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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:31:37 AM EDT
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Another damn good race (well, everywhere but the front anyway). The Alonso/Ricciardo duel was incredible.
I kinda hope that Ham can win a few again and tighten up the driver's championship, just for the drama. I'm envisioning a scenario where Mercedes has clinched the constructors' title with as many as 5-5 races to go (which is damn likely). The two drivers are still nip and tuck for the drivers' championship, but the team doesn't really give a damn... they're working on the 2015 car and have nothing else to win... so they just let Nico and Ham go at it. Could be pretty entertaining. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:55:46 AM EDT
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Got 61 points and dropped a spot. Damnit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Castrol Edge predictions results are updated. Got 61 points and dropped a spot. Damnit. I also got 61 points and climbed 2 spots - threatening to vacate the basement! 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 1:45:17 PM EDT
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If I were Mercedes I'd make a special deal with lotus and give the champions car (if it's decided before the last race) to Maldonado, and see him win the race... Way to humiliate other teams  I'm starting to get a bad feeling that the double-points at Abu Dhabi might end up determining the WDC. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 2:12:25 PM EDT
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I'm starting to get a bad feeling that the double-points at Abu Dhabi might end up determining the WDC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I were Mercedes I'd make a special deal with lotus and give the champions car (if it's decided before the last race) to Maldonado, and see him win the race... Way to humiliate other teams I'm starting to get a bad feeling that the double-points at Abu Dhabi might end up determining the WDC. Yeah... but like I said before, the Constructor's title will be long since decided (When is Mercedes going to mathematically clinch? Austin? Maybe even sooner? And two drivers going balls-out to with the WDC, when the team itself doesn't really care.... that could be epic. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 5:23:27 PM EDT
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Shot a match Sunday morning so I missed the race. Watched last night.
Very enjoyable race. Alonso battling with everyone is probably the most enjoyable aspect of the year. Hamilton, even taking into account his car, drove a hell of a race to 3rd, too bad he bumped button and messed up his wing or we could have seen a great fight between he and Bottas. Williams is really leading the best of the rest. I'd enjoy seeing them fight for 2nd in the championship. The Massa and Magnussen incident really did look to be a racing incident even though it really did suck for both of them...mostly Massa. McLaren already better be working on its 2015 car. Magnussen will be up there with Bottas mighty soon as world champion material. Good job to Nico for putting together a complete weekend. REALLY looking forward to the Hungarian GP. For some reason it's one of my top 5 races. I like the small little track and the racing that takes place. It's also the last race before summer break, and the possibility exists that when break is over the competition can change. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:33:02 PM EDT
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If Hungary is as hot as last year, lots of cars are going to be fucked.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 12:04:44 AM EDT
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Hungary is a nice race, but my absolute fav is still Spa with Monza a close second.
Get rid of the chicanes on Monza, and it will compete with Spa as my fav. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:28:09 AM EDT
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Hungary is a nice race, but my absolute fav is still Spa with Monza a close second. Get rid of the chicanes on Monza, and it will compete with Spa as my fav. You and I are on the same page. Have you seen video of Audi testing the R18 at Monza without the turn 1 chicane? It's incredible. 
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Posted: 7/22/2014 5:23:42 PM EDT
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You and I are on the same page. Have you seen video of Audi testing the R18 at Monza without the turn 1 chicane? It's incredible.  http://youtu.be/CKIc1BcWDlM
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Hungary is a nice race, but my absolute fav is still Spa with Monza a close second. Get rid of the chicanes on Monza, and it will compete with Spa as my fav. You and I are on the same page. Have you seen video of Audi testing the R18 at Monza without the turn 1 chicane? It's incredible. http://youtu.be/CKIc1BcWDlM
Nice! I still mourn the loss of the original Hockenheim course. Pre '02 Spa, Monza, and Hockenheim were the three races that I absoutely looked forward to every year. I loved to focus on speed, not this save fuel bs going on now. What's the over/under on Ferarri making good on it's threat of saving F1? I can't wait to see the "green" rules go away, but I fear (and I'm even a Ferarri fan) that if Ferrari "saved F1," you're going to see the rules tilited heavily in thier favor. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 6:41:15 PM EDT
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Old Hockenheim how we miss thee
I had forgot how the old ostcurve out there in the woods used to be banked a little too. It was one of the best courses ever
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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:04:25 AM EDT
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Old Hockenheim how we miss thee
http://youtu.be/XrBMNU8t7Mc
I had forgot how the old ostcurve out there in the woods used to be banked a little too. It was one of the best courses ever Almost sad to watch that, knowing what the current gen of cars sound like. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:09:17 AM EDT
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Old Hockenheim how we miss thee
http://youtu.be/XrBMNU8t7Mc
I had forgot how the old ostcurve out there in the woods used to be banked a little too. It was one of the best courses ever Almost sad to watch that, knowing what the current gen of cars sound like. I miss seeing Marlboro on racecars
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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:48:02 AM EDT
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I do understand some of the reasons for modifying the tracks to make them slower and safer. I watched Le Mans, Grand Prix and Rush in the last two days. Its a crime what they've done to F1. The whole F1 has to be green bullshit just needs to die.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 10:59:09 PM EDT
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FP1 at 4:00am, FP2 at 8:00am.
Fantasy Picks must be submitted by 7:55am EST on Saturday 7/26. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:23:13 AM EDT
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Old Hockenheim how we miss thee
http://youtu.be/XrBMNU8t7Mc
I had forgot how the old ostcurve out there in the woods used to be banked a little too. It was one of the best courses ever That's a cool track layout. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:58:09 AM EDT
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FP1 starting, Bruno Senna in the commentary box with Sky.
If you haven't heard him give commentary you're really missing out. It's great. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 8:16:57 AM EDT
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That's a cool track layout. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Old Hockenheim how we miss thee
http://youtu.be/XrBMNU8t7Mc
I had forgot how the old ostcurve out there in the woods used to be banked a little too. It was one of the best courses ever That's a cool track layout. The deep shadows over the track through the forest were Uber-Cool. Almost like a tunnel. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 8:18:40 AM EDT
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Good news is that Mexico is back on the schedule.
Bad news is that they're reworking Peraltada to give it a slower lap time. 
Great Highlights from 1990 Mexican GP. A mighty track back then.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:19:05 PM EDT
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From BBC:
TEAM RADIO Mercedes' Lewis Hamilton: "Is there something wrong with my front brakes?" Hamilton had a problem with his brakes during qualifying at Hockenheim which resulted in a heavy contact with the barriers. I'm now convinced that Hamilton's edge over Rosberg during his 4 race win streak had less to do with his skill as a driver and more to do with him running dodgy brakes. Motorsport Mag German GP Report From the moment a few minutes into qualifying when Hamilton’s right-front Brembo brake disc exploded as he braked from 140mph into the Sachskurve, this was always going to be Rosberg’s weekend. “I didn’t quite know what had happened to the other car,” [Rosberg] reported, “but I knew it didn’t affect me because I was on different brakes.” Hamilton changing from Carbone Industrie to Brembo front discs (matching the Brembos both he and Rosberg used on the rears) on Saturday morning turned out to be the weekend’s crucial decision. “You can either have better initial bite, but some fade or don’t give quite as good a pedal feel, but better fade resistance,” explained Lewis.
Through the Friday practices, when they were both on the Carbone fronts, he found he was constantly losing time to Rosberg under braking for turn two. The Brembo fronts, he reckoned, would give him the tools to turn that around, even if it did mean a bit more fade after continued hard use. The implication was he was trying to ensure he out-qualified Rosberg, and that way he’d be able to look after the fade resistance in the race. Instead the disc broke in three parts, through a suspected manufacturing fault. So you might say it was just bad luck that Hamilton was never in a position to compete with Rosberg on this weekend, but it was Rosberg’s consistently excellent pace on Friday that triggered a Hamilton decision that should not have had such serious implications – but did. It even seems like this braking issue is a factor in Hamilton's consistently poor pit stops. Austrian GP Report Having not found a chink in Bottas’s defences, Hamilton was brought in first by Mercedes in order to undercut ahead of the Williams – on lap 39. There was nothing sinister about this from Rosberg’s perspective; he was comfortably far enough clear to be able to come in a lap later and still be ahead, and so it proved. Nico’s stop was again substantially quicker than Hamilton’s though – by a full second this time. “I need to look at my positioning at those stops,” said Lewis after the race. “It may just have been that.” Stopping short or long of the marks can easily cost valuable chunks of time. I could easily see brake fade lead to missing the marks on a pit stop. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:32:41 PM EDT
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Interesting comment from BBC Live Feed:
BBC Sport’s chief F1 writer Andrew Benson:
"Lotus' Romain Grosjean, a former team-mate of both Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen, shed some light on why the Finn has been struggling this season. 'I know what he doesn't like and this year's cars don't really suit him very well,' Grosjean said. 'He needs a good front end and those tyres don't really give you that feeling. It's hard to explain but it can change a little bit your confidence.' "And having Alonso as your team-mate is never easy, Grosjean made clear. 'They are both very strong. When I was with Fernando [at Renault in 2009], the car was not the best and he always gets on top of what he has - 100% of the car he has even though he has to drive three different styles in a lap, which is a very good point [of his]. Kimi was quick, consistent, good at building his weekend. They were different and I was at a different point of my career with each. To be fair, at the beginning of the year I didn't know what was going to be the best.'" |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:36:15 PM EDT
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Looks like this weekend isn't going to suit the Williams so much - Ferrari, RBR and even McLaren look faster.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:43:30 PM EDT
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From BBC: I'm now convinced that Hamilton's edge over Rosberg during his 4 race win streak had less to do with his skill as a driver and more to do with him running dodgy brakes. Motorsport Mag German GP Report It even seems like this braking issue is a factor in Hamilton's consistently poor pit stops. Austrian GP Report I could easily see brake fade lead to missing the marks on a pit stop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
From BBC: TEAM RADIO Mercedes' Lewis Hamilton: "Is there something wrong with my front brakes?" Hamilton had a problem with his brakes during qualifying at Hockenheim which resulted in a heavy contact with the barriers. I'm now convinced that Hamilton's edge over Rosberg during his 4 race win streak had less to do with his skill as a driver and more to do with him running dodgy brakes. Motorsport Mag German GP Report From the moment a few minutes into qualifying when Hamilton’s right-front Brembo brake disc exploded as he braked from 140mph into the Sachskurve, this was always going to be Rosberg’s weekend. “I didn’t quite know what had happened to the other car,” [Rosberg] reported, “but I knew it didn’t affect me because I was on different brakes.” Hamilton changing from Carbone Industrie to Brembo front discs (matching the Brembos both he and Rosberg used on the rears) on Saturday morning turned out to be the weekend’s crucial decision. “You can either have better initial bite, but some fade or don’t give quite as good a pedal feel, but better fade resistance,” explained Lewis.
Through the Friday practices, when they were both on the Carbone fronts, he found he was constantly losing time to Rosberg under braking for turn two. The Brembo fronts, he reckoned, would give him the tools to turn that around, even if it did mean a bit more fade after continued hard use. The implication was he was trying to ensure he out-qualified Rosberg, and that way he’d be able to look after the fade resistance in the race. Instead the disc broke in three parts, through a suspected manufacturing fault. So you might say it was just bad luck that Hamilton was never in a position to compete with Rosberg on this weekend, but it was Rosberg’s consistently excellent pace on Friday that triggered a Hamilton decision that should not have had such serious implications – but did. It even seems like this braking issue is a factor in Hamilton's consistently poor pit stops. Austrian GP Report Having not found a chink in Bottas’s defences, Hamilton was brought in first by Mercedes in order to undercut ahead of the Williams – on lap 39. There was nothing sinister about this from Rosberg’s perspective; he was comfortably far enough clear to be able to come in a lap later and still be ahead, and so it proved. Nico’s stop was again substantially quicker than Hamilton’s though – by a full second this time. “I need to look at my positioning at those stops,” said Lewis after the race. “It may just have been that.” Stopping short or long of the marks can easily cost valuable chunks of time. I could easily see brake fade lead to missing the marks on a pit stop. I wouldn't call it dodgy like he was taking a risk putting them on. Drivers have always had their own selection of brakes, or do at big teams. I remember that Button ran something special compared to Hamilton at McLaren. Of course he had issues adjusting to a different brake feel when he's used to the feel of Brembos. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:24:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good news is that Mexico is back on the schedule. Bad news is that they're reworking Peraltada to give it a slower lap time. Great Highlights from 1990 Mexican GP. A mighty track back then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqaXktfn90M |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:54:59 PM EDT
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Watching practice on DVR. One promo said "Beauty, Brawn, Budapest, The heartbeat of central Europe, humping heat, adrenalin and FISTS". Hopefully the NASCAR guys don't see that one, we'll never hear the end of it.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:05:40 AM EDT
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Hamilton just blew up.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:07:02 AM EDT
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Hamilton just blew up. Damn, two weeks in a row. Excellent!!! |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:07:12 AM EDT
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Hamilton just blew up. Car is burning.... |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:07:51 AM EDT
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shit, there goes my pole pick......
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:08:09 AM EDT
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Hamilton just blew up. I can't wait to hear the reason. |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:12:42 AM EDT
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Ha the good ol days where a pilot would just walk to the pit and take the 2nd car....
I loved the 1 hour 12 laps qual format |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:19:27 AM EDT
[#31]
kimi out!!
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:19:38 AM EDT
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Raikonnen and Ferrari are RI DU CU LOUS
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:19:46 AM EDT
[#33]
Brilliant Ferrari strategy again!!!! Fucking morons.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:20:23 AM EDT
[#34]
Imbeciles
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:23:48 AM EDT
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Kimi was 8 tenths out of the drop zone.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:25:35 AM EDT
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That's insane. Yeah, but they knew others would use softer tires for their second run....... |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:36:09 AM EDT
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Kimi was 8 tenths out of the drop zone.
That's insane. Yeah, but they knew others would use softer tires for their second run....... What idiots. |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:36:43 AM EDT
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According to BBC, Hamilton was undone by a fuel leak.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:47:51 AM EDT
[#39]
Oooh rain for Q3
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:50:51 AM EDT
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Wow, Rosberg didn't make a corner then Magnussen slides into the wall at the same spot seconds later. Session red flagged |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 9:09:54 AM EDT
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Bottas did really well to split the RBRs.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 9:10:05 AM EDT
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Great job from Vettel.
On a track where the engine count less, the red bulls are there Good job Alonso too, beating one Williams with this pos car he has. P5 is better than p4 |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 10:39:28 AM EDT
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Hamilton just blew up. Damn, two weeks in a row. Excellent!!! Kinda fucked up... I mean kicking the man while he's down is pretty petty, IMO... |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:15:17 PM EDT
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Hamilton just blew up. Damn, two weeks in a row. Excellent!!! Kinda fucked up... I mean kicking the man while he's down is pretty petty, IMO... Meh. Seems like karma to me, considering how he fucked Alonso at the same track when they were team mates. And the 'bad luck' meme is getting a bit stale. Rosberg seems to be getting along pretty well. |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:46:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kimi is great when the car is to his liking but gets completely unmotivated and phones it in as soon as he has to fight anything. Seriously, beat by Mags even after he was sent all the way to the back after the First Lap? Not the end of the world though, since it appears that Finland's national motorsports honor is safe with Bottas (and partially Rosberg). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bottas is the real deal - four outstanding drives in a row. And Kimi is dead to me after this embarrassment. He came back to Ferrari hoping for a good run but the car is garbage, now he's just riving around until they buy him out of his contract. Kimi is great when the car is to his liking but gets completely unmotivated and phones it in as soon as he has to fight anything. Seriously, beat by Mags even after he was sent all the way to the back after the First Lap? Not the end of the world though, since it appears that Finland's national motorsports honor is safe with Bottas (and partially Rosberg). Kimi is so unmotivated he skipped qualifying.  |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:55:29 PM EDT
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Bottas is the real deal - four outstanding drives in a row. And Kimi is dead to me after this embarrassment. He came back to Ferrari hoping for a good run but the car is garbage, now he's just riving around until they buy him out of his contract.
Kimi is great when the car is to his liking but gets completely unmotivated and phones it in as soon as he has to fight anything. Seriously, beat by Mags even after he was sent all the way to the back after the First Lap?
Not the end of the world though, since it appears that Finland's national motorsports honor is safe with Bottas (and partially Rosberg). Kimi is so unmotivated he skipped qualifying.
Probably wanted to get to the Budapest Red Light District before the best talent was taken. |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:28:03 PM EDT
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Hamilton is going to crash into someone tomorrow......who will it be? I'm guessing either Kimi, Esteban G, or Sutil.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:49:38 PM EDT
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What a session, just watched.
What are the chances for rain tomorrow? |
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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:56:42 PM EDT
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