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Posted: 10/7/2014 11:59:57 AM EDT
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Oh man, not at all what we wanted to hear.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 12:05:36 PM EDT
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fuck
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Posted: 10/7/2014 12:31:32 PM EDT
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That is really too bad and probably final. It will be a true miracle if he wakes up much less drives a race car again.
I don't see this going well for Honda or the track either one. The decision to not change the time of the race, or doing something else, will be second guessed for years to come. Using that giant front loader to remove Sutil's car will be the focus of what was done wrong. Expect to see the safety car a lot more in the future at a minimum. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 12:36:37 PM EDT
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That is really too bad and probably final. It will be a true miracle if he wakes up much less drives a race car again. I don't see this going well for Honda or the track either one. The decision to not change the time of the race, or doing something else, will be second guessed for years to come. Using that giant front loader to remove Sutil's car will be the focus of what was done wrong. Expect to see the safety car a lot more in the future at a minimum. Race Control having remote capability to activate the pit speed limiter in all the cars may be coming. 
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Posted: 10/7/2014 1:07:44 PM EDT
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Race Control having remote capability to activate the pit speed limiter in all the cars may be coming. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is really too bad and probably final. It will be a true miracle if he wakes up much less drives a race car again. I don't see this going well for Honda or the track either one. The decision to not change the time of the race, or doing something else, will be second guessed for years to come. Using that giant front loader to remove Sutil's car will be the focus of what was done wrong. Expect to see the safety car a lot more in the future at a minimum. Race Control having remote capability to activate the pit speed limiter in all the cars may be coming. That would be ridiculously dangerous. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 1:24:28 PM EDT
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Why remove sutils car? Why? What was it hurting being that far off the track?
Not for nothing the cars are designed to impact eachother---not a crane. Worse case He would have hit sutils car. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 1:34:02 PM EDT
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Why remove sutils car? Why? What was it hurting being that far off the track? Not for nothing the cars are designed to impact eachother---not a crane. Worse case He would have hit sutils car. Which at the rate he was going could have done the same amount of damage or worse. It's was a freak accident, in which a multitude of factors came together in a tragic manner. And yes some things will be changed because of it, but society as a whole needs to lay of the "jumping to conclusions" and just accept that shit happens. They have removed cars like this for years and nothing has happened. Now we will see safety cars for spinoffs like in Indycar and people will be bitching that it takes away from the sport. Safest thing is to get the car off the track and 99.99999% these machines are the best method. Tragic accident and nothing more. Racing is an inherently dangerous sport. I don't want to see drivers hurt, but I hate how cookie cutter and clean everything has become on the past 10-15 years. We used to love these guys because they were Gods on 4 wheels who could be taken from us at any moment. They are still amazing talents, but for me, that pedastal we put them on isn't all that high anymore. End mini rant. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 1:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why remove sutils car? Why? What was it hurting being that far off the track? Not for nothing the cars are designed to impact eachother---not a crane. Worse case He would have hit sutils car. The Jules Bianchi that got into the racecar for that race is long gone....he will be a vegetable for the rest of his life...and that makes me sad.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 1:35:34 PM EDT
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Which at the rate he was going could have done the same amount of damage or worse. It's was a freak accident, in which a multitude of factors came together in a tragic manner. And yes some things will be changed because of it, but society as a whole needs to lay of the "jumping to conclusions" and just accept that shit happens. They have removed cars like this for years and nothing has happened. Now we will see safety cars for spinoffs like in Indycar and people will be bitching that it takes away from the sport. Safest thing is to get the car off the track and 99.99999% these machines are the best method. Tragic accident and nothing more. Racing is an inherently dangerous sport. I don't want to see drivers hurt, but I hate how cookie cutter and clean everything has become on the past 10-15 years. We used to love these guys because they were Gods on 4 wheels who could be taken from us at any moment. They are still amazing talents, but for me, that pedastal we put them on isn't all that high anymore. End mini rant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why remove sutils car? Why? What was it hurting being that far off the track? Not for nothing the cars are designed to impact eachother---not a crane. Worse case He would have hit sutils car. Which at the rate he was going could have done the same amount of damage or worse. It's was a freak accident, in which a multitude of factors came together in a tragic manner. And yes some things will be changed because of it, but society as a whole needs to lay of the "jumping to conclusions" and just accept that shit happens. They have removed cars like this for years and nothing has happened. Now we will see safety cars for spinoffs like in Indycar and people will be bitching that it takes away from the sport. Safest thing is to get the car off the track and 99.99999% these machines are the best method. Tragic accident and nothing more. Racing is an inherently dangerous sport. I don't want to see drivers hurt, but I hate how cookie cutter and clean everything has become on the past 10-15 years. We used to love these guys because they were Gods on 4 wheels who could be taken from us at any moment. They are still amazing talents, but for me, that pedastal we put them on isn't all that high anymore. End mini rant. Agreed. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 1:51:59 PM EDT
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He was on course for the gap between the walls....who knows what he would have hit....corner workers may have been killed or maybe he would have hit the crane as it was parked. It has been proven over and over that an out of control race car will hit the places no one ever thought about or will hit the areas not designed to be hit.....it just happens and will continue to happen. The Jules Bianchi that got into the racecar for that race is long gone....he will be a vegetable for the rest of his life...and that makes me sad.
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Why remove sutils car? Why? What was it hurting being that far off the track? Not for nothing the cars are designed to impact eachother---not a crane. Worse case He would have hit sutils car. The Jules Bianchi that got into the racecar for that race is long gone....he will be a vegetable for the rest of his life...and that makes me sad.
I think you may be right. This reminds me of Schumis accident - sure not the same type but still severe head injury. I sure hope the best for him. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 3:43:48 PM EDT
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He was on course for the gap between the walls....who knows what he would have hit....corner workers may have been killed or maybe he would have hit the crane as it was parked. It has been proven over and over that an out of control race car will hit the places no one ever thought about or will hit the areas not designed to be hit.....it just happens and will continue to happen. The Jules Bianchi that got into the racecar for that race is long gone....he will be a vegetable for the rest of his life...and that makes me sad.
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Why remove sutils car? Why? What was it hurting being that far off the track? Not for nothing the cars are designed to impact eachother---not a crane. Worse case He would have hit sutils car. The Jules Bianchi that got into the racecar for that race is long gone....he will be a vegetable for the rest of his life...and that makes me sad.
I'm fairly sure that hitting the lift redirected his car inbetween the walls. Those walls are designed to present a solid impact absorbing surface in the direction of the race traffic. Anything that doesn't present the solid wall defeats the design. That is why Sutil's car had to be removed, also Sutil's car was in what is called an impact area. Any car going off at Dunlop is going to impact the same general area. I do think we're going to end up seeing a saftey car for any car that is stopped on track until it's removed. It's not the best solution, but it's a safety measure that will be easily implimented, and the FIA can go to the public and say, "look at what we're doing in the matter of safety." |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 3:45:29 PM EDT
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I know it's shitty to ask... but is Rossi going to drive in Russia? Any news?
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Posted: 10/7/2014 3:49:12 PM EDT
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I know it's shitty to ask... but is Rossi going to drive in Russia? Any news? I haven't heard anything and I don't think Marussia is going to announce anything until Thursday or Friday. It seems like it would be Rossi since he was slotted to race in Spa, but they also signed a new reserve driver last weekend. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 6:16:51 PM EDT
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I had read somewhere that Russia was only allowing the parts that the teams had with them in Japan into the country. I don't know how accurate that statement is. If I were Team Marussia, I might consider only running one car as a tribute to Bianchi.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 6:31:29 PM EDT
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Why remove sutils car? Why? What was it hurting being that far off the track? Not for nothing the cars are designed to impact eachother---not a crane. Worse case He would have hit sutils car. Which at the rate he was going could have done the same amount of damage or worse. It's was a freak accident, in which a multitude of factors came together in a tragic manner. And yes some things will be changed because of it, but society as a whole needs to lay of the "jumping to conclusions" and just accept that shit happens. They have removed cars like this for years and nothing has happened. Now we will see safety cars for spinoffs like in Indycar and people will be bitching that it takes away from the sport. Safest thing is to get the car off the track and 99.99999% these machines are the best method. Tragic accident and nothing more. Racing is an inherently dangerous sport. I don't want to see drivers hurt, but I hate how cookie cutter and clean everything has become on the past 10-15 years. We used to love these guys because they were Gods on 4 wheels who could be taken from us at any moment. They are still amazing talents, but for me, that pedastal we put them on isn't all that high anymore. End mini rant. Agreed. Ditto. I will say that at I'm still feeling like the promoters REALLY screwed the pooch by not starting early. When a storm like that is barreling down on you... you make changes to the plan. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 6:32:47 PM EDT
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I had read somewhere that Russia was only allowing the parts that the teams had with them in Japan into the country. I don't know how accurate that statement is. If I were Team Marussia, I might consider only running one car as a tribute to Bianchi. Agreed. It's not like they were going to make a podium or score a lot of points anyways. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 6:34:17 PM EDT
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The outcome is frequently coma, with over 90% of patients with severe DAI never regaining consciousness. Those who do wake up often remain significantly impaired.
Prayers Jules
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Posted: 10/7/2014 6:51:22 PM EDT
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Bottom line, the accident was avoidable.
Racing is a dangerous sport, but this is not the first time a car has hit a recovery/tow vehicle. I know it for fact, because I have been there, done that. Sadly accidents like this are what it takes for otherwise intelligent people to ask questions. They could learn from Moto GP. The marshals have portable barriers to dispatch around disabled bikes and riders. No doubt something similar could be implemented. Whatever happens, rules and procedures will change. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 6:53:45 PM EDT
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I wonder how bad the rain was compared to '76 when Lauda just walked away.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 7:26:43 PM EDT
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There are differing opinions on how wet the track was. Rossberg said he didn't have as much of a problem because his car had more downforce, therefore more grip.
Massa said he was yelling over the radio to get the safety car out there because of the conditions. Each driver has to determine how fast he can safely drive...sometimes they exceed that speed. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 9:23:18 PM EDT
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There are differing opinions on how wet the track was. Rossberg said he didn't have as much of a problem because his car had more downforce, therefore more grip. Massa said he was yelling over the radio to get the safety car out there because of the conditions. Each driver has to determine how fast he can safely drive...sometimes they exceed that speed. Supposedly both Bianchi and Sutil were on well-worn Intermediates, poor situation for the conditions. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 9:23:35 PM EDT
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Something I noticed and something that was kind of confusing, when I first watched the video that is in this thread earlier, was the waving green flag at the scene of Sutil's crash.
Yellow flags are waved before and at the scene of a crash during a race. If you watch the top right corner you see the guy in the tower waving double yellow flags. Yellow flags are normally displayed either as a single yellow flag (no passing, be alert and stop racing due to a hazard on or next to the track) , a waving yellow flag (slow down, no passing, dangerous conditions) and if you see double yellow flags being waved then you need to get completely out of it, slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary. Basically the more frantically the flag or flags are being waved the greater the danger ahead and the slower you need to be going. At the start of the video you can see the flagger in the tower waving double yellow flags. Then as Sutil's car is picked up and the loader begins to move you see the flagger start waving a green flag. At the location of the crash. That's the all clear signal. Green means go. It makes no sense the flagger did what he did. The car and loader were still in the impact zone. I know from my own experience racing that you nail it when you see a green flag. I think Bianchi came around the corner so a green flag and jumped on the gas. Whether he lost control due to the wet conditions, something broke, or whatever he left the track at high speed and with the wet conditions once he was off the track he was just along for the ride. When your at speed it takes a lot of time to look to the side and then back down the track. You don't normally look to the side of the track since it takes to re-focus back on the track, its more of a peripheral vision thing with stuff off the track or to the side. You look down the track into the next corner not at what's off to the side. So Bianchi probably just saw the green flag and not the loader as he came around the corner and put his foot back down. Watch the video again. There is no reason what so ever for the flagger to start waving a green flag when he did. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 9:24:12 PM EDT
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Double tap.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 9:32:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how bad the rain was compared to '76 when Lauda just walked away. Given huge advances in tire, suspension and aero design - I don't think you can draw a comparison. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 9:34:17 PM EDT
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There are differing opinions on how wet the track was. Rossberg said he didn't have as much of a problem because his car had more downforce, therefore more grip. Massa said he was yelling over the radio to get the safety car out there because of the conditions. Each driver has to determine how fast he can safely drive...sometimes they exceed that speed. Knowing the perspective that Massa has (F1 incident that nearly killed him), I seriously respect his insight and would seriously consider what he recommends in regards to driver safety. At the point of the incident there really weren't any spots in contention other than Vettel's off track excursion closed the gap between himself and those chasing him. Even a moment like that should indicate that the conditions were dangerous. God speed Jules! |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 9:52:55 PM EDT
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God me and my dad watched the race and we both had bad feelings about the weather condition. It was on commercial when it happened and the screen was real small so we didn't know what was going on. We had no idea how bad it was because no one would show the video. After viewing it my stomach is twisting. God I hope we hear some good news.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 10:01:35 PM EDT
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It is a VERY good thing that the nose of his car hit first and appears to have bounced it higher into his helmet as opposed to straight on.
We were ready to start the race here at 10am and my wifes water broke. Spent some time on GD trying to ignore any f1 spoilers and saw the thoughts and prayers to Jules in the thread title. Managed to keep from it until just now. Damn what a hit, makes me sick. But, we have a beautiful baby girl in NICU which is very hard but she and mom are doing great! |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 12:45:44 AM EDT
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Bottom line, the accident was avoidable. Racing is a dangerous sport, but this is not the first time a car has hit a recovery/tow vehicle. I know it for fact, because I have been there, done that. Sadly accidents like this are what it takes for otherwise intelligent people to ask questions. They could learn from Moto GP. The marshals have portable barriers to dispatch around disabled bikes and riders. No doubt something similar could be implemented. Whatever happens, rules and procedures will change. You'd need a hell of a barrier to stop an F1 car, wouldn't you? Then you'd need to be able to deploy it. Sounds like a lot more vehicles and people on track. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 1:41:14 AM EDT
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The outcome is frequently coma, with over 90% of patients with severe DAI never regaining consciousness. Those who do wake up often remain significantly impaired. Prayers Jules I just read this in a German news paper what shame this basically means he is done racing. what a shame |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:47:24 AM EDT
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Something I noticed and something that was kind of confusing, when I first watched the video that is in this thread earlier, was the waving green flag at the scene of Sutil's crash. Yellow flags are waved before and at the scene of a crash during a race. If you watch the top right corner you see the guy in the tower waving double yellow flags. Yellow flags are normally displayed either as a single yellow flag (no passing, be alert and stop racing due to a hazard on or next to the track) , a waving yellow flag (slow down, no passing, dangerous conditions) and if you see double yellow flags being waved then you need to get completely out of it, slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary. Basically the more frantically the flag or flags are being waved the greater the danger ahead and the slower you need to be going. At the start of the video you can see the flagger in the tower waving double yellow flags. Then as Sutil's car is picked up and the loader begins to move you see the flagger start waving a green flag. At the location of the crash. That's the all clear signal. Green means go. It makes no sense the flagger did what he did. The car and loader were still in the impact zone. I know from my own experience racing that you nail it when you see a green flag. I think Bianchi came around the corner so a green flag and jumped on the gas. Whether he lost control due to the wet conditions, something broke, or whatever he left the track at high speed and with the wet conditions once he was off the track he was just along for the ride. When your at speed it takes a lot of time to look to the side and then back down the track. You don't normally look to the side of the track since it takes to re-focus back on the track, its more of a peripheral vision thing with stuff off the track or to the side. You look down the track into the next corner not at what's off to the side. So Bianchi probably just saw the green flag and not the loader as he came around the corner and put his foot back down. Watch the video again. There is no reason what so ever for the flagger to start waving a green flag when he did. The flagger had flags for the sector AFTER the incident. The sector with Sutil's car and where Bianchi's accident happened was under the yellow. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:47:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:48:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd need a hell of a barrier to stop an F1 car, wouldn't you? Then you'd need to be able to deploy it. Sounds like a lot more vehicles and people on track. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bottom line, the accident was avoidable. Racing is a dangerous sport, but this is not the first time a car has hit a recovery/tow vehicle. I know it for fact, because I have been there, done that. Sadly accidents like this are what it takes for otherwise intelligent people to ask questions. They could learn from Moto GP. The marshals have portable barriers to dispatch around disabled bikes and riders. No doubt something similar could be implemented. Whatever happens, rules and procedures will change. You'd need a hell of a barrier to stop an F1 car, wouldn't you? Then you'd need to be able to deploy it. Sounds like a lot more vehicles and people on track. I don't think you need to stop it - as much as absorb a substantial amount of the force. I'm hazy on this - but I though I recalled a race (Monaco?) where there was a crash and track workers brought out very large foam blocks (like Safer barrier foam) to temporarily shield the crash site. All that energy needs to go somewhere. They won't be able to hastily erect a barrier/shield that protects both track workers AND drivers. Its a matter of providing some deceleration. Putting track workers on or near the racing surface when cars are at or near speed is phenomenally dangerous. I have seen examples of this in the last two years that make me wince. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 10:02:30 AM EDT
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I found this article to be interesting. I know someone mentioned it earlier about the FIA having control over the pit lane speed limiters while the cars are on track. At Le Mans this year they tried something similar to that in the local yellows only to avoid having the safety cars out for hours on end. It seemed to work well on an 8+ mile long track but I wonder how well it would work in F1 with much shorter tracks and lower lap times.
Link Hope Bianchi pulls through |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 1:02:31 PM EDT
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I found this article to be interesting. I know someone mentioned it earlier about the FIA having control over the pit lane speed limiters while the cars are on track. At Le Mans this year they tried something similar to that in the local yellows only to avoid having the safety cars out for hours on end. It seemed to work well on an 8+ mile long track but I wonder how well it would work in F1 with much shorter tracks and lower lap times. Link Hope Bianchi pulls through Sounds good until there are electrical glitches and someone gets forced from 200 down to 50 while the guy behind him is running DRS. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 1:04:55 PM EDT
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I found this article to be interesting. I know someone mentioned it earlier about the FIA having control over the pit lane speed limiters while the cars are on track. At Le Mans this year they tried something similar to that in the local yellows only to avoid having the safety cars out for hours on end. It seemed to work well on an 8+ mile long track but I wonder how well it would work in F1 with much shorter tracks and lower lap times. Link Hope Bianchi pulls through Sounds good until there are electrical glitches and someone gets forced from 200 down to 50 while the guy behind him is running DRS. I'm not worried about that nearly as much as I am some poor bastard getting snap-oversteered off the track because his throttle chopped down to nothing in the wrong part of a corner. 
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Posted: 10/8/2014 1:06:53 PM EDT
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I updated the title because there is a race this Sunday, the maiden GP in Sochi, Russia. Obviously all of our thoughts and prayers are with Jules, his family, and the Marussia team. I hope we can continue the discussion of the events at Suzuka and also focus on the upcoming race and the remainder of the season.
This is one of the last 4 faces of the season. Schedule for this weekend: Friday 10/10 FP1 - 2-3:30am FP2 - 6-7:30am Saturday 10/11 FP3 - 4-5am Qualifying - 7-8am Sunday 10/12 RACE - 7am FANTASY PICKS MUST BE SUBMITTED BY 6:55AM ON SATURDAY 10/11 There are a lot of questions that need answering before FP1 happens. Will Buxton has tweeted that Marssia is prepping 2 cars for this weekend. A big question is who will be driving alongside Max Chilton. I have heard Rossi mentioned which would be pretty great for his career. Are there going to be any safety updates or rule changes with immediate effect? I assume those won't be announced until before FP1 and a trivers/team meetings with the FIA. This has been a rough few days for the Formula 1 community. It has been great seeing the support and civil discussion on this page. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 1:15:23 PM EDT
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I found this article to be interesting. I know someone mentioned it earlier about the FIA having control over the pit lane speed limiters while the cars are on track. At Le Mans this year they tried something similar to that in the local yellows only to avoid having the safety cars out for hours on end. It seemed to work well on an 8+ mile long track but I wonder how well it would work in F1 with much shorter tracks and lower lap times. Link Hope Bianchi pulls through Sounds good until there are electrical glitches and someone gets forced from 200 down to 50 while the guy behind him is running DRS. I'm not worried about that nearly as much as I am some poor bastard getting snap-oversteered off the track because his throttle chopped down to nothing in the wrong part of a corner. I think Gary Hartstein's Fromer F1 Doc's Blog post says it best. Before things get out of hand with knee-jerk reform, the laws on the books must be enforced first. I would hate to draw this comparison anywhere else but on a firearms-related board, but we as gun owners know this all too well every time a firearm is used in a tragedy we are the loudest yelling to enforce the laws that are already there. After Senna died in '94 there were chicanes placed EVERYWHERE. 
I don't think anyone wants to see moves like that, not even drivers. Also, the word is that Alonso has already signed with McLaren for 2015. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 2:05:52 PM EDT
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Well put fluffy bunny, our thoughts will remain with Jules as the season continues in Russia this weekend. I agree the current rules should be enforced before any new regulations are even considered. The way it currently is, drivers who slow down the most are penalized the most. Racing is inherently dangerous, it's amazing we see drivers walk away from what would have been fatal crashes in the past. I always remember seeing Webber flip in Valencia, I was amazed to see him walk away from that.
I'll be looking to defend my fantasy lead over the last 4 races, what does the winner get btw? |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 3:01:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow that's actually worse than I imagined it was. Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow that's actually worse than I imagined it was. If there's equipment inside the armco, the cars should be stopped. Period.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 3:05:27 PM EDT
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Well put fluffy bunny, our thoughts will remain with Jules as the season continues in Russia this weekend. I agree the current rules should be enforced before any new regulations are even considered. The way it currently is, drivers who slow down the most are penalized the most. Racing is inherently dangerous, it's amazing we see drivers walk away from what would have been fatal crashes in the past. I always remember seeing Webber flip in Valencia, I was amazed to see him walk away from that. I'll be looking to defend my fantasy lead over the last 4 races, what does the winner get btw? I was just watching that again a week or two ago. It's just amazing how much they've been able to sanitize the sport that you can go through a violent crash like that, and have the driver walk away. I think that this incident has been an eye-opener to some of the younger generation who've never seen a driver stretchered-off the track. I don't think they'll slow-down for long because of it. Because every driver thinks it will never happen to him. Anyways... I've said a prayer for Bianchi and his family and hope for the best (as with Schumi). And despite this tragedy... I'm STILL disgusted by the farty sound that these engines make as the season nears its close. Unfortunately, every time I catch even the slightest wiff of F1 racing in years past, I am instantly angered, frustrated, and sad at the poor excuse that we have for sound this year. But I STILL haven't gotten over the move to 4-stroke engines in MX/SX from 2-strokes either. Guess I'm old, cranky, and resistant to change that way...
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Posted: 10/8/2014 4:44:33 PM EDT
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Man do I want this shirt.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 6:24:14 PM EDT
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I'm not worried about that nearly as much as I am some poor bastard getting snap-oversteered off the track because his throttle chopped down to nothing in the wrong part of a corner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I found this article to be interesting. I know someone mentioned it earlier about the FIA having control over the pit lane speed limiters while the cars are on track. At Le Mans this year they tried something similar to that in the local yellows only to avoid having the safety cars out for hours on end. It seemed to work well on an 8+ mile long track but I wonder how well it would work in F1 with much shorter tracks and lower lap times. Link Hope Bianchi pulls through Sounds good until there are electrical glitches and someone gets forced from 200 down to 50 while the guy behind him is running DRS. I'm not worried about that nearly as much as I am some poor bastard getting snap-oversteered off the track because his throttle chopped down to nothing in the wrong part of a corner. Basically what I said with an actual racing idea behind it. 
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Posted: 10/8/2014 6:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat shirt will stop Ebola cold in its tracks. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAlso, the word is that Alonso has already signed with McLaren for 2015.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:15:11 PM EDT
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Where are you hearing this from? haven't seen much else yet from either side as to where he is going. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Also, the word is that Alonso has already signed with McLaren for 2015.
Where are you hearing this from? haven't seen much else yet from either side as to where he is going. This morning I read Hamilton signed with McLaren, in the afternoon I heard Alonso signed with McLaren. Maybe tonight Raikonnen will sign with McLaren. I wonder if they realize they only need two drivers? |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:21:59 PM EDT
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Also, the word is that Alonso has already signed with McLaren for 2015.
Where are you hearing this from? haven't seen much else yet from either side as to where he is going. This morning I read Hamilton signed with McLaren, in the afternoon I heard Alonso signed with McLaren. Maybe tonight Raikonnen will sign with McLaren. I wonder if they realize they only need two drivers? Dear lord. Ron Dennis, Alonso, and Hamilton at McLaren again? This pretty much guarantees Raikkonen a championship by 1 point! I can't find it right now but it was from an interview with Nikki Lauda, I believe. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:25:51 PM EDT
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Also, the word is that Alonso has already signed with McLaren for 2015.
Where are you hearing this from? haven't seen much else yet from either side as to where he is going. This morning I read Hamilton signed with McLaren, in the afternoon I heard Alonso signed with McLaren. Maybe tonight Raikonnen will sign with McLaren. I wonder if they realize they only need two drivers? Read that too, but the site it came from I would never trust. Obviously you know that, but still funny. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:50:58 PM EDT
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You guys see that Lotus is looking to use Mercedes engines next year?
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:01:44 PM EDT
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You guys see that Lotus is looking to use Mercedes engines next year? http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/9508641/Lotus-closing-in-on-Merc-deal Merc better not ship any engines until the check clears..... |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:32:58 PM EDT
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