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Posted: 5/14/2005 8:22:47 AM EDT
I read through the New and updated mag pic thread but I would still like to know how to identify the country of origin by the markings (or lack of) on the steel 30 rounders. Is there a chart some where that explains what the markings are?
I recently purchased some steel Bulgarian 30 rounders and they are exceptional in finish and quality to my Romanian 30 rounders but they do now have a signal mark on them. By comparision my Romain mags have 3 to 4 letters stamped on them and my 20 round Hugarian mag has a M (or W) in a circle on the back spine of the mag. So, how are we to determine what the markings mean and how each country/manufacture marks their mags? |
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Dayum!!!
Nice post, I can't really tell the difference in mags (other than feedlip/ upper mag photo) and the sheen or paint quality. I've never had an issue with AK 30rndrs (unlike the beloved AR line), so I never even thought about them all that much. Is one better than the other, or simply subjective? The last time I bought any of these was about 3 years ago, and they all appear to be Hungarian. I picked them up at a show (last day believe it or not) 10 for $50 from this Asian guy. I was beyond psyched this thread reminds me that I need a Chinese drum..... |
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cool thanks! that just helped me identify a mag (polish ) that i found in the desert looked like it had been there for a while, we had some serious rain recent and prob helped uncover to where i just saw a mag shaped outline in the dirt. little cleaning.. ok alot of cleaning and paint and it almost looks brand new
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Thanks, great post.
I just found that I have 5 Russian 30 rouders. |
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With the traffic through the magazine forum, you could bump it once every two months and it would stay at the top forever. |
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holy hell if the spot welds on the lips and mag catch lips mean russian I got a russian 40rder!
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I have only seen those type of spot welds on Russian made mags. Of course there could be more out there I have not seen. |
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Me too!! |
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The thirty rounder's hold 30 rnds..
Now the forty rounder's hold 40 rnds that's how you can identify em..Duh I just had to do that!! |
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Just pick them up out of sand bang the sand out on your boot then rock and roll
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It probablt made sense to him when he wrote it. |
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my Hugarian mag has a M (or W) in a circle plus a 02 on the back spine of the mag and are blue finnish. now. I also have a mag with a k in a circle and is painted black.
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Added punctuation for him.
He's referring to the guy who said he found one in the sand. BTT for this excellent thread.
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The original mag photos are larger and show some more detail. I used smaller photos when I put them on gunsnet a couple of years ago to make downloads quicker.
If anyone wants copies of the originals, please send me an IM and I'll email them to you. |
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Great pictures, Mike. I've used your recognition guide over at Gunsnet many times. Thank you. Could someone with a confirmed Romanian 30-rounder take similar pictures of the same details, please? |
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Well, it looks like I have a pile of steel Russian 30's and a Russian 40 based on these pics. I thought the Russian mags were supposed to be difficult to locate? I can't even remeber when or where I get most of these mags.
TD |
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Given current information......that is Russian |
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Thanks for that! I have some other chicom but they are the poly ones so I was not sure.
Yep you got the FSE follower also I have the original and the base plate I had to pull them for compliance issues. |
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so how do you tell the difference between a Romanian and a Polish 30?
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I picked up an old chinese stamped sideplates AK mag for 7 bucks last gun show, it's beat up a bit but still 100% completely functional.
What are those mags worth? That is the first I have ever seen in person. I figured that it might be rare so I picked it up. |
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Its worth maybe $10. |
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Richard-ar15, What make is the magazine on the right? I have a couple that look exactly like that. |
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Kami211,
OK, I didn't know as they have no marking anyhere on them. They seem to be pretty well made compared to the ones I have for my Norico .223 AK. Thanks, Mic |
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If we could get together some hard info about proof marks, I'd tack this thread.
Based on what I am looking at, I think I just scored a Russian 40rd mag in VG+ condition for $8. On the back rib, it has a '22' in a diamond and what looks to be the Molot star in a shield. |
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Both are ChiCom, as kami said. I took the picture to illustrate the differences in construction. AK mag bodies consist of two halves spotwelded together. The Chinese used two different techniques. The back side on the left mag has the halves meeting in a "spine". On the right. one side is folded over the other. |
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From what I know Russian mags look a lot like Romanians... |
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The Molot star doesn't lie. You got a great buy. |
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So what are they type I have worth now a days? They appear to be new and in great shape. |
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if they're used but like new i'd pay $10 max for them. a couple dollars more if they're new still in the grease.
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Yep I have seen the Chinese European knock offs before, Chinese will make a copy of anything, if you'll buy it!
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New to me, also. Nice find. Does it have any discernable stamps on it? |
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Yep, added pics to original post, has a triangle with 66 in it by the rib on back, weird. never seen any other chinese mag like this |
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http://762x39.net/AKmakers.htm |
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Ok, experts. Here's one for ya. I've done some research, but can't find a good answer to this one. I've got a ribbed AK magazine that has a completely flat floorplate on it. Stamped on the floorplate is a C inside of a circle. The follower also has this stamped on it. Where's it from, and why is the floorplate flat? Any ideas?
-GreatWarAZ |
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Unless I'm missing something, that isn't a circle around the C for the East German markings...they're little lines/dots/dashes, unless the picture is wrong or something. The marking on my magazine is a solid circle around a C. And, it also doesn't account for why the floorplate is entirely flat, unlike every other one I own.
-GreatWarAZ |
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You've got the standard mag that Century International arms ships with their AK's. It's a foreign (alway Romanian, as far as I know) body and spring with Century's own U.S.-made floorplate and follower added to make 2 compliance parts for the purposes of 922r. "C" is Century's mark. The floorplates are flat (similar to "slabsided" mags) because it's cheaper to stamp them out that way instead of with the proper contours. They also sell these separate from the rifles, so you'll see them for sale at gunshows. |
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