I want to relocate to NYS from Florida . I would like to secure employment as an armed security officer before I move. From what I determined there is no way to get a pistol permit until I am a NYS resident? Any other options?

Nope. Sorry.

Depending on the company they may be able to push one through or even file him for peace officer status in rather short order.  It all depends...executive protection companies in NYC for example, but if you are planning to guard a warehouse in East Bumble...probly not...

nope, not gonna happen.  plus you have to be a resident in the state for x amount of years, I forget how long before you are able to apply.

If you find a job before you move the company you work for may be able to expedite the process. Being materially employed by a company in NYS is one of the few conditions that allows non NYS resident to get a pistol license.

Why on Earth do you want to do that?  You like snow, high taxes and no freedom????



 

Most of my family lives there and my dad is sick, so I wanted to live closer. Also, the area here has gone to hell and I want a better place to raise my son.

This. Contrary to popular belief you do not need to be a NYS resident to get a pistol license in NY.  



3. Applications. (a) Applications shall be made and  renewed,  in  the

 case  of  a  license  to  carry  or possess a pistol or revolver, to the

 licensing officer in the city or county, as the case may be,  where  the

 applicant resides, is principally employed or has his principal place of

 business  as  merchant  or storekeeper; and, in the case of a license as

 gunsmith or dealer in firearms, to  the  licensing  officer  where  such

 place  of  business  is located. Blank applications shall, except in the

 city of New York, be approved as to form by the superintendent of  state

 police.  An  application  shall  state  the  full  name,  date of birth,

 residence, present occupation of each person or individual  signing  the

 same,  whether  or  not he is a citizen of the United States, whether or

 not he complies with  each  requirement  for  eligibility  specified  in

 subdivision  one of this section and such other facts as may be required

 to show the good character, competency and integrity of each  person  or

 individual  signing  the application. An application shall be signed and

 verified by the applicant. Each individual signing an application  shall

 submit  one photograph of himself and a duplicate for each required copy

 of the application. Such photographs shall have been taken within thirty

 days prior to filing the application. In case of a license  as  gunsmith

 or  dealer  in  firearms,  the photographs submitted shall be two inches

 square, and the application shall also state the previous occupation  of

 each  individual  signing the same and the location of the place of such

 business, or of the bureau, agency, subagency, office or  branch  office

 for  which  the license is sought, specifying the name of the city, town

 or village, indicating the street and number and otherwise  giving  such

 apt description as to point out reasonably the location thereof. In such

 case,  if the applicant is a firm, partnership or corporation, its name,

 date and place of formation, and principal place of  business  shall  be

 stated.  For  such  firm or partnership, the application shall be signed

 and verified by each individual composing or intending  to  compose  the

 same, and for such corporation, by each officer thereof.



 

http://www.nassaucivilservice.com/NCCSWeb/homepage.nsf/0/EBED41AF9FE7EC14852579C9004EF495

I cannot find the story at the moment but either the NY Post or NY Times had reported in a story about gun control about a rock group that was playing NYC and some members were bringing their pistols with them.  NYPD arranged to meet them on their bus and process permits for them right there.  The kind of service no ordinary peon citizen would ever get in NYC.





 

The N.Y. AG stated in a formal opinion to the G.A. AG back around '96 that there is nothing in state law that allows the issuing of pistol licenses to non-residents.

That was Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith.  NYPD Capt. in charge of licensing got a free limo ride and backstage pass to fingerprint them at a Meadowlands concert.

Getting a job as an armed guard will expedite the process, they will ask for a letter from your employer. Though they will drag their damned feet. They act like sulking children sometimes " oh do I have to? Okay fine but it's going to take six months!"

G.I.'s do it all the time.

the problem is that you'll have to prove you need it pretty much

And I know the other posters quoted laws that stated you don't have to be a resident, but.... each county specifically states that you have to be a resident of that county in order to obtain a permit.  Is that some way to circumvent state law or something?  Like, "you don't have to be a state resident but you have to be a county resident" kind of bullshit?

But I ... Hmm this seems odd.  Back when I left NY each county also had their own rules on how long you had to be a resident before getting a permit.  Some said 6 months, some said 12... I've been randomly looking at different county sites and haven't seen that requirement...


The requirements I have seen though are pretty much the following:

• Must be a New York State / [whatever county] resident.  (Sometimes the "new york state" part isn't even there!)


• Must be at least 21 years old.


• Must have four character references.


• Must attend a Handgun Safety Course with one of our certified instructors and furnish this office with proof of completion of the course. Fees and locations differ, but it is the applicant's responsibility to make arrangements for the course.

And, at least back in 2010 sometimes those character references also had to be residents from your county.  Some counties even stipulated how long they had to have known you for... pretty much making it effectively impossible to move to NY (or even change counties) and apply for a gun permit.

Or as my BF said... putting in so much red tape people just give up.


Were they forced to remove the individual county restrictions then?  The ones about "time as resident" or limiting your references to people in your current county, etc?

And  bank messengers, security guards, private detectives, jewelers, diamond dealers and a host of other NYS non-residents who have a business/employment relationship in the county where the application for a CCL is made.







 

Yes.  Not only licenses but peace officer status for assault weapons and standard capacity magazines.

Can you elaborate, and provide examples?  I've heard these rumors here, but never in real life.  The closest thing example that I could find is some quasi private entities like the Metropolitan Museum of Art getting their guards "Special Patrolman" status.  Special Patrolman exist only in NYC though, and I've only heard of that status being given to guards at hospitals, museums, etc.

One of my friends showed up with a new Glock and a 15 rd mag one day, we worked out that this is what had happened behind the scenes from his new employer.  Lived outside of NYC, but I believe it was a NYC based company.

NYC Special Patrolman can not carry on their shield.  They need a pistol permit.  

Many years ago I shot with a group of Canadians and they all had NY carry permits.Chautauqua Co judge , whoever he was 30 years
ago issued them.

I'm not surprised; Trap Shooting was/is very big in the Northern & Western parts of the State. The old-timers from the Team I used to shoot with often spoke of going to Clubs in Canada and them coming to the States to shoot in the Leagues, of course that was at least 20 years ago.
(There are at least 15 Clubs with Trap Teams in Jefferson,  Lewis, and St. Lawrence Counties)

So would they have had to own homes in NY?