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Posted: 8/2/2009 2:16:23 PM EDT
Seattle bank teller chases robber, loses job
Sun Aug 2, 1:24 pm ET

SEATTLE – A Seattle bank teller has lost his job because he ran down a would-be bank robber and held him until police arrived. Jim Nicholson, 30, who had worked for more than two years at a Key Bank branch near the Seattle Center, says he understands the bank's strict policy that employees comply with robbery demands and avoid confrontations.

But he told The Seattle Times that instinct took over when a thin man in a beanie cap, dark clothing and sunglasses pushed a black backpack across the bank counter on Tuesday and demanded money.

Nicholson threw the bag to the floor, lunged toward the man and demanded to see a weapon. The man bolted for the door with Nicholson in pursuit.

He chased him several blocks before knocking him to the ground with the help of a passer-by. Nicholson then held the man until police arrived.

On Thursday, Nicholson was fired. Key Bank spokeswoman Anne Foster declined to comment on Nicholson and his actions.

Police and the FBI discourage such heroics. Bank tellers are trained to get robbers out the door quickly and are advised against possibly escalating a situation over money that's federally insured.

Nicholson said he understands why he was fired.

"They tell us that we're just supposed to comply, but my instincts kicked in and I did what's best to stop the guy," he said. "I thought if I let him go he would rob more banks and cause more problems."

Seattle police Sgt. Sean Whitcomb said the best course for citizens is to be good witnesses to crimes.

"When confronted by a violent criminal, it is best to comply unless they feel their personal safety is in jeopardy. It is possible that taking action and confronting the criminal may lead to the injury of the victim or other bystanders."

"You want tellers to be proactive, but you want them to do it safely," said FBI Special Agent Fred Gutt.

The would-be robber, a 29-year-old transient, has a lengthy criminal history, including convictions for theft and robbery, according to court records. Charges in the attempted robbery were not immediately filed.

Nicholson said he has run after shoplifters while working at other retail jobs.

"It's something I almost look forward to. It's a thrill and I'm an adrenaline-junkie person. It's the pursuit," he said.

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Information from: The Seattle Times, http://www.seattletimes.com


Be a good citizen, don't think.
We are raising a bunch of pussy's, plain and simple. I say we buy him a beer.
I guess if more people were like him, then there wouldn't be a need for cops. Oh, I just realized... job security for those fucks!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 2:29:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Well it's not really a Seattle thing, it is corporate policy.

If I brought a gun to work I would get fired for violating company policy. This guy admits he likes the thrill of the chase, not surprised he got fired at all.

I would buy him a beer though.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 2:36:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Shame.

Shoulda given him a fuckin' raise, not fired him.  Good on him for getting a criminal piece of shit arrested.

Does seem like we're becoming a Nation of weak sheep.  

He knew it was against policy, so yeah....................................................shouldn't have been fired though.

Weak.

All this corporate policy bullshit everywhere about giving in to criminals is just what the criminals want.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 2:36:55 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm not surprised he got fired, and I understand the corporate policy, but this guy should be celebrated. His instincts were correct and there's a dirty scum-bag thief off the streets for a while.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 2:43:35 PM EDT
[#4]
So. let's find his addy, host him a dinner and I guess I won't be getting an account at Key.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 2:44:02 PM EDT
[#5]
He knew policy, blah, blah, blah...
He is still worthy of top shelf beer.

It just pains me to see the FBI, local cops, etc. telling people not to stand up for themselves.
The next time I see a politician having a violent crime committed against them, I'll know in my heart I'll be doing the right thing by not helping them.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 2:44:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Kudos and big balls to the dude foiling the plan of the evil bank robber.  Termination harsh...maybe?  A severe reprimand/suspension/write-up....maybe better?  This story made national news and the fall out maybe more harmful to the bank in the customers eyes.

I'm sure when he signed on the dotted line that he knew (or was trained the bank "code of conduct" or policy) what the protocol was in a robbery type setting.  Did he really know if the bad guy had a gun?  He put customers and other employees at risk?  Is he trained for stopping robberies?  I guess we have to look at the bank's point of view and libility.  If something did go wrong, we'd all be saying this guy is a dipshit for acting like some mall ninja and shoulda left it to the pros.  If I was working beside this guy, I say he sure has some big kahones, but don't do that again.  I want to go home and study up for my fantasy football draft.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 2:55:29 PM EDT
[#7]
And now from the darker side of the fucktards:

Bank teller captures a robber and gets fired
comments Comments (0)
By Rick, August 2, 2009

A Seat­tle man was fired from his job at the bank because he chased down a would be bank rob­ber. From the Asso­ci­ated Press:

   Jim Nichol­son, who worked at a Key Bank branch, says he under­stands the bank’s pol­icy that employ­ees com­ply with rob­bery demands and avoid dan­ger­ous con­fronta­tions. But he tells The Seat­tle Times that his instincts took over when the man demanded money dur­ing the Tues­day incident.

   Nichol­son says he tried to grab the man, then chased him sev­eral blocks before knock­ing him down with help from a passer-by. The man turned out to be unarmed.

   The 30-year-old Nichol­son was fired Thursday.

His instincts took over? What is he, a cocker spaniel? That’s not instinct that’s telling him to chase a bank rob­ber, that’s just his stu­pid­ity talking.

I have zero sym­pa­thy for this guy los­ing his job. He’s a bank teller, not a mem­ber of the Jus­tice League.

He should have just let the guy leave. He didn’t even get any money. Nichol­son refused to fill the robber’s back­pack until he pro­duced a weapon. Imag­ine if you were in the bank wait­ing to do some­thing and this whole mess was going on. The goal should be to keep any would-be rob­ber from bran­dish­ing a weapon, not to get him to whip it out.

The bank did the right thing by fir­ing this yahoo. Imag­ine the heat the bank would receive if they required their tellers to pur­sue would-be rob­bers. The idea is ridiculous.

This isn’t the first time he’s done some­thing stu­pid like this. From the Seat­tle Times:

   Nichol­son said he has run after shoplifters while work­ing at retail jobs in New York and Cal­i­for­nia. On Tues­day, as well as in past cases, Nichol­son said he felt con­fi­dent he could catch the person.

   “It’s some­thing I almost look for­ward to. It’s a thrill and I’m an adrenaline-junkie per­son. It’s the pur­suit,” he said, adding that when he told Seat­tle police offi­cers this, one offi­cer sug­gested he apply to become a cop.

This is some­thing he looks for­ward to? That tells you every­thing you need to know.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 3:01:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Good God!
This is from Florida:

forum
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 3:03:00 PM EDT
[#9]
Sounds like somebody needs to apply to his local PD.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 4:23:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Bank robbers know the corporate policies well and they rely on the tellers following them.  Most of the robbers don't bother bringing a weapon because they know they don't need one and it will just mean more prison time when they get caught.   Tellers know this and I bet some of them get pretty frustrated handing over money to these losers.
I can see the bank's point of view that they just want to avoid liability, but their attitude on the matter just leads to more robberies.  I think another part of the bank's concern is that they'd prefer if the robber just left quietly and no one besides the bank employees and the police ever even know a robbery occurred.  Banks like to maintain that illusion of safety and security.

You'd think the branches that get hit a lot could at least hire some old retired cop to sit by the door and be a visual deterrent like they used to do years ago.  It's been a long time since I've seen any kind of security in a bank besides cameras.  I guess the banks just figure it's more cost effective to give away federally insured money.

On the other hand, the FBI and other agencies do an excellent job of tracking down bank robbers.  The probability of being arrested after committing a bank robbery is exceptionally high compared to other crimes.  If there are other customers in the bank and the teller isn't equipped to safely handle the guy, then it's probably a smarter idea to just let the dumbass walk out the door and get picked up later.  The incident in Ballard where the store clerk got shot and killed while he tried to wrestle with a robber comes to mind.

His bravery's to be commended.  His judgement might need a little work however.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 5:03:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Hey guys, I know a bank we can rob and not be punished!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 5:05:42 PM EDT
[#12]
doesn't quite work that way, fairly high closure rate for bank robbery.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 5:43:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 6:02:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Hey guys, I know a bank we can rob and not be punished!


Um... ALL of them do this.  Even the banks that have (UNARMED) "security" guards (and I used to do this at a number of them) don't do shit.  The guards are there for show, and to keep the chicken shit robbers away.  Like this guy actually.  No bank will state their robbery policy publicy, so I'll just sum it up.  "Be a pussy and do what they say and be a good victim... er I mean witness."

But then again, is a couple thousand of the banks, insured, dollars worth the risk that you're going to get yourself hurt, or that it could escalate into an actual armed hold up?  And then the banks have to worry about liability.  If they allowed this, and the teller got hurt, or a customer, the lawsuit would be outrageous.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 6:24:31 PM EDT
[#15]
When I hear these kind of stories, flight 93 comes to mind.  The weak masses continue getting weaker because the danger is only cumulative, not imminent.  On flight 93, the frog in the pot got the heat turned up to boil in a hurry and people took action and sacrificed their lives intentionally.

The underlying trend seems to be "we don't give a crap about each other, just our self".  A little selfless, personal socialism is missing from our society.

Link Posted: 8/2/2009 6:41:28 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


Sounds like somebody needs to apply to his local PD.


I was thinking the same thing...



If some piece of shit was trying to rob me, I'd only comply long enough to get the jump on him. I know most robberies don't "go bad" but all it takes is one time to end up 6 feet under, and I won't be that guy.



 
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 11:23:01 AM EDT
[#17]
As this economic down turn gets worse there are going to be a lot more robberies and one of these days the sheeple will have to stand up for what is right.

That dude did the right thing in my book.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 12:07:35 PM EDT
[#18]
Once upon a long time ago I was a bank teller. This guy was wasting his talents as a pink fingered teller. Besides, he wasn't making much anyway, so he isn't out much. Good for him for not being a sheep. He's better off having some gumption and no job than a puss with a job in the long run.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 2:02:16 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Bank robbers know the corporate policies well and they rely on the tellers following them.  Most of the robbers don't bother bringing a weapon


To play the part of the Devil's Advocate, we all know there are unintended consequences to many decisions. The decision to disallow defiance may have led to more robbery attempts, however as noted above, it has also led to less dangerous robberies. If the company policy was to allow employees to resist robbers, there is a higher likelihood that robbers would bring weapons and put more people in danger.

Since we know there have been bank robbers as long as there have been banks, we can say that allowing resistance will not stop violent robberies.

What is worse: a customer or teller getting shot and the robber caught using the CCTV footage, or one flustered teller, no bothered customers, with the robber caught using the CCTV footage?

If the robbers do not use weapons, it is still better for the robbed teller... I think most people would be very upset if they found themselves staring down the barrel of a gun during the course of their shift, Being as that's what the robbers will need to do in order to make sure the teller will not resist, in absence of this sort of policy.  

While I do think it is an injustice that the teller was fired, the policy is designed to make these events safer for everyone involved. Increasing the consequences for a given crime filters out the least dangerous criminal element... but that filter ensures the more dangerous criminals will be the ones committing the given crimes.

I think the worst thing about promoting resistance in these situations is that the robber that would not have otherwise used violence to commit the robbery may now be more willing to use immediate violence to create the initial intimidation to maintain control, rather the corporate policy over the teller to keep things calm and quiet during the robbery.

In the end, I am glad the robber was caught. I am saddened the guy lost his job. But I am concerned his actions, while possibly deterring the least violent bank robbers, may have emboldened the violence-prone, or created the catalyst that will cause a future bank robber to use violence as the primary method of crowd control, initially, rather than as a plan B.

~Icarus
Link Posted: 8/5/2009 2:18:02 PM EDT
[#20]
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