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Posted: 12/29/2006 2:40:37 PM EDT

Look what just got posted on the CMP Web site:

29 December, 2006. The Army has transferred to the CMP a significant quantity of M1 Carbines. We are currently processing these carbines through our Inspection & Repair operations and expect to have some ready for sale by 1 March, 2007, but it may be sooner. More information will be posted on this web page as it becomes available.

At this time no decisions have been made as to grading, pricing, or limits. We are not accepting orders or establishing waiting lists at this time!!

BTW, have you seen all the .22 target rifles they've posted. I probably should have waited a few days to mention this so my order could arrive at CMP but, damn, if you like .22's there are some good deals . . .

Posted: 12/29/2006 2:44:23 PM EDT

[#1]

Buy all you can and then buy some more!

Posted: 12/29/2006 2:50:18 PM EDT

[#2]

[HomerSimpsonvoice]HMMMM Carbines[HomerSimpsonvoice/]

Posted: 12/29/2006 2:51:33 PM EDT

[#3]

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:00:00 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:

+1

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:03:38 PM EDT

[#5]

On the CMP forums the word is that quantities on the M1 carbines are in the "five digit range" (i.e. 10,000 or more) and that supply is expected to last a couple of years.

Of course, if they price them like they're pricing the shot-out 1903's they just offered then maybe the carbines won't be such a bargain.

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:04:04 PM EDT

[#6]

Might have to get one of those when they come out.

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:07:32 PM EDT

[#7]

Sweet , they are cute little units .

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:07:33 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Might have to get one of those when they come out.

Or two

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:16:17 PM EDT

[#9]

Am I the only one who just did the happy dance.

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:27:20 PM EDT

[#10]

That is some good news.

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:30:50 PM EDT

[#11]

My GCA membership expired - looks like I will be renewing it.

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:38:07 PM EDT

[#12]

Insert Carnac: I see a Rockola in your [my] future

Posted: 12/29/2006 3:39:06 PM EDT

[#13]

cool. I think Ill get one for my dad who doesnt have one. Maybe another for me

Posted: 12/29/2006 4:57:00 PM EDT

[#14]

The CMP won't be selling them at a bargain price.

they say they research auctions etc to set a price so expect the cheapest CMP Inland to be in the $ 700-800 range and WRA's $ 900 +.

The CMP isn't stupid, the have figured out they can ask as whatever they want and they will still have a line of idiots with $ willing to buy. They had no problem selling garbage 03/A3's for $ 500 and 1917's with sewer bores for $ 400.

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:01:52 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
The CMP won't be selling them at a bargain price.

they say they research auctions etc to set a price so expect the cheapest CMP Inland to be in the $ 700-800 range and WRA's $ 900 +.

The CMP isn't stupid, the have figured out they can ask as whatever they want and they will still have a line of idiots with $ willing to buy. They had no problem selling garbage 03/A3's for $ 500 and 1917's with sewer bores for $ 400.

You are probably right. I would maybe guess a little bit less but not much. Orest ain't no dummy, I'm sure he remembers the feeding frenzy when they sold off the last of the junior club carbines. Since I already have a nice Inland I doubt I'll be to interested.

But I will stay tuned.

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:07:40 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
The CMP won't be selling them at a bargain price.

they say they research auctions etc to set a price so expect the cheapest CMP Inland to be in the $ 700-800 range and WRA's $ 900 +.

The CMP isn't stupid, the have figured out they can ask as whatever they want and they will still have a line of idiots with $ willing to buy. They had no problem selling garbage 03/A3's for $ 500 and 1917's with sewer bores for $ 400.

And yet, they continue to sell Field Grade M1 Garands for $425 when guns in the same condition bring $700-$900 at gun shows. I'm guessing you'll be able to get into a common manufacturer carbine in Field Grade for $500 or less.

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:09:40 PM EDT

[#17]

Wonder if this will drive up the prices of registered M2 parts?

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:17:18 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The CMP won't be selling them at a bargain price.

they say they research auctions etc to set a price so expect the cheapest CMP Inland to be in the $ 700-800 range and WRA's $ 900 +.

The CMP isn't stupid, the have figured out they can ask as whatever they want and they will still have a line of idiots with $ willing to buy. They had no problem selling garbage 03/A3's for $ 500 and 1917's with sewer bores for $ 400.

And yet, they continue to sell Field Grade M1 Garands for $425 when guns in the same condition bring $700-$900 at gun shows. I'm guessing you'll be able to get into a common manufacturer carbine in Field Grade for $500 or less.

This is because of the sheer volume of Garands they need to sell in that grade; you could be sure if they only had a few they would certainly be more like $700 to $900.

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:19:17 PM EDT

[#19]

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:22:11 PM EDT

[#20]

Mmmmmm... this is what is gonna make me buy an M1 Carbine

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:50:14 PM EDT

[#21]

Orest says they will be offered by manufacturer. I need a Winchester and a Postal Meter to round out my collection.

Noteworthy is his comment of "will be available March 2007 or sooner. I hope it's sooner.

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:52:22 PM EDT

[#22]

As funds permit, I was going to get another M1..but I may have to snag a carbine..

Posted: 12/29/2006 5:58:43 PM EDT

[#23]

hells yeah

Posted: 12/29/2006 6:20:16 PM EDT

[#24]

I'm not so concerned about manufacturer, i just want a carbine. Hopefully they have them at the south store before I move at the end of Feb so I can go and hand pick one

Posted: 12/29/2006 6:21:10 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
My GCA membership expired - looks like I will be renewing it.

Same here.

Posted: 12/29/2006 7:27:37 PM EDT

[#26]

Can you buy CMP rifles with a C&R license?

Posted: 12/29/2006 7:31:54 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Can you buy CMP rifles with a C&R license?

you can use the C&R to cover the requirement to be involved in "firearms activity" but you still need to be a member of a CMP affiliated organization.

Also, you do NOT need a C&R or other FFL to receive a CMP rifle, they can ship it right to your door regardless

Posted: 12/29/2006 7:53:30 PM EDT

[#28]

Not to be the party pooper, but lets hope they grade out well. It saddens me to think those poor '03s have bad bores with little to no rifling...

Posted: 12/29/2006 11:38:12 PM EDT

[#29]

2007 is looking to be a good year

Posted: 12/29/2006 11:46:14 PM EDT

[#30]

Now all I need is my Taylor "Planet of the Apes" stock and I'm ready for the End.

This is very cool news.

Posted: 12/30/2006 12:22:11 AM EDT

[#31]

The last one I got was an Inland in beautiful condition. It came from my grandfather, I have not shot it much because it is in such nice shape, but I just have to have one that is mine for blasting.

Posted: 12/30/2006 5:38:13 AM EDT

[#32]

Coupla posts up on this page, they're talking about the carbines, Supposedly they are in good shape, but the bores are dark with no rifling left....If this is the case I think I'll pass....I can't see paying $5-700 for a wall hanger.... If I can't shoot it I'm not interested.

Posted: 12/30/2006 6:15:40 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
Coupla posts up on this page, they're talking about the carbines, Supposedly they are in good shape, but the bores are dark with no rifling left....If this is the case I think I'll pass....I can't see paying $5-700 for a wall hanger.... If I can't shoot it I'm not interested.

I believe the dark bore/no rifling comment is in reference to the 1903/1903a3 rifles that were just posted on the CMP site. Those are old drill rifles that have seen a lifetime of shooting blanks. There has been no credible description of the condition of the M1 carbines yet. According to the CMP site they haven't been inspected yet.

Really, I think the two circumstances are completely different and you can't draw any conclusions by comparing the two rifle offerings. The 1903 offering is kind of a special deal. It really is the bottom of the barrel/last chance kind of thing. They've been telling us for months these are going to be rough but it's all they have. Take it or leave it. The M1 carbines, on the other hand, are more like the Greek or Danish Garand returns. Apparently, they got a HUGE shipment of these rifles returned from a foreign country. There's been rumors about such a shipment for months.

Talk over on the Jouster board is that there are like 30,000 of these things and they came from Italy. Don't know if that's true or not, but if it is, that would suggest that the inventory would run the gamut from total dregs all the way up to practically pristine. It's also likely that all or nearly all manufacturers would be represented.

Posted: 12/30/2006 8:52:41 AM EDT

[#34]

I just sold my M1 Carbine last month, and have no regrets whatsoever.

Nice, light, little popgun, but not worth what I got for it. Money's better spent on something else.

Posted: 12/30/2006 4:58:35 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Coupla posts up on this page, they're talking about the carbines, Supposedly they are in good shape, but the bores are dark with no rifling left....If this is the case I think I'll pass....I can't see paying $5-700 for a wall hanger.... If I can't shoot it I'm not interested.

I believe the dark bore/no rifling comment is in reference to the 1903/1903a3 rifles that were just posted on the CMP site. Those are old drill rifles that have seen a lifetime of shooting blanks. There has been no credible description of the condition of the M1 carbines yet. According to the CMP site they haven't been inspected yet.

Really, I think the two circumstances are completely different and you can't draw any conclusions by comparing the two rifle offerings. The 1903 offering is kind of a special deal. It really is the bottom of the barrel/last chance kind of thing. They've been telling us for months these are going to be rough but it's all they have. Take it or leave it. The M1 carbines, on the other hand, are more like the Greek or Danish Garand returns. Apparently, they got a HUGE shipment of these rifles returned from a foreign country. There's been rumors about such a shipment for months.

Talk over on the Jouster board is that there are like 30,000 of these things and they came from Italy. Don't know if that's true or not, but if it is, that would suggest that the inventory would run the gamut from total dregs all the way up to practically pristine. It's also likely that all or nearly all manufacturers would be represented.

I'm not totally writing them off yet..I live about 3hrs from the north store, and provided I have the money and they aren't priced out of sight, I will go look them over. And possibly buy one.As far as the '03's go I know, I saw racks of them about 2years ago at the north store. I went through 3 racks of '03's before I found one with a good bore the rest I had gaged with the store's MW gage swallowed the gage in a few cases it's a good thing there's a string tied on to the gage, they were that bad... I got lucky and found a Rem'03 that has a near new barrel, orginial to the rifle, I could'nt get that one to the counter fast enough.

Posted: 12/31/2006 7:18:25 AM EDT

[#36]

Given that carbine ammo (US at least) has always been non-corrosive and less pressure that 30/06 I would imagine/hope bores would be pretty clean and rifling still sharp.

Posted: 12/31/2006 8:44:03 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My GCA membership expired - looks like I will be renewing it.

Same here.

Why dont you guys save $15.00 and join the "GAT Pack" through The_Beer_Slayer It is a CMP Affilliated Club and Dues is $10.00

Send him a IM the link is hot

Posted: 12/31/2006 9:00:18 AM EDT

[#38]

I doubt my Rock-Ola is going to be losing much value any time soon.

Posted: 12/31/2006 9:09:46 AM EDT

[#39]

Can someone point me in the right direction for becoming eligible for a CMP purchase?

Bob

Posted: 12/31/2006 9:24:58 AM EDT

[#40]

Ky Bob,

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

Posted: 12/31/2006 11:01:00 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
Ky Bob,

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

Thank you. It looks like I am good to go. I have been putting off buying an M1 Carbine for years now and this is just what I needed to get off my butt and do it.

Bob

Posted: 12/31/2006 1:26:55 PM EDT

[#42]

now when do we get the tommy gunzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted: 1/1/2007 3:45:24 PM EDT

[#43]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have this in another posting but is seems appropriate here.

I have seen and bought several nice USGI (non import) carbines at gun shows this year. Once you look away from the dealers tables and look what is walking the show you'll find some buys from $450-$600. That being said if the CMP prices these at the $500-600 level they will sell. Of course they will be graded and sorted according to manufacturer and priced accordingly. I would not be surprized to see them priced even higher.
Many people on the gun boards bitch about people buying and selling CMP rifles. They believe that if the CMP raises the price and puts limits on purchases this will stop the practice. Really all it does is that the sellers just ask higher prices. They have deep pockets and can wait a year or more to make a profit. In fact the longer they wait the higher the price. Now the CMP seems to be selling at or near retail level. I'm sure that many guys can't come up with the dough as easily as a few years ago. The carbines they sold before were $350 and I believe a random choice. Many were arsenal refinished and in the wrap so they are very valuable now. I don't think the CMP will make that mistake again. At the worse they will be put on auction.
It will be interesting to see what happens. But I'm not sure that I'll buy many.

Posted: 1/1/2007 3:53:45 PM EDT

[#44]

I have a Winchester M1 Carbine I'm trying to sell, all Winchester parts except the stock which is Dean's Extra Fancy Grade and it has not sold in nearly a week on Jouster. I'm asking $1,200, but might have to drop the price down to around $1,050 to $1,100. Dean has been getting about $1,400 for these.

Posted: 1/1/2007 4:35:10 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
I have a Winchester M1 Carbine I'm trying to sell, all Winchester parts except the stock which is Dean's Extra Fancy Grade and it has not sold in nearly a week on Jouster. I'm asking $1,200, but might have to drop the price down to around $1,050 to $1,100. Dean has been getting about $1,400 for these.

I think I will wait a few months.

Posted: 1/2/2007 6:04:06 AM EDT

[#46]

Is there even a remote chance of some surplused .30M1 ammo being made available with these carbines?

(Pardon my ignorance if this is a "stupid question" -- I've never visited/bought from the CMP before, but I know several local folks who recently picked up cases of .30-06 there.)

Posted: 1/2/2007 7:36:30 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
Is there even a remote chance of some surplused .30M1 ammo being made available with these carbines?

(Pardon my ignorance if this is a "stupid question" -- I've never visited/bought from the CMP before, but I know several local folks who recently picked up cases of .30-06 there.)

There is always a chance. But the word over on the CMP Web site is there is none in the forecast.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:30:10 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Is there even a remote chance of some surplused .30M1 ammo being made available with these carbines?

(Pardon my ignorance if this is a "stupid question" -- I've never visited/bought from the CMP before, but I know several local folks who recently picked up cases of .30-06 there.)

There is always a chance. But the word over on the CMP Web site is there is none in the forecast.

up until very recently there weren't any carbines in the forecast either. not saying ammo is on the way, i'm just saying you never know what CMP will scrounge up

Posted: 1/2/2007 3:26:11 PM EDT

[#49]

Other than "collectablility" are there any quality differences between the USGI manufacturers of M1 carbines?

I just want a reliable USGI carbine that will function when I pull the trigger and am not concerned about which specific USGI supplier made it. Are these all about the same qualitywise?

Thanks,
Gary

Posted: 1/3/2007 5:49:44 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:
Are these all about the same qualitywise?

Thanks,
Gary

They all had to meet the same standards before the Ord. Dept. would accept them.

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