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Link Posted: 6/22/2014 9:27:13 AM EDT
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Perez running a strong race today.  Really like him as a racer.  
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 9:29:06 AM EDT
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ho lee fuk, looks like I picked the top 4.....too bad kimi was way down there.
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 9:32:15 AM EDT
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Outstanding calculating drive from Nico.
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 9:35:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Bo77as with a podium!
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 9:38:40 AM EDT
[#5]
Trophies made with wood. Awesome.
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 9:45:24 AM EDT
[#6]
Nice race. Ive always enjoyed watching Nico, so glad to see him in a good car.

Eta: Id like to see him give it to Schu

Eta again: Can you imagine what Schu is feeling waking up to find out Merc is dominating, and especially his "apprentice"? Id be willing to bet he is beyond proud.
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 10:46:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Great race today....would have loved to see 2 Williams drivers on the podium.  Still a great job!
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 2:13:33 PM EDT
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Pretty decent race.  

Definitely cemented my status as a Ricciardo fan.  He make a ballsy-as-hell move on Hulkenburg  on the last lap just to get two extra points for the team.  That's some serious racecar-driver shit.  
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 3:24:54 PM EDT
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Kuddos to Alonso... The first of the non Mercedes powered driver
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 4:19:02 PM EDT
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Pretty decent race, although I could have pretty much predicted the finish after qualy yesterday.  Too bad my fantasy predictions won't reflect it, it was my worse prediction all year, only 17 points
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 4:40:27 PM EDT
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Nice effort from Hamilton. Nothing like making u 5 places before the first turn. Rosberg seems to be really getting things together. He better hope he's got more than a 50 point lead going into the last race.



Rookies are doing pretty good this year.
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 7:53:40 PM EDT
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I'm watching GP2 and those sound like real race cars.

Interesting how I haven't seen a lap time yet, just separation times.


Hmmmmmmm
Link Posted: 6/22/2014 8:13:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/22/2014 9:20:50 PM EDT
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[f]Ferrari quitting would be the end of the series as we know it, next time you're watching a race, pay attention to how much red you see in the stands, how many prancing horse flags.. The calendar would be half the size that it is within a year or two, there just would not be the fan base.  

That's not even counting the amount of money that Ferrari has in the sport, they're just not replaceable.[/b]

To the qualy though... Hats off to Felipe, maybe this is the end of his six year slump?  I also am really glad this track is back, it's much better than any of the Tilke designed tracks, though I'm sad India pulled out, I actually liked that track.  

What I found REALLY interesting was what Helmut Marco had to say in the interview on Sky during the build-up.. A possible Red Bull engine, YES PLEASE!  
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Vettel is toast.

Who wanna bet he ends up in Ferrari soon or later ??? Like next year ?  


Next year when Ferrari quits F-1 like their head of racing has said in public?

http://autospies.com/news/Ferrari-Leaving-Formula-One-For-Lemans-Endurance-Racing-81739/  


It better not happened for F1...  They know it.. Both Ferrari and the FIA ...  


[f]Ferrari quitting would be the end of the series as we know it, next time you're watching a race, pay attention to how much red you see in the stands, how many prancing horse flags.. The calendar would be half the size that it is within a year or two, there just would not be the fan base.  

That's not even counting the amount of money that Ferrari has in the sport, they're just not replaceable.[/b]

To the qualy though... Hats off to Felipe, maybe this is the end of his six year slump?  I also am really glad this track is back, it's much better than any of the Tilke designed tracks, though I'm sad India pulled out, I actually liked that track.  

What I found REALLY interesting was what Helmut Marco had to say in the interview on Sky during the build-up.. A possible Red Bull engine, YES PLEASE!  


I find the article interesting because of the comments on the current and near term future of F-1.  "People want to see exciting racing, not an efficiency contest."  Ferrari is particularly upset over the rules that do not allow engine development during the season.  Which means all Ferrari and Renault engine users are screwed for this season with no hope of improvement until next season.

So in response F-1 decides to put spark blocks on the cars and to look at methods to make the cars louder so it will be more exciting for the fans.  How long before F-1 mandates the use of whistle tips and sirens like were used on the Stukka to make the cars "louder and more exciting?"

Straws.  Grasping.  At.  Desperately.
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 8:54:37 AM EDT
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Ferrari got screwed the day they agreed on limiting on track testing........ Supposedly for budget reasons....

Since then, teams have been spending hundred of millions of $ in wind galleries and simulators....


Great........
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 9:01:57 AM EDT
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Oh snap..








Btw.. 7 Mercedes power units in the first 10 place.... Alonso and Kimi with Ferrari 5th and 10th and ricciardo with Renault 8th
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 9:04:46 AM EDT
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Can't see the pic, but are you referring to the pic where the Mercedes star is on the Red Bull's nose at the Red Bull ring?
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 9:07:58 AM EDT
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Can't see the pic, but are you referring to the pic where the Mercedes star is on the Red Bull's nose at the Red Bull ring?
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Can't see the pic, but are you referring to the pic where the Mercedes star is on the Red Bull's nose at the Red Bull ring?


Fixed..

Link Posted: 6/23/2014 9:08:40 AM EDT
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Ahh, that's a good one too.
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 9:25:56 AM EDT
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Nice race. Ive always enjoyed watching Nico, so glad to see him in a good car.

Eta: Id like to see him give it to Schu

Eta again: Can you imagine what Schu is feeling waking up to find out Merc is dominating, and especially his "apprentice"? Id be willing to bet he is beyond proud.
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I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but I think you're overestimating what they meant when they said he was out of a coma.  I seriously doubt he has any understanding of what is going on at the moment.
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 2:45:54 PM EDT
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Just wanted to say good work. You just jumped 7 places and are now leading the Fantasy league by 41 points!
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 3:44:37 PM EDT
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Just wanted to say good work. You just jumped 7 places and are now leading the Fantasy league by 41 points!
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ho lee fuk, looks like I picked the top 4.....too bad kimi was way down there.


Just wanted to say good work. You just jumped 7 places and are now leading the Fantasy league by 41 points!



Nice job.  Those bonus points really kick in when you hit them.
Link Posted: 6/24/2014 8:46:17 PM EDT
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I find the article interesting because of the comments on the current and near term future of F-1.  "People want to see exciting racing, not an efficiency contest."  Ferrari is particularly upset over the rules that do not allow engine development during the season.  Which means all Ferrari and Renault engine users are screwed for this season with no hope of improvement until next season.





So in response F-1 decides to put spark blocks on the cars and to look at methods to make the cars louder so it will be more exciting for the fans.  How long before F-1 mandates the use of whistle tips and sirens like were used on the Stukka to make the cars "louder and more exciting?"





Straws.  Grasping.  At.  Desperately.
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Vettel is toast.





Who wanna bet he ends up in Ferrari soon or later ??? Like next year ?  






Next year when Ferrari quits F-1 like their head of racing has said in public?





http://autospies.com/news/Ferrari-Leaving-Formula-One-For-Lemans-Endurance-Racing-81739/  






It better not happened for F1...  They know it.. Both Ferrari and the FIA ...  






[f]Ferrari quitting would be the end of the series as we know it, next time you're watching a race, pay attention to how much red you see in the stands, how many prancing horse flags.. The calendar would be half the size that it is within a year or two, there just would not be the fan base.  





That's not even counting the amount of money that Ferrari has in the sport, they're just not replaceable.





To the qualy though... Hats off to Felipe, maybe this is the end of his six year slump?  I also am really glad this track is back, it's much better than any of the Tilke designed tracks, though I'm sad India pulled out, I actually liked that track.  





What I found REALLY interesting was what Helmut Marco had to say in the interview on Sky during the build-up.. A possible Red Bull engine, YES PLEASE!  






I find the article interesting because of the comments on the current and near term future of F-1.  "People want to see exciting racing, not an efficiency contest."  Ferrari is particularly upset over the rules that do not allow engine development during the season.  Which means all Ferrari and Renault engine users are screwed for this season with no hope of improvement until next season.





So in response F-1 decides to put spark blocks on the cars and to look at methods to make the cars louder so it will be more exciting for the fans.  How long before F-1 mandates the use of whistle tips and sirens like were used on the Stukka to make the cars "louder and more exciting?"





Straws.  Grasping.  At.  Desperately.



I just don't understand why they would agree to a technology freeze on new, untested technology.. it doesn't make any damn sense, and it has pretty much ruined the season.  





 
Link Posted: 6/26/2014 1:58:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2014 2:03:54 PM EDT
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lol wut?   "  New regulations to ensure that the brake discs rotate at the same speed as the wheels."





Link Posted: 6/26/2014 2:04:18 PM EDT
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FIA releases 2015 updates and regulations with some 2016 mixed in.



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Link Posted: 6/26/2014 2:10:52 PM EDT
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Yeah... one of you race engineer smart-guy types is gonna need to explain this to us normal people....
Link Posted: 6/26/2014 2:15:03 PM EDT
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Yeah... one of you race engineer smart-guy types is gonna need to explain this to us normal people....
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lol wut?   "  New regulations to ensure that the brake discs rotate at the same speed as the wheels."




Yeah... one of you race engineer smart-guy types is gonna need to explain this to us normal people....

do the brakes only charge the battery under braking?

almost sounds like someone had geared the disc so that it spun faster to charged up the battery faster.
Link Posted: 6/26/2014 2:45:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2014 2:52:04 PM EDT
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I cant believe the testing cuts. The competition is abysmal this year...lets make it even worse by taking away testing or time for improvements.
Link Posted: 6/26/2014 3:11:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2014 3:28:14 PM EDT
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"There will be three pre-season tests of four days each in Europe in 2015 (currently teams are able to test outside Europe). This will be reduced to two tests of four days in 2016."
Why reduce testing? Why not allow as much testing as the teams want, where ever they want?

"The current restrictions to the parc fermé will now apply from the start of P3 instead of the start of qualifying."
What's the point of P3 if you can't change anything to the car?

"The ban on tyre blankets will be rescinded for 2015. This will be re-discussed if and when the wheel and tyre diameter increases in the future.
Why?

"Safety Car restarts will now be a standing start from the grid. Standing starts will not be carried out if the Safety Car is used within two laps of the start (or restart) of a race or if there are less than five laps of the race remaining."
That seems pretty unfair to the leader, not only does the safety car negate any time he had to his advantage, but now he has to defend his position from a standing start? What's the point of having the safety car start a race in the rain if they're just going to start from a stand still again anyway?

Link Posted: 6/26/2014 3:33:17 PM EDT
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"Safety Car restarts will now be a standing start from the grid. Standing starts will not be carried out if the Safety Car is used within two laps of the start (or restart) of a race or if there are less than five laps of the race remaining."

That seems pretty unfair to the leader, not only does the safety car negate any time he had to his advantage, but now he has to defend his position from a standing start? What's the point of having the safety car start a race in the rain if they're just going to start from a stand still again anyway?



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the standing start reeks of manufactured excitement.  a double file rolling restart makes much more sense in this instance.



 
Link Posted: 6/26/2014 6:51:03 PM EDT
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the standing start reeks of manufactured excitement.  a double file rolling restart makes much more sense in this instance.
 
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"Safety Car restarts will now be a standing start from the grid. Standing starts will not be carried out if the Safety Car is used within two laps of the start (or restart) of a race or if there are less than five laps of the race remaining."
That seems pretty unfair to the leader, not only does the safety car negate any time he had to his advantage, but now he has to defend his position from a standing start? What's the point of having the safety car start a race in the rain if they're just going to start from a stand still again anyway?

the standing start reeks of manufactured excitement.  a double file rolling restart makes much more sense in this instance.
 


I will admit that this one kinda interests me because it could really cause some mayhem, but overall is more artificial than DRS.

The testing restrictions are so dumb.
Link Posted: 6/26/2014 7:00:03 PM EDT
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That's fucking stupid.... And Montezemolo probably agreed.....  
Link Posted: 6/27/2014 6:42:46 AM EDT
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Awesome articles--that transmission is wicked.
Link Posted: 6/27/2014 7:02:18 AM EDT
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NASCAR looks more attractive based on the 2016 rules.
Link Posted: 6/27/2014 5:13:59 PM EDT
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You shut your whore mouth.





Honestly though, I would actually consider watching NASCAR if they had more road courses... I actually like the Samona and Watkins Glen races.
 
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You shut your whore mouth.



Honestly though, I would actually consider watching NASCAR if they had more road courses... I actually like the Samona Sonoma and Watkins Glen races.

 
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You shut your whore mouth.



Honestly though, I would actually consider watching NASCAR if they had more road courses... I actually like the Samona Sonoma and Watkins Glen races.

 






This is the layout NASCAR runs at Sears Point. Turn 4 is like jumping off a cliff and you crest a hill between the exit of turn 5 and immediately enter turn 6, after the crest of the hill, and the track drops hard downhill to the left. I would be much more impressed if they ran the full road course. AFM ran races on Saturday the first weekend NASCAR was there. There was a fence out in the field at turn 6. The Legends pit area didn't exist then. They had to take down the fence after the first couple of NASCAR drivers couldn't slow down enough to make the turn 7 hairpin. The run up the hill to the turn 2 and so on complex wasn't run that first year. They went straight down the drag strip from 11 and took the dog leg into 7. Apparently the concept of slowing down, hard, for a corner was pretty foreign to them. They managed to break the wall in 11 that separates the track from the pit lane.



 
Link Posted: 6/27/2014 6:32:51 PM EDT
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You shut your whore mouth.

Honestly though, I would actually consider watching NASCAR if they had more road courses... I actually like the Samona and Watkins Glen races.
 
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NASCAR looks more attractive based on the 2016 rules.

You shut your whore mouth.

Honestly though, I would actually consider watching NASCAR if they had more road courses... I actually like the Samona and Watkins Glen races.
 

Me too, every time I watch the road course races the announcers talk about how popular they are. "THEN WHY DON'T YOU HAVE MORE!?!?"

It would be a cool series if they mixed in more road courses, maybe Daytona and Kansas road course, Circuit of the Americas, Leguna Seca, Sebring etc. I would love to watch that.


I was thinking earlier what F1 really needs with their new rules. Have you ever been to those theme parks where you can pay to shoot water cannons at people on certain rides? How about water cannons set up on the track that you could pay to shoot at your least favorite driver. Then the money could be distributed to the bottom 3 teams to make things more competitive.

I hope noone from the FIA reads this or they might seriously consider it.
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Me too, every time I watch the road course races the announcers talk about how popular they are. "THEN WHY DON'T YOU HAVE MORE!?!?"
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You need to watch Aussie V8 supercars.

Seriously, if I could start a racing series right now, it'd be American built V8's or turbo 6's with a stock frame and stock engine block (and some other details) and race a majority road courses. Mustangs, Cameros, whatever dodge makes, Hyundai coupes...I think you get the point.
Link Posted: 6/27/2014 10:06:51 PM EDT
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You need to watch Aussie V8 supercars.

Seriously, if I could start a racing series right now, it'd be American built V8's or turbo 6's with a stock frame and stock engine block (and some other details) and race a majority road courses. Mustangs, Cameros, whatever dodge makes, Hyundai coupes...I think you get the point.
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Me too, every time I watch the road course races the announcers talk about how popular they are. "THEN WHY DON'T YOU HAVE MORE!?!?"


You need to watch Aussie V8 supercars.

Seriously, if I could start a racing series right now, it'd be American built V8's or turbo 6's with a stock frame and stock engine block (and some other details) and race a majority road courses. Mustangs, Cameros, whatever dodge makes, Hyundai coupes...I think you get the point.

The only thing I've seen with the V8 supercars is the Bathurst 1000.

If I were to start a racing series I'd love to see LM GTE cars in 1-2 hr sprint races. That is my favorite racing, because they are based on real cars and have some realistic features that make it relatable to your road car. But every time you watch Le Mans or USCC they always show the prototypes. I enjoy the prototypes too, but the GT cars deserve their own airtime. It would be nice if USCC has 2 channels, one focused on P cars and one on GT.
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The only thing I've seen with the V8 supercars is the Bathurst 1000.

If I were to start a racing series I'd love to see LM GTE cars in 1-2 hr sprint races. That is my favorite racing, because they are based on real cars and have some realistic features that make it relatable to your road car. But every time you watch Le Mans or USCC they always show the prototypes. I enjoy the prototypes too, but the GT cars deserve their own airtime. It would be nice if USCC has 2 channels, one focused on P cars and one on GT.
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Me too, every time I watch the road course races the announcers talk about how popular they are. "THEN WHY DON'T YOU HAVE MORE!?!?"


You need to watch Aussie V8 supercars.

Seriously, if I could start a racing series right now, it'd be American built V8's or turbo 6's with a stock frame and stock engine block (and some other details) and race a majority road courses. Mustangs, Cameros, whatever dodge makes, Hyundai coupes...I think you get the point.

The only thing I've seen with the V8 supercars is the Bathurst 1000.

If I were to start a racing series I'd love to see LM GTE cars in 1-2 hr sprint races. That is my favorite racing, because they are based on real cars and have some realistic features that make it relatable to your road car. But every time you watch Le Mans or USCC they always show the prototypes. I enjoy the prototypes too, but the GT cars deserve their own airtime. It would be nice if USCC has 2 channels, one focused on P cars and one on GT.


What you are describing is Pirelli World Challenge and it is the best racing I've ever seen live. They sound great, they're fast, and they sound great.

Did I mention how they sound?

Just click through the classes and check out the cars.
Link Posted: 6/27/2014 11:42:15 PM EDT
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Crumbs. Rumour mill in full flow over Caterham today. Usually impeccable source reckons it's about to be bought by a very familiar name.

Will Buxton seems to have the scent of a possible sale. In a reply he added:

Id say not universally popular.
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All I'll say is that, if true, I don't imagine they'll be getting their hands on Mercedes engines anytime soon.
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Ross Brawn back in the ring? Will Honda run a back-up team?
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What you are describing is Pirelli World Challenge and it is the best racing I've ever seen live. They sound great, they're fast, and they sound great.

Did I mention how they sound?

Just click through the classes and check out the cars.
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Me too, every time I watch the road course races the announcers talk about how popular they are. "THEN WHY DON'T YOU HAVE MORE!?!?"


You need to watch Aussie V8 supercars.

Seriously, if I could start a racing series right now, it'd be American built V8's or turbo 6's with a stock frame and stock engine block (and some other details) and race a majority road courses. Mustangs, Cameros, whatever dodge makes, Hyundai coupes...I think you get the point.

The only thing I've seen with the V8 supercars is the Bathurst 1000.

If I were to start a racing series I'd love to see LM GTE cars in 1-2 hr sprint races. That is my favorite racing, because they are based on real cars and have some realistic features that make it relatable to your road car. But every time you watch Le Mans or USCC they always show the prototypes. I enjoy the prototypes too, but the GT cars deserve their own airtime. It would be nice if USCC has 2 channels, one focused on P cars and one on GT.


What you are describing is Pirelli World Challenge and it is the best racing I've ever seen live. They sound great, they're fast, and they sound great.

Did I mention how they sound?

Just click through the classes and check out the cars.


Looks like all private teams, I'd like to see the LM teams in a series like that. I'll have to check it out at St Pete next year.

It looks like a good place to start an amateur team? Think AR15.com wants to finance a new team?
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Crumbs. Rumour mill in full flow over Caterham today. Usually impeccable source reckons it's about to be bought by a very familiar name.

Will Buxton seems to have the scent of a possible sale. In a reply he added:



EDIT: Another Buxton hint:



Ross Brawn back in the ring? Will Honda run a back-up team?
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Crumbs. Rumour mill in full flow over Caterham today. Usually impeccable source reckons it's about to be bought by a very familiar name.

Will Buxton seems to have the scent of a possible sale. In a reply he added:

Id say not universally popular.


EDIT: Another Buxton hint:

All I'll say is that, if true, I don't imagine they'll be getting their hands on Mercedes engines anytime soon.


Ross Brawn back in the ring? Will Honda run a back-up team?

My first thought was Briatore. But that's a helluva stretch.
Link Posted: 6/28/2014 12:45:59 AM EDT
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How many F1 circuits can you ID from satellite photos?

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Tom007/street_circuits_are_hard_to_identify




Be honest, I got 14/19. I missed Korea, Brazil, India, Hungary and somehow Barcelona. Spain looked so familiar but I just couldn't think of it.
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Be honest, I got 14/19. I missed Korea, Brazil, India, Hungary and somehow Barcelona. Spain looked so familiar but I just couldn't think of it.
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19/19 with 16 seconds left. I kept thinking it was 2014 then I finally realized it was labeled 2013 so I went back and was able to fill them in.
Link Posted: 6/28/2014 4:03:26 PM EDT
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Just noticed CBS sports airs DTM.
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