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1947 ford 1 1/2 ton DRW resto project part 2
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
Some of you may have been following my old thread which I let slip into archives. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_134/1233760_.html In which we had purchased a 1947 Ford 79T 1 1/2 ton truck. In the thread I had progress or removing the tow gear and stripping and priming the tins. Since then I have removed the front tins and a few other odds and ends on that truck. Nothing special. My father wanted this truck and I was in the process of getting it into my shop for winter.

Well last week I found another fairly local add for a 1947 Ford 1 1/2 ton farm truck in running and driving condition. Plans for the old truck were to build a flat bed with a stake side and paint the cab and nose the original green with off white trim it shipped with. So after some hemming and hawing and a while lot of convincing my fiancée and my fathers wife not to shoot us. My old man and I set out to take a look at the truck. We stopped at my uncles house who lived in the area to visit for a min with him and his wife. He wound up joining us and we went down to check her out.

As soon as we pulled in both my father and my uncles faces lit up with smiles. They knew the truck before even getting out of the car. Both of them had driven an almost identical truck in their youth delivering bundles of news papers to stores and paper boys in their youth. Both of their first cars were fords with flat heads in them as well. The seller was also their age and they yacked it up while I divided my time between petting a beautiful shepherd and checking out the truck. I already knew my father wanted the truck so I took her for a spin ( 4 speed crash boxes are oh so fun) So we struck a deal and bought the truck. A two hour ride home into the sun on I-95 at 45-50 mph with ear plugs in and the windows down on Thursday evening and here she is!







She isn't perfect. Resto was done on her over a decade ago and time has taken its toll of course. The owner used her for towing his antique cars to shows, hauling fire wood and such. Luckily I have the first truck as a parts truck and most everything she needs can be found on the first truck.

I hope to revive the resto of the first truck one some day. We are considering hot rodding it a bit and making a good driver out of it or just stock piling parts for this truck.
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die-tryin  [Team Member]
Very cool.
psdavi01  [Team Member]
That is a beautiful truck!
Dave15  [Team Member]
LOL brother, you GOT BOTH!!!!

Now swap modern drivetrain in first truck, KEEPING it a wrecker!
wildearp  [Team Member]
I love the old wreckers! Cool!


Here is a 48 F1 I should be working on this weekend instead of posting:

Badlatitude  [Team Member]
The wrecker stuff was not original. Truck 1 was originally a local tractor out of NY and later converted a wrecker. I cut all that stuff off it. In later pics of the original thread. The hydro spool was busted at its mounting points and was cast. Attempts at some point to weld it up failed and it had multiple breaks in it. Plus atleast in CT u cant reg or insure a wrecker unless its commerical no matter if you plan on using it or not.

We are going to use many things off truck 1 for truck 2 including the glass and doors. Along with having the generator and started rebuild for spairs etc.

Yes we have spoke about using the frame and tins and going with an IFS set up and a coil over set up for suspension and dropping in a bbc and a th400. The priority is to restore truck 2 first though.

Since this photo the spool was lifted off all the tins were stripped and sprayed with rattle can primer and the hood, nose and fenders were removed in prep to send them to media blasting.


Badlatitude  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By wildearp:
I love the old wreckers! Cool!


Here is a 48 F1 I should be working on this weekend instead of posting:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2hzi8ty.jpg


Sweet truck!
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
Awesome truck man. Thanks for the updated thread and new pics. I love those old trucks, Fords are my favorite
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
I cant believe how easily the damn flatheat starts even in the cold. 1/2 choke and tap the peddle twice. Hit the button and it fires instantly.
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
I cant believe how easily the damn flatheat starts even in the cold. 1/2 choke and tap the peddle twice. Hit the button and it fires instantly.


We had a old Fire engine, 32 I think. That thing started and ran great. Long as we kept the battery charged we were good to go
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
I cant believe how easily the damn Flathead starts even in the cold. 1/2 choke and tap the peddle twice. Hit the button and it fires instantly.


We had a old Fire engine, 32 I think. That thing started and ran great. Long as we kept the battery charged we were good to go


I noticed that also. Unless you charge the truck daily it labors to start. especially if you start and stop it on several short trips with out a good run at a higher rpm. I think that is the inherent problem with a generator. If you aren't winging the engine at a high rpm they just don't charge as well as an alternator.

I foresee a 12v conversion coming this winter.
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
I cant believe how easily the damn Flathead starts even in the cold. 1/2 choke and tap the peddle twice. Hit the button and it fires instantly.


We had a old Fire engine, 32 I think. That thing started and ran great. Long as we kept the battery charged we were good to go


I noticed that also. Unless you charge the truck daily it labors to start. especially if you start and stop it on several short trips with out a good run at a higher rpm. I think that is the inherent problem with a generator. If you aren't winging the engine at a high rpm they just don't charge as well as an alternator.

I foresee a 12v conversion coming this winter.


If not needing to keep it orginal then 12v with a modern battery and charging/ignition system is the only way to go.
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
Yeah Im pretty sure im going to convert it to 12v this winter once I get it inside. I could have my generator re wound to 12v which would keep the original look but an alternator with a built in regulator is a better option. I guess I will have to hem and haw over that for a bit. I really like how original the truck is.

Some things that are incorrect on it right now are the color of the headlight and blinker trim rings.They should be off white. The off white is actually incorrect but very very close

The skinny trim piece center of the hood is some aftermarket POS that is chrome painted over.

the lolli pops on the fenders are way too new

Fuel tank is wrong BUT the owner had the old fuel fill welded up during its resto many years ago and im not going to re cut it. I would not have re installed the tank under the seat but having the filler in the proper location out have been nice.

All the DOT reflective tape is comming off. The truck is not registered commercial.

We also are going to swap doors with truck one and windshield glass. As the driver door on truck 2 is tweaked BAD from someone trying to re weld the hinge and buvkling the door skin. Plus the mechanisms are all fubar an the passenger window has a crack in it. The windshields in truck two have smoke sround the edges. Truck ones are far better.

Luckily everything i need for truck two is on truck one, original and correct. I cant wait to dig into her
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
I was talking with the owner of the race team I crew on last night. He told me he found a alternator that looks like a generator in Jegs for the 59AB Flathead, Found it this mornin online http://www.jegs.com/i/Powermaster/713/82011/10002/-1

karlb  [Team Member]
I have a 46 Ford 1 1/2 ton COE. It has the original engine. With a 12 volt alternator on a ebay bracket and an electric fuel pump, the old girl always starts.
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By karlb:
I have a 46 Ford 1 1/2 ton COE. It has the original engine. With a 12 volt alternator on a ebay bracket and an electric fuel pump, the old girl always starts.


sweet throw up some pics! COEs are killer!
karlb  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
Originally Posted By karlb:
I have a 46 Ford 1 1/2 ton COE. It has the original engine. With a 12 volt alternator on a ebay bracket and an electric fuel pump, the old girl always starts.


sweet throw up some pics! COEs are killer!




My grandpa bought the truck in 1948 and used it on the farm until 1984. I inherited it about 15 years ago. The COE replaced grandpa's old Ford Model TT:



I spliced on the back half of a 85 Chev 1/2 ton frame and put an 1951 F2 8ft box on it, but it's got the original motor and tranny yet. I'll finish it someday.

Badlatitude  [Team Member]
does she have the flathead in her or the inline six?
karlb  [Team Member]
She's got the 59AB V8. I don't think they ever put a 6 cylinder in a COE, just because of room. I have a 51 8ba V8 sitting next to it with Offy heads and a Offy three duece intake with Stromberg 97s. The plan was to put a C4 auto behind that engine because of it's removeable bellhousing.

30 years ago, your average family didn't own a truck. We didn't. If we needed to haul wood or lumber, we drove to grampas and grabbed the COE. Some of my earliest memories are sitting between Dad and Grandpa on a little wooden bench, looking out the popped open split windshields, and listening to the flathead roar through twin glasspacks, wide open at 45 mph.

SemperMO  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:

Yes we have spoke about using the frame and tins and going with an IFS set up and a coil over set up for suspension and dropping in a bbc and a th400. The priority is to restore truck 2 first though.



Why?

Either stick with the Flathead (very cool), or at least stay Ford.


Nothing worse than seeing an awesome old Ford hot rod, popping the hood and seeing a damn Chevy motor in there
PBIR  [Team Member]
I heart this thread. Old trucks are awesome.
karlb  [Team Member]
There's something honest about an old farm truck. It wasn't used to look cool, it was used to get the crops in and make the owner money. As long as it continued to do so, it had a place on the farmstead.
thezentree  [Member]
Originally Posted By SemperMO:
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:

Yes we have spoke about using the frame and tins and going with an IFS set up and a coil over set up for suspension and dropping in a bbc and a th400. The priority is to restore truck 2 first though.



Why?

Either stick with the Flathead (very cool), or at least stay Ford.


Nothing worse than seeing an awesome old Ford hot rod, popping the hood and seeing a damn Chevy motor in there


I'm a Chevy guy and I approve this message.
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By SemperMO:
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:

Yes we have spoke about using the frame and tins and going with an IFS set up and a coil over set up for suspension and dropping in a bbc and a th400. The priority is to restore truck 2 first though.



Why?

Either stick with the Flathead (very cool), or at least stay Ford.


Nothing worse than seeing an awesome old Ford hot rod, popping the hood and seeing a damn Chevy motor in there


Truck #2 will keep the flathead and crash box without a doubt. The bbc th400 option for truck #1 is for several reasons. Mostly because we have several and tons of parts. That is a very distant decsion as the green truck will be getting all the attention this winter and truck #1 is being used as a parts truck. Trust me I already mentioned I wish I didnt sell my dart blocked 347 and glide to a buddy after picking up the truck
Badlatitude  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By karlb:
She's got the 59AB V8. I don't think they ever put a 6 cylinder in a COE, just because of room. I have a 51 8ba V8 sitting next to it with Offy heads and a Offy three duece intake with Stromberg 97s. The plan was to put a C4 auto behind that engine because of it's removeable bellhousing.

30 years ago, your average family didn't own a truck. We didn't. If we needed to haul wood or lumber, we drove to grampas and grabbed the COE. Some of my earliest memories are sitting between Dad and Grandpa on a little wooden bench, looking out the popped open split windshields, and listening to the flathead roar through twin glasspacks, wide open at 45 mph.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/nobux/cabovermarch2407002.jpg


Yeah bolth of mine of their Original 59AB engines with 4 speec crash boxes. The green truck has a single speed rear. The while one has a 2 speed in her. The engine is locked up in the white truck tho which I fear is what caused them to put her in storage in 1974. Untill I have time to dig into it I wound know if its even salvagable.
wildearp  [Team Member]
Originally Posted By SemperMO:
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:

Yes we have spoke about using the frame and tins and going with an IFS set up and a coil over set up for suspension and dropping in a bbc and a th400. The priority is to restore truck 2 first though.



Why?

Either stick with the Flathead (very cool), or at least stay Ford.


Nothing worse than seeing an awesome old Ford hot rod, popping the hood and seeing a damn Chevy motor in there


Cheapest way to get 350hp you will find anywhere. I can build a hot rod Chevy motor cheaper than any ford motor.

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