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Posted: 3/22/2017 1:25:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Per the story and the DNR website, .357 and larger, straight wall with expanding type bullet, ammo. I would guess that it would include everything that fits the above description.
Gives me a reason to get a lever gun in 45-70 maybe. 
ETA: I searched for a comprehensive list of each round included but failed. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 1:56:58 PM EDT
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Per the story and the DNR website, .357 and larger, straight wall with expanding type bullet, ammo. I would guess that it would include everything that fits the above description. Gives me a reason to get a lever gun in 45-70 maybe.
ETA: I searched for a comprehensive list of each round included but failed. 
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Posted: 3/22/2017 6:51:16 PM EDT
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Would be great to see this one go through. Then would come the decision on which caliber to choose.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 7:49:29 PM EDT
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Might be time for a custom "Go screw yourself DNR 357 Super Ultra Mag" How about one that has enough case capacity to drive a 140gr Hornady FTX bullet 2500-2700fps? Some wildcatter should be able to do that...
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:16:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThanks for posting the list. I don't know why I couldn't find it, I'd seen it before.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:33:46 PM EDT
[#6]
Maybe do a .50 Beowulf upper?
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:57:06 PM EDT
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I've been wanting to shoot deer with a scoped 44 mag lever gun for a long time as I hate slug hunting and the muzzy season is just too early and then too late for me. I would like to see this go through.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:36:47 AM EDT
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I've been wanting to shoot deer with a scoped 44 mag lever gun for a long time as I hate slug hunting and the muzzy season is just too early and then too late for me. I would like to see this go through. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 9:05:34 AM EDT
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Nice cloudy language about "no long barrel conversions". Min is 4", why can't they arbitrarily set a stupid max length rather than leaving it murky?
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Posted: 3/23/2017 11:17:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Have made calls, have spoken face to face with reps, have sent many emails on all issues in Iowa.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 11:48:25 AM EDT
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Have made calls, have spoken face to face with reps, have sent many emails on all issues in Iowa. 
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:36:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Heres how its worded
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:37:06 PM EDT
[#13]
"In addition, the commission shall provide, by rule, for the use of straight wall ammunition under this subsection that meets ballistics specifications similar to the requirements for straight wall ammunition allowed for use in a pistol or revolver for hunting deer as provided in subsection 5." By the way I read this it seems that the list should be expanded to include more cartridges. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:31:32 PM EDT
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"In addition, the commission shall provide, by rule, for the use of straight wall ammunition under this subsection that meets ballistics specifications similar to the requirements for straight wall ammunition allowed for use in a pistol or revolver for hunting deer as provided in subsection 5." By the way I read this it seems that the list should be expanded to include more cartridges. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:45:28 PM EDT
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Nice cloudy language about "no long barrel conversions". Min is 4", why can't they arbitrarily set a stupid max length rather than leaving it murky? ETA-my $250 Marlin 1895 might get to put a hole in something other than paper this year! |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 9:51:06 PM EDT
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Might be time for a custom "Go screw yourself DNR 357 Super Ultra Mag" How about one that has enough case capacity to drive a 140gr Hornady FTX bullet 2500-2700fps? Some wildcatter should be able to do that... Maybe Leverevolution bullets? The pointed bullet might squeeze a touch more fps out of it too. Might not reach 2500, but Max would be a great deer round. |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 9:54:21 PM EDT
[#17]
10mm AR pistol, here I come.
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:03:04 PM EDT
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10mm AR pistol, here I come. |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:11:36 PM EDT
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10MM in an AR pistol would already be good to go. This would allow the same in a rifle. 16", stock, then if we get SBRs allowed get a tax stamp for next year! |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 11:06:14 PM EDT
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Well giddy up, I would definitely shoot a deer given that |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 5:25:00 PM EDT
[#21]
I hope this passes.
I'd love a different season, but I'll take what we can get. |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 6:23:24 PM EDT
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I hope this passes. I'd love a different season, but I'll take what we can get. Now, after a few seasons of straight wall rifles and no higher accident rate maybe they'll see the light and give us a full rifle hunt, one way or the other. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 1:44:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Any word on if this will pass the Senate?
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Posted: 3/30/2017 2:38:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Can't speak to whether or not it has the votes to pass, but it did clear the second funnel (today). So it's eligible for a vote in the full Senate. It passed the House 96-0 and no one is registered against it, so I wouldn't bet against it.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 3:19:42 PM EDT
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Can't speak to whether or not it has the votes to pass, but it did clear the second funnel (today). So it's eligible for a vote in the full Senate. It passed the House 96-0 and no one is registered against it, so I wouldn't bet against it. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:58:40 PM EDT
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Can't speak to whether or not it has the votes to pass, but it did clear the second funnel (today). So it's eligible for a vote in the full Senate. It passed the House 96-0 and no one is registered against it, so I wouldn't bet against it. |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 7:06:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Looks like it was passed?
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:19:33 PM EDT
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Looks like it was passed? 
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Posted: 4/3/2017 9:48:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Deer hunting with a Kriss Vector would be pretty awesome
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Posted: 4/3/2017 10:52:26 PM EDT
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How fast is a 140 from a .357 Maximum at safe pressure levels? Deer would be a great use for the round. Maybe Leverevolution bullets? The pointed bullet might squeeze a touch more fps out of it too. Might not reach 2500, but Max would be a great deer round. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Might be time for a custom "Go screw yourself DNR 357 Super Ultra Mag" How about one that has enough case capacity to drive a 140gr Hornady FTX bullet 2500-2700fps? Some wildcatter should be able to do that... Maybe Leverevolution bullets? The pointed bullet might squeeze a touch more fps out of it too. Might not reach 2500, but Max would be a great deer round. It passed today: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/03/straight-wall-cartridge-rifle-deer-hunting-iowa/99989680/ |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:00:09 PM EDT
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You can get 2600+fps with the 140gr Hornady tipped bullets in a 20" barrel. After I wrote the original post this I did some research and found that the 357 Maximum is just about perfect in a 20" barrel and 2550-2700fps is routine at safe pressures. It passed today: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/03/straight-wall-cartridge-rifle-deer-hunting-iowa/99989680/ |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:06:10 PM EDT
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Now to come up with a magazine that would work. A Ruger 77/357Maximum would be sweet! |
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:24:38 PM EDT
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Oh damn i like that idea but make mine semi auto like their old 44mag carbines ETA-in any case, looks like my .45-70 will get some exercise in December. And I had all but made up my mind to not bother with firearm deer hunting this year!- Further ETA-just told my dad this passed, explained if allowed for handgun allowed for rifle. His response-"What about my Hornet?" When he was a kid in Montana he shot a deer in the neck with a .22 hornet, dropped it where it stood, and to this day nothing will convince him that it's not a good deer gun. I told him buy a Rossi .357 for $200 or so. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:44:45 AM EDT
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Even better! ETA-in any case, looks like my .45-70 will get some exercise in December. And I had all but made up my mind to not bother with firearm deer hunting this year!- Further ETA-just told my dad this passed, explained if allowed for handgun allowed for rifle. His response-"What about my Hornet?" When he was a kid in Montana he shot a deer in the neck with a .22 hornet, dropped it where it stood, and to this day nothing will convince him that it's not a good deer gun. I told him buy a Rossi .357 for $200 or so. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 5:54:57 PM EDT
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New Rossi will run at least $450. The only used one I've ever seen was an older LSI import that I snagged for $400 a couple of years ago. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 6:49:18 AM EDT
[#36]
I think a 45-70 gov't may be in my future
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Posted: 4/5/2017 7:36:03 AM EDT
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I think a 45-70 gov't may be in my future |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 10:38:19 AM EDT
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So I guess I now have to send in the forms to SBR my 10MM glock, and maybe get a threaded extended barrel, reflex sight mount, ......
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Posted: 4/5/2017 8:15:32 PM EDT
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So I guess I now have to send in the forms to SBR my 10MM glock, and maybe get a threaded extended barrel, reflex sight mount, ...... http://www.rmwxtreme.com/#top |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 8:56:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI wish you hadn't posted that! I still haven't finished my current build!
I do have all the parts though, and it's at the smith being blued as we speak. Before and after pics will be posted, but it's not an AR. |
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Posted: 4/6/2017 2:26:15 AM EDT
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Oh damn i like that idea but make mine semi auto like their old 44mag carbines |
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Posted: 4/6/2017 8:52:35 AM EDT
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I happen to have a 1962 vintage 44 mag carbine. Sweet little carbine. |
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Posted: 4/6/2017 8:08:03 PM EDT
[#43]
I guess I sold all my straight walled chambered leverguns a couple years too soon
 . I gave up gun hunting for deer a few years ago but maybe I might have to build a .50 Beowulf AR to take out.
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Posted: 4/6/2017 11:14:05 PM EDT
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I guess I sold all my straight walled chambered leverguns a couple years too soon . I gave up gun hunting for deer a few years ago but maybe I might have to build a .50 Beowulf AR to take out.
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Posted: 4/7/2017 12:08:10 AM EDT
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IDK what I want, but I'm going to have to get something. |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 9:51:01 AM EDT
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I just realized that I already have a rifle that is compliant with this, but I don't really feel/know if it is powerful enough for a quick humane kill -- any opinion from more avid hunters?
It's a Beretta CX4, 16 inch barreled 40S&W. I'd presumably be using highend COTS loads (like buffalo bore 155 gr. 1,300 fps) |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 7:17:28 PM EDT
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I just realized that I already have a rifle that is compliant with this, but I don't really feel/know if it is powerful enough for a quick humane kill -- any opinion from more avid hunters? It's a Beretta CX4, 16 inch barreled 40S&W. I'd presumably be using highend COTS loads (like buffalo bore 155 gr. 1,300 fps) |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 7:36:53 PM EDT
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I just realized that I already have a rifle that is compliant with this, but I don't really feel/know if it is powerful enough for a quick humane kill -- any opinion from more avid hunters? It's a Beretta CX4, 16 inch barreled 40S&W. I'd presumably be using highend COTS loads (like buffalo bore 155 gr. 1,300 fps) http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/40sw.html |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 10:17:57 PM EDT
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I just realized that I already have a rifle that is compliant with this, but I don't really feel/know if it is powerful enough for a quick humane kill -- any opinion from more avid hunters? It's a Beretta CX4, 16 inch barreled 40S&W. I'd presumably be using highend COTS loads (like buffalo bore 155 gr. 1,300 fps) |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 3:02:36 PM EDT
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I was thinking .30 carbine was on the list for some reason, and I got all excited thinking I wouldn't need to buy a rifle. Nope, no such luck.
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