mercedes is making too much money from F1.


I don't see Merc actually leaving, but I can certainly understand them being pissed.  The spent the money, did the work, and figured out how to beat the fuck out of Renault and Ferrari with this powerplant formula, and instead of trying to catch up, the other companies are trying to change the formula and make everyone start from scratch.  Kind of a commie-liberal tactic if you ask me.
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 12:30:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2014 12:59:04 PM EDT
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Bernie Saying Stupid Things Again

Formula 1 should not be chasing a younger generation of fans as they are the wrong target for the sport's sponsors, claims F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone.

After a year when F1 has been asking itself why television audiences are in decline, Ecclestone has suggested that a push to embrace a younger fanbase via social media would be wasted.
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"I'd rather get to the 70-year-old guy who's got plenty of cash. So, there's no point trying to reach these kids because they won't buy any of the products here and if marketers are aiming at this audience, then maybe they should advertise with Disney."
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Link Posted: 11/14/2014 12:59:19 PM EDT
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So, what do you think of Alonso at McLaren with a Honda Powerplant?  

I haven't been impressed with McLaren this year at all.  They are running a Merc powerplant and haven't done squat with it.  Could be the drivers?  I doubt it, though I doubt either of their drivers get the best out of their cars, regardless of Button's championship, which I still can't square with the rest of his unimpressive career.  They're servicable drivers, but not the best, which might count for a couple few finishing positions on average.

I hope Fernando knows something the rest of us don't, because if there's a driver who deserves a good car, he's it.
 
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I don't want to discount the magic of the McLaren / Honda partnership, but lets be real - during the 'golden years' they had Senna and Prost and the competing power plants where Zakspeed, Judd, Cosworth DF* series and Ferrari.  

As well,  if Carlos Sainz Jr. is signed as the McLaren 2nd driver Alonso may find his driver market value rudely deflated for the 2016 season.
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 1:02:32 PM EDT
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Wow... the old man is really just trying to kill F1 isn't he....

Going full Bernie... you never go full Bernie
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 1:53:18 PM EDT
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WOW... just WOW. While I understand his point that older people have the big money to spend RIGHT NOW... I am amazed that the old coot doesn't care about the future of the sport. When he and all us old fogies die off... then what? Evidently, he doesn't give a damn.
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 2:07:39 PM EDT
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he doesn't care...he's made his billions

I suspect these recent mutterings will be sparking some 'its time' conversations among those with vested interest.
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Agreed.

If I was a major sponsor (like the Rolex brand that he drug into the mud with him).... I would be making a phone call to him regarding my displeasure at his dismissive attitude towards the future.
Link Posted: 11/14/2014 3:32:12 PM EDT
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I will take him out for an Oyster Perpetual....
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The Caterham F1 Team is has announced it will be racing at the final Formula 1 Grand Prix of the season in Abu Dhabi next week thanks to the support of the fans, who have helped the team raise enough money to make it possible through Crowdcube.

While the team's crowfunding campaign has not yet gathered the targeted amount, the team has apparently secured enough funding to compete the final Grand Prix of the 2014 Formula One season.


It's going to be bullshit if they secure more points than Marussia.
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It's going to be bullshit if they secure more points than Marussia.
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The Caterham F1 Team is has announced it will be racing at the final Formula 1 Grand Prix of the season in Abu Dhabi next week thanks to the support of the fans, who have helped the team raise enough money to make it possible through Crowdcube.

While the team's crowfunding campaign has not yet gathered the targeted amount, the team has apparently secured enough funding to compete the final Grand Prix of the 2014 Formula One season.


It's going to be bullshit if they secure more points than Marussia.


They released just about everyone yesterday and are only bringing 40 to the track.

By showing up and "running", they should be able to get the payout as (IIRC) Marussia defaults by not showing.

They are going under the premise that someone might bite and buy the team. More than likely, it was a business decision to get the payout and pay off some debt.

If they use 2 new drivers (which is probably where some of the money is coming from), it puts them over the 4 driver limit per season. There is a provision in the rules that does allow 4+ drivers, but they will have to argue/prove force majeure.
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If I was a major sponsor (like the Rolex brand that he drug into the mud with him).... I would be making a phone call to him regarding my displeasure at his dismissive attitude towards the future.

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Agreed.



If I was a major sponsor (like the Rolex brand that he drug into the mud with him).... I would be making a phone call to him regarding my displeasure at his dismissive attitude towards the future.





Rolex probably isn't thrilled with his general comments - but is unlikely to specifically object to the comments about youth.



Rolex advertises and promotes events for F1, yachting, vintage racing, air racing and other sports, interests and causes of the monied.  Rolex isn't targeting the youth market for obvious reasons.



 
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They released just about everyone yesterday and are only bringing 40 to the track.

By showing up and "running", they should be able to get the payout as (IIRC) Marussia defaults by not showing.

They are going under the premise that someone might bite and buy the team. More than likely, it was a business decision to get the payout and pay off some debt.

If they use 2 new drivers (which is probably where some of the money is coming from), it puts them over the 4 driver limit per season. There is a provision in the rules that does allow 4+ drivers, but they will have to argue/prove force majeure.
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The Caterham F1 Team is has announced it will be racing at the final Formula 1 Grand Prix of the season in Abu Dhabi next week thanks to the support of the fans, who have helped the team raise enough money to make it possible through Crowdcube.

While the team's crowfunding campaign has not yet gathered the targeted amount, the team has apparently secured enough funding to compete the final Grand Prix of the 2014 Formula One season.


It's going to be bullshit if they secure more points than Marussia.


They released just about everyone yesterday and are only bringing 40 to the track.

By showing up and "running", they should be able to get the payout as (IIRC) Marussia defaults by not showing.

They are going under the premise that someone might bite and buy the team. More than likely, it was a business decision to get the payout and pay off some debt.

If they use 2 new drivers (which is probably where some of the money is coming from), it puts them over the 4 driver limit per season. There is a provision in the rules that does allow 4+ drivers, but they will have to argue/prove force majeure.


Caterham have announced Kobayashi will be driving one of their cars.

Rumor is Lotterer turned down driving with them.

Video of Honda McLaren testing.
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Rolex probably isn't thrilled with his general comments - but is unlikely to specifically object to the comments about youth.

Rolex advertises and promotes events for F1, yachting, vintage racing, air racing and other sports, interests and causes of the monied.  Rolex isn't targeting the youth market for obvious reasons.
 
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Agreed... but as a business, I'd be quite irritated at his dismissive attitude towards prospective future customers.

Then again... I don't run in exclusive clubs, so I think more like a regular person and less like a dynastic business who caters to many of dynastic wealth.

Btw... I've been a fan of the Rolex brand for many years. But despite my good tastes, no doubt many of the monied elite who patronize the brand wouldn't find me fit to cater their dog's birthday party party.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 3:31:58 PM EDT
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Well, the have-nots are starting to feel their oats a bit....

this could get interesting...

IMHO, good for them.  I'm about as anti-socialist as you can get, as far as governing a society goes.  But if you're trying to create a competitive arena that people are going to pay money to watch, a little Bolshevism is required.  
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this could get interesting...

IMHO, good for them.  I'm about as anti-socialist as you can get, as far as governing a society goes.  But if you're trying to create a competitive arena that people are going to pay money to watch, a little Bolshevism is required.  
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What I don't understand is why the bigger teams don't realize that the smaller teams help F1 as a whole.  If there were only the big 4 teams with 2 or even 3 cars each, the sport would be BORING. Formula 1 needs Lotus, Sauber, and Force India for both the spectacle and to help push the sport forward.
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What I don't understand is why the bigger teams don't realize that the smaller teams help F1 as a whole.  If there were only the big 4 teams with 2 or even 3 cars each, the sport would be BORING. Formula 1 needs Lotus, Sauber, and Force India for both the spectacle and to help push the sport forward.
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IMHO, good for them.  I'm about as anti-socialist as you can get, as far as governing a society goes.  But if you're trying to create a competitive arena that people are going to pay money to watch, a little Bolshevism is required.  






What I don't understand is why the bigger teams don't realize that the smaller teams help F1 as a whole.  If there were only the big 4 teams with 2 or even 3 cars each, the sport would be BORING. Formula 1 needs Lotus, Sauber, and Force India for both the spectacle and to help push the sport forward.
Delta, its not socialism when a company treats its employees like they are important to the success of the company.





Plumber, they arent looking out for the sport.





 
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IMHO, good for them.  I'm about as anti-socialist as you can get, as far as governing a society goes.  But if you're trying to create a competitive arena that people are going to pay money to watch, a little Bolshevism is required.  


What I don't understand is why the bigger teams don't realize that the smaller teams help F1 as a whole.  If there were only the big 4 teams with 2 or even 3 cars each, the sport would be BORING. Formula 1 needs Lotus, Sauber, and Force India for both the spectacle and to help push the sport forward.
Delta, its not socialism when a company treats its employees like they are important to the success of the company.

Plumber, they arent looking out for the sport.
 


I get that. It's like they're chopping down the apple tree to get all of the apples today rather than harvesting what they can reach year after year after year.
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IMHO, good for them.  I'm about as anti-socialist as you can get, as far as governing a society goes.  But if you're trying to create a competitive arena that people are going to pay money to watch, a little Bolshevism is required.  




What I don't understand is why the bigger teams don't realize that the smaller teams help F1 as a whole.  If there were only the big 4 teams with 2 or even 3 cars each, the sport would be BORING. Formula 1 needs Lotus, Sauber, and Force India for both the spectacle and to help push the sport forward.
Delta, its not socialism when a company treats its employees like they are important to the success of the company.



Plumber, they arent looking out for the sport.

 




I get that. It's like they're chopping down the apple tree to get all of the apples today rather than harvesting what they can reach year after year after year.
Very good analogy.  

 



It seems like someone in charge has just lost touch... we had the testing ban in 2008, the shit tires, DRS, and KERS in 2011, the V6s of this year.




The people that watch Formula 1 year after year want only a few things... loud ass cars, high RPMs, and balls out racing.  Watching 18 cars pussyfoot around on fragile tires at 10 RPM that sound more like the Hoover in my closet than the car in my driveway is depressing.  




It's sad seeing the series I've always enjoyed dying.  
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the sport aspect of the issue is long since buried - the 'crisis' is entirely financially motivated and centered on the F1 IPO CVC hopes to float next year.  If you think F1 sucks now, wait until its being managed entirely for P/E ratio.

I'm capitalist through and through, but this is clearly a case of profit motive eclipsing all other reason.

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Very good analogy.    

It seems like someone in charge has just lost touch... we had the testing ban in 2008, the shit tires, DRS, and KERS in 2011, the V6s of this year.

The people that watch Formula 1 year after year want only a few things... loud ass cars, high RPMs, and balls out racing.  Watching 18 cars pussyfoot around on fragile tires at 10 RPM that sound more like the Hoover in my closet than the car in my driveway is depressing.  

It's sad seeing the series I've always enjoyed dying.  
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Well, the have-nots are starting to feel their oats a bit....

this could get interesting...

IMHO, good for them.  I'm about as anti-socialist as you can get, as far as governing a society goes.  But if you're trying to create a competitive arena that people are going to pay money to watch, a little Bolshevism is required.  


What I don't understand is why the bigger teams don't realize that the smaller teams help F1 as a whole.  If there were only the big 4 teams with 2 or even 3 cars each, the sport would be BORING. Formula 1 needs Lotus, Sauber, and Force India for both the spectacle and to help push the sport forward.
Delta, its not socialism when a company treats its employees like they are important to the success of the company.

Plumber, they arent looking out for the sport.
 


I get that. It's like they're chopping down the apple tree to get all of the apples today rather than harvesting what they can reach year after year after year.
Very good analogy.    

It seems like someone in charge has just lost touch... we had the testing ban in 2008, the shit tires, DRS, and KERS in 2011, the V6s of this year.

The people that watch Formula 1 year after year want only a few things... loud ass cars, high RPMs, and balls out racing.  Watching 18 cars pussyfoot around on fragile tires at 10 RPM that sound more like the Hoover in my closet than the car in my driveway is depressing.  

It's sad seeing the series I've always enjoyed dying.  


I would gladly have that hoover installed in my engine bay.
Link Posted: 11/19/2014 12:42:18 PM EDT
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A bit of good news.  Jules is apparently doing a little better, and is a lot closer to home now.

http://www.grandprix247.com/2014/11/19/bianchi-family-jules-is-no-longer-in-artificial-coma/
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A bit of good news.  Jules is apparently doing a little better, and is a lot closer to home now.

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A step in the right direction.
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I get that. It's like they're chopping down the apple tree to get all of the apples today rather than harvesting what they can reach year after year after year.
Very good analogy.    





It seems like someone in charge has just lost touch... we had the testing ban in 2008, the shit tires, DRS, and KERS in 2011, the V6s of this year.





The people that watch Formula 1 year after year want only a few things... loud ass cars, high RPMs, and balls out racing.  Watching 18 cars pussyfoot around on fragile tires at 10 RPM that sound more like the Hoover in my closet than the car in my driveway is depressing.  





It's sad seeing the series I've always enjoyed dying.  








I would gladly have that hoover installed in my engine bay.









So would most of us, but that's not the point of my argument.





The whole idea of this smaller engine was to make F1 greener... yet all it has done is raise the cost of doing business to the point that small teams are going out of business, large teams are spending more than they ever have, and what did the fans get for it? A shittier sounding engine, and a silver car at the front all season instead of a purple one.






It's the same as 2005, they came up with a set of outlandish rules to knock the dominant team off, and all they did was create another dominant team.  

 
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Just saw this pic for the first time:

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Just saw this pic for the first time:
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Not the first time it has happened. The video below has yet to be topped for impressive suspension failures.. happened in FP3, China 2010







It looks like the tires were trying to run away, at 180MPH.  






























 
Link Posted: 11/20/2014 1:32:14 AM EDT
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I get that. It's like they're chopping down the apple tree to get all of the apples today rather than harvesting what they can reach year after year after year.
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Well, the have-nots are starting to feel their oats a bit....



this could get interesting...



IMHO, good for them.  I'm about as anti-socialist as you can get, as far as governing a society goes.  But if you're trying to create a competitive arena that people are going to pay money to watch, a little Bolshevism is required.  




What I don't understand is why the bigger teams don't realize that the smaller teams help F1 as a whole.  If there were only the big 4 teams with 2 or even 3 cars each, the sport would be BORING. Formula 1 needs Lotus, Sauber, and Force India for both the spectacle and to help push the sport forward.
Delta, its not socialism when a company treats its employees like they are important to the success of the company.



Plumber, they arent looking out for the sport.

 




I get that. It's like they're chopping down the apple tree to get all of the apples today rather than harvesting what they can reach year after year after year.
this is why i should be dictator of F1.



each team would receive, for example, 5% F1 revenue.  everyone gets the same 'base' pay.  



the championship points and pay out system would not change.



the spending cap would be base of 5% F1 revenue + previous years winnings + 5-10% of overall F1 revenue.  essentially.. the max would be 250-300 million for a manufactures title unless revenues rise.  this gives F1, in its entirety, motivation to make more money by drawing in more fans, selling more tickets, merch, and tv time.



failure to stay at or under the cap would mean a penalty of varying degrees depending on how far over you went.



small teams would be able to buy aero kits (like in Indycar now) from companies that do not build whole cars.  iow: no redbull aero kits or merc aero kits.  you can however have honda and renault aero kits, even dallara or whomever decides to get in on the act. (maybe chevy would try its hand..lol).  regulations would be put in place to control this as no one wants a sand bagger.



besides that... rules reformed to reflect the financial limitations.  they would be made much more open.  teams would be able to choose engines, suspensions, etc, at their leisure.



 
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The ideas that are put out, tying how teams are paid in F1 to socialism and capitalism are humorous. How a private entity distributes its own money voluntary shouldn't be associated with socialism.

If you want socialism in F1, Add 10kg to the winning car after every race, 9kg for P2, 8kg for P3, etc. After a couple seasons, all the cars will be much heavier and slower, but more "equal."
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Ferrari officially announce Fernando is leaving. So much for A Vettel/Raikkonen/Alonso 3-car super team.

Amazing questions during drivers' conference. Non-youtube.
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"Can you repeat the question?"

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Link Posted: 11/21/2014 12:00:07 AM EDT
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I think I can hear Shung crying all the way over in Switzerland.  







It's nice to see Seb in good spirits too, that press-conference video has been getting a lot of play.  




Now I have to order a Ferrari hat for next year.



 
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FP1 at 4am.
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