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Link Posted: 4/14/2014 12:36:12 PM EDT
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Shung is probably screaming from a mountaintop right now.
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5 years of prayers answered :)
Link Posted: 4/14/2014 12:40:00 PM EDT
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Shung, with this announcement... if RBR loses it's appeal today, I'm pretty sure you no longer have ownership of your soul.  
Link Posted: 4/14/2014 2:34:13 PM EDT
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Because you thought I still owned it ;) ?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 12:28:27 AM EDT
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With the way Luca di Montezemolo stormed out of the Ferrari garage before the race was even over, Stefano Domenicali probably quit before he had to face the boss at the team meeting!
Also, was just watching Top Gear and Jeremy Clarkson said in his description of The Stig; "he bought new condoms made by Pirelli and now has 17 children!"



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 12:46:13 AM EDT
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While it's a step in the right direction, it won't make them go any faster... and the guy coming in has no experience to speak of.  I just feel sorry for them this year, especially the drivers.

I wonder if the red phone at Ross Brawn's house is ringing.
 
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Shung is probably screaming from a mountaintop right now.

While it's a step in the right direction, it won't make them go any faster... and the guy coming in has no experience to speak of.  I just feel sorry for them this year, especially the drivers.

I wonder if the red phone at Ross Brawn's house is ringing.
 


It's not like it can get much worse for the Scudereria.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 6:02:36 AM EDT
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Don't know if this was already posted



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjE0LYaNMQ0#t=120
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 8:00:21 AM EDT
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That's pretty awesome.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 8:23:22 AM EDT
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Shung is probably screaming from a mountaintop right now.


While it's a step in the right direction, it won't make them go any faster... and the guy coming in has no experience to speak of.  I just feel sorry for them this year, especially the drivers.



I wonder if the red phone at Ross Brawn's house is ringing.

 




It's not like it can get much worse for the Scudereria.



OH yes it could.  At least they are not having reliability issues.



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 9:11:21 AM EDT
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RBR lost their appeal  



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 9:25:10 AM EDT
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RBR lost their appeal  



 


Who didn't see that coming. Looks like they based their appeal on hand wringing and emotion instead of the science that it should have been based on. Really, a rule set down in the regulations isn't regulatory?



The couple of articles I've had time to read this morning make it sound like RBR tried to say the fuel flow rule isn't really a rule and make no mention of them attacking the sensors themselves as being flawed. I guess if you know your real argument doesn't have a leg to stand you might as well try Franklin and Bash theatrics.



I wonder how many sensors RBR has bought since Australia looking for a low reading sensor, like the rest of the teams have done, according to rumor. Not really a cheat when two "identical" certified sensors give different readings for the same flow rate. I know which one I'd be putting on the engine!
 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 11:52:10 AM EDT
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Who didn't see that coming. Looks like they based their appeal on hand wringing and emotion instead of the science that it should have been based on. Really, a rule set down in the regulations isn't regulatory?

The couple of articles I've had time to read this morning make it sound like RBR tried to say the fuel flow rule isn't really a rule and make no mention of them attacking the sensors themselves as being flawed. I guess if you know your real argument doesn't have a leg to stand you might as well try Franklin and Bash theatrics.

I wonder how many sensors RBR has bought since Australia looking for a low reading sensor, like the rest of the teams have done, according to rumor. Not really a cheat when two "identical" certified sensors give different readings for the same flow rate. I know which one I'd be putting on the engine!


 
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Thought the same thing the moment they appealed. Just a waste of time. Need to stop playing games/posturing and get down to fixing what needs to be fixed.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 11:58:50 AM EDT
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RBR thinks they're bigger than the sport. I'm glad they got denied.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 12:34:06 PM EDT
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EVERY team thinks they're bigger than the sport at some point and makes all kinds of attempts to change rules to favor themselves, circumvent rules, outright CHEAT, etc. It's always been that way and it always will. Happens every single year with nearly every team. This is not news.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 12:57:15 PM EDT
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Only ONE team is really bigger than this sport though...





Ok ok.... I'm leaving .  Not a year to brag...
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 1:07:19 PM EDT
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Only ONE team is really bigger than this sport though...





Ok ok.... I'm leaving . Not a year to brag...
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Ya think???
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:11:10 PM EDT
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With Bob Bell leaving Mercedes, I could see Ferrari bringing him and Flavio on board in a kind of recreation of the Alonso Era Renault Sport F1 Team.

Too bad Pat Symmonds (who I thought Ferrari should have picked up two years ago) is at Williams, because that would make the brain trust complete.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 6:30:26 PM EDT
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I wouldn't call Ferrari bigger than the sport, but they are definitely one of the foundations of it.



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 7:47:02 PM EDT
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I like Flavio. He is an old bastard, but he knows how to win.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 8:45:52 PM EDT
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Plus he's always good for a couple of great quotes and/or tabloid stories.  Helps move the season along.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 8:48:04 PM EDT
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OH yes it could.  At least they are not having reliability issues.
 
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OH yes it could.  At least they are not having reliability issues.
 


I actually think they might start inducing failures so they can take advantage of the 'reliability change' loophole in the homologation rules.
Link Posted: 4/16/2014 5:00:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/16/2014 6:14:33 PM EDT
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I'll believe when it happens.



 
Link Posted: 4/17/2014 2:38:51 PM EDT
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China FP1 in less than 8 hours....
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I'll believe when it happens.


 
I don't see it happening... Ross walked away the year before his team that he built started realizing their dream, he's had numerous championships, a shitload of $, and he's gotta be tired of all the crap that seems to float around F1 these days.  





I'd love to see Ross back at Ferrari, and Michael too as a consultant when/if he recovers, considering they made the rest of the field look like a bunch of rolling roadblocks for most of the early 00's, but it's just not gonna happen.  





Figures though, it takes and Englishman and a German to make an Italian team great.





 
Link Posted: 4/17/2014 6:25:30 PM EDT
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The story I've read is that Luca's 'We're not looking for  mercenaries' comment was a thinly veiled shit-fit over Ross Brawn's salary demands when Ferrari approached him a few days ago.
Link Posted: 4/17/2014 6:44:21 PM EDT
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So is anyone getting a big ass grid spot penalty this week? Im trying to figure out "most spots gained"
Link Posted: 4/17/2014 10:26:41 PM EDT
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Maldando, but hes not going anywhere
Link Posted: 4/17/2014 10:31:00 PM EDT
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Probably won't count as positions gained when he crashes through the field at the first corner...







 
Link Posted: 4/17/2014 10:36:36 PM EDT
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Probably won't count as positions gained when he crashes through the field at the first corner...


 
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Probably won't count as positions gained when he crashes through the field at the first corner...


 

Link Posted: 4/18/2014 1:03:02 AM EDT
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Maldando, but hea not going anywhere
Probably won't count as positions gained when he crashes through the field at the first corner...


 

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/10152662_608424592567965_8154798703559823600_n.jpg




Hahahaha that's good.


I was up for FP1 and should be for FP2.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 2:12:57 AM EDT
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FP2 is live.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 2:32:45 AM EDT
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Maldonado has CRASHED IN THE PIT ENTRY.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 2:38:42 AM EDT
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So is what you are saying is that this was prophetic.

 
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 2:51:23 AM EDT
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his team HATES him.  money on whether or not hes fired before the race?



 
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 4:36:59 AM EDT
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his team HATES him.  money on whether or not hes fired before the race?
 
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his team HATES him.  money on whether or not hes fired before the race?
 



Link Posted: 4/18/2014 7:10:44 AM EDT
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Dang.. Alonso 1st in FP1 and second in FP2, only 1 tenth behind Hamilton, and 3 tenth ahead of Rosberg
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 5:56:30 PM EDT
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Maldonado has CRASHED IN THE PIT ENTRY.
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http://youtu.be/TF7B6oTbwnQ






Interesting. The article I read on this early had him saying he was fiddling with steering wheel settings. Clearly he just didn't turn hard enough to actually make the pit entrance. Clearly a case of:






 
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 6:31:44 PM EDT
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Dont worry crew...you cant sleep tonight, afterall you have to rebuild the car.....but Pastor said he is sorry
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 9:34:18 PM EDT
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Dont worry crew...you cant sleep tonight, afterall you have to rebuild the car.....but Pastor said he is sorry
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I'm wondering when he's going to get a pit crew blanket party.  I'll buy the soap!



 
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 9:37:51 PM EDT
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Looks like Romain is destroying his teammate so far after fp1 and 2. I'd like to see him get a podium sometime, he seems to be worthy of "most improved driver" over the past few years.
Link Posted: 4/18/2014 10:55:55 PM EDT
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Rain....
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Maldonado has CRASHED IN THE PIT ENTRY.
his team HATES him.  money on whether or not hes fired before the race?
 



http://youtu.be/TF7B6oTbwnQ


It looks like his steering broke, he seemed to have full lock and the wheels straightened up, he didn't even try to avoid the wall, he straightened up and went in.
Link Posted: 4/19/2014 1:15:50 AM EDT
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Wait.....what?

A Mercedes representative (while not representing the prosecution (FIA) or the defendant (Red Bull)) was allowed to cross examine Red Bull and submit options for additional penalties.

Mercedes recommended a 3 race ban.

Link Posted: 4/19/2014 8:10:46 AM EDT
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Wait.....what?

A Mercedes representative (while not representing the prosecution (FIA) or the defendant (Red Bull)) was allowed to cross examine Red Bull and submit options for additional penalties.

Mercedes recommended a 3 race ban.

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What are you talking about.

Where does that come from ?





As a side note, I'm disapointed the rain mixed the card for the qual... I'm sure the f14t was worth more than that under normal track,conditions
Link Posted: 4/19/2014 11:38:40 AM EDT
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Maldonado's engine is kaput so he won't be qualifying



Does that mean his 5 grid penalty is carried on to next race?

Link Posted: 4/19/2014 12:42:32 PM EDT
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Shitty weather qual.  Ricciardo did damn well!  Hamilton was a class above everyone though








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Link Posted: 4/19/2014 12:56:46 PM EDT
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One thing to keep in mind when reading about the politics behind these bans and penalties is that everyone in F1 has memories like rogue elephants.

I read somewhere that it was McLaren that challenged Renault's mass damper in 2006, which in turn led Renault to push for McLaren to get hammered in the Ferrari Spying case.  Which in turn led to McLaren trying to get Renault/Flavio banned over the 2008 Crashgate scandal.

So I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Mercedes is still pissed over something Red Bull did, like trying to get them penalized for that 'now it's illegal, now it's not' Pirelli test Mercedes did last year.
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One thing to keep in mind when reading about the politics behind these bans and penalties is that everyone in F1 has memories like rogue elephants.

I read somewhere that it was McLaren that challenged Renault's mass damper in 2006, which in turn led Renault to push for McLaren to get hammered in the Ferrari Spying case.  Which in turn led to McLaren trying to get Renault/Flavio banned over the 2008 Crashgate scandal.

So I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Mercedes is still pissed over something Red Bull did, like trying to get them penalized for that 'now it's illegal, now it's not' Pirelli test Mercedes did last year.
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Enlighten me..... What penalty are we talking about, right now ?  Still about that fuel sensor thing ?
Link Posted: 4/19/2014 2:15:15 PM EDT
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Buxton got in a great zing on The Red Menace.... Said that they were gonna make him start from Beijing.  
Link Posted: 4/19/2014 4:12:26 PM EDT
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What are you talking about.

Where does that come from ?

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A Mercedes representative (while not representing the prosecution (FIA) or the defendant (Red Bull)) was allowed to cross examine Red Bull and submit options for additional penalties.

Mercedes recommended a 3 race ban.



What are you talking about.

Where does that come from ?



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113453

Mercedes sent its own lawyer to argue against RB.
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