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Posted: 1/18/2002 12:31:06 AM EDT
OK  I know this is going to be a stupid question to most of you but why cant I insert a loaded mag into a bushmaster AR15 with the bolt closed.  I wanted to keep it with a mag loaded but without one in the chamber but I found that this was imposible.  If I cannot keep it this way how should I keep it?  Round in safty on, or magizine out?  tHanks for any help you can give.

Talon_G32
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 12:39:56 AM EDT
[#1]
What kinda magazine is it?  If its a Thermold, you'll probably need to open the bolt, insert the (unloaded) mag, and close the bolt.  Then work it (the bolt) back and forth a few times to shave off the extra plastic off the feed lips.  If its a USGI mag, maybe the feed lips are bent (too far up?)  If its an after-market steel mag, run over it with your car and buy USGI or Thermold.

-Gloftoe
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 12:51:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Just give it a good smack.  All fully loaded 30 rounders will "resist" being fully inserted due to spring tension & 30 rounds against the bottom of the bolt carrier.  I actually notice it more w/ USGIs than I do Thermolds, but that's just me.  If you are using Thermolds, be sure to follow Gloftoe's advice & break them in.
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 3:11:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Also make sure you haven’t overloaded the magazine.  The rounds have to be able to depress slightly when you seat the mag with the bolt forward.
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 3:33:16 AM EDT
[#4]
I agree with 199. It's a good idea to load maybe 28 rounds in a 30 round mag for the reason of it not seating and just that one or two rounds less helps keep your spring feeding more reliably.
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 10:41:52 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the tips. I should have mentioned,  it is the original 10 rnd. Mag that came from bushmaster.  I have heard that bushmaster uses 30 rounders cut down for there 10 round mags. This seems likely because it has a bend like a USGI 30, where as other 10 rounds mags that I have seen are straight.  Given this info do you still think it is just the mag being to full?  Should I load 9 instead of 10?  This is a SHTF backup incase the Glock is not enough.  A few USGI 30's will be coming soon.  But until then I would like to have something in it.

Talon_G32
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 11:11:44 AM EDT
[#6]
All the thermolds I have function fine in my Bushy.  The stock 10 rounder from Bushy will have a stiff spring.  I kept mine loaded for a month or 2 emptying it when I went to the range but filling it right away and keeping it loaded at home.  It's fine now.
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 11:23:09 AM EDT
[#7]
My bushy does the exact same thing.  You just have to give the mag a sharp smack to seat it.  With the bolt open, it clicks right in.
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 3:49:38 PM EDT
[#8]
you're gong to use a pos bm mag for shtf?  i have one and i've had a couple ftf problems with it.  i'd get a 20rd mag instead-not USA brand of course..if shtf i'd want the most reliable thing i could have.  
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 4:20:37 PM EDT
[#9]
LOL he said he's working on a few more USGI.  He probably dropped a bundle on the AR and is recouping...although even though I spent alot on mine I couldn't help walking out with a thermold after I paid for the gun.
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