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Posted: 8/13/2008 9:46:32 PM EDT
We got the samples in today and here are the pics as promised. We tried to stick as closely as posible to the original Beryl design but we also wanted to make it user friendly with NO gunsmithing required.
The mount is connected to the rear site base with 2 hardned and pointed screws which will make a small indentation into the metal and act as a pivot point. The screws then have "set screws" that lock them into postion. We were originally considering using a "spot" drill bit to create a deeper indentation for the points to sit in but now that we have it in hand we are not sure that it will be needed. Testing will let us know. The quick disconnect on the back does not require any alterations to the rear trunion. It is a separate piece that sits in the trunion and is held down with the rear stock screw. That piece has the "male" locking tab for the quick disconnect to mount to. I will get more detailed pics and post them. As for price, we are working on that and I hope to have something very soon. Scott   
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Posted: 8/14/2008 2:37:05 AM EDT
[#1]
That kicks ass. Thanks for stepping up and doing this. I have a Romy and an EOTech waiting for this.
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Posted: 8/14/2008 4:12:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Looks great!
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Posted: 8/14/2008 7:18:17 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks guys, we have worked hard to get this right. We are right were we need to be. There are a couple of "tweaks" that we need to do. The rear trunion on the Saiga is not as deep as the Romanian guns so we have to fine a way around that and also we need to find out how many different variations there are in the rear trunions from country to country.
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Posted: 8/14/2008 7:18:24 AM EDT
[#4]
Sweet, cant wait to order one
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Posted: 8/14/2008 11:02:08 AM EDT
[#5]
is the poduction model going to be carbon steel or aluminum?
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Posted: 8/14/2008 12:31:26 PM EDT
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scott,
the pictures make the mounting point at the rear look like it's higher than the front? is there actually an angle to it? or is it just an optical illusion caused by the photograph? i know some stocks do that too, that's why i ask. |
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Posted: 8/14/2008 5:08:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Can you still use the irons with a scope mounted or do the cross bolts block them?
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Posted: 8/15/2008 12:13:00 AM EDT
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If you are refering to the second pic, that is an illusion caused by the angle of the pic. The space between the 2 pieces is actually where the quick detach cam locks and unlocks. However, different stocks will cause the rail to sit differently on the gun. That is one of the issues we are looking at right now. Unforutunately, I'm not sure how to fix it yet. We have found that there is variation in the rear trunions from one country to another as well at the difference between the Saiga's and standard AK's. We will get there with a little more work.
As for using the iron sites...YES, that was the goal all along. Scott |
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Posted: 8/15/2008 6:25:52 AM EDT
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so it's not currently working on saigas?
scott, wanted to confirm you have the original in stock? $10 shipping? ack. that's harsh. |
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Posted: 8/15/2008 6:05:11 PM EDT
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I does work on the Saiga but it needs some fitting at the rear trunion. We are trying to make it where it fits a wide varitey with minimal fitting.
We do have the origninal style in stock, As far as shipping goes, we are tied into UPS and we charge actual shipping plus $1 to cover boxes and packing material. Here is what the UPS site says shipping would be to Mobil AL if we shipped it out on Monday the 18th. Scott UPS Ground By End of Day, Wednesday August 20, 2008 9.33 USD* Days In Transit: 2 Billable Weight: 1.0 lbs. |
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Posted: 8/16/2008 12:32:14 PM EDT
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Which models/applications do you intend to release first, or will you wait until all applications are ready before releasing any of them?
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Posted: 8/16/2008 9:47:47 PM EDT
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Scott,
Have a guesstimate on price? Maybe an approximation? Thanks |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:51:08 AM EDT
[#13]
old school tag 'cause I want one too
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Posted: 9/1/2008 5:53:39 PM EDT
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We are working on it.....we are trying everything we can to keep the cost down. We have a couple more options in works and as soon as we have something I'll let you know. Scott |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:00:54 PM EDT
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OST
Am waiting for a couple |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:50:03 AM EDT
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can i get the v1 prototype? |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 6:05:07 PM EDT
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All V1's are in the hands of guys doing reviews for us.
sorry Scott |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 7:53:55 PM EDT
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I'm willing to wait for a good thing, especially given Scotts/DPHArms reputation. Waiting patently. 
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Posted: 10/27/2008 11:21:05 PM EDT
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I think it would better if you put a mil spec picatinney rail on it.
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Posted: 10/28/2008 3:02:37 AM EDT
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I've been putting my entire optics setup on hold for this rail! Glad to finally see some proof of concept photos; it's like a nice reward for my patience
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One question though; what is up with the front mounting point? On the previous version, the rail replaced the rear sight leaf; this version appears to be hinged on a hole my AK (WASR 10/63) doesn't have. |
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Posted: 10/29/2008 12:05:12 PM EDT
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The original style does replace the rear site leaf. They are in stock and ready to ship.
CLICK HERE FOR THE ORIGINAL SYLE The new one mounts to the rear site block with 2 hardened set screws that create the hinge point. Scott |
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Posted: 10/29/2008 2:58:12 PM EDT
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I am just a little concerned that the front screws into the site block won't hold well without a small indent drilled into the block. I am thinking that with the general knocks a gun takes in the field it might loose 0. All in all it looks to be the answer to the top rail issue. Hats off to you for taking it on! How does the cam in the rear work? Think it will be ready for Christmas
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Posted: 10/31/2008 7:58:58 AM EDT
[#23]
Nothing a punch, a drill press, and a steady hand couldn't fix.
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Posted: 10/31/2008 10:15:17 AM EDT
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All I can say is I now KNOW exactly what I want Santa to bring me and my Tantals this Christmas!!
BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 10/31/2008 11:37:20 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I am just a little concerned that the front screws into the site block won't hold well without a small indent drilled into the block. I am thinking that with the general knocks a gun takes in the field it might loose 0. All in all it looks to be the answer to the top rail issue. Hats off to you for taking it on! How does the cam in the rear work? Think it will be ready for Christmas +1 I have to think it would be easy to lose zero. Those set screws seem like they would eventually creep slightly when the user repeatedly opens and closes the rifle for cleaning. I do agree with omegis13 though. Anyone handy with tools should be able to make a more solid mount point themselves. Then again, it might be nice to see it come with both options accounted for (like coming with the proper drill bit and instructions). Personally, I'd rather do a little smithing and have something that will last after many, many "open/close" cycles. Just my opinion. Either way, this looks like a nice setup. 
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Posted: 10/31/2008 8:53:41 PM EDT
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I'd even be ok with it/like it better if it replaced the rear sight leaf like the old mount. So mate the old front with the new rear mounting and I'd be down.
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Posted: 11/1/2008 6:24:17 AM EDT
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Will that work with a Krebs?
Do you have any close up photos that show how it attaches to the rear trunnion? |
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Posted: 11/1/2008 7:12:31 AM EDT
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if your talking about a kreb's rifle. it should kreb's use a saiga as a platform.
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