I'm not saying I want SHTF! I'm more curious about what is gonna set it off? What do you think will happen? Where will the sides be drawn? Will there be a foreign militant forces on US soil? If so who? I know it's alot of questions but basically I am asking for everyones SHTF hypothetical senerios?
July 22nd.
Debt bomb explodes, interest rates skyrocket, inflation goes ballistic, welfare handouts cease due to the inability to service the debt and the animals go crazy because they believe they are owed a certain lifestyle by the productive members of society.
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Debt bomb explodes, interest rates skyrocket, inflation goes ballistic, welfare handouts cease due to the inability to service the debt and the animals go crazy because they believe they are owed a certain lifestyle by the productive members of society.
Thart tis boiyz, do wit it wacha wish....
The monkey will stay in the cage as long as you are feeding him, but you stop feeding him and hes getting out, or will die trying...
So when you say "debt bomb" do you mean it in the sence that we have reached out limits, the bubble pops, then is on? I like it.
Consumer credit bubble pops would hurt things. We have had 3 years in a row of significant crop damage in the midwest. I think if we had a particularly bad year for rain (either to much/or to little), combined with the consumer credit bubble, and significant world event (war, terrorist attack, global natural disaster) things could go down hill fast.
I have it on good Authority that SHTF will be March 11!
Originally Posted By BCV:
I have it on good Authority that SHTF will be March 11!
Mar 11?
Why March 11th?
Originally Posted By BCV:
I have it on good Authority that SHTF will be March 11!
You's trollin'.
No one knows. All you can do is prepare at a pace you can sustain, and do your best to ride it out.
You're going to be caught up in it regardless. How you ride the storm or if you keep your head above water is the endgame.
i think some type of MAJOR SHTF EVENT will take place in the second half of the year..i am putting the finishing touches on my preps by Late June.....
austerity
Originally Posted By PATRIOT590A1:
i think some type of MAJOR SHTF EVENT will take place in the second half of the year..i am putting the finishing touches on my preps by Late June.....
Im curious what makes you think second half of the year? Some kind of ploy by obama to help him get reelected?
Seems that CA government sets the pace for the rest of the country as far as laws and rules and policies and crap. When SHTF there, let us know so we can have a year or two to get ready before it hits us.... he he he.
Seriously though, there could be a number of things that cause it. It could be the U.S. Dollar dropping out and no longer being the basis for currency values, threat of "WMD's" and ensuing martial law to which a lot of patriots will not stand for, thus causing mass mayhem. etc. etc. etc. All are "IF" things and could be something major or minor. Like another team member said.... do the best preparing for how you think you would like to live in a "survival" setting and ride the wave and take it from there. You can only do so much without driving yourself crazy thinking about it and the "prepping".
Or we could consider the current issue blooming into a crisis. Fuel!
If world events would somehow send the price of oil way up; it's currently $110 barrel equaling about $3.65; say oil went to $200 barrel and fuel to north of $5.50; our nation would be in deep trouble.
In the short term the cost of delivering the food to the store would way up, later the cost of producing the food would go way up. The cost of everything would go way up; getting to work, getting to the Doctor, getting medical supplies, getting whatever you get at Target and Walmart.
People stop spending.
People loose their jobs.
Government and personal debt continue to balloon.
Eventually the cradle to grave society we've allowed to be created collapses.
If you're not willing and determine enough to take care of yourself, the looters and thugs get you.
At least that's what I see as the most likely scenario.
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Originally Posted By evolution88:
Or we could consider the current issue blooming into a crisis. Fuel!
If world events would somehow send the price of oil way up; it's currently $110 barrel equaling about $3.65; say oil went to $200 barrel and fuel to north of $5.50; our nation would be in deep trouble.
In the short term the cost of delivering the food to the store would way up, later the cost of producing the food would go way up. The cost of everything would go way up; getting to work, getting to the Doctor, getting medical supplies, getting whatever you get at Target and Walmart.
People stop spending.
People loose their jobs.
Government and personal debt continue to balloon.
Eventually the cradle to grave society we've allowed to be created collapses.
If you're not willing and determine enough to take care of yourself, the looters and thugs get you.
At least that's what I see as the most likely scenario.
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Well said. That is indeed I think the most likely scenario!!
Originally Posted By SnakeDoctor_IV:
Originally Posted By evolution88:
Or we could consider the current issue blooming into a crisis. Fuel!
If world events would somehow send the price of oil way up; it's currently $110 barrel equaling about $3.65; say oil went to $200 barrel and fuel to north of $5.50; our nation would be in deep trouble.
In the short term the cost of delivering the food to the store would way up, later the cost of producing the food would go way up. The cost of everything would go way up; getting to work, getting to the Doctor, getting medical supplies, getting whatever you get at Target and Walmart.
People stop spending.
People loose their jobs.
Government and personal debt continue to balloon.
Eventually the cradle to grave society we've allowed to be created collapses.
If you're not willing and determine enough to take care of yourself, the looters and thugs get you.
At least that's what I see as the most likely scenario.
...
Well said. That is indeed I think the most likely scenario!!
Indeed.
Oh, wait. Obama is POTUS. He'll take care of us all. :: rolls eyes ::
my answer is:
Hopefully tomorrow, so the real americans can start to pick up the pieces and get this place back into order, because right now, no one wants to hear a conservative voice. And most of them will be surprised when they actually have to work to eat and cloth themselves. you'll see.
When is SHTF?
<The what'll ya have what'll ya have what'll ya have Guy from The Varsity PBS special on Hotdogs in America> "Erry day. Erry day." </The what'll ya have what'll ya have what'll ya have Guy from The Varsity PBS special on Hotdogs in America>
Originally Posted By evolution88:
Or we could consider the current issue blooming into a crisis. Fuel!
If world events would somehow send the price of oil way up; it's currently $110 barrel equaling about $3.65; say oil went to $200 barrel and fuel to north of $5.50; our nation would be in deep trouble.
In the short term the cost of delivering the food to the store would way up, later the cost of producing the food would go way up. The cost of everything would go way up; getting to work, getting to the Doctor, getting medical supplies, getting whatever you get at Target and Walmart.
People stop spending.
People loose their jobs.
Government and personal debt continue to balloon.
Eventually the cradle to grave society we've allowed to be created collapses.
If you're not willing and determine enough to take care of yourself, the looters and thugs get you.
At least that's what I see as the most likely scenario.
...
once the fuel goes up the privately owned truckers will have a strike and some major trucking companies will go bankrupt causing a shortage on food, water, and necessities. once this happens people will be in a panic and that's when you get a lot of people to act stupid
When shtf will you and your nieghbors ally and protect the nieghborhood as a whole? or you plan on holeing up with your family and supplies and defend from inside your house?
Originally Posted By Buck762:
When shtf will you and your nieghbors ally and protect the nieghborhood as a whole? or you plan on holeing up with your family and supplies and defend from inside your house?
Out of sight, out of mind.
OPSEC
i work at a grocery store and i think when those foodstamp cards stop working it will be about 24-48 hours. last year the system went down and i was on red alert cause it was out for a few hours and people were getting angry. when you dont work for your food and income and it stops all of a sudden they do not know what to do. we had customers in line calling every store in town to find out if they could go there. the hotline for free feed was not working because of the amount of calls. i believe that is how it will happen no notice the food stamps stop coming because of government issues and then the riots start. i live in a small city so i wouldnt want to know how it will be in a big city.
just go with the flow
never sorta-
slow decline, not gonna wake up and start poppin zombies on the front lawn. If you want to "prep" make your big moves now and thank yourself years down the road. Basic emergency prepardness is one thing but roadmapping a sustainable and secure future for your family is tactical vs strategic thinking. I live in the city and thinking about a move, this is obviously a bigger commitment than buying MREs and some ammo
I dunno, world is going to shit toward a, total recall - 1984 - blade runner type end state. Revolution in a UAV drone and wire tapping age is fools gold. I am baking my prepardness in a similar fashion as my 401k , a liitle at a time...
hyper inflashion
