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Posted: 6/1/2005 6:44:28 PM EDT
[#1]
No more toys from ORF ?
 WTF? Say it aint so!
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Posted: 6/1/2005 6:55:04 PM EDT
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Do you intend to finish my Micro kit that I sent you? Let me know what I need to do asap. Jim |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 7:06:49 PM EDT
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Whoa....before the deluge starts, I think what Troy is saying, is that he is retiring the store not the business. As in the Jefferson's movin' on up...to da east side...to a de-luxe apartment...
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Posted: 6/1/2005 7:11:10 PM EDT
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Sad to see ORF close. I have bought several items from ORF and have been pleased with both the items and service.
If any of you check out the other boards there is strange stuff going on..... Apparently there are serious problems at FAC (as mention over on the FALfiles). Bob (ORF/ArkonArmory) mentioned the FAC situation in the form of a coded message and of course the crap hit the fan. I know it seems far fetched, but I wonder if there could be a connection between Todd closing up shop and the FAC issue????? Hopefully Todd will/can share why he decided to move on when it seemed there was good things to come from ORF. |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 7:15:03 PM EDT
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Jeep,
Gdamn man, I am Todd, Troy is in TN! I am in Troy! Wow that sounded bad, but you get it. Off subject if Troy is reading, got the care package, made for a hel-a-va (thats TN language) of a Tues morning, lol! I have about 25 more customer jobs and then I am done. I figure about 3-4 weeks to wrap them up. Maybe a bit more but I will finished what I agreeded to do. Todd@ORF |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 7:17:18 PM EDT
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Where's the new store going to be located? (State of Ohio?)
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Posted: 6/1/2005 7:17:49 PM EDT
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....too many Todd's and Troys around these parts!
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Posted: 6/1/2005 7:26:23 PM EDT
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tag. just curious about HK91/94, FNC projects status
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Posted: 6/1/2005 8:07:55 PM EDT
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RW66,
Yes I lost alot of money with FAC, can verify that FACt. I guess I know what FACts are now. I'm sorry I cannot say MUCH, would LOVE to to save some folks of vested interests. I know my FACts now so will move on, I WILL finish my obligations at whatever expense to me like a gentleman would. Todd@ORF |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 8:44:29 PM EDT
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Todd, so are you getting out the business totally or just moving to better digs?
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Posted: 6/1/2005 8:44:35 PM EDT
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So is ORF still going to be "alive" just in a different location or is ORF done for ?
We need ORF, you cannot leave the industry ! Work out of your house or garage or something. Will send money and tear soaked kleenex  You have to stay alive, don't you die on us damnit !!!! Vent your frustrations and plans.... we are all ears. -bones |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 8:45:31 PM EDT
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Are you going to stop building all together ???
 Will we still be able to get Galil receivers ??? 
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Posted: 6/1/2005 8:58:12 PM EDT
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Guys,
I took the night off for this and try and catch up on the hundred some emails I have. Taking a break to clear my head coming over here. Theres a batch of Galil recs we just finished they will be up for sale shortly. Micros and regular recs, micros not many, theres some blemished ones too at discount rate. Theres also the LAST batch of M76 recs coming done in about 2 weeks, only 30 pcs avail. Again all projects promised WILL be completed guys, hell or high water I NEVER give up. Todd@ORF |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:01:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:04:54 PM EDT
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I think he's done with the business and I really don't blame him for wanting out. I just hope he gets my Micro kit done before he dissappears.
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:10:34 PM EDT
[#16]
wow, I thought you guys were doing pretty well. sad to see another company go down
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:12:11 PM EDT
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what happened with FAC?
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:22:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Guys, I don't resume to know the details, but I will say, that as a small business in this industry, things are stacked against you from day one.
NO profit margins to speak of, and lots of headaches. Usually, it's love of the sport that keeps you doing it. Wish you the best of luck Todd. |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:26:58 PM EDT
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Well, good luck with any of your future ventures, it was nice having having you guys here. I cant say enough good things about ORF, ORF will defintely be missed.
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:30:20 PM EDT
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to say i am speachless would be a understatement
 good luck todd 
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:33:59 PM EDT
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Todd,
I'm really sorry to hear about the change of plans. I hope things all work out for the best for you guys. I just ordered what was, from what I was told, your last in-stock 5.45 X 39 Krinkov rifle. Its up there some place in a box with my name on it. Tina said it was undergoing some last minute test firing relating to its fake can. I don't know if any of that rings a bell but I'm very much looking forward to getting that firearm. Good luck in whatever venture you decide to do next. Kevin |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:36:25 PM EDT
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Guys and Gals, (actually I got a correction this eve and shall say gals too)
I cannot say much on FAC. FAC did me way wrong. $150k of inventory extended to them on 120 days. 1 year 4 months nothing. FAC files that inv was "paid" for to there bank financing them, using it as collateral. We collect whats left, not much! FAC tells bank. Bank files suit on ORF for 2x, nice, thanks FAC, Harlan, Tim, Rod, Linda, Linda and all else gathered together in the FAC Corp. Were at a fight and I will not stand for a co that takes this kind of stance, makes me sick. Any co that stands behind a co (yeah I am a co now but I do feel for people)and files as such is a $#%^&*#* %^&$@^$&$*$%%!!!!!. Todd@ORF |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 9:47:05 PM EDT
[#23]
Damn
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Posted: 6/1/2005 10:49:21 PM EDT
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Todd,
I'm in the group buy patiently waiting for one of your sear ready FNC rifles. What will happen to this project? Should I start looking for a real pre 89 import FNC for my sear? Regardless of the outcome best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do. -rugby |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 10:55:36 PM EDT
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So ORF is done completely now?
I guess no belt-fed upper anymore (that was you, wasn't it?)Sad day... Sad day...
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Posted: 6/1/2005 11:16:57 PM EDT
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Duh-OH!!!
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Posted: 6/1/2005 11:24:10 PM EDT
[#27]
Damn!
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Posted: 6/1/2005 11:25:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2005 11:52:04 PM EDT
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What/how will this affect those of us who ordered Tantal kits via money order already? Will Akron Armory take over?
Either way around this sucks! Such a great vendor! moorecd3 |
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Posted: 6/1/2005 11:56:19 PM EDT
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Damn, wish I had gotten that micro. So very sorry to hear that. Best of luck Todd. Should have struck while the iron was hot.
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Posted: 6/1/2005 11:57:15 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear about all this crap Todd. I never dealt with you personally, but we all know you're a great guy.....you will be missed.
I hope you get all this shit sorted out, and hang the suckers who screwed you over out to dry. -Storm |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 2:17:55 AM EDT
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Wow...this is bad news. Sorry to hear you're leaving Todd..I wish you the best.
take care, Tec |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 2:22:47 AM EDT
[#33]
Yep, the more I think about it the more it sucks. The whole crew out there is pretty outstanding. Todd was always great to deal with as well as meet in person. They did a bunch of custom work for me and I was never dissapointed. My best to you guys and good luck. -Eric
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Posted: 6/2/2005 3:10:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2005 5:11:58 AM EDT
[#35]
Man, I hate to see the good people at ORF screwed over.....Thanks for ALL your good service.
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Posted: 6/2/2005 5:35:51 AM EDT
[#36]
damn
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Posted: 6/2/2005 5:45:00 AM EDT
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Look at this:
www.hk-54.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=388 Calling potential customers jerks and telling them openly that you're going to gouge them cannot be a good thing for the rest of us. |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 5:50:24 AM EDT
[#38]
Sorry to hear that. Good luck. |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 5:52:48 AM EDT
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Is that from Toad? |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 5:57:09 AM EDT
[#40]
Yep.
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:11:47 AM EDT
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He can count me out of that designation. I don't need (want) an MP5 clone (or anything else) badly enough to stoop so low as to buy a SW/Bobcat/whatever. Fuck Todd Bailey. TG - Please share your plans for the future with as as soon as you can. |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:12:25 AM EDT
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It's truley a sad day in American gun nut history.
I wish I had the funds to take over the buisness, running a company like ORF would be a dream come true for me.. I may have to talk to the finace minister.. |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:20:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:22:05 AM EDT
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LADIES and GENTLEMEN,...PLEASE!.....STOP...STOP....STOP..!
WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE,....EXCEPT...TO OUR NEW 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING! The operation at ORF is as FINE as FROG HAIR! This has gotten a bit "off track" and I will be talking to Mr. Grove as soon as he "wakes up". BobWilliams@ORF PS,..Too much "Keyboard Commando" work going on after Jay Leno signs off! |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:27:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:31:16 AM EDT
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That's what I was hoping for, but the word "Retiring" in the thread title had me just a wee bit nervous. 
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:36:22 AM EDT
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Tod, Thanks for getting my 1919a4 repaired and back a couple weeks ago before TSHF. Good luck on your future endevers. By the way, what happens to inventory?
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:37:00 AM EDT
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Me too. I have never purchased anything from Toad and I probably never will. I have warned several friends about purchasing his products as well. I really would like to get a MP-5 (or clone) but it won't be from him or anyone else with shitty customer service. |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:37:31 AM EDT
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Group Buy? |
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Posted: 6/2/2005 6:41:55 AM EDT
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LADIES and GENTLEMEN,...PLEASE!.....STOP...STOP....STOP..!
WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE,....EXCEPT...TO OUR NEW 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING! We are as FINE as FROG HAIR! This has gotten a bit "off track" and I will be talking to Mr. Grove as soon as he "wakes up". BobWilliams@ORF PS,..Too much "Keyboard Commando" work going on after Jay Leno signs off! |
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