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Posted: 9/19/2014 3:44:21 PM EDT
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The FIA has postponed a ban on messages relating to the adjustment of power unit settings, the car’s state of charge, clutch maps, brake-by-wire settings, differential settings, start modes, fuel saving and other technical parameters will remain legal. Such messages were frequently used by teams in previous races. The forbidden messages include those relating to: Driving lines on the circuit Contact with kerbs Car set up parameters for specific corners Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver Speeds in corners compared to another driver Gear selection compared with another driver Gear selection in general Braking points Rate of braking compared to another driver Rate of braking or application of brakes in general Car stability under braking Throttle application compared to another driver Throttle application in general Use of DRS compared with another driver Use of any overtake button Driving technique in general The FIA now intends to introduce a ban on messages relating relating to car performance from next season. If the FIA is going to ban general performance messages, they need to remove the limit on the number of drive line unit changes. You're going to see that either the teams are going to retard the power units so far to protect them that they won't be competitive, or you're going to see teams blow through their five engines by Monza, and get hit with grid penalties. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 3:49:27 PM EDT
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The FIA has postponed a ban on messages relating to the adjustment of power unit settings, the car’s state of charge, clutch maps, brake-by-wire settings, differential settings, start modes, fuel saving and other technical parameters will remain legal. Such messages were frequently used by teams in previous races. The forbidden messages include those relating to: Driving lines on the circuit Contact with kerbs Car set up parameters for specific corners Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver Speeds in corners compared to another driver Gear selection compared with another driver Gear selection in general Braking points Rate of braking compared to another driver Rate of braking or application of brakes in general Car stability under braking Throttle application compared to another driver Throttle application in general Use of DRS compared with another driver Use of any overtake button Driving technique in general The FIA now intends to introduce a ban on messages relating relating to car performance from next season. So, no mention of instructing your #2 driver to intentionally crash? |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 6:39:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the FIA is going to ban general performance messages, they need to remove the limit on the number of drive line unit changes. You're going to see that either the teams are going to retard the power units so far to protect them that they won't be competitive, or you're going to see teams blow through their five engines by Monza, and get hit with grid penalties. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The FIA has postponed a ban on messages relating to the adjustment of power unit settings, the car’s state of charge, clutch maps, brake-by-wire settings, differential settings, start modes, fuel saving and other technical parameters will remain legal. Such messages were frequently used by teams in previous races. The forbidden messages include those relating to: Driving lines on the circuit Contact with kerbs Car set up parameters for specific corners Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver Speeds in corners compared to another driver Gear selection compared with another driver Gear selection in general Braking points Rate of braking compared to another driver Rate of braking or application of brakes in general Car stability under braking Throttle application compared to another driver Throttle application in general Use of DRS compared with another driver Use of any overtake button Driving technique in general The FIA now intends to introduce a ban on messages relating relating to car performance from next season. If the FIA is going to ban general performance messages, they need to remove the limit on the number of drive line unit changes. You're going to see that either the teams are going to retard the power units so far to protect them that they won't be competitive, or you're going to see teams blow through their five engines by Monza, and get hit with grid penalties. This. The limit on the number of drive train units is total bullshit. The idea that is is about cost savings is even more ludicrous. When Renault started all the whining about green engines the rest of engine suppliers should have told them to just throw a Le Car engine into their chassis and see where that got them. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 6:46:36 PM EDT
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This. The limit on the number of drive train units is total bullshit. The idea that is is about cost savings is even more ludicrous. When Renault started all the whining about green engines the rest of engine suppliers should have told them to just throw a Le Car engine into their chassis and see where that got them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The FIA has postponed a ban on messages relating to the adjustment of power unit settings, the car’s state of charge, clutch maps, brake-by-wire settings, differential settings, start modes, fuel saving and other technical parameters will remain legal. Such messages were frequently used by teams in previous races. The forbidden messages include those relating to: Driving lines on the circuit Contact with kerbs Car set up parameters for specific corners Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver Speeds in corners compared to another driver Gear selection compared with another driver Gear selection in general Braking points Rate of braking compared to another driver Rate of braking or application of brakes in general Car stability under braking Throttle application compared to another driver Throttle application in general Use of DRS compared with another driver Use of any overtake button Driving technique in general The FIA now intends to introduce a ban on messages relating relating to car performance from next season. If the FIA is going to ban general performance messages, they need to remove the limit on the number of drive line unit changes. You're going to see that either the teams are going to retard the power units so far to protect them that they won't be competitive, or you're going to see teams blow through their five engines by Monza, and get hit with grid penalties. This. The limit on the number of drive train units is total bullshit. The idea that is is about cost savings is even more ludicrous. When Renault started all the whining about green engines the rest of engine suppliers should have told them to just throw a Le Car engine into their chassis and see where that got them. Claire Williams mentioned earlier today that Williams pays 20 million pounds (32.5 million dollars) for one years worth of Mercedes power units. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 11:35:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Claire Williams mentioned earlier today that Williams pays 20 million pounds (32.5 million dollars) for one years worth of Mercedes power units. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The FIA has postponed a ban on messages relating to the adjustment of power unit settings, the car’s state of charge, clutch maps, brake-by-wire settings, differential settings, start modes, fuel saving and other technical parameters will remain legal. Such messages were frequently used by teams in previous races. The forbidden messages include those relating to: Driving lines on the circuit Contact with kerbs Car set up parameters for specific corners Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver Speeds in corners compared to another driver Gear selection compared with another driver Gear selection in general Braking points Rate of braking compared to another driver Rate of braking or application of brakes in general Car stability under braking Throttle application compared to another driver Throttle application in general Use of DRS compared with another driver Use of any overtake button Driving technique in general The FIA now intends to introduce a ban on messages relating relating to car performance from next season. If the FIA is going to ban general performance messages, they need to remove the limit on the number of drive line unit changes. You're going to see that either the teams are going to retard the power units so far to protect them that they won't be competitive, or you're going to see teams blow through their five engines by Monza, and get hit with grid penalties. This. The limit on the number of drive train units is total bullshit. The idea that is is about cost savings is even more ludicrous. When Renault started all the whining about green engines the rest of engine suppliers should have told them to just throw a Le Car engine into their chassis and see where that got them. Claire Williams mentioned earlier today that Williams pays 20 million pounds (32.5 million dollars) for one years worth of Mercedes power units. Yeah because when your budget for a year of racing is 200 million not spending another 10 or 12 million for a couple of more engines is such a huge savings. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 11:54:47 PM EDT
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Yeah because when your budget for a year of racing is 200 million not spending another 10 or 12 million for a couple of more engines is such a huge savings. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Claire Williams mentioned earlier today that Williams pays 20 million pounds (32.5 million dollars) for one years worth of Mercedes power units. Yeah because when your budget for a year of racing is 200 million not spending another 10 or 12 million for a couple of more engines is such a huge savings. I'm not arguing about the limitations vs the budget, I actually agree that it is a silly notion. I had never really heard an exact amount that customer teams pay for a season and was a bit surprised by the amount (although I'm sure it covers everything including support,etc.) Her comment was part of a response dealing with the question of unlocking the engine freeze for all of next season and the unanimous response from customer teams that they are not willing to pay more if it comes about. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 8:14:59 AM EDT
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get those fantasy picks in before 8:55am!
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Posted: 9/20/2014 8:28:53 AM EDT
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If the FIA is going to ban general performance messages, they need to remove the limit on the number of drive line unit changes. You're going to see that either the teams are going to retard the power units so far to protect them that they won't be competitive, or you're going to see teams blow through their five engines by Monza, and get hit with grid penalties. They should also lift or at least ease back on the test ban. Arguably the most complicated power trains ever put into an automobile and the only time they're driven is at race weekends. I can understand why the drivers need the coaching, it isn't like the Schumi Era where teams ran tens of thousands of kms testing every season. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 9:04:30 AM EDT
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Nico's wife is cute.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 9:18:38 AM EDT
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Ferrari looks strong today.
What a shame they have such a lame PU. Alonso could grab a pole today |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:02:07 AM EDT
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Very disapointing q3 Fernando
Shit. 50/1000th from the 3rd place 
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:02:32 AM EDT
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Ricciardo best of rest while only running 12 laps. Impressive.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:09:03 AM EDT
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Very disapointing q3 Fernando
Shit. 50/1000th from the 3rd place I really thought it could happen today. Ferrari really sucks this year. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:14:39 AM EDT
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I really thought it could happen today. Ferrari really sucks this year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very disapointing q3 Fernando
Shit. 50/1000th from the 3rd place I really thought it could happen today. Ferrari really sucks this year. I honestly think that today Fernando screwed up his q3. He was fastest yesterday, this morning, and on q2 (with equal tires) He just didn't bring the extra tenth needed in q3... Others have. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 11:13:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Radioed By Rosberg: Damnit!  |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 11:27:49 AM EDT
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How long till the teams have an encrypted radio set up that the FIA cannot monitor? And built into the helmet so it can't be found. plus it won't be part of the car that has to go through technical inspection and teardown? |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 1:48:53 PM EDT
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.0007 of a second. Wow! I'd like to see how much that is, in distance. Probably just a few pixels in a photo finish. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 1:57:54 PM EDT
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[div style='text-align: left;'].0007 of a second. Wow! I'd like to see how much that is, in distance. Probably just a few pixels in a photo finish. 34 cm. Mercedes posted about it. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 2:01:48 PM EDT
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I honestly think that today Fernando screwed up his q3. He was fastest yesterday, this morning, and on q2 (with equal tires) He just didn't bring the extra tenth needed in q3... Others have. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very disapointing q3 Fernando
Shit. 50/1000th from the 3rd place I really thought it could happen today. Ferrari really sucks this year. I honestly think that today Fernando screwed up his q3. He was fastest yesterday, this morning, and on q2 (with equal tires) He just didn't bring the extra tenth needed in q3... Others have. Great qualifying analysis. Fernando Alonso
The really interesting one is Alonso. He could have been third on the grid if he and put together his three best sectors on the same lap. Everyone was balancing out the need to use supersoft tyres from Q1 onwards with the need to have a set for the final runs. But Alonso peaked on his first run in Q3, in the first two sectors at least. He lost 4/10ths in the final sector on that run and then did only one personal best on the decisive run at the end, in the final sector. Ricciardo's performance was actually the most impressive: Daniel Ricciardo
Ricciardo set the fastest middle sector of any driver, but lost out in Sector 1 compared to the Mercedes, as did his team mate Sebastian Vettel. This was enough to lose them the pole, because in the rest of the lap Ricciardo was faster than Hamilton. In contrast Sebastian Vettel was the only one of the top five to put his three best sectors together in one lap. He just wasn’t as fast as Ricciardo. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 4:45:05 PM EDT
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The really interesting one is Alonso. He could have been third on the grid if he and put together his three best sectors on the same lap.
Everyone was balancing out the need to use supersoft tyres from Q1 onwards with the need to have a set for the final runs. But Alonso peaked on his first run in Q3, in the first two sectors at least. He lost 4/10ths in the final sector on that run and then did only one personal best on the decisive run at the end, in the final sector. That sums up my feeling pretty nicely. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 5:17:32 PM EDT
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Excellent show, if you can watch it do so.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 8:12:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:55:37 AM EDT
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RACE TIME!
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:59:39 AM EDT
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On it,
Too bad it has rained a lot. Not much of an advantage of being on the right side apparently. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:00:36 AM EDT
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Rosberg out.
He didn't start He'll probably start from the pits |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:01:51 AM EDT
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Rosberg out. He didn't start He'll probably start from the pits Oh boy. Control Electronics systems failure. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:02:18 AM EDT
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Kobayashi out too
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:03:08 AM EDT
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Caterham behind the barrier on the PARADE LAP.
Poor Kobayashi. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:03:33 AM EDT
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The red bulls must totally assault Hamilton.
He has everything to lose now |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:04:10 AM EDT
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Here we go!!
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:04:13 AM EDT
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Ham lucked out
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:04:40 AM EDT
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Alonso went WIIIIIIIIIDE
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:04:47 AM EDT
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Woah there Ferrari
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:05:07 AM EDT
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LoL, red bull is going to be mad at alonso
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:06:09 AM EDT
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Hamilton's pouring it on
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:07:19 AM EDT
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Rosberg's running but only has gearshift lights but no clutch padle
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:07:53 AM EDT
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The Mercedes steering wheel looks so high tech and modern compared to everyone else's
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:08:44 AM EDT
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No sanction for Alonso.
I bet the fact Vettel overtook him again played a role. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:12:23 AM EDT
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Oh so Alonso smartly gave way to Vettel actually :)
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:12:44 AM EDT
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Vettel on the move....i hate street courses.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:21:57 AM EDT
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The Mercedes steering wheel looks so high tech and modern compared to everyone else's a good of example of where more isn't necessarily better.....electronic issues are killing them.....announcers just said it's missing complete gear when up shifting.... |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:26:23 AM EDT
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Alonso tires starring to be faster than Vettel
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:30:03 AM EDT
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Alonso tires starring to be faster than Vettel Yup. Gap was halfed. 2.5sec now |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:31:53 AM EDT
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That's that for Rosberg
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:34:08 AM EDT
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Gap increasing again
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Posted: 9/21/2014 8:35:16 AM EDT
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Rosberg. Check engine light. Fuel cap must be loose.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 9:00:56 AM EDT
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Other than mechanical issues this has been a pretty tame race.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 9:01:43 AM EDT
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That video clip of Hamilton says it all.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 9:02:30 AM EDT
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Other than mechanical issues this has been a pretty tame race. Only half way...still time for some excitement. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 9:03:36 AM EDT
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Only half way...still time for some excitement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Other than mechanical issues this has been a pretty tame race. Only half way...still time for some excitement. i am a prophet!! 
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