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Posted: 7/28/2014 7:40:25 PM EDT
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And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:19:20 PM EDT
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And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x  how long has it been that way?
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:20:40 PM EDT
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how long has it been that way?Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x how long has it been that way?Just now |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:28:09 PM EDT
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We'll see, but I think the second half of the year is going to be a little bit tougher for them with both RBR and Ferrari (Alonso's side anyway) seeming to be getting their shit together, and Williams also being right up there. Whether anyone will ever get close enough to challenge for the WCC, I doubt it... but 3 or 4 double DNFs for Merc with Redbull up on the podium with both drivers could close it up quick... it's happened before. I wonder if Nico and Lewis could still be considered friends like before this season? 
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i really do hope merc doesnt descend into team order bs near the end of the season. As I mentioned before, I don't think they will. Barring some serious string of DNFs, Mercedes will clinch the Constructors' title in a few more races and start focusing on the 2015 car... I think they'll just let Nico and Lewis fight it out. Why wouldn't they at that point? We'll see, but I think the second half of the year is going to be a little bit tougher for them with both RBR and Ferrari (Alonso's side anyway) seeming to be getting their shit together, and Williams also being right up there. Whether anyone will ever get close enough to challenge for the WCC, I doubt it... but 3 or 4 double DNFs for Merc with Redbull up on the podium with both drivers could close it up quick... it's happened before. I wonder if Nico and Lewis could still be considered friends like before this season?
I predict a new Senna-Prost fighting style... |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:32:33 PM EDT
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Hungarian Grand Prix replay on NBCSP at midnight tonight (EST)
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:36:41 PM EDT
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I think it's only a matter of time before there is a Nico/Lewis on-track collision.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 9:55:03 PM EDT
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Alonso is a flat out stud right now. Hamilton is also showing flashes of greatness. I know the Merc has been dominant this year, but I doubt that Ricciardo, Vettel, or Nico would have been able to start from the pit, and have been competing for the podium.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 2:05:31 AM EDT
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Alonso has been a flat out stud for the last 9 years. FIFY |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:46:07 PM EDT
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Alonso is a flat out stud right now. Hamilton is also showing flashes of greatness. I know the Merc has been dominant this year, but I doubt that Ricciardo, Vettel, or Nico would have been able to start from the pit, and have been competing for the podium. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Alonso is a flat out stud right now. Hamilton is also showing flashes of greatness. I know the Merc has been dominant this year, but I doubt that Ricciardo, Vettel, or Nico would have been able to start from the pit, and have been competing for the podium. With the timing of the Safety Car, being at the back was actually an advantage over being at the front: JA Link How did the top four cars at the start miss out on pitting under the safety car?
When Ericsson crashed, the leader Rosberg was in Turn 13, close to the end of the lap. A yellow flag icon was shown by Race Control for Turn 13, but teams don’t pre-empt Safety Cars based only on that. It was a few seconds later that the TV image was shown of the damaged car and it became likely that a Safety Car would be deployed. At this point, Rosberg was already past the pit lane entry, so he was committed to another lap. Bottas, Vettel and Alonso were 10 seconds behind him at this point – the Mercedes had been extremely fast on intermediate tyres. They just about had time to react, but didn’t react quickly enough to make the call to pit. The bad luck part was that, unusually, the Safety Car itself went out on track very quickly and actually picked up the leader, Rosberg, who failed to get through by a few metres. It therefore also caught Bottas, Vettel and Alonso in its wake. Normally the Safety Car goes out at such time as cars that have missed the pit entry are able to go around at the official 80% of race lap speed and make the stop the next lap. The problem for the leading four here was that the Safety Car itself only travels at 55% of the race lap speed, so they lost tonnes of time behind it and by the time they had made it in and out of the pits, Rosberg had dropped to fourth, Bottas to 11th, Vettel and Alonso to 7th and 8th. The disadvantage of being stuck behind slower cars on a drying track that was still wet off line makes Alonso's drive even more brilliant: In practice sessions and the race to that point, no-one had done 32 laps on a set of softs, which is what Alonso would need to do in order to make it to the finish without stopping. From practice the predictions ere 21 laps maximum. Factor in cooler temperatures and you could push it to 25 laps. Add in some skilled tyre management by the driver and you might get to 28-29 laps. But 32 laps was hard to imagine. It highlights what an outstanding drive it was by Alonso. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 2:42:55 PM EDT
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Anyone have pics of his 32 lap softs?
I saw a brief flash as the car was pulling into the ... podium lane? and the inside portions just looked roasted 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 4:40:57 PM EDT
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You Tube of the Accident that led to these draconian Safety Car rules: Alonso's Accident at the 2003 Brazilian GP.
Back then, it was common to run at qualifying lap speed to make the pits before you took the Safety Car. 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:45:52 PM EDT
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And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x Stupid pro wrestling gimmick. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 10:03:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x Yep, its going to absolutely make a farce of the driver's championship. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 10:57:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, its going to absolutely make a farce of the driver's championship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x Yep, its going to absolutely make a farce of the driver's championship. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 11:11:58 AM EDT
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I hate this summer break period.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 11:13:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIndeed. Especially when the races have just been getting better and better... I hope this break doesn't kill that momentum. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 11:49:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. Especially when the races have just been getting better and better... I hope this break doesn't kill that momentum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. Especially when the races have just been getting better and better... I hope this break doesn't kill that momentum. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 2:30:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's ridiculous. In 6 of the last 8 seasons, the driver's championship has been won by less than 14 points. In 4 of them, it was won by less than 5 points. 2 of them were decided by only 1 point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x Yep, its going to absolutely make a farce of the driver's championship. Yep and this year the championship is going to be won by someone in third, fourth or fifth because they get lucky in the last race. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:02:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep and this year the championship is going to be won by someone in third, fourth or fifth because they get lucky in the last race. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And don't forget that last race points are worth 2x Yep, its going to absolutely make a farce of the driver's championship. Yep and this year the championship is going to be won by someone in third, fourth or fifth because they get lucky in the last race. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:09:30 PM EDT
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WDC is going to Hamilton or Rosberg, the last race won't matter in that respect. They will both be well clear of the rest of the pack by the time they arrive at Yas Marina for the last race, unless the Mercs start blowing up on a regular basis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep and this year the championship is going to be won by someone in third, fourth or fifth because they get lucky in the last race. I agree, the double points will probably have a bigger impact on the constructor race between 2-5. It will be interesting if Rosberg doesn't have a 15 pt lead before Abu Dhabi though. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 10:23:42 PM EDT
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Plumber, have you been editing Wikipedia recently?
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Posted: 7/31/2014 10:49:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plumber, have you been editing Wikipedia recently? https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10473441_660524327357991_1801300152530814328_n.jpg?oh=5890af9c08a37148ba92da17b0f0d127&oe=5452690B  |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 2:09:47 AM EDT
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Ferrari has officially announced that its engine chief Luca Marmorini has left the team following a very difficult start to the new turbo engine era of Formula 1. Luca Marmorini’s departure didn’t come as a surprise as it has been long rumoured that the key figure at the Maranello-based team’s engine department won’t be retained any further. Mattia Binotto will take over from him. Lorenzo Sassi who worked at the Ferrari engine department since 2006 will become Chief Designer of Ferrari's next F1 engines. |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 5:26:11 AM EDT
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Plumber, have you been editing Wikipedia recently? https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10473441_660524327357991_1801300152530814328_n.jpg?oh=5890af9c08a37148ba92da17b0f0d127&oe=5452690B Hahahahaha. 
I'm a Button and McLaren fan, so if I edited it you'd see JB with those wins and McLaren win constructor's. I like Hamilton, but I'm by no means his biggest fan. I just see a lot of Hamilton hate and dogpiling which I think is a bit unnecessary so I try to stand up for him. It's going to be a long month until Spa... |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 8:36:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2014 6:30:53 PM EDT
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Found on the Judge:
Red Bull-Honda negotiate a contract for 2015-16 When Honda announced their return to Formula One, they made it in conjunction with their previous partner Mclaren. Their record of success in the late 80’s/ early 90’s made icons of the cars and drivers. As ever all cycles come to an end and the baton of domination passed to Wiliams-Renault. Honda pulled out and their efforts since have been half-hearted at best. Many fans of the Woking team have been rejoicing and counting down the days to when they will dominate the sport once more and in their search for success, Honda have been aggressive on their ideal choice of drivers. Ayrton Senna, arguably the greatest driver in the history of the sport, was a fundamental part of their success, and his mindset mirrored the Japanese Samurai perfectly. Therefore it is only certain drivers that would be acceptable to the Japanese manufacturer – hence the approaches to Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton and Sebastien Vettel. Obviously Jenson Button doesn’t figure highly in their plans. Another aspect of their return which has caused many rumours to take hold of on-lookers is the fact that Honda is building it’s engine facility in Milton Keynes. A mere stone’s throw from the Red Bull headquarters. A reasonable question, which has received no answer but just fanned the flames of speculation is, why not Woking? Honda have decided to complete the design work in Japan, to avoid other manufacturers from head-hunting their engineers as they did in the eighties, but the engines will be worked on at this new facility which is scheduled to go live in January 2015. With the ongoing trevails suffered by the formerly dominant Red Bull squad – and their disappointing Renault power unit – the quite blatant attacks by both Helmut Marko and Christian Horner clumsily putting pressure on a manufacturer have added further fuel to the fire with Honda’s location. With the current performance of the once great Mclaren proving so disappointing – in a field of four Mercedes powered cars – and Ron Deniis returning to steady the helm despite Honda having signed the contract with his predecessor – Martin Whitmarsh – it has been suggested that Honda is looking to become a partner to Red Bull after their exclusive one year deal with Mclaren expires. Of some interest to all this scenario is that the Honda MotoGP team have signed a deal with Red Bull for 2015 and 2016. It’s fair to point out that Red Bull have been sponsoring riders individually since Nicky Hayden rode for Honda in 2006, in much the same way that Red Bull first appeared in Formula One as a driver sponsor of Gerhard Berger. It then took a larger slice by sponsoring Sauber for a number of years before establishing it’s own team and the sister team – Toro Rosso. But of far greater significance is that although Red Bull have been sponsoring Dani Pedrosa and Marc Marquez on personal deals, Red Bull’s partnership has moved on to the bike itself now. Shuei Nakamoto – vice Executive Chairman of the HRC said of the arrangement: "Red Bull has been our partner for 9 years now. The next step is represented by this agreement which will further increase our visibility globally. I think this is an important agreement for our sport.” Interdasting...  |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 7:05:27 PM EDT
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38 years ago today.
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Posted: 8/1/2014 8:33:23 PM EDT
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38 years ago today. https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10556364_660935753983515_5791925180213760674_n.jpg I'll be damned, didn't know that. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 12:08:08 AM EDT
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Hakkinen confirming rumors between McLaren and Bottas.
That'd be interesting having a Dane and a Finn. I don't believe Magnussen is going anywhere in the next year or two and predictably JB will be out at the end of this year or next. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 12:13:10 AM EDT
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Found on the Judge: I've never heard of TJ13 before now. Thanks for mentioning it, it's good readin'. 
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:44:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hakkinen confirming rumors between McLaren and Bottas. That'd be interesting having a Dane and a Finn. I don't believe Magnussen is going anywhere in the next year or two and predictably JB will be out at the end of this year or next. I will miss JB.. A lot of people don't respect him, but he is one hell of a smooth driver, probably easier on his car than 90% of the field. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 10:53:41 PM EDT
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I will miss JB.. A lot of people don't respect him, but he is one hell of a smooth driver, probably easier on his car than 90% of the field. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hakkinen confirming rumors between McLaren and Bottas. That'd be interesting having a Dane and a Finn. I don't believe Magnussen is going anywhere in the next year or two and predictably JB will be out at the end of this year or next. I will miss JB.. A lot of people don't respect him, but he is one hell of a smooth driver, probably easier on his car than 90% of the field. That's one of the reasons I like him. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Unfortunately he needs a car designed for his sweet spot. If it's not built for him he just doesn't get to the top and we hear him talking about massive understeer or massive oversteer. Vettel, IMHO, has a touch of that but can still wrangle a crappy ride. JB's 2009 season is one of my favorites. The Brawn showing up in just white and day-glow green and winning was shockingly awesome. |
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Posted: 8/3/2014 12:02:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's one of the reasons I like him. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Unfortunately he needs a car designed for his sweet spot. If it's not built for him he just doesn't get to the top and we hear him talking about massive understeer or massive oversteer. Vettel, IMHO, has a touch of that but can still wrangle a crappy ride. JB's 2009 season is one of my favorites. The Brawn showing up in just white and day-glow green and winning was shockingly awesome. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hakkinen confirming rumors between McLaren and Bottas. That'd be interesting having a Dane and a Finn. I don't believe Magnussen is going anywhere in the next year or two and predictably JB will be out at the end of this year or next. I will miss JB.. A lot of people don't respect him, but he is one hell of a smooth driver, probably easier on his car than 90% of the field. That's one of the reasons I like him. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Unfortunately he needs a car designed for his sweet spot. If it's not built for him he just doesn't get to the top and we hear him talking about massive understeer or massive oversteer. Vettel, IMHO, has a touch of that but can still wrangle a crappy ride. JB's 2009 season is one of my favorites. The Brawn showing up in just white and day-glow green and winning was shockingly awesome. No disrespect meant to him, I really do like him, but I just can't see him winning another championship. That year was an anomoly, though he did everything right to take advantage if it.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 12:29:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's one of the reasons I like him. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Unfortunately he needs a car designed for his sweet spot. If it's not built for him he just doesn't get to the top and we hear him talking about massive understeer or massive oversteer. Vettel, IMHO, has a touch of that but can still wrangle a crappy ride. JB's 2009 season is one of my favorites. The Brawn showing up in just white and day-glow green and winning was shockingly awesome. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hakkinen confirming rumors between McLaren and Bottas. That'd be interesting having a Dane and a Finn. I don't believe Magnussen is going anywhere in the next year or two and predictably JB will be out at the end of this year or next. I will miss JB.. A lot of people don't respect him, but he is one hell of a smooth driver, probably easier on his car than 90% of the field. That's one of the reasons I like him. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Unfortunately he needs a car designed for his sweet spot. If it's not built for him he just doesn't get to the top and we hear him talking about massive understeer or massive oversteer. Vettel, IMHO, has a touch of that but can still wrangle a crappy ride. JB's 2009 season is one of my favorites. The Brawn showing up in just white and day-glow green and winning was shockingly awesome. Agreed. Now, if we could just get Ross out of retirement... m |
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Posted: 8/3/2014 9:11:45 AM EDT
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I have 2011 - current seasons on my dvr, trying to figure out which race to watch this morning. Leaning towards Canada 2011 (12 maybe) with all this talk of Button. I think that was one of the better drives in recent history.
Any other ideas? We have a few friends that come over on sunday mornings to watch the race and drink mimosas. Summer break is for watching the gems. |
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Posted: 8/3/2014 9:54:17 AM EDT
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I have 2011 - current seasons on my dvr, trying to figure out which race to watch this morning. Leaning towards Canada 2011 (12 maybe) with all this talk of Button. I think that was one of the better drives in recent history. Any other ideas? We have a few friends that come over on sunday mornings to watch the race and drink mimosas. Summer break is for watching the gems. 2007 German GP is one of my favs. |
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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:39:55 PM EDT
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Mid-season highlights.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 12:40:10 AM EDT
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Ouch.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 1:53:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2014 8:57:56 AM EDT
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Who was driving? DC?
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:48:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryRed hot and no air movement FTW!!! whoops is right. Hey, Honey, I set another car on fire today... |
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Posted: 8/4/2014 1:14:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDon't know what sounds worse the car or the music. 
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Posted: 8/4/2014 2:49:32 PM EDT
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Don't know what sounds worse the car or the music. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Don't know what sounds worse the car or the music. Mute is your friend 
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:49:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:54:35 PM EDT
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Who was driving? DC? The Red Bull Show Car is a chance to put on a spectacular show, but Russian fans in Chelyabinsk got even more smoke than usual last weekend. GP3 Series leader, Alex Lynn was enjoying some burnouts in the title-winning RB7 until the car dramatically caught on fire. |
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Posted: 8/4/2014 8:23:19 PM EDT
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Anything about Hamilton and team 'orders'?
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:57:53 PM EDT
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Who was driving? DC? The Red Bull Show Car is a chance to put on a spectacular show, but Russian fans in Chelyabinsk got even more smoke than usual last weekend. GP3 Series leader, Alex Lynn was enjoying some burnouts in the title-winning RB7 until the car dramatically caught on fire. Guess whos hopes of F1 just took a couple year delay |
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:25:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anything about Hamilton and team 'orders'? http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/28517704 Best article I could find. They are definitely going to have to rethink things.. but it's pretty simple actually.. Here's how I would handle it: "Hey guys, you're fighting for the title, we get it. Fair enough, so go racing.. but the INSTANT you collide, we are going to pick a champion, and the other driver will have to yield, no matter what, if he wants a ride next year." I will stand by Lewis 100% on this though, there is absolutely no benefit to him in slowing down to let Nico past, and it's not like they are hurting enough for constructor points that the one place Nico MIGHT have gained was that important. I also seriously doubt they will do anything to to him at Merc, considering they didn't do a damn thing to Nico at Monaco, and I'm roughly 80% sure he cheated in qualy. |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:36:21 PM EDT
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Bernie solved his bribery lawsuit. Paid the court $100 million and poof, like it never happened. Must be nice...
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Posted: 8/5/2014 11:12:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bernie solved his bribery lawsuit. Paid the court $100 million and poof, like it never happened. Must be nice... Quote HistoryQuoted: Bernie solved his bribery lawsuit. Paid the court $100 million and poof, like it never happened. Must be nice... Even after Bernie admitted to paying the $44Million, while claiming he was being blackmailed, and a different court in a different case said: "The payments were a bribe,” the judge ruled. "They were made because Mr Ecclestone had entered into a corrupt agreement with Dr Gribkowsky in May 2005 under which Dr Gribkowsky was to be rewarded for facilitating the sale of [Bayerische Landesbank's] shares in the Formula One group to a buyer acceptable to Mr Ecclestone.” From Yahoo Former justice minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger had blasted reports of the Ecclestone deal Monday as "galling" and "not in harmony with the sense and purpose of our legal practices". She called on lawmakers to tighten or eliminate the loophole, which is designed to expedite cases before overburdened courts and whose sums are calculated based on the defendant's financial means. "The saying goes 'money doesn't stink' but that's wrong here: these millions stink to high heaven," the Sueddeutsche Zeitung wrote. |
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